Dana White: 'Kenny Florian chokes in big fights'
by James Kimball on Aug 29, 2010 4:07 PM EDT
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Props: UFC 118 post-fight press conference (via MMA Fighting)
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"I hate to say this because I don't want to take anything away from Gray Maynard, but I think Kenny is just one of those guys who chokes in big fights. I'm not bad-mouthing him or trying to disrespect him; I'm just being honest. Every time it's a big fight and there's a lot of things on the line, Kenny just, Kenny's hands are unbelievable. Kenny's ground is unbelievable. Kenny usually kicks guys to the body and legs so hard that he busts guys up. You didn't see any of that tonight. He stood there and stared at Gray Maynard for three rounds... You'd think his corner would say, 'Dude, you just lost the first two rounds.' No sense of urgency in the third round.' Not saying, 'I need a knockout or submission in this round.' None of it. Nothing. And I guarantee you if Kenny comes back and fights one of the mid-level guys, he'll probably run through them like a f---ing freight train. But the big fights? He crumbles, man... I love Kenny Florian, I've known him since season one of The Ultimate Fighter. He's one of the best fighters in the world, but in the big fights, he chokes in the big fights. He's here in his hometown, another shot at the title and he sits in front of Gray Maynard for three rounds. He couldn't let anything go. Gray Maynard fought his fight, did what he wanted to do, and dominated him tonight."
Some pretty strong words from UFC President Dana White on Kenny Florian's not-so-impressive performance last night at UFC 118 against Gray Maynard. No one likes to be known for not being able to produce in big spots, regardless of the job. While Florian's unanimous decision loss in his hometown of Boston to Gray may be more attributed to "The Bully's" dominant wrestling style than Kenny's nerves playing a role, an argument can be made that "KenFlo" just wasn't himself last night, and usually isn't when the stakes are at their highest. Anybody buying this theory that D.W. is selling? Or, was it just a bad style match up for Florian? Who thinks that Kenny will one day fight for the title again?
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I don't think he chokes..
I just don’t think he could deal with the wrestling and Bj just kicked his ass when they fought because he copied GSP.
Triangles don't dodge Fedor.
Agreed.
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Agreed again.
Guys like Sherk and Maynard are just bad match-ups for him stylistically, while his game plan for GSP was just bad.
I have to agree
Kenny chokes against good wrestlers, that is why I couldn’t believe how easy he beat Guida
Arm.bar.bandit saw me slow dancing with Anderson Silva. I had my hands on his ass.
Guida doesnt threaten on the feet
Grey actually has good boxing and foot work
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I really like Kenflo, but he needs to improve his upper body strength.
I know he likes to keep his hellbows sharp, but those pillow punches do not cause enough damage. The wrestlers are just too powerful for him. If he bulks up, his weight cut will be tougher. However, he will never be a champion with those scarecrow arms.
This ^^^
I have to agree with gurverbob – Kenny doesn’t necessarily choke so much as he can’t power wrestlers (yes, Gomi has a wrestling base, but he doesn’t use it the way Sherk and Grey do.
And as far as BJ is concerned… well, he lost because it’s BJ.
And BJ lost because Frankie isn’t a power-wrestler, but a guy who boxes like Floyd Mayweather Jr. and who’s wrestling game is based more around speed and catching BJ off balance.
A lot of this boils down to style match-ups.
Yes, he most certainly does.
Frankie’s stand-up in both of the BJ fights was to fight stay outside BJ’s range and kill him with speed (not power). That’s pretty much how Floyd boxes – he fights according to a safe game plan, minimizing risk, and using footwork and speed to outwork and outpoint his opponents.
I’m not comparing skill level or specifics, just style.
Frankie's still got a lot to improve on in his standup game.
He is overactive in the first rounds and he got caught many times by BJ when he came in, he also threw a lot of punches in the air in the first 2 rounds.
BJ’s style of counter punching simply didn’t work in a fight over 5 rounds.
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Floyd doesnt use game plans
He adjusts in the moment and instead of hoping around like a bunny rabbit he shoulder rolls stands in front of you and makes you miss.Big difference
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In the gameplan,safety first sense,maybe but his actual style is nothing like Floyd’s.
Mayweather is a defensive master who uses shoulder rolls and counter punches to win fights.Edgar is more attack minded.
I just don’t see much similarity.
The safety first thing you could compare to many boxers,like Bernard Hopkins for example.
Mayweather does not outwork his opponents at all.He makes them make the first move and then he counters that.
I don’t think you follow boxing that much to make a statement like this.Maybe you just saw Floyd in the Marquez fight where he had a masive size advantage and could be more aggressive.
I don’t agree very much a t all with your original statement and i have been following boxing and MMA long enough to know what i am talking about.
I have said many times that it was his lack of strength lost him the Sherk fight.
He was the better fighter in that match but it was Sherks strength and power that won it for him. I said if doesnt increase his strength, Sherk would nearly always get the better of him (that is if Sherks doesnt try to box). I was actually waiting to see if Kenny had put on any more muscle mass when he took his top off against Maynard, when I saw he looked exactly the same as he always does, the end result of that fight did not surprise me at all. He could fight Maynard and Sherk at any point, and that outcome would happen more times than not. It is not skill that Kenny lacks and it has nothing to do with choking, their strength and power are just too much for him to be able stop them taking the fight to the ground taking the win.
All right, I'll jump on this bandwagon
I still think he could have been more aggressive last night and attack Maynard’s legs. I know that puts him at risk of being taken down but it could have also neutralized Maynard’s movement/ takedowns. Guess we won’t know until he fights another wrestler.
by PetrozellisJab on Aug 29, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree
and i dont want to take away from maynard because he forced his game plan. to me it seems that kenny lost that fight more than gray won it. kenny didnt even try anything, he did just stand there for the most part.
well said
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by Thats It For you! on Aug 29, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Truth...He needed to pull out "Magnum"
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by Red Eye Jedi on Aug 29, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
bad stylisctic matchup.
Kenny’s only real weakness is that he’s physically weak and it shows when he’s fighting big strong disciplined wrestlers.
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Kinda like AS.
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Except Anderson constantly attacks
Whilst Kenny was completely neutralised by Sherk and Maynard on the mat and was static on the feet, Andy kept looking for the finish standing against Hendo and Sonnen and ultimately found his opening, dropping both men and choking them out when he got the chance. He actually had something to offer off his back and never gave up looking for the finish unlike Kenny who did give up and lost himself the fight. That’s the difference between a good fighter and a champion.
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by David W-S on Aug 29, 2010 4:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol David your delusions about Silva continue, I see. Silva did nothing off his back for 4-1/2 rounds. In fact he was barely controlling Sonnen’s posture at all and was basically taking full wind-up shots, offering no resistance and being rather ineffective at looking for submissions despite ample opportunities Sonnen was allowing him. any good wrestler who’s not so reckless from within the guard will expose him for the p4p most overrated fighter like i’ve been saying long before the Sonnen fight. His last fight also proved my point that a fight btwn Silva and GSP wouldn;t be competetive, another view i got flamed for, previously.
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Rogan: uh...yeah.
In fact he was barely controlling Sonnen’s posture at all and was basically taking full wind-up shots, offering no resistance and being rather ineffective at looking for submissions despite ample opportunities Sonnen was allowing him
yea and was STILL able to tap sonnen’s little bitch ass out…cause thats how good silva is…he can take 300 punches and elbows and STILL make someone say “i give up, im a bitch, i cant take this pain, you are way too good for me…you mounted 4 seconds of offense and you are TOO good for me”
silva only needed 4 seconds and was able to cancel out 4 and a half minutes of being dominated…cause thats how fucking good he is
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by HellaHectic on Aug 29, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It truly amazes me how far Silva fans will go to spin what happened at UFC 117, Silva got his ass beat and threw up a hail mary submission. He got his ass beat and dominated like never before it’s no wonder his fans don’t want a rematch because next time Sonnen will finish what he started and all the spin and bullshit won’t change that he lost to a trash talking republican.
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by Nightwhistler on Aug 30, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny how his hatred act like he lost
And they ignore the knockdown in the fourth. Anyway Andy got outclassed for most of the fight but at the start of each round he attacked looking for the finish, which allowed him to land some strikes but also led to him making mistakes like the slip in the fifth and gave Sonnen the openings he needed to get the takedown or reversal. Anyway my point was that Silva looked for his chance to submit Sonnen and succeeded despite being beaten up and losing every round. In comparison Kenny just stood still waiting to be taken down and did nothing off his back. Bad comparison and really just an excuse to take another cheap shot at a great champion over a bad but winning performance.
And I hate instant rematches anyway and I only want to see them happen when there is a bad stoppage or decision that decides the fight, neither of which happened in Silva-Sonnen.
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by David W-S on Aug 30, 2010 12:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Great post Hella!
Anderson Silva is by far the number one P4P king!!! Even when he is losing a fight he still comes back and finishes for the win! GSP dominates the whole fight and still can't finish! LOL
Kenny relied on his BJ
kenny should be working harder on his wrestling, add 5lbs of muscle in arms n chest along with constantly attempt to stand quickly…. I think D. White’s comment is way off the mark…. Kenny cant handle a top notch mma fighter n wrestler as in Greg Maynard or shawn sherk.
I agree with Dana (Crazy i know)
Kenny is definitely the better fighter by far but he seems to forget how to do his thing once he gets put into big fights. Did not see any of those vicious elbows from the bottom nor did we see any of that striking or his JJ. Maynard litterly is better at one thing wrestling thats it hopefully Kenny can get his shit together losing to Maynard is sad.(diaz who has to starve himself to make 155 whooped maynards ass Florian shouldnt have had any problems)
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Can't agree with Dana or Khaos
Diaz whooped Maynard when he was a wrestler with subpar striking and bad BJ defense…. wrestlers will dominate the next couple of years; Strikers will work on their wrestling and eventually come on top again…. seems to be a cycle that rotates every few yrs or so.. Kenny has to work on his takedown defense and escaping,
"Kenny is just one of those guys who chokes in big fights."
That’s just not cool Dana.
Yes, Kenny didn’t look good, but to say “he’s one of those guys…” is putting him in a class of underachievers. Kenny’s got immense talent, and he’s very well capable of getting that belt. He’s not the same guy who fought Sherk, we all know that, its night and day. Kenny’s only loss since then is against BJ Penn…and now Maynard.
I just think its not cool of Dana to say that about Florian. He fights good competition and finishes them. He was the favourite in this fight and had a bad night. He’ll come back stronger.
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Dana though Phillipe Nover was the next GSP and Chuck picked a bad team on TUF…. Kenny has lost to only champions and probably the next new champion in Maynard. Kenny’s fought the toughest that weight class has had to offer,,, not an accurate assessment imo. Only the number #1 n 2 guys in the world at that weight.
Gray raped that kid just like I said he would exceptional standup and strong wrestling
Poses serious problems for Ken Flo everytime.
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I thought Kenny would win, I will be the first to admit..
But I always pick the guys I want to win not the guys who I think will win(So my pick won). Kenny is a great fighter and technique wish he is flawless, But his body just isn’t strong and we all seen that a great wrestler can beat an amazing fighter any night(Sonnen)
Triangles don't dodge Fedor.
No shame in that
Ive cheered for Diego for the past two fights and i came up short to.But this was hard fight to call,i leaned toward Gray a little more because of the problems Kenny had with Sherk a while ago and the footwork that Gray has,its hard to land clean on him.He out boxed Frankie on the feet to.
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except that Sonnen lost. I know, I know, he was owning Anderson. I’m not picking on your point by any means, more so pointing to the fact that Kenny had the opportunity to submit Gray too. I know nothing of Gray’s sub-defense, and he likely has more a physical advantage over Kenny than Sonnen does over Anderson, but that’s the point of Jiu-Jitsu.
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I was refering to him beating..
Okami and nate, Those fights he was considered outmatched..
Triangles don't dodge Fedor.
But thats missing my point completely..
I’m saying a great wrestler can beat a guy thats good at everything, CAN..
Triangles don't dodge Fedor.
meh. It’s hard to do anything if the guy sits chest on chest in guard. Sonnen was subbed because he’s so ridiculously active/aggressive from the guard and therefore leaves a lot of holds. There’s really no way for Florian to submit Gray in this scenario.
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I also thought Kenny would win...
Despite looking at his previous loss to another power wrestler(Sherk), I thought he would have improved his TDD or his BJJ enough to neutralize Gray’s takedowns or top game.
I gave Kenny the first round
2 out of the 3 judges gave the 1st to Gray, but Kenny was the agressor and controlled the octagon. he got taken down late, but Gray didnt do much, from what i remember. this just goes to show how takedowns are given too much credit. I scored it 29-28 Gray.
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That's what I thought too
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scoring for takedown needs to be adjusted
Honestly after the first round I thought he was just to scared that a single takedown would flop the decision over to Maynards favor(which happened in the first for two of the judges) and he became way to passive. Honestly a takedown that results in no strikes or improve position and ends with both people standing back up is really a draw or in favor of the guy that forced the action back to the feet.. A take down is a setup for more, just like a jab is a setup for more. But a single jab can’t throw a round in someones favor.
Kenflo VS BJ Penn
would be a sweet rematch
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it would put danas theory to the test for sure. This fight will be much less pressuer for kenflo now that bj isint champ on a 2 fight losing skid
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by Thats It For you! on Aug 29, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i think if kenflo would win that fight
Bj is defenitly considering to retire (wich eventhough im not a fan of the chubby hawaian i still like to see him fight)
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by robinhorobson on Aug 29, 2010 5:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t think he chokes, so much as that his losses in big match-ups have been stylistically bad for him. It’s now clear from this fight with that he has problems dealing with strong wrestlers, like his match-up with Sherk. And he had a horrible gameplan in his fight with BJ where it looked like he was trying to duplicate the kind of ground and pound GSP had used against him, when it’s apparent Kenny just isn’t that kind of fighter that can dominate someone on the ground.
If anyone thinks Gray layed and prayed the whole time in this fight
Just take a good look at the pic Mr.Kimball posted at the top.Kenny looks like hes getting beat by his step brother for being the favorite.
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The worst thing about this card
Is that now Gray is going to take the belt from Frankie in another 5 round decision.
And we’ll have that douche bag as the 155 champ, until BJ comes back and takes it from him, then we’ll have a love triangle and the LW belt will be like the LHW belt trading hands every 3 months.
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Pain don't hurt...
KenFlo does choke.
Because he comes to fight and is really confused when he gets dry humped against the cage for three rounds because Gray ‘Pillow’ Maynard sucks balls and can’t fight.
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I mean Gray Blanket Maynard. I was thinking of Chael Sonnens hands.
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When your the number one contender..
I think that means you can fight, Maybe you got him mixed with kyle, man that was cold..
Triangles don't dodge Fedor.
No, He can't fight.
The guy does not fight, he lays on you. and waits for the bell. He is on a 7 fight DECISION streak. Before that the dumbass knocked himself out and got a fluke KO.
If they weren’t wearing shorts it would look like KINDA rough butt sex.
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That was funny when you brought up him knocking himself out, since you cracked me up I’m gonna give you it..
Triangles don't dodge Fedor.
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Double whammy
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Another reason Maynard pisses me off...
Why in the blue hell does he have a tramp stamp? faaag.
I’m making a union of hate against Jon Fitch and Gray Maynard. anyone in?
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I'm in.
Lentz also pissed me off with his grapple, grapple and grapple with no fucking punches ever thrown!
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Ya, Lentz was pretty bad too.. But he isn't a top contender. I'll be pissed when people start to think HES good.
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That was my game,but be honest bro you just dont like wrestlers period,screw Maynard and Fitch.
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I get a hard on watching Brock and he's a wrestler.
But he actually finishes fights and goes for the W.
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meh if he were the same size as gray he def wouldn’;t be finishing fights the way he has. Besides he hasn’t had that many fights and so really you can’t say he’s that much of a finisher, not to mention HWs are generally less skilled and easier to finish,
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Normally the small sample size of fight results
to start a career would be pretty meaningful in assessing whether or not a fighter (especially a wrestler) will be a finisher at the highest levels.
But Brock basically started his career at the top of the game and he still has a finish ratio of 4/5 for his wins (finished Kim in a squash match, finished Mir in rematch of a fight he was on his way to finishing anyways, finished Couture and finished Carwin. Only victory he’s failed to finish in was Herring, which was proving a few points in the process).
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by misterjonez on Aug 30, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, judges & refs suck when it comes to wrestlers...
Lentz got the decision but Winner’s TD defence was actually better than Lentz’s wrestling for most of the match – but that’s not rewarded by judges and the ref never separates a cuddler for some reason. Winner landed the only real strikes too. Wrestlers get far too much credit for doing nothing – I’m a Brit with no wrestling background, 5’7" and 200lb (stocky but about 30lb overweight), I tried wreslting people at my MMA class with no intention of striking last week and if you hold onto them there’s basically very little they can do – great but it’s not fighting.
after the first round kenny was scared to fight b/c of maynards takedowns. i could tell.
i had money on forian too. i was not expecting him to be scared. he had 18 seconds in last round to land just one clean shot at maynards face when he was backpedalling(maynard). he could not even accomplish that. pitifull.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 29, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
That was kinda lame..
How Grey was running in the last seconds, Wish he grew some balls and layed it on the line, but he did everything right and I give him credit..
Triangles don't dodge Fedor.
maynard gets the win and i don't blame him for that and now gets title shot.
if soonen was smart he would have done the andy dance to cruise to victory. i guess white republicans can’t dance.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 29, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I got Edgar winning the rematch with Maynard.
I know it won’t be the same but Penn had a hard time taking Edgar down and when he did he had an even tougher time keeping him down. Frankie is like a fucking cat and dude has stamina for days going 5 rounds twice now, might be an advantage against Maynard who has never gone 5.
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not sure who i will be taking but edgar has this herky jerky motion that is hard to connect on
he made penn loo like an old man and i had penn winning. maynard might actually be the favorite and i doubt that anybody who has held a belt has been a dog twice in a row. i might be wrong but somebody show me who?
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 29, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
People always bitch about MMA fighters'
head movement being shit compared to boxers. The truth is, you can’t implement the majority of boxing head movement in MMA because it’s predicated on keeping your feet in one place.
Edgar might have the best head movement in MMA, since he doesn’t create takedown weaknesses when he uses it, and it’s obviously enough to stifle one of the best counterstrikers in MMA history.
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i agree with you. it's his head movement that is tricky.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 29, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i picked penn to win. he did not.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 29, 2010 8:20 PM EDT reply actions
If someone had a parlay on Toney, Edgar, and Maynard they must be SUPER pissed at Toney for being a total shit stain.
That was big bucks lost because of Toney.
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by David W-S on Aug 30, 2010 12:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
kenny is sad panda now
lol @ countdown when kenny is like “all of a sudden gray has a set of balls”
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i agree with Dana. I had picked kenny to win but i think he should have thrown more kicks and when he does get taken down he should use that black belt of his and be aggressive off his back.
BUt nope
none of either
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Dana's trying to psyche up Kenflo
Seriously, this is Dana’s way of telling Kenny “Dude, you really sucked tonight, so you really need to shape up!”
Dana’s shown that he can manage his fighters very well, and he (and pretty much everyone else) knows that Florian can do better. He’ll try to motivate him in this way over and over so that we can see the best Kenny Florian in every fight he appears in. More exciting fights, more business for the UFC.
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he got finished by BJ Penn, and had sean sherk take him down over 5 rounds.
i don’t call that choking.
besides, gray controlled what? 5-6 minutes total of that fight? 1st round one takedown that took 90 seconds to get finally near the end of the round, no damage done whatsoever, the 2nd round, and 3rd round again, basically a takedown and some top position if that.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Aug 30, 2010 11:14 AM EDT reply actions
and as long as judges reward that….we’ll have guys like gray Maynard leg humping to decisions and thinking they’re the baddest LW on the planet.
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on Aug 30, 2010 11:14 AM EDT reply actions
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