Dana White: Frankie Edgar 'broke' BJ Penn at UFC 118 (Video)
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Why? Because of DW's diarrhea of the mouth? I don't think so...
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Well
Penn and him are having some “problems” again and the Kenny chokes stuff isn’t exactly flattering no matter how many times Dana says says “I’m not bad mouthing him” after that.
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Really? What's the problem between DW and BJ?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Helwani asked Dana
But he said he didnt want to get into it
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Must be the book, right? DW can talk alot of shit but if someone does the same then he gets butt hurt. Hysterical.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Indeed. Although you would be surprised at how many people will defend him and give him carte blanche for everything he does.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You guys think Dana should laugh off the shit BJ wrote about him in his book?
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Of course not. But don't act like a little bitch for the same shit that you pull on everybody else. You dish it out then learn to take it. Rule #5 of being a MAN.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Being a man matters on the street.
If I own a business and one of my employees writes shit about me(I haven’t read the book and won’t read a BJ Penn book) I make that fucker pay. Either fired or set up to fight someone he can’t beat. I’m vindictive though.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
by jay. on Aug 30, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Being a man matters in life. Unless one wants to be alone for the rest of his life.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Do you see Dana being alone though? It may matter to guys like you and I, but Dana will always have a room full of yes-man regardless of his actions.
And Chuck will always be there for him too.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
by jay. on Aug 30, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ok, I can see that.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Not saying it is right, OJ.
But Dana doesn’t strike me as the type of guy that will be making friends, more like buying them.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Fair enough. Did you like the card overall?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I did.
I was surprised to see people bashing it. I even thought the Kenny/Maynard fight was OKish.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Lentz bored me to tears. Otherwise, it was ok overall. Lauzon was a beast. Poor Gabe...
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
That Lentz fight was shit.
I hope they cut him. He didn’t throw 10 punches that entire fight. I hate guys that wrestle only. Him and Fitch should both die in a grease fire.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I will give Fitch some credit. He tries to GnP or to sub you even though he can't finish a fight to save his life. Lentz thought he was in a wrestling tournament. Awful.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I'm mostly basing the Fitch hate on this one on the Alves fight
That was a wrestling match.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I'm not a fitch fan by no means........
My brother loves him, the guy wins so I guess that’s the main thing…….
Blame Canada, Blame Canada, With all their hockey hullabaloo, And that bitch Anne Murray too, Blame Canada,Shame on Canada...............
Lol Hate much??
Blame Canada, Blame Canada, With all their hockey hullabaloo, And that bitch Anne Murray too, Blame Canada,Shame on Canada...............
I’m glad I missed that one. All these god damn D-I champion, 3X All-America wrestlers are coming out of school and shitting in the MMA bed. The UFC should make these fuckers serve a two-year residency like doctors do so they can learn how to throw a punch.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
That's an excellent idea, PW.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Agree
Plus more stand ups for LNP. More seperations against the fence…
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Bet that is the last time they show Lentz on Spike.
Dude just humped to a win.
Facebook is for gays!
Was that Quote of the Week good? I’m working a new job that doesn’t allow any internet usage, so my posting frequency is really falling off, thus reducing my odds of spouting a QotW.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Your odds were'nt that high to begin with.........
Lol jk buddy…….
Blame Canada, Blame Canada, With all their hockey hullabaloo, And that bitch Anne Murray too, Blame Canada,Shame on Canada...............
I’m rapidly approaching the 4000 comment mark just since the move to SBNation. I’ve dispatched untold amounts of brilliance in several of those posts
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
We were discussing this the other day, dubs.
It doesn’t feel right being 3 weeks in and you haven’t won yet. You’re consistently the funniest MF’er on Mania. It will come, don’t force it.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
LOL and Chuck will always be there for him to....
That just made my day, possibly week!
"My fault, my failure, is not in the passions I have, but in my lack of control of them."
OJ, it's kinda fiunny you say Dana is getting carte blanche
and yet that is okay for BJ get that treatment. Dana took the highroad if you didn’t listen to that interview. He said we have some issues but he wasn’t going to air them out in public. Dana’s gotta be a man?? BJ is the one that needs to grow up. If someone in that combo is the one that needs to surround themselves with ‘yes’ men, it definitely isn’t DW.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Aug 30, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Its kind of funny that I was not defending BJ at all. DW and Bj are the same types of people. Period.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Yeah
Hard to argue w/ that.
It was funny when ESPN was giving Strikeforce all kinds of air time when the Walker fight was coming up and hew was bashing them for covering it, but know he’s nutting all over the place since they are giving the UFC more air time.
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
lets face it, dr evil can basically do whatever he wants as far as mma is concerned
i think this is an unsubtle form of payback that has been brewing for a long time.
by freedomthrtyfve on Aug 30, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Welcome back.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
its only temporary...
i’ve just been dumped so i’m staying at my mams, and thought i’d hang with the guys to make me feel better..
by freedomthrtyfve on Aug 30, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Tough luck bro............
Hope all is well……
Blame Canada, Blame Canada, With all their hockey hullabaloo, And that bitch Anne Murray too, Blame Canada,Shame on Canada...............
Hey Freedom! Yea good luck with that!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
Freedom - sorry, man. You should change your style. Do some things different and break out of your rut. Good luck, brother.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
ya i noticed you were all of the sudden
Back on FB updating us folk. Disappeared for a while there free35. Had no clue what happened to ya. Hang in there.
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by daniel worby on Aug 30, 2010 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry to hear that man
If you need a cocky Geordie lad to argue with over Bisping online then I’m here. Seriously best of luck mate, in time everything will work out.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
by David W-S on Aug 30, 2010 10:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
stop it guys, your going to make me cry..
and yes she has got the goldfish, sorry, wahwahwahwahwahwah, (thats me crying by the way)
by freedomthrtyfve on Aug 30, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Broke my ass. BJ's notorious disregard for training caught up with him...again.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
As a Penn fan that fight was hard to watch.. He was picked apart.. I don’t think it is training at all.. I think once again it was a terrible game plan…He needs a new camp if he is going to compete… Whenever your corners advice is " I dont know BJ, what do you think?" or something like that.. Then you need to rethink…
I think all 3 : not training hard enough, poor game planning and Edgar is that good.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
i am watching the fight for the first time
and i am losing all the respect i had (if any) for bj and his corner
after rd 3, frankie gets technical advice from his corner, like any other pro, and bj’s corner is telling him stuff like “fuck that movement man. fuck that little cocksucker”
yeah thats the advice you give your boy going into rd 4 down 3-0…what a joke!!
I'm gonna go home, watch DirecTV, drink bud light and ride my Harley Davidson!!
BJ is suffering from the same problems Rampage has : bad camp, yes men and a lack of motivation.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
If he would just let the GSP shit go.................
He could walk into Greg Jackson’s and be the baddest LW in the world….again.
Blame Canada, Blame Canada, With all their hockey hullabaloo, And that bitch Anne Murray too, Blame Canada,Shame on Canada...............
I doubt they would have him.
Guida, Kenny, GSP and Diego all go there. BJ wouldn’t really fit in.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
That is true.
He has got to do something though. Rudy Valentino and the Marinivish’s are not getting it done…………..
Blame Canada, Blame Canada, With all their hockey hullabaloo, And that bitch Anne Murray too, Blame Canada,Shame on Canada...............
He could fit in nicely with Anderson Silva and his brutes.
I don’t think they have anyone that BJ has beaten and their style of fighting fits BJ better.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Yeah Black house would be nice............
He has too much pride though, my guess is he will probably not fight anymore…………..
Blame Canada, Blame Canada, With all their hockey hullabaloo, And that bitch Anne Murray too, Blame Canada,Shame on Canada...............
Agree
He’ll quit before he goes to a camp that makes him work hard. He doesn’t need any of this..
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I know one thing..........
If he wants to be the greatest fighter ever, he has got one hell of a road in front of him. He is not reaching that goal while in hilo………..
Blame Canada, Blame Canada, With all their hockey hullabaloo, And that bitch Anne Murray too, Blame Canada,Shame on Canada...............
Andy and BJ respect each other and have called each other the best p4p so its possible
However I can’t see him lasting long at Black House if he doesn’t put the work in. They won’t put up with anyone who thinks that they’re too good to train.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
by David W-S on Aug 30, 2010 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
definately.
his corner kept saying “you’re still tough” just telling him stuffs he wants to hear. absoltely no actually mma advice
I'm gonna go home, watch DirecTV, drink bud light and ride my Harley Davidson!!
Exactly OJR, BJ and Rampage need to switch to real camps BADLY.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
When did OJR start fighting???
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Humboldt Park Vale Tudo tournaments since 1990.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
JOE ROGAN IS FUCKED CRACKED
after rd 4, showing clips of edgar on top of bj pounding him, rogan says “when is the last time you saw someone do this to bj?”
GSP obviously and it wasnt even that long ago.
I'm gonna go home, watch DirecTV, drink bud light and ride my Harley Davidson!!
I did not feel sorry for BJ. Fuck that. And I am a fan of his. Props to Edgar for being hard working and humble. That's how champions should be.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Yup. I had it 5-0 for Edgar.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
What's wrong with UFC fantasy?
Does anybody else pick the fights on UFC fantasy? The scoring is all messed up. I picked 8/10 fighters, 6/10 methods, 8/10 rounds, and 6/10 minutes and finished 37th out of >13,000. I was only awarded 193 points, and the three fights I picked exactly right (Edgar, Maynard, Diaz) was awarded 27, 25 and 31 points instead of the normal 43. Also, I was given 27 points for the Randy fight even though I didn’t get the minute right. And I was only given 8 points for picking Lauzon, but 15 for picking Miller. Does anybody know what’s going on with their point system?
formerly the original UFCAddict... back when mania used to keep score of how many comments we made. Currently ranked 22nd on UFC.com fantasy picks.
Don't know
There appears to be something wrong with the scoring. I got 25 and 27 points for correct calls on Maynard and Lentz respectively. They might have revamped the scoring but it seems more likely that there’s a glitch. Seems consistent though as we both got 25 points for calling Maynard. Incidentally, they do send you a prize if you get top 20 but it takes months. .
by H.I. McDunnough on Aug 30, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
They have revamped the scoring system,
Its now called “Probably Outcomes” you get more points for picking underdogs and less for favorites and that goes right through Picking method, minute & round. I must have sent the UFC 4 emails between now and the Lesnar/Carwin fight. They still wont tell me how many points you are awarded for what and it is a little frustrating. Very vague answers from them. I asked them to send me a note outlining how many points and for what and they will not answer that question over and over again. Honestly I think the whole thing is fixed and the winners are somehow hand picked favorites. I have playing UFC Fantasy for years now and have never even come close to winning anything. I then look at who wins and the point differance between myself and the winners is immense. You cant get that many points without cheating somehow. I have asked over and over again at how the winners get so many points and how it is possible and have never been answered. I really know all the fighters asnd have been watching it since UFC 1 and I average about 160 points per UFC and the winners are always triple that easily. I just cant see how it happens without some sort of shadiness going on. Even on my best night I come in 60th and it pisses me off to be honest with you.
McD and Heelhook
Thanks guys for putting my mind at ease. I was like a little kid crying to my wife, “They cheated me! They cheated me!” I was in the top 20 once and got a DVD and a t-shirt. The very next one I finished 25th, and the top 20 supposedly got XBOX 360s. I wish I would have started it sooner. I also forgot to put my picks in at UFC 99, which had the most fights out of any UFC because we opened up our business at that time. We opened up a Beef ‘O’ Brady’s, and so now instead of 50 a pop, it costs us $700 to show the fights. But then again we almost break even with everybody coming to watch it, and it’s good marketing. I’m about 900 pts. away from first (which I’ll probably never catch) and 300 points away from falling out of the top 50 on ufc.com
formerly the original UFCAddict... back when mania used to keep score of how many comments we made. Currently ranked 22nd on UFC.com fantasy picks.
Gd
It was bad enough that bj got manhandled. Now I have to continue to listen to danago and her stupid little posts. Hopefully pb goes away but I am not holding my breath.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
by Deuce02 on Aug 30, 2010 1:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dana makes it sound like Tito vs Ken in their first fight. I think that BJ exposed Dana’s true personality in his book and Dana has hated him ever since. I still think BJ won the first fight. If Edgar would have fought the way he did a couple nights ago in the first fight I would be like ok he won fair and square. BJ just has no gameplan going into fights other than I am going to wreck you and that doesnt do well against a fighter that just wants to be elusive and win on points. He doesnt build a strategically sound gameplan like Randy or Greg Jackson. If he did he would be unstoppable. I have no doubt in my mind that BJ will get the belt again it’s just a matter of time.
Keep dreaming Frankie figured him out in the first fight, it’s just that most people were still in denial that the goat at LW could ever lose. But Frankie showed that hype doesn’t get you anything you have to execute your gameplan to win and he did just that and dominated BJ and I don’t see him losing that belt anytime soon.
"they mad at me, I keep going hard reppin/
cause what's your Rampage to Rashad Evans/"
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Dana on BJ
I guess on top of being a frontrunner Dana’s now a psychologist
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