UFC Quick Quote: Chael Sonnen says Lance Armstrong gave himself cancer
by James Kimball on Aug 3, 2010 3:32 PM EDT
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"When you screw up, you have to own it. That stuff really gets under my skin. Take Lance Armstrong. Lance Armstrong did a number of things and he gave himself cancer. He cheated, he did drugs, and he gave himself cancer. Well, instead of saying ‘Hey listen, I cheated and gave myself cancer, don't be like me.' He actually made himself the victim and then went out and profited something like $15 million dollars from this ‘Hey, poor me, let's find a cure for cancer' campaign instead of just coming clean and saying, ‘Look, here's what I did, I screwed myself up, and I hope people learn from my mistakes.' You just watch these guys and can't help but think, God, what a fraud. You got the whole Michael Phelps being a pothead thing too. I'm just glad I'm in the business I'm in so I can get them in the cage and kick the crap out of them."
Well, I guess this qualifies as an unexpected twist. Chael Sonnen has turned his focus away from Anderson Silva and onto Lance Armstrong. Yes, the guy who rides bicycles. When asked by Larry Pepe on Pro MMA Radio what really bothers Sonnnen, Chael all of a sudden went on this rant about the seven-time Tour de France victor. The number one middleweight contender alleges that Lance actually gave himself cancer by blood-doping and taking performance enhancing drugs. Once again, Mr. Sonnen didn't let a little thing like facts get in the way of spewing hot air. A quick Lance Armstrong search on Google reveals that the cyclist was diagnosed with testicular cancer in 1996, but won his first Tour de France while first being accused of using PED's in 1999. I'm surely not one to nitpick on facts when it comes to pre-fight trash talk, but in this case, the Oregon native has gone a little overboard. Where do you come out on this -- Are there any cycling fans, or virtually anybody else for that matter, who find this disturbing/irritating?
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Chael must be bored, now hes moving on to swimmers and cyclists. You might wanna focus on MMA dude, you are about to fight Anderson fuckin Silva next weekend after all..
Going to church doesnt make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car.
he's trying so hard to become a heel
and I think he’s becoming more of a joke with his last few rants.
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
To The MORONS Defending LANCE
All these morons talk about how much Lance has raised for cancer LOL
Do you have any idea how cancer research takes place?
None of this money goes into finding a “CURE” for cancer, but for more expensive treatment, so the medical industry can cash in on the craze.
Listen, I lost my dad to liver cancer. I know how it feels to lose a loved one. But if you wanna blame someone, blame FDA. Blame the government.
"Everyone should know that most cancer research is largely a fraud…" – Linus Pauling PhD (1901-1994) 2X Nobel Prize winner.
In fact, you’ll find plenty of people who’ve been cured of cancer eating apple seeds, which the FDA warns against eating… hmm.
by War Forrest on Aug 3, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
^^^^^^READ^^^^^^^^
"You stay classey, San Diego!" Bones post Janitor beat down at UFCVersus2
Who's next?
YEP!
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 3, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong
Not sure where you are from…but have you ever heard of the Dana Farber Cancer institute, or the Jimmy Fund? Most of the money raised goes directly to research to find a cure, the rest goes directly to patient care. And without some of these treatments that you talk about, my father would not be here right now. I am sorry about your dad, I lost a 17 year old cousin to bone cancer, but these drugs DO work in many cases. I do agree that FDA and the government is in bed with big pharma, but a lot of these Cancer centers like Dana Farber rely solely on contributions from the private sector. They are doing unbelievable things when it comes to curing cancer, so go tell the lady with breast cancer that was saved from an experimental treatment that they are a moron….
......
I like the Lance bashing
because he and most people in cycling are scum bags, but why drag Michael Phelps into this? That guy is the man. 8 gold medals and living proof that weed doesn’t do any harm. A real American hero unlike some doped up cyclist.
"I like being punched... I like... punchin'" ~Gray Maynard
"A black belt only covers two inches of your ass, you have to cover the rest" ~Royce Gracie
Chael Sonnen shocks the world at UFC 117
Really???
This is your reply to this news story? What the fuck? Not, “Sonnen is the most bigoted asshole the octogon has ever seen.” What you say might have some hold, but I think you’re missing the fucking point. Sonnen is a fucking tool and we should all be cheering for his ass of a mouth to be silenced. Go troll the FDA’s cancer research page. Keep your heartless comments about cancer to yourself. We’ve probably all lost someone close to cancer. That doesn’t grant us a free ride to be an ignorant fuck.
le sigh
You would rather have a lexus, some justice, a dream or some substance?
A beamer, a necklace or freedom? - Dead Prez
To the MORONS who have no idea what they are talking about
If anyone listens to war forrest on this one, then you really need to reevaluate your life. Lance was able to raise the money to pioneer a new chemotherapy drug. ATTENTION FOR IDIOTS WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT CANCER** This is the ONLY chemo drug that passes the blood brain barrier and hence is the ONLY DRUG that can be used to treat any form of brain cancer. Yes that very same thing he poured his own and other peoples money into managed to create the first chemo drug of this kind. If you blame the FDA you’re even more of an idiot since they prevent faulty drugs produced by money grubbing companies from hitting the market. Lastly, apple seeds? Are you the dumbest fucking person on the planet?! Apple seeds?!?!?! They contain cyanogenic glycoside (that includes cyanide and since you’re clearly dumber than a brick cyanide is poisonous to humans). Congratulations, people typing Lance is a fag or chael eats nuts have more convincing and better informed arguments than you. Go eat some apple seeds, idiot.
by airkerma on Aug 4, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's all about the cash....
…why cure someone ONCE when you can TREAT them for a lifetime? Which is why there is more $$ in meds rather than cures.
by Ian Kilmister on Aug 4, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
dude
I do not dispute that most of the money is not spent how it should and F the government for so many more reasons than that. However, Lance didn’t do what he di to raise money and help the med industry make more money even though that may be what he did it is not why he did it. He did to get more pus. Women love a guy who does stuff for charity especially a one ball dude in bike shorts. Okay seriously though, Chael has a blown up image of himself as a fighter. He is 24-10 and until Nate he lost to every person with a name we have heard of except Okami who had not had a fight in forever.
Chael is trying to sell a fight I get that but ripping on Lance makes no sense.
Fuck this clown. Now he has gone to far. I lost my dad less than a year ago cause of cancer. He smoked and ended up with lung cancer does that mean it hurts anyless? Or that he derseved to die? Lance has raised millions for cancer research, wtf have you done chael. I hope andy kills this mothafucker
by LOKIE on Aug 3, 2010 3:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just lost my uncle to cancer myself.
And for real, Lance may or may not have juiced, but what hes done for cancer awareness speaks for itself. Chael has no respect, it takes a real douche to say this shit.
Going to church doesnt make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car.
lokie - greenthumb
first my condolances. Im curious did he also profit the 15million as well as raise all that money? it seems he would have given all the proceeds to cancer not bank 15 million and then give them the rest? any idea if thats true?
I like the feeling of hunting down what I feed my family. If there’s a beast out there capable of hunting down Brock Lesnar, he would do it and make me the trophy on his den wall. But the laws of nature dictate that I’m going to be the one who goes into the wild and comes home with the evening’s bounty. - The #1 ranked HW in the world...
I COMPLETELY AGREE, NOW I WANT HIM TO GET KTFO
I dislike republicans on the best of days, but seriously Chael has become just an idiot all around.
LOL
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I got one for Sonnen; but I'm still hoping he beats A. Silva
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he’s going to beat Silva bro.
by PenguinDreams on Aug 3, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably not after this; karma is a bitch...
Probably the first fight where I’ll be booing both of them.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
nice
I like the feeling of hunting down what I feed my family. If there’s a beast out there capable of hunting down Brock Lesnar, he would do it and make me the trophy on his den wall. But the laws of nature dictate that I’m going to be the one who goes into the wild and comes home with the evening’s bounty. - The #1 ranked HW in the world...
That has won it for my fave Photoshop...
Florida Laws: 1- Having sexual relations with a porcupine is illegal. 2-If an elephant is left tied to a parking meter, the parking fee has to be paid just as it would for a vehicle.3- You may not fart in a public place after 6 P. 4- Oral sex is illegal. 5-You may not kiss your wife’s breasts.
And with that ladies and gentlemen, I bid goodnight to my political ambitions.
Asshole. Hope Anderson fucks you up.
by can't spell anarchy on Aug 3, 2010 6:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He is running out of shit to say
He seems to be getting a little nuttier each time out. He is convincing himself of his own greatness, but deep down, he knows he is in trouble- maybe causing him to go a little crazy. What the hell do Lance and Michael have to do with anything? So, he is so nuts he thinks he gets to put a beat down on them both in the cage? Alrighty.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
lol hes trying super hard to become "THE" Heel, but it takes a certain finesse, not just babbling bullshit that goes against the grain and common sense.
Brock’s got it, Tito had it, Josh is working on it and Chael needs to reign it in.
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 3, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
In his next interview he talks about how Mandela and Ghandi
were actually all self absorbed hate mongers, who got what they deserved. That Mother Teresa was no Mother of Mine according to Chael-She was a bleeding heart liberal whore, who made suffering third world people lazier and created an air of laziness, by giving them free healthcare and love. “Those lepers could have gotten jobs…Instead they are laying around, falling apart, and waitng for a handout” which was a direct quote from Chael…
Florida Laws: 1- Having sexual relations with a porcupine is illegal. 2-If an elephant is left tied to a parking meter, the parking fee has to be paid just as it would for a vehicle.3- You may not fart in a public place after 6 P. 4- Oral sex is illegal. 5-You may not kiss your wife’s breasts.
Am I a bad person to laugh out loud there???/
Mother Teresa was no Mother of Mine according to Chael-She was a bleeding heart liberal whore, who made suffering third world people lazier and created an air of laziness, by giving them free healthcare and love. "Those lepers could have gotten jobs…Instead they are laying around, falling apart, and waitng for a handout"
I like fighting.
Ya dude. He has lost it. I thought it was mildly entertaining the rants he would go on about Silva ducking him for 4 years
But this just absurd.
yes, that was funny
this is the exact opposite of funny. what was he thinking saying stupid shit like this? he better watch out for lances hook-cross…….i hear its pretty mean
never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do
What a terrific heel.
What do you need a fancy suit for, Charlie, you ain't got no job to wear it to.
FUCKING AWESOME
I ALMOST agree with him. We all have cancer in our bodies…what if the steroids brought them cells out in Lance?
so you're a doctor I pressume?
the following two things are signs of weaknesses:
stay silent when it's needed to speak up, and speak up when it's needed to stay silent.
I really hope this is just a poor joke
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
It is a joke
but it is true we all have cancer cells in us, do you know what makes them kill some and not others? I don’t! So my point was it’s feasible, is it what I think? Absolutely not! My wife does runs and stuff for cancer, my gram died of it and now my gramps’s 2nd wife is dying and in hospital right now (for over a week), so sorry if I offended. Just trying to make a point…I hate cheats!
Do we all have cancer cells in our body?
No. “Everyone has cells that have mutant proteins from DNA damage, but to say that that’s cancer would be alarmist,” says Jennifer Loros, Ph.D, a professor of biochemistry and genetics at Dartmouth medical school.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P53
this is what keeps us from getting cancer for the most part
Fan of Tiger 'Makin It Rain' Woods
by B-A-N-A-N-A-S on Aug 3, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
you didn't offend
I am sorry about your grandmother and grandfathers 2nd wife…everyone on this board has been affected by cancer in so came way. But to say that everyone has cancer cells in their body is flat out wrong.
......
Depends on your definition of cancer. Is it one isolated cell or group of cells that the body can take care of, or is it when it gets out of hand to a point where it impedes normal function of the tissue. When do you call it cancer?
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Well...
Cancer is caused by healthy cells that get unhealthy, per say. So yes, we all have “cancer” cells in that respect. But actual cancer cells grow/split at an alarming rate, metastasize and invade healthy cells and tissue. that’s what causes cancer. We really don’t do anything that directly causes cancer, in the way we that we do things that do actually cause HIV or other STDs.
Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.
I was just saying that the definition is difficult to express when you talk about ‘whether everyone has it or not’. I wouldn’t consider it ‘cancer’ until it starts to impede the function and structure of otherwise normal tissue. I work with a guy who is doing some research on blocking cancer cell’s somewhat endless ability to maintain their telomeres during proliferation in order to treat of some cancers, which is really an interesting approach.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Regardless if he did fuck chael kevin. I just lost my pop to this shit man and he did cause it himself by smoking, but does that mean he deserved to die and we should miss him???
by LOKIE on Aug 3, 2010 3:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My grandfather just died from lung cancer and he's never smoked.
That shit wrecked him fast. Went from one of the healthiest looking 80 year olds I’ve ever seen, golfing and doing yardwork everyday to looking like a Holocaust victim in a matter of weeks.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Sorry for the loss
Cancer is a shit we really cant make fun of, well unless your scott Tennorman and you have cancer in your ass. However, at my regular job i see this everyday, and when it becomes incurable the details are horrific. Those people quickly qualify for disability. It really never is fun to read the gruesome details.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
Not sure that anyone is making fun of cancer here.
Lost my fair share of loved ones to cancer as well, but I don’t take offence to what Sonnen said. If he was laughing at the fact that someone had cancer that would be unacceptable.
" Its a good thing you look good in that suit, cos that's all you're gonna be doing - wearing a suit."
He’s basically saying since. Lance " gave himself cancer" we shouldn’t care he survived it. Fact is a lot of people use the fact he beat cancer as inspiration so yeah in a way he is. Maybe I’m wrong but I hope he is completely destroyed come Sunday morning
by LOKIE on Aug 3, 2010 4:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks man, but I really believe he's in a better place. And if someone wiseass doesn't believe in an afterlife you can keep your comments to yourself.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Talk about irony man I never did believe untill my dad died then at his funeral it was like he was talking to me. Now I have nothing but faith. I just refuse to believe ill never see him again
by LOKIE on Aug 3, 2010 4:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that sucks and that is awesome
Sorry about the Pops, but that is very cool that you connected with him like that. There is something there. I just am not smart enough to figure out what.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I truly believe that your essence becomes one with the universe after death.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Aug 3, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
man i would sleep better (i do) if i could believe that :/
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 3, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
you'd sleep better knowing you were nothing but a hollow empty vessel for some soul that needed to learn a cosmic lesson through your eyes?
That one with the universe shit is the worst one, it means I’m like a computer and the soul is the power source, my personality, my characteristics and everything that makes me me all discarded upon death, then this essence moves on to the next body for another lesson. Parasitic.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe every decision you make turns you into a more heavenly or hellish creature, and that continues in the afterlife.
Eventually you become an angelic being close to the Creator, or you become a miserable demonic being away from the Creator. That’s just what I think though.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Everyone's trying to move toward some state of perfection
I spit on perfection; perfection implies there’s no more mystery, nothing new to discover, no new challenge to rise to and over come, no more hardship or adversity to conquer. I like challenges, I like mystery and unexplainable phenomina, fuck the afterlife.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know, perfection sounds pretty nice to me.
In my opinion I don’t have a choice though. There’s a winning team and a losing team. You can be on the winning team and be happy, or you can be on the losing team and suffer. I’ll take happiness.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
I like my imperfections, the challenges, the adversity of life
My only regret is that I only get to do this once.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
is that a quote from somewhere?? if not make that your sig thats good shit, preach on.
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 3, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure someone else came up with it before I did but I haven't read it anywhere
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly OD
the trials and tribulation of life are not lessons meant to be learned, they are reminders of what it is we are striving for. They keep us on our toes and remind us that we are not just here to lead a life from beginning to end, there is a goal that is meant to be met at the end of this journey.
Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.
I agree O damn. I like life, and I don't believe in an afterlife because I can't accept the hand I've been dealt in this life. I simply believe this isn't the whole story, and we exist on a different plane(or dimension, something like that) after we die
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
OD - Science has proven that life is cyclical. Not too much of a stretch to believe that you rejoin the universe in the same way, shape or form that you were before your creation.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Aug 3, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not me
I don’t want to live in a world where I don’t have my package..
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not me, either. I am not into angels or demons or stuff like that.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Aug 3, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
And life is only cyclical short term anyway
In about 5 billion years our sun is gonna turn into a red giant as it gets ready to implode on itself consuming this little dust ball and everything left on it =P every star eventually burns out or super nova’s into a black hole, at the end of time this universe will be cold/dark and empty.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Our sun will be a white dwarf slowly cooling down for over 100 billion years.
But yes, ultimately, it will all be dark and cold.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
implode was the wrong word, but it still hits the red giant phase consuming mercury, venus and earth before going to the white dwarf stage.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
stephan hawking: Into the Universe
i smoked and watched that……mind blowing.
makes life, overall, rather insignificant tho…..
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 3, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of people have a hard time coming to terms with that
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of people have a hard time coming to terms with that
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
so nice i had to post it twice
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting. How about the concept that energy is never destroyed...only converted? So before the ignition of the universe - the Big Bang (if you will) - wasn't the universe cold, dark and empty? Notice a trend, OD?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Aug 3, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Conservation of energy is not just a concept, it's the first law of thermodynamics.
And before the Big Bang, theoretically speaking, there was no space and time therefore the universe couldn’t be anything since it just wasn’t. It’s all speculations though, only Chuck Norris could answer that one for sure.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
Thanks for the info. I think I made my point since it is (scientifically) literally impossible to build a Big Bang based on nothing.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Aug 3, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
stephen hawking into the universe
WATCH IT.
not that itll sway you, but it could, and either way it is DAMN interesting and somewhat mindblowing
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 3, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I know exaclty what you mean. I worked with my old man and all was fine then one day he said he felt like he had water in his lungs and collapsed. His lungs filled with. Blood that’s how they found it. He was diagnosed mid september and dies december 10th
by LOKIE on Aug 3, 2010 4:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's hard to watch that. Really depressing, but you hold on to the good times.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
If you know something is killing you and you choose to do it anyway then yes you deserve to die… And yes you should miss him…
A lot of older people didn't know about the dangers of smoking until they were already doing it for decades.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
I don’t buy that argument.. My Mom gave me the same shit and its bogus..You know that you cant do that shit…Its common sense…
Uhh...you can't argue with history. It is a fact that the Surgeon General didn't provide warnings until 1970. And even then the warning was: "Smoking is dangerous to your health"
Specifics didn’t come until ’85.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
As a human being with any common sense how can you think inhaling smoke would not have an impact?? Come on man… And if they stopped smoking in 1985 then i might be willing to concede..But somehow I doubt it.. As someone who struggles w/ the disease every single day I don’t feel
Well if the person is older in their 70s, 80s, and 90s, they probably were not aware of
how bad Cigarettes were. During the 60s there were commercials as to how healthy cigarettes made you.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
and what happens if we find out that cell phones cause cancer too
It might be considered common knowledge 50 years from now that it was stupid to put that kind of electronic device next to your brain so regularly. Hindsight is 20/20 man.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Ya but your looking with 20/20 hindsight. Which is as
easy as monday morning quarterbacking. You have to think about how people thought of things and lived life back then. Not by how you know how things are now. It was these lies during the 40s through the 60s that gave cigarettes their aura image.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
There's tons of shit that's easy to second guess looking back. In 50 years you might think anyone would be an idiot to use a cell phone because it may cause brain cancer.
You’re just ignorant if you want to say that people really knew smoking was always bad, and that they just are saying that they didn’t know for some reason. Yeah, I’m sure all these people are lying, added with the fact that there weren’t warnings.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Actually I am well aware that down the road cell phones as well as preservitives we put on food could be linked to cancer.
Dude you are lighting a stick and inhaling it??? How do you not think that is a stupid thing to do?
the fact is you can't really even speak to this without bias
none of us were there (unless you are much, much older than I am, which I doubt). There are countless topics that our opinions as a human race change on regularly. I don’t need to review history here for you.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I don’t disagree with you.. On this topic I just feel the individual holds some responsibilty.. We are always so quick to blame everyone else without looking in the mirror..
That perspective I can agree with
too much of that going on for sure. Blame others, never your fault for failing, etc etc. That is a major problem in our (my, sorry US) society.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I smoke, and i wont ever blame anyone for the consequences. I dont know why anyone would, I agree people should know the risks of their behavior. Every stupid thing I've ever done ive taken credit for. Can't understand when people dont take up for things
that were their fault
Going to church doesnt make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car.
dammit dice
I didn’t see this. Missed your post by 1 min. Posted the same shit above.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Ha! Almost verbatim. This guy is just trolling, acting like he can see the future.
It’s real easy to say stuff now, but knowledge changes with the times.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Dice… are you kidding me? You need a surgeon general warning to figure out lighting something and inhaling it might not be a good idea? I feel sorry for you if that is true.. Some things this argument would be true.. But you are inhaling smoke for God sake..You have to realize how dumb that is without someone telling you
it is easy to say that from your perspective
when you have been inundated with the anti-smoking thing (probably since before you were born).
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
So you were never influence by the 1960s Flinstone Cigarette commercials
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
sorry I am a history nerd and have a couple of VHS tapes titled "those crazy old commercials"
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
Tell me about it at 36 I thought I was one of the oldest poster here
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
Yep
I am 32. Figured I was a bit above average. Good to know I am not talking to teeny bobbers all the time.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Same reply as Jake1977
Except I’m 34.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I’m 35 next month. I’m going to celebrate by taking a belt to some of these goddamn whippersnappers.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
I turn 35 in two months
I got my belt ready and my slippers on stand-by. I’m ready for mid-30’s.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I think I am the oldest fuck in here at 38.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
Wrong - 43 going on 44 in a few weeks
Hey - who cuts your hair?
Cheech Marin - Up in Smoke
by hairybumcrack on Aug 3, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
The dude that started this conversation
Is 56.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
That's impossible.
People that old don’t use computers.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
I am a bit younger than a lot of you
but, when it comes to the teens and kids these days (the little tykes are cute, I am talking the little shits)
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I realize that there is a 56 yr old who posted this
What the hell is he doing watching MMA? Thought he’d be tuned into Green Acres or Beachcombers….
Hey - who cuts your hair?
Cheech Marin - Up in Smoke
by hairybumcrack on Aug 3, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
wait who is 56?
im 30 and thopught i was old…
I like the feeling of hunting down what I feed my family. If there’s a beast out there capable of hunting down Brock Lesnar, he would do it and make me the trophy on his den wall. But the laws of nature dictate that I’m going to be the one who goes into the wild and comes home with the evening’s bounty. - The #1 ranked HW in the world...
how old is Lester the racist?
Cause if the older you are, the better poster, that would make Lester say about 4 years old?
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be 36 in Oct. i’m surprised that most everybody here is in their 30’s. i always thought i was the old one on here. am i the only one that it takes 5 minutes to type this out? i know us older folk never took a typing class in high school….lol
Fatattack - ya geezer! :)
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Holy shit I’m a baby on mania lol I’m 26 years young
by LOKIE on Aug 4, 2010 10:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you kidding ME? All throughout history there have been things done that are later looked upon as foolish.
Don’t get mad at me because you lack any type of perspective whatsoever. There have ALWAYS been and ALWAYS will be things that certain societies and people groups do that end up being harmful that they don’t even realize.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
I don’t lack perspective.. I think you lack common sense… It was not hard to figure out for myself that sucking in something that immediately made me cough and gag might be bad for me..Did I know the extent? no I did not but I was to determine for myself that it might not be a good idea..
Yes, but I understand that we don’t yet have all the information and that there might be side effects..I am accepting that risk and will accept the consequences…
Ok, so at least you acknowledge that. So if you have brain cancer in 20 years and people say you're a complete moron for holding a device that puts out radioactive waves right next to your brain you're going to say,
“Duh, what idiot wouldn’t know that?”
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Hey, I still have a shitty flip phone. I can talk and text. That’s it.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Same. I get internet but don't use it
I only need a phone for texting. I don’t see the point of being able to do everything a computer does while moving.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I didn't either
until I got a nice phone. Now, I get it. It is nice to be able to check mania when I am waiting at the Dr. office, or even at the beach.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
they say having the cell in your pocket lowers sperm count
its all relative. in 50-60 years we/they will look back and say what we/they thinking with cell phones, chemical burgers, microwaves, blootooth, etc.
then again, people today still smoke cigarettes, knowing.
im gonna invest into chrionics so i can come back with Disney and see this shit.
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 3, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
shit man its GMO's that scare me
genetically modifying our foods. Who knows what that shit is going to do to us one day.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
my aunt who has cancer that has spread to her lymphs and is fighting a losing battle
(after having lived an entire life devoted and given to the lord, but thats for another discussion) blames the food. the chemicals, the modifications, the preservatives, etc. She now refuses to eat anything that isnt natural, all vegtables and juices 99.99 of every meal. no chicken, cow, meant, colas, nothing.
and you know the weird thing, once you start eating healthy even for a solid month or two and you try eating some of the same old bullshit drive thru crap, you get sick. that should tell us something.
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 3, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
true man
I quit eating McD’s for like 3 years, tried it and had stomach problems for a few days. Not a coincidence. We are eating crap right now. To me, that is a much bigger concern than smoking, yet it is the smokers that catch hell. Obesity is our biggest problem right now.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Obesity is crazy. I do honestly feel sorry for some obese people though. I used to have no sympathy because I just thought they're all lazy(which to a degree may have some truth),
but when all natural food is twice the price of junk food, and people are broke, what do you do? It’s disheartening to see obese kids whose parents feed them fast food everyday because their kid will get full off the dollar menu, but can’t get full eating $2-3 worth of stuff that’s not awful for you. My cousin is an organic farmer and she raises goats and chickens, and I’ve got a ton of respect for her. She saw the problem and decided to be part of the solution.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
for sure man
It is a deep problem. You have kids that grew up with shitty parents who didn’t teach them about proper diet and exercise. They just eat crap and live a very sedentary lifestyle. At the same time, they are taught by our society that it is ok to “be themselves”. I hate to be the dickhead here, but sometimes calling that little fat boy tubby might be the best thing you can do to help them. Embarrassment is a hellava motivator.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
100% agreed.
was down at the beach all weekend for the US open, and aside from the mass of good body flocks, the amount of little fat kids who could be classified as obese running around was astonishing. it is literally an epidemic. I cant help but blame the parents, but its almost just part of our culture today.
and the same thing with me. I was eating GREAT for about 3 months, then i had jack n the box or some shitty thing and was beyond sick. i didnt even like the taste. NOW, i have slowly got back into it and eat out 2-3 times a week. HORRIBLE. SAme with soda. i only drink water (1gal per day) and cant even stand the taste of a pepsi.
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 3, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
soda is my #1 problem
But still man, if I am active for even 30 minutes a day (30 lowsy minutes of something) ball, bike, run, whatever. I can eat whatever the F I want. Not everyone has that kind of chemical makeup, but no one has a decent excuse for being 100 pounds or more overweight.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I'm the same way Deuce, my metabolism is great. I also recognize that I'm really blessed with that.
It’s started slowing down a little over the past couple years, but it’s still pretty damn good. I try not to take that for granted because some people have to eat better than me and workout twice as hard to keep the same amount of body fat percentage. That’s not me be arrogant, that’s me being grateful.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
DICE,
upon thinking about it real quick, i cant think of a single person in my family with good metbolism, and that includes me. I am in damn good shape (i say with a tad of arrogance because it doesnt come easy). I HAVE to eat right, drink right, and work out to keep my abs. If i eat “regular” and don’t work out, im a heft clunker in a damn month it seems like.
wish i had jonny jones genetics, that dude is HUGE and LEAN…he’ll be a damn HW ina few years
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 3, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
telling you, do 3 weeks of only water, miraculously the taste of it wont even be good anymore.
i agree, kids are growing up eating SHIT on every street corner and indoors playing video games instead of outside playing sports and running around.
youre right, 45 minutes of your day (which is nothing) and you can eat/drink just about anything you want (not that that gets rid of the chemicals) but in regards to obesity.
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 3, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know about that.. I drink nothing but water on a regular basis and every now and again cola still tastes good to me...
So does a nice cold brew
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
brew? yes but because i stay on it
a few weeks without soda for me and i cant stand the taste. Like a candy syrup and it quenches no thirst. idk guess it differs.
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 3, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I am good there
I breath on my wife and she gets pregnant….I have three kids now and don’t want more so I am doing to strap my phone to my nuts…
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38...
and I see some truth in that theory, but you would really have to go aways back to find folks that wer’nt warned. That said. I have very little empathy for people that took up smoking in our lifetime, and then want to cry about it’s ills after they’re spitting black mucus. I walk by a mall entrance, and see these 14 yr old kids suckin em back, or a college campus full of cool artsy fartsy types smoking like there’s no tomorrow. And, don’t think hese are’nt the same idiots that will be (are) demanding that someone give them free healthcare to deal with the consequences. And for the record, I’m all for smiking being legal, and people having the roght to do as they see fit, just don’t expect me to care in 20 years, or pay for all the crap you’re gonna need to kick em.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
agreed!!
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 3, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if your from US Jrandolph
Here in Canada smokers have to pay the goverment for smoking wich goes to the health care. Average cost of a 25 pack of smokes = $11.00, 40% goes to the cigarette company and the rest goes to the goverment were we are told most of the goverment tax on smokes goes to health care? So if your a smoker that smokes a pack every 2 days your giving around $102.00 a month, 1220.00 a year towards the Canadian health care wether you use it or not.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
U.S. I am
We also have a high “sin” tax on cigs as well, which, we were told was supposed to do two things.
1. Deter people from engaging in such horrid behaviour to begin with.
2. Help pay for the health care of the very same people filling their lungs with smoke, and the less fortunate.
The first didn’t work, and the second by definition, means the government needs people to continue to kill themselves (usually the “weaker” among us) in order to pay for their subsidized philanthropy.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
Disagree with one point.
I smoke, but i dont consider myself weak. Granted I only smoke smoke 1-2 cigarettes daily, unlike people who smoke a pack (agreed thats awful.) But i work hard, i contribute to society and so far ive been successful. Smoking is obviously a terrible habit, but it doesnt make one weak.
Going to church doesnt make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car.
My bad
I wasn’t meaning to say that if you smoke you are weak. My point was, that the government usually acts like they are helping the “needy” but they look for those they consider the weaker among us to pay for it. It’s their whole notion of who is or is not worth keeping around. They have the notion that most smokers are ignorant dumb rednecks, or ghetto rats, so let kill themselves off, while paying for our healthcare at the same time. A little bit conspiratorial I know, but there it is.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
Okay gotcha
Going to church doesnt make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car.
I agree with that
I smoke, but i wont ever blame anyone for the problems it gives me. I hope i find the will to quit someday (not there yet.) If you dont want to stop, you wont, but blaming other people for it is ridiculous.
Going to church doesnt make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car.
By the way...
Your signature is one of my Pastor’s favorite quotes, and true as well.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
You really are on a roll, obviously I know smoking is bad for your health because I have that knowledge.
If I lived in a society where more than half the adults smoked and no one ever said there was anything detrimental about it, I might feel differently.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Okay, just agree to disagree… You are emotional regarding the topic…which is understandable and clouds your thought process..
Lol, whatever man. I'm looking at a period of history and telling you that people generally thought smoking wasn't harmful, and you're arguing that's not true.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Right, got it. Clearly all those people were lying, delusional and stupid, but there's no chance you're being a Monday morning quarterback. Good to know.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
my whole point is
that I just don’t know. It is easy to sit and debate, but living it, well, who knows what decisions we would have made. Take a look at 1935 Germany. I bet most of those people weren’t ready to start eradicating an an entire culture of people. Propaganda works better than many like to admit to.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I understand it works..That is a major problem w/ society…You need to do your own research and just be responisible for your actions..Everyone is so quick to blame someone else all the time
Okay he deserved to die? So when you have that beer then drive you deserve to be dead to right or when your speeding think before you speak fuck face
by LOKIE on Aug 3, 2010 4:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Read your post jack ass " if someone keeps doing something is bad for them then yeah they derseve to die " so either you just say shit to have a different opinion, or you can’t remember what comes out of your own mouth
by LOKIE on Aug 4, 2010 12:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And for the record. Nicotine is the most addictive substance on the planet. More so than heroin
by LOKIE on Aug 4, 2010 9:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
More addictive than camel toe?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Aug 4, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol. You got me there. Okay vagina is more addictive your right. Nice ojr
by LOKIE on Aug 4, 2010 10:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just messing with you. Seriously though, you are correct.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Lokie, I think the point that is trying to brought out is that Lance still denies steroids even though 99% of us don't believe him.
Just about everybody in cycling takes steroids – its a fact. So the guy that won like 7 times in a row competing in the dirtiest sport there is (drug wise) was supposed to be clean and we all are supposed to just believe him?
Yet, he denies that he took steroids and acts like he has no idea how he could have gotten cancer.
I’m quite sure that you’re dad didn’t deny smoking cigarettes once he was diagnosed with cancer.
That is the difference.
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
Well someone who was intelligant enough to run for a public office should be smart enough to state that and leave cancer out of wouldn’t you think???
by LOKIE on Aug 3, 2010 4:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just to be clear
You don’t have to be intelligent to run for office. Here are the requirements.
“You have to be at least 30 years old, a citizen of the US for at least the past nine years and a resident of the state you would like to represent as per Article 1, Section 3 of the Constitution. "
by PenguinDreams on Aug 3, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not fucking stupid I know all about that shit but to make it as far as he did you have to be some what intelligant ass
by LOKIE on Aug 3, 2010 6:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey now
No need to start name calling. Just making a point, not trying to attack you.
by PenguinDreams on Aug 3, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Lokie is normally polite. He just gets out of control sometimes.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Jay you are right. I try not to be a dick, and be cool but sometimes LOKIE comes out and I end up getting riled up and well being a dick lol
by LOKIE on Aug 4, 2010 1:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn’t call you a name. I said I’m not fucking stupid
by LOKIE on Aug 4, 2010 1:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My bad I did lol sorry man. That “ass” comment came out of nowhere. Didn’t even realized I said it
by LOKIE on Aug 4, 2010 1:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I do get your point though but fuck sonnen. He just struck a fucking nerve. I do agree about the admitting his faults part, but we don’t know he didn’t tell his dr the truth. They can’t disclose that
by LOKIE on Aug 3, 2010 4:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Chael is no doubt fucked up for saying this. We our undoubtedly on the same page here.
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
I don’t give a fuck about who admits what. I’m not the fucking moral conscience police nor do I have the time to give a shit about what people do as long as it doesn’t effect me. Yeah in a perfect world everyone would admit their shortcomings, but we all know this isn’t a perfect world and trying to make it that way is a path to totalitarianism.
by PenguinDreams on Aug 3, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you kidding me, Mike? Lance denies Steroids BECAUSE..HE...NEVER....EVER....DID THEM!!!
99% of us don’t believe him??? Unless you count yourself as the 99%, you are dead wrong, buddy.
Floyd Landis can go take a flying leap off a cliff for all the crap and LIES…yes….LIES he’s spewing on Lance.
Better quite drinkin beer then
Beer is also proven to cause cancer. Fact is that most anything if taken to much will cause it. That’s doesn’t mean that you “gave it to yourself” everyones body reacts differently.
by PenguinDreams on Aug 3, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Beer causes cancer? Well, I'm fucked.
I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.
by BNF on Aug 3, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
and loving it
I take full responsibility for dying from beer cancer. Bring it.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Thats BS they are saying now that it might be cans that beer are consumed from
Much like drinking water from a plastic bottle.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
They really have no effing clue
There are 2 studies to refute anything another study says.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Well virtually all tour de france winners seem to do steriods so I wouldn’t doubt it. That being said there’s no proof that he has.
Goldberg on Leben: One thing's for sure--he really did break that door on the Ultimate Fighter.
Rogan: uh...yeah.
Fuck Lance.
But Chael is the biggest tool ever, he’s gonna choke bad this Sat.(no pun intended) I mean it, I bet he gets finished in the first 2 min.
Ride the Tiger!
What an idiot
I hope this guy never wins the belt or else we’re all going to have to listen to his right wing ranting for years.
by PenguinDreams on Aug 3, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
And Chael Sonnen proves beyond a shadow of a doubt what a nasty piece of shit he is
Ranting about Lance Armstrong having cancer, are you serious? Absolutely disgusting, it’s one thing to make idiotic statements about MMA but to insult someone for almost dieing is beyond belief, it takes a real piece of shit to say things like that. Fuck Sonnen and fuck anyone else who agrees with this nonsense. And to think this moron actually ran for congress.
"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion
I don’t agree with the beyond a shadow of a doubt thing.. But you have to acknowledge that this could quite possibly be true… It is stupid for him to say it cause it has nothing to do with him and it is classless but doesn’t make it false..
I'd say beyond a shadow of doubt is correct...
Pretty over the top. The guy is just popping off about whatever trying to get a rise out of everyone. Apparently it’s working since we’re talking about this, but he is way out of line on this one. I don’t like the guy, but he’s got me interested in watching him catch a nice beating.
What???
Cancer could “quite possibly” be caused by little green men zapping us from mars with their ray guns too. Sounds stupid, doesn’t make it false though????
If this guys name was Dr/Professor Chael Sonnen, he might be worth listening to on the subject.
Take Chael out of it…. I am just saying if it was true…If Lance has doped for years and years does it make the statement any less vulgar ??
No. Would it be ok for an athlete to come out and rant about how he hates Magic Johnson because he has HIV because he slept with a bunch of women without protection?
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Why wouldn’t it be? Not sure why anyone has compassion for something that an individual chooses to do…
I don't have compassion for something they do. I have compassion(in this case, more like a basic sense of decency) for the individual though.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
You pay consequences for your actions.. Such is life… Would I rather he not get AIDS or Lance not get cancer ..>Sure…But that’s not up to me..And if they engaged in activities that increased the likelihood then that is on them… I’ll choose to focus on those who did not have that choice and were still unfortunate enough to get sick…
My point is tact. I learned the lesson you're attempting to teach when I was 5. OBVIOUSLY every action has a reaction or consequence. The issue is having the decency and tact to mind your own business.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Until Chael can actually show where Lance used anything illegal, he can go fuck himself. I wanted him to win before, but now I hope Silva tortures him for a few rounds before finishing him off.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
LOL
I read the Armstrong book but I forget, does he hail from the fine state of Texas?
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Yeah hes Texan
He is also a way more talented athlete than Chael could ever be. Think what you want about the guy. but hes a freak of nature. 1 in a million type athlete, with a crazy work ethic to go with it.
Going to church doesnt make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car.
Not just Texan, he and I grew up in the same city. He’s a few years older, so I never knew him though.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Show me where Sonnen was making a joke about Lance having cancer.
And I will understand your discust.
" Its a good thing you look good in that suit, cos that's all you're gonna be doing - wearing a suit."
Chael's really trying to earn an ass-whupping...
Come on Chael, move up to HW and fight James Toney.
Yeah and Michael Phelps is like one of the greatest potheads ever!
He gets his face on a box of Wheaties then eats a box of Coco Puffs, know what i’m saying?
Ride the Tiger!
damn i havent had coco puffs in sooo many years (talking cereal here boys).
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 3, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell Yeah
Good for him. He should be able to do whatever he wants.
by PenguinDreams on Aug 3, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Sonnen wins
This guy is super hilarious. I hope he wins so he can keep talking all the sh*t he wants
Hilarious?
Jesus Christ dude, Dave Chappelle is hilarious. This guys just out of touch with reality. Dont know how you can find this funny. I personally find it pathetic.
Going to church doesnt make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car.
Pathetic is a good description
It smells like desperation or something.
by The real Philo on Aug 3, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Sonnen has lost his mind...
a narcissistic SofA Bitch,, D White should call him on this one.
Maybe out of bounds...
But, we’re all big boys. Look, society has built it’s own dumb “policies” on who can and can’t say stupid stuff. A comedian says this and we all say “eh, he’s a comedian, it’s his job”. The thing is, Chael uses his runaway mouth for the very same reason a comedian does, TO GET ATTENTION! It works ‘cause we let it work. Right or wrong, that’s a reality.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
NO!!! 'Cause Sonnen is NOT A COMEDIAN! He's Trying to Hype a fight by Tossing SLANDER/LIBEL against people in other sports that probably have never even heard of him.
There are certain things you should never say in a public venue and Sonnen said one of them.
There is no scientific evidence linking steroid use to testicular cancer....
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 4:06 PM EDT reply actions
^^^^^^^^^^TTTTTTTHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Which makes this statement even more pathetic and absurd than it is at first glance.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
but there is a link to testicular shrinkage, which may negate the cancer
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
LMAO
are you saying that steroids shrinking his balls would have given him a bigger chance of NOT getting cancer?!?! LMAOOOOO oh shit that’s a whole new level of…nevermind. =x
Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.
Lance Armstrong
is an egotistical douche, who looks down his nose at the rest of the world………..and he uses PED’s…there, I said it.
Pain don't hurt...
And you’re an ill-informed fucktard … there, I said it.
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by OJR on Aug 3, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Lance actually went to the same high school as I did. He was a few years ahead of me so i never knew him. Plus he dropped out and finished at some private school or something to start his triathlon career.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
I just asked that question up there
No wonder why you’re so pissed. It’s almost as if Chael said something about Brock.
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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
It’s not even that. Lance has done so much in the world of sports and socially that he doesn’t deserve to have some loudmouth douchebag trashing with accusations that he pulls out of his ass. If he was from wisconsin I would still defend everything he’s done. The fact that Lance is one of my own just makes it all the more personal.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Why did he even call out Armsrong when it has nothing to with him or MMA?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I'm trying to join the conversation without using the term "dumbass Republican".
Can’t do it.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
I find it ironic
that you were trying to bust my balls the other day when you seemed to think my comment about BO had some political slant, and here you are appearing to have an ax to grind with Republicans. Seems hypocritical to me.
Besides, don’t you live in Canada? Are you an expatriate or something?
by The real Philo on Aug 3, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Why's everyone defend Lance Armstrong?
He is a lying douche.
Fuck him
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Aug 3, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
You think he never took a single performance enhancer while cycling?
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
Who gives a fuc* it has been rumored many do that cycle and he happens to be one of them
Regardless if he cheated or not the fact he had cancer is nothing to with his cheating that can be proved, and Sonnen stating this makes him sound very ignorant. Him and Bush might of came from the same educational system though.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Show me a positive test. Lance has been drug tested more than anyone in the history of sports. Not one positive test. No elevated levels of anything. When you combine perfect genetics with an unparalleled work ethic and kill-everyone-in-my-way mentality you get Lance Armstrong. And Michael Jordan
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Right on, everyone wants to hate on Lance
I think hes just that fucking awesome. Hes done amazing things in cycling, and even more helping people. Why hate? The guys a workhorse who did a shitload for charity.
Going to church doesnt make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car.
no
I don’t know. I don’t really care. If he did he isn’t the only one. That shit is present in every sport. I just don’t think of him as a douche.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Wow, jsut one thing to Chael
FUCK YOU!!!!!
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by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
If Chael is reading this thread he is thinking mission accomplished!!!! I just started a cancer thread!
bottom line is….Chael is a d-bag and I cant wait until he gets smashed Saturday.
......
you know what else chael did besides pissing people off??
Hes gonna get people to buy the ppv that probably weren’t going to just so they can see him get punched in the face..its a dickhead thing to do but from a sales standpoint its only going to increase buys
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by salamagogo on Aug 3, 2010 4:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I like chael sonnen
I can’t wait until he kicks the shit out of anderson. Even my gf wants chael to win. Andersons last performance is still fresh in my mind and hes a disrespectful little bitch. Oh yeah i don’t know why chael is going at lance armstrong…but i think it’s funny!!
Wait, so Silva's disrespectful for dancing and yelling at Maia, but Sonnen is funny for the comments he makes? That makes sense.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Great point Dice
Whats worse Sonnens comments or Silva’s dancing? I would pick Sonnens comments, but thats just me?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
eh
I don’t pay to read Chael’s crap, but I do to watch Andy fight. So I say Andy.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Yea that dancing crap needs to stop
More fight less dance in the main event
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
That should have been Chael's campaign slogan
“More Fight, Less Dance”. I think we can all get down with that.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Very Miyagi-esque...only he should say it in a threatening way.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
by Diceman on Aug 4, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good point there too Deuce and I think a even better reason not to like a fighter
But with saying that Silva has given us many great fights and is one time enough or do you think this is his third or fourth time in the last 3 years? I can forgive Anderson for a couple times and with what was said after his last fight I think he has learned his lesson.
The question here as a fan words or words regardless, but remember Silva can make us forget with a couple good fights were Sonnens insults against somebody that is a hero to many can not be taking back not to mention the fact the money raised to help cure cancer patients raised by Lance regardless if he is something that should be applauded and never insulted like Sonnen has done?
Like I said a bad showing is one thing but an american insulting an american hero that has helped thousands of people is retarded.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I would definitely pick Sonnens comments, but I think Deuce has a point. I said somewhere else(maybe in this thread) that I'm a Silva fan again for this fight. That's not really true, I dislike both fighters, and certainly haven't forgotten that
dreadful Maia fight. Two things about that fight that bothered me: the fact that he wasn’t fighting to finish, and that he was being a disrespectful prick. Sonnen has taken the prick thing to a whole new level, IMO. At first I just thought he was trying too hard, then I saw him go on and on at that terrible reporter and I realized that he’s just a douche that thinks he’s way more funny than he is. He was basically acting like a bully. Then he calls Silva a liar, a fraud, a jerk and a host of other names and has the nerve to say he hasn’t been disrespectful at all. Whatever, they’re grown men, Silva can take care of himself, but I’m personally getting sick of these fighters trying way too hard to sound like they’re king shit. I won’t be rooting for Silva, but I will be rooting for Chael to get his jaw wired.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Where the Money Goes...$325 Million so far
it’s actually over $325 million Chael and if anyone else is interested here’s a link to where the money actually goes.
http://www.livestrong.org/What-We-Do/Our-Approach/Where-the-Money-Goes
what a fucking clown
and some of you people were cheering for this goof?
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i think its more of anti- ando then a pro-chael
at least on my end.
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 3, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
some people yes but...
when some people herd him talking they instanly loved cheal so it must have gotten to his head or somthing and he must think this is going to make him even more popular
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it did make him more popular...
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Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 3, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
At first it was funny, but now this crap....
Going to church doesnt make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car.
maybe he was promised .5% of ppv buy ins
there has to be some sort of reasoning other than missing his meds
"Donuts don't wear alligator shoes" - Black Dynamite
If there in the main event they get a share when the buys go over a certain %
And he can easily be doing this for that exact reason but regardless he still sounds like a douche bag.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Mr. Sonnen didn’t let a little thing like facts get in the way of spewing hot air
The ones who speak out agaisn’t something the loudest are usually guilty of the exact thing they are speaking out agaisn’t. Especially politicians. Hmmm…
I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.
ha ha... what happened there?
I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.
by BNF on Aug 3, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
What a Dick
Cancer is not joke or reason to bash someone. Sonnen is taking it too far with trying to be a bad guy. To mention another man gettting Cancer or giving it to himself is totally out of line. u dont kick anyone while their down. What a fucking dick. I cant wait for Anderson to fucking kill this guy.
The man that doesnt fall, Doesnt Stand
Fuck u Fedor haters
LOL
…I think Sonnen is taking stupidity steroids & giving himself retardation…
Dont pay no mind to Chael
After Saturday no you will want to talk to him anymore… if he will be capable of talking after Saturday is unknown
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by Hardy's in your face on Aug 3, 2010 8:37 PM EDT reply actions
I think Chaels
starting to realize he’s maybe done a little too much talking.
sonnen crossed the line when he starting talking about pot and phelps….who cares if he likes a toke!!!! If I ever saw sonnen with a beer id call him a drunk
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Wow.
I just hope that this doesn’t in some way reflect negatively on the sport as a whole. I don’t know how you talk badly of someone that’s overcome such a killer of a disease.
Enjoy Hell Chael. That cocksucker deserves to go there.
I am not too familiar with what’s going on now with Armstrong, but has he been caught using something illegal?
If I remember correctly he was a serious blood doper
Then got cancer and left his wife.
I realize I’m summarizing over some probably very important stuff here.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Aug 4, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Whatever it may be
the general public sees lance as a hero and an inspiration. the fact that chael is saying all this will only bring negative media to himself and a backlash at the sport and UFC.Look what dana went through for saying “faggot”. now chael mocks a serious life threatening disease that has probably in some way affected everyone in the united states either directly or through friends and family. Dana should have shut him up when he had the chance because now its the UFC that is going to have to hold press conferences to clean up this idiot’s mess
I believe he doped
But i dont give a fuck, cause he brought cycling to the average american fans, and did a lot for cancer awareness.
Going to church doesnt make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car.
How is it that every other cyclist has been caught and Lance hasn’t, even though he’s been tested way more than anyone else? He’s clean, and I will believe he’s clean until someone other than a disgraced cheat and liar or an evidence-planting French journalist offers some hard evidence.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
There's a lot of posts..
Pretty sure there’s a line…and it’s called “cancer”
Either way you swing it, you look like a faggot Chael!
Sonnen now claims he never did an interview with Larry Pepe
and further that he’s never spoken about Lance Armstrong.
So….
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