UFC Quick Quote: Is Michael Bisping 'two wins away' from a title shot?
by Jesse Holland on Aug 3, 2010 11:02 AM EDT
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"If Chael Sonnen comes into the octagon in the right frame of mind, he will give Silva problems. But I can see Silva winning this by submission, because when Sonnen fought Nate Marquardt he was dominant on top, but left himself open at times. I’ll be watching the fight closely, because I believe I am two wins away from fighting for that belt. I think I have seen chinks in [Akiyama's] armor. I’m going to come in very strong, very fit, and I’m going to exploit him by setting a fast pace."
Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 3 champion Michael Bisping tells the Daily Star that he intends to vault himself into the middleweight title hunt with a big win over International star Yoshihiro Akiyama. "The Count" rebounded from a unanimous decision loss to Wanderlei Silva "Down Under" back on February 20 to outwork the venerable Dan Miller and take all three judge's scorecards at UFC 114 last May. Bisping is 3-2 in his last five fights with losses to Silva and Dan Henderson. In addition to Miller, the Brit also stopped Denis Kang at UFC 105 and decisioned Chris Leben way back at UFC 89. Is he "two wins away" from a title shot? Or do we reserve judgment for after the "Sexyama" fight?
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Ummmmmm No he is not.
He is a little farther away from a title shot that that. He needs like 3 more wins. 2 of them being top talent like Nate, Sonnen, etc etc.
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I was actually agreeing with what i was reading about his prediction on silva/sonnen and i was thinking wow he is actually talking sense but then he starts yapping about a title shot with 2 wins and i thought we were back to talking nonsense again but if you think about it, he will probably get a title shot after 2 more wins. Not because he deserves it but just because dana and the rest of the gang seem to be desperate to get bisping a title shot
Please don't ever let Carwin fight Big Nog! It would result in death
Can't decide who I hate more, Penn or Edgar
Correct
Hell Dan hardy got one by totally avoiding any big names, I fully expect Bizzzzbing to get the same silver spoon treatment.
Bisping vs Vitor!?
I don’t know about two wins away but Vitor has been out of action and talks about him fighting next for the belt piss me off as I don’t believe it’s fair for any fighter to be off so long and fight a fighter like Silva. But Vitor should be good enough to at least challenge Bisping as a warm up fight. If Bisping wins put him against Marquardt or Yoshi next.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
No chance!
Vitor wouls absoloutely rape Bizzzzzbing in under two minutes. Dana will have none of that!
But Vitor should be good enough to at least challenge Bisping as a warm up fight.
Puck you have smoked yourself retarded………….
O_o
This guy is SO DELUSIONAL!!!!!
He has NOT beat ONE guy in the top 10 or 15. He gets the EASIEST possible matchups. He is fightign a guy taht is a natural 170 lber and gassses in 2 rounds and Chris Leben subbed. I think Belcher won that fight also.
This guy has been SO protected it makes me SICK. HE needs to beat 2 or 3 guys like Marquardt, Belfort, Belcher, Sonnen, Cote. The UFC has done their BEST to keep him away from the guys taht will beat him. Fucking joke this guy is so arrogant.
haha
im from uk n when bisping first come on the scene i was buzzing i thought we had a champion from england. as time goes by i no he isnt good enough to be a champion at 185 no chance
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by charlie_mma_rules on Aug 3, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
two wins away? This isn't the Middleweight Division circa 2007 there, Mikey.
The only forseeable way for you to get a title shot in 2 wins is as follows.
Anderson has to lose to Sonnen this week. so your outlook depends on that feet of strength.
2. DESTROY Akiyama… like I mean not even close.
3. Beat Anderson Silva in his rebound match.
3. Title shot.
BTW I am just as likley to replace Barack Obama as President before Oct 2010. So ya know… good luck with all that you over rated pompus ass.
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just realized your saying sonnen will beat silva
I am as likely to replace Kim Jong Il by the 7th in North Korea.
by theworldismine on Aug 3, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember Zino Way back when, well at least way back when I was a child
For the first time we could run to Toys R Us and stare at the WWF Belt, a belt made just for us kids so we can imagine what it would be like to be Hulk Hogan or the Macho Man. Now zap ourselves 27 years later and your an over grown, underperforming, delusional Brit who thinks that by scratching Dana’s ass he will get a title shot. Well you know what Mikey your having the same delusions that I had when I was 8 years old, and just like my mama disappointed me by never buying me that belt, your bloody arse will be disappointed when your laying on the canvas counting the lights in the ceiling of the O2 arena.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
Wow. Nice rant.
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by OJR on Aug 3, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
FYI
When I was 7… I was the blocks Intercontinental Champion and one half of the Tag team champs.
We really used to beat the crap out of each other. All of those “dont do this at home” information were built because of my own and others like you… childhoods.
I once gave a guy a power bomb and hurt him pretty badly. That was the end of that.
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bz think about it
cheal sonnan beats dan miller okami and marquardt………………..bisping already has dan miller in his back pocket and if he beat akiyama what is to say he doesnt desurve it? hell vitor got the shot after 1 fight that wasnt at middle weight
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Unfortunately yes he is. Dana's desperate to manufacure his UK posterboy a title shot
Is he deserving of one??? Not a chance. They’ll steer this clown well clear of anyone remotely dangerous, Marquadt, Sonnen, Okami, Belcher, Belfort etc, as a soon as he steps up in class he gets soundly beaten.
He’ll doubtless get a decision over Akiyama by running backwards. Then it’ll likely be a “much anticipated rematch” with Wand (very winnable even for Bizzzzbing), then assuming he’ll get the nod in that employing the same tactics, then that’s three in a row and title shot.
Say what you like about Brits being handed title shots...
But I remember a certain Mr Lesnar having to work his ass off for years to.. oh wait, no he didn’t.
Think A Silvas second fight was a title shot too
BUT Bisping has choked everytime he’s fought real quality competition. He doesn’t believe in himself in the octogon when he really needs too. I dont think he should get a title shot but think he will if he’s keeps winning against top 15 guys
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Aug 4, 2010 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions
irrelevant. he's not going to win two in a row to get there anyways.
And if he does it in boring style he won’t be rewarded with a shot.
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by daniel worby on Aug 3, 2010 11:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Fucking joke this guy is
The UFC is SO DESPERATE to keep him relevant. The 3 times in his 4 year career, they stepped up the competition, he lost…..hell even Hammill beat him when Hammil was as green as they get and Bisping was undefeated and years in the business,
AS for the person that said LEsnar had it easy…AT LEAST Lesnar fights champions and TOP competition. It is SO SICKENING how protected Bisping is
by fightfan on Aug 3, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"chinks" in Akiyama's armor...
poor choice of words there for Bisping.
by HappyLittleTreez on Aug 3, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
lmao
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Can't decide who I hate more, Penn or Edgar
thats a good rec worth quote... OJR is starting a comment of the week sort of thing.
Vote for it it – if you laughed.
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LOL!
Nice catch.
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez
I like Akiyama....BUT
He is s natural 170 lb’er , if not a little smaller taht gasses in 2 rounds. I mean Chris Leben beat him in EVERY aspect…and Bispign beat Leben….so the UFC figures this is a SAFE and winnable fight for Bisping.
Never heard of a guy that lost in last fight getting a headlining gig. Actually I think Belcher beat him too, but that doesnt matter
I HATE THE GD GREEN
Dammit, this isn’t BE. Stop this madness.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
would baby blue be any better.
Oh come on.. were not BE here… so whats a little variety to get throught the dog days of summer.
Im inside when I should be outside. Mania is better than anything my GP can prescribe.
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It's not the color, it just reminds me too much of reading a BE blog and puts me in a bad mood
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
well than good sir... I can totally offer you some assitance.
Stop reading BE blogs.
You won’t be nearly as pissed off when the odd comment turns green here….
and That comment was funny. I thought. Anyway,
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Stupid Push in the UK
for big name fighters to spread the UFC’s brand. Bisping needs to show he can fight tough enough to finish people, not point out decisions againts ok talent. But Dana is pushing things hard in the UK, and unfortunately, Bisping is one of the best they have to offer, so he could get a shot even if we all know he isn’t good enough for one. Give him the shot and let him get destroyed! Then he will be one step closer to being out of the UFC, and one step closer to me not having to hear about him anymore!
yeah he said he was going to win the belt after he lost to Rashad.
Same song and dance it’s always been.
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So let's say he beats Sexy (which I doubt) but let's pretend
That is obviously not enough for a shot. Who does he get? Does Joe throw Jake at him for Jake’s first fight at 185? He has to get by someone who has some sort of elite status, and I just don’t see him beating anyone of that caliber. Dana may try to make an easy road for him, I just don’t see him winning, even then.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
YOu can’t ask Shields to ping pong like that.
Make a run at 170… then a run at 185. Besides Shields would decision Bizzy.
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I agree
I was using Shields as an example of someone who I think Bis would have to beat to even be considered for a shot. I don’t see him getting by anyone of that caliber. I did think that the plan was to get Shields involved in both classes…..But with not too many exciting choices for Georges…
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I don’t know. Admittedly I’m a fan of Bisping and not really of Jake, so I’m probably playing favourites here, but I think Bisping would do well against Jake. He has sound standup (not all that powerful, but technically very good), great takedown defence, and is really good at getting up when he is taken down. As much as you guys may hate him you have to admit that much. I think he would outpoint Shields in the standup all day long, and either stuff his takedowns or get right back up if he is taken down. I think it would be a really good fight for him to take as he doesn’t have to worry about getting blasted unconcious again. That being said, I think Jake is going to stay at WW at least for the next little bit.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Shields would destroy Bizzzzbing
Olympic wrestler Dan Henderson couldn’t stuff his td’s, I dont see Mick being able too consistently. If somehow he could then I agree he’d decision Shields standing, just dont think he’d keep it standing.
Dan is more of a Greco wrestler, thus he didn’t train leg take downs his whole life. I’m sure he’s quite good at it, I’m not saying he’s a slouch, but his strength is the clinch takedown and clinch defence. Also, Dan is getting a little older and doesn’t neccessarily do his best at MW anymore. I’m not saying he’s done, but he has always admitted to hating the cut to MW. Dan looked gassed after he laid that beating on Shields in the first, whereas on of Bispings strengths has always been cardio. I’m not saying he would win, I’m just saying he would have a better chance than most of the haters would like to give him.
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he would win the striking game for sure
and he scrambles well, but Jake would Gayporn him to death IMO.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I think he has a better chance than most people are giving him. If he could get up with Rashad on top of him, I don’t see Shields neccessarily holding down the whole time. I wouldn’t mind watching that fight.
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lets see how he does against Sexy
If he can get past him (anything other than questionable decision), I will give him some more props. He just rubs me the wrong way, and has never done much to make me say wow.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Although Sexy is skilled and has the power to put Bisping away, I see Bisping buying time until Sexy undoubtedly gasses and puts him away. I’m not sure if that should sway your opinion on the guy and make you give him props neccessarily. I want to see Bisping fight a guy who won’t gas, has some power and grappling. That would boost him I think. I like the dude based on his personality mostly, but if he could get past a Shields (I know, no power) or that top tier type fighter then I think he would be put in the upper part of the division.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Not all great strikers KO people. I was saying he had some standup skill. You’re talking as if I think he should be anointed champ right now. I think you are blowing my comments way out of proportion in order to try and make some sort of point.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
AND they NEVER gave him a striekr except for 40 yr old Hendo
They know what kind of fighters to give him so he can win. Fucking joke. They kept him away from the power strikers for his ENTIRE career
maybe
but one of my main issues is- you even admit that Biz can’t take out Sexy when sexy isn’t gassed. His only chance is wearing him down. He is sold by the UFC marketing machine as a flashy fighter, and he is just the opposite. I don’t like the guy based on his personality. Funny.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Spot on deuce
he isn’t flashy in the slightest. he’s the standup equivalent of a wet blanket laynpray wrestler. Just does enough to eek out the win without ever having his opponents in any kind of trouble.
his best fight and the only one that even remotely impressed me was
against Kang. If he can come out looking like that more often, I may change my mind.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Shoot even the Kang fight had me shaking my Head
No so much for Bisping but for Kang wilting under fire again. That was truely sad.
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No trouble????
Out of his 19 wins, he’s only gone to decision 3 friggin times. That means he has finished 16 dudes. How is that just eeking out a decision without getting people in trouble. This post just proves how biased you really are. Next your going to say it was the competition that led to that record, so you can save your breath.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Yeah but how many of those wins and stoppages are over top guys?????
None! His greatest win is over Chris leben and his greatest stoppage, what Elvis Sinosic, Jason Day????
This guy’s a great can crusher but has nothing to offer the top guys. He is the very definition of midcard mediocrity!
I would say his best stoppage was probably Kang. I agree that his best win was probably Leben, or Hamill.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Yeah kang actually
Best win was defo leben because barring you, Bizzzzbing and two blind judges, nobody thought he beat Hammill
Well his record states he won so it’s up there in his best wins. I really don’t give a shit who you think won that fight, it was close and I didn’t lose any sleep over it, but in no way was it a robbery.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
That in no way means I’m wrong. It was a close fight that I have a certain opinion on.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
I know what it means, but that doesn’t make them any more right than me. As long as the judges agreed with me I’m content.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
When did I say he was a world-beater and will be champ? Again, you’re assuming that’s what I think. I like the dude, and watch his fights, and thought he won a close decision. Where in that statement do I say he’s the best thing since the blowjob.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
I don’t really think anything about him in terms of his placement. He hasn’t fought enough of the top guys for me to evaluate that. I like watching his fights, and I like his personality, therefore I like him. He doesn’t have to be champ one day to have me as a fan. I’ll let you in on a little secret, Cote is one of my favourites as well, but I don’t see him making a run at the most consecutive wins record. Only a small percentage of fighters will ever be in that elite category, but all of them think they have what it takes to be there. That type of confidence doesn’t bother me in the least, and all fighters should have it.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
LOL attackdog is off the leash today
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
How can you hate a guy based on what the company tries to do with him. He didn’t tell Zufa to market him as some sort of killer or the saviour of MMA in the UK.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
I don't hate him based on the UFC selling him that way
I think he is a good fighter, and I don’t particularly care for his antics. He comes of as douchy to me.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I usually think he comes off pretty humble and jokes around a bit. If anything, I thought Dan was a way bigger douche on the TUF show. I liked Dan a lot before that show. I guess that’s the magic of editing.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
its funny how that came across one way for me, and another for you
like the whole switching the training times. I thought Mike was a prick. Hendo was just like whatever man, this is what I was told. And the stories I have heard from people who met the guy. Plus his constant shit talking, he always seems to have an excuse. Seems like a pouter who needs a nap. But, then again, what the hell do I know. BJ is my favorite fighter.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I thought Hendo was being a dick about the times. It was agreed that they would switch and he wouldn’t cause he wanted to sleep in. Sounds pretty shitty to me. I don’t think he shit talks at all, maybe I’m missing something. Show me a fighter who isn’t confident they will win. If they don’t think they have a chance, they shouldn’t accept the fight.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
I dont mind trash talk and confidence as long as its backed up
The problem mick has is he talks sooooooooooo much shit, not even GSP, Anderson Silva and Brock lesnar combined could back it up!!!
wait
didn’t Hendo’s team want to switch to a later time and Bizz act like a prick about it? Said they should do a challenge for it or something and Dan said, uh, no, we were told we would half the season at one time and the other half at another. Am I remembering this wrong?
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I think you are wrong, but who knows now, it’s been quite a while.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
I just looked it up
99% sure you are remembering this wrong.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
My idol??? Again, blowing things out of proportion to make it sound like I’m some sort of hugger. Did you not read where I said who knows, it’s been quite a while?
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
So you're not a Bizzzzbing nuthugger????
Jesus christ I’d love to see you defend someone whose nuts you did swing from, that would be something lol
If I were British, I could see you thinking that I’m doing this for some sort of National pride or something (you’ve chosen the other route a Brit could go and hate him), but I’m Canadian and therefore his nationality has nothing to do with it. You didn’t mention it, but I thought I would tell you that anyways. I would probably be much less cordial if I were a nuthugger, like I am with GSP.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
It was someone else down below, so I thought I would address it here. I probably shouldn’t have considering how skinny the thread is already getting. I agree though about GSP…now those are some nuts to swing from.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Lol right
You have the opposite problem to me then. Those who dont know me assume I’m an American coz of my Bizzzzbing hatred, whereas people who dont know you assume your British coz of your love of him.
You will have to forgive attackdog
He is a bit rabid today. The scent of delusional British liars sets him off.
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I think you have the story write but the context wrong about the time switch. Hendo wanted a certain time slot and they were supposed to switch all along, but Hendo wanted to keep it consistent so they did. At the end when everyone was used to their training schedule he wanted to change it even though he was the one in the first place who wanted them to not switch at all. I can see why Bisping would be pissed at that.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Wait for it wait for it; Damn Canadians. : )
Call me up when you all go on strike again. Just playin; I was hoping you were British then all this ranting would mean something, now it kind of feels empty.
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Nice South Park Ref.
We do have flapping heads and beady eyes, that much is true.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
and a very strange
horizontal line that runs right through your mouth all the way across your head. I am concerned Canadians. I am very concerned.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Bisping has no punching power and his grappling skills are purely defensive
There’s no chance that he can defend Jakes takedowns or get back to his feet from his back, Jake is a master at taking people down and controlling them. If Hendo can’t cope with Jakes grappling then there’s no way that a way inferior grappler in Bisping can and having decent technique but no power hardly makes him a threat to Jake standing either.
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by David W-S on Aug 3, 2010 12:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Deuce of course they wont give him anyone remotely decent
This is my point. Dana knows he’s shit and will get soundly beaten by anyone decent, that’s why he’ll get either wand or leben after Akiyama. Then Dana can hype him as being “the form guy” “three wins on the trot” etc and avoid giving him anyone good. Trust me this will happen.
I can see that
but I don’t see him getting by Sexy, or Wand for that matter. If that first fight with Wand had been 5 seconds longer, he would have been TKO’d.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
He'll defo get past sexi
Bizzzzy might lose the first when akiyama’s fresh but he’ll start gassing midway through the second and Mick can back peddle away for the win.
I see Mick having a similar fight with Wand to the first but with the judges giving him the verdict this time.
I don't have that kind of faith in him
He is going to get tossed around. You never know with the judges (which is where this is going), but, I think Sexy takes it.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I actually see Mikes wrestling being the difference
by theworldismine on Aug 3, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
he is definitely going to need it
I just have to think that Sexy is going to come in a little better prepared to go three rounds than he did with Leben. If not, then Mike has a better chance.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Hmmm...
Maybe. If he impresses against Akiyama, and then goes on to beat, say, Okami or the Nate/Palhares winner, then I could see him getting a shot.
I think it all depends how the rest of the Division plays out over the next couple of fights though. It’s a bit up in the air with Maia being benched and Belcher being injured. There’s no one for Okami to fight at the moment (well, Leben maybe), and Nate is just coming off a No.1 Contendership fight. In addition, exactly how far away would Palhares be if he beats Nate?
Tricky stuff.
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez
I think he'll beat Akiyama,
and then if he can somehow beat a guy like Marquardt, Okami or Belcher he should get the contender shot. I see the MW division in order this way:
1. AS
2. Chael Sonnen ( soon to drop )
3. Yushin Okami
4. Alan Belcher
5. Nate Marquardt
6. Vitor Belfort
7. Mike Bisping.
So he def needs a couple big wins.
I know rankings are very subjective, but how did you arrive at yours? How did Belcher get so high on the list, same with Vitor (never fought at 185 in the UFC, and hasn’t fought at 185 since January 2009)? Vitor has only fought at MW twice (Lindland and Terry Martin). I’m not bagging on you, I’m just wondering how you came up with these, unless it’s how you see the UFC ranking their own fighters.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
No offense taken, and I actually agree about Vitor;
I just placed him there due to the UFC’s status with him being a contender and all- in fact lets bump him down to 8th and put Leben in at 7th ( Bizz dropping to 6th ). A short breakdown of my own irrelevant rankings: Anderson is obvious, as is Chael Sonnen. Yushin Okami I place third due to his competition and his record. I like Belchers momentum (which has now halted), so I regard him higher than Nate right now, who just lost badly to Chael. In skill level and records, Nate should be higher than Alan. So now we come to Michael Bisping: although his losses are much less memorable than his defeats, it must be considered who he lost to- Dan Henderson, Rashad Evans, and Wanderlei Silva. His losses against both Shad and Wand were far from decisive as well. His record stands at 20-3 (?), which is awesome, so if he should beat 2 more top guys I consider it fair. Leben gets 7th due to once again, momentum, and Vitor gets 8th fairly, though he is much higher in the UFCs eyes.
by theworldismine on Aug 3, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
although I think he’d give Marquardt Okami and Belcher great fights.
Bisping can win some of the top guys. he already did in Evans and Wandy but got robbed
Bisping's opponents RIP
have to agree with Rashad,
Wandy definitely could have gone Bispings way on points too, although I saw why Wand got it.
by theworldismine on Aug 3, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
funny. Those were not robberies
Bizz has been involved in some though….particularly the Hamill fight. Pretty sure that won the latest poll too!
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
True Deuce
Neither rashad or Wand were robberies, he clearly lost both, especially the Wand fight where he was seconds from being stopped in each round.
Only Bisping ad his fans had him beating Rashad and Wand
Wand-Bisping especially was a clear cut 29-28 victory to Wand, I don’t see how anyone can argue otherwise. Just because Bisping whines everytime that he loses a decision doesn’t mean that he was robbed, he’s as bad a loser as Tito.
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by David W-S on Aug 3, 2010 12:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn’t call any of the fights robberies (including the Hamill fight). They were all very close fights, which is not a robbery. I thought he won all three actually, I was a little suprised he didn’t get the W in the Rashad fight, but not that suprised in the Wand fight. To call them robberies insinuates that they weren’t even close.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
You sir need to take off those Bizzzzzbing tinted lenses
Not even Bizzzzzbings own mother thought he won the Hammill fight.
OJR approved. ^^^
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I thought he did at the time and still do. You’re acting like it was a beatdown for three rounds, when in fact it was a close fight. I think out of the two of us, you biased attitude against Bisping affects your opinion more than mine.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
It was kinda a close fight
as in 29-28 for Hamill. When I watched that fight, I really didn’t have too much of an opinion of either of those guys. I am certainly more biased now though.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
LMAO - that was the easiest 29-29 fight to call in history. no way did bizzzzzbing win more than a round.
By your logic I suppose Dan Hardy did enough to earn the win over GSP too???
I wouldn’t say I was particularly biased, I’ve said how I believe he’ll beat Akiyama and get a title shot. What I do object to is the UFC selling us a pup with Bizzzzzbing and building him up to be some superstar striking machine world beater, when anyone with a shred of knowledge can see he aint anything more than a mid carder/gatekeeper.
No, that is not my logic. That was a clear cut decision (5 rounds to 0 for GSP). That fight wasn’t even close. The Bisping/Hamill fight was in fact much much closer and could have gone either way. Like I said, I had him winning, I didn’t think too much of it when he didn’t, therefore I don’t think it was a robbery like most of you Bisping haters would like to think.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
I wasn't a hater when I watched it the first time, and I was definitely shaking my head when it was announced
There aren’t a lot of completely ridiculous decisions out there (lots of examples of one judge getting it horribly, horribly wrong- I am talking to you Cecil), but that Hamill fight has to go down as one of the worst examples. 7 out of 10 maniacs agree. But, we are all entitled to our opinion.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
COME ON . . . PLEASE KILL THAT
- Evans fight? Possibly a draw. Did he get robbed because he lost via decision, nah . . not at all. It’s not like he dominated the fight from the opening bell to the end.
- Wanderlei fight? HUH?!?
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VEe is ANIMated!
by VeeisAnimated on Aug 3, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
You Right: he almost went to sleep in the WANDY fight twice once>
by the guillatine (When the bell rang you hear him say "Did I go out?) and the other by a left. If only Wandy had been able to soccer kick him out of the UFC.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
wasn't it a right, to the neck?
and you are right, when Biz went down, Wandy was so ready for a soccer kick to the head, you could see him pick his leg up and then realize he wasn’t in Pride.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I'm dislexic my left is your right. : )
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
so then by my calculations
it was actually a right foot that ended things.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Only if it was his left but if it was his right then it would really be his left.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
No matter what he says or does
He will always be Hendos bitch.
Its permanent, like prison rape.
by Lester The Pimp on Aug 3, 2010 12:23 PM EDT reply actions
bisping 2 wins from title shot
Whatever…I would love to see anderson smash his face, if he is still champ anyway
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by salamagogo on Aug 3, 2010 12:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Not sure
I’m not sure why all the hate on bisping and his abilities?! He’s only ever been soundly beaten once, against dan. Other than that he’s fought some very tough guys, wandi, rashad, hammill, leben…I’m not saying he has shown enough yet to deserve a title shot but a couple of convincing wins against such guys has to put him in the picture!! I think he has shown a very well rounded fighting game and clearly understands the need to evolve! It’s not like he’s demanding a title shot, simply stating he should be in the picture which he will be!!
by the real mo on Aug 3, 2010 1:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I've really
Warmed up to bisping, everybody seems to hate him cuz he has this doucheness to his personality but as a fighter you kinda have to have that cockiness, and as of recently he seems to have been more humble.
I also feel like he’s evolving, I really liked the way he fought vs Kang, and I think he’s shown a ton of improvement from his fight vs hendo. I don’t think he’s top 5 yet but I think if he keeps it up he can def get there and I like him vs sexy.
by FyodorrE on Aug 3, 2010 2:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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