UFC Quick Quote: Randy Couture breaks down the gameplan he used to dominate James Toney
by maskedmadman on Aug 29, 2010 1:45 AM EDT
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"It went exactly according to plan which is a rarity in our sport. I was pretty happy to see it go that way... Range was a big factor, especially against a guy with the striking skills James has. You don't see too many guys shoot a low single in mixed martial arts. And I knew the low single would work and make it difficult for him to counter punch me or catch me coming in. I got the mount position and he didn't have any idea how to get out of the mount. I had the choke once and he was propped up against the fence. I had to adjust and let him off the hook, but he gave it to me again."
Randy Couture tells ESPN's MMA Live that he intended to throw more leg kicks but the wrestling instincts kicked in and he took it to the mat. Many MMA fans were calling it a triumph over the sport of boxing, but at the end of the day it was just a fight. Toney never had a chance to bring his boxing skills to the forefront as Couture took him immediately to the ground and tapped him out with an arm triangle. Did Couture strike a blow for the sport over boxing? Or was it just two old men scrapping in a cage? You decide, Maniacs.
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Lol a gameplan?
A high school wrestler would have put up a better fight.
Couture is embarrassing MMA.....
i loved the way he reacted after he won like he beat Lesnar or something………
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 29, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Fuck - I'd thought I'd be the first
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
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Duz any1 remeber bad news brown from the WWF??
Lol. That’s who I thot was coming out 2 fight Randy =D
by d*locc on Aug 29, 2010 2:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Bad News Brown was the shit!
James Toney is just shit
by post-it note on Aug 29, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL. Rec'd!
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by The Negation on Aug 29, 2010 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions
mmmwuaaa hahahahaha figh
No shocker! Captain amerting sport of mma extends what the boxing moica proves what we all knew, the refined mma style trumps boxing. A sad revelation, but true none theless.
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Too much beer for you Greenbeard. Sleep it off!
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by The Negation on Aug 29, 2010 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Why did he celebrate like he won against a contender. Randy beat a washed up Boxer who never fought mma in his life… Put him against Bones Jones.
You guys are never happy..
You tell Randy to kick Toney’s ass before the fight and right after he does you complain and say he beat no one, Fuck off dude..
Triangles don't dodge Fedor.
You might wanna..
Disregaurd the F off part it was uncalled for but think about the other stuff I said..
Triangles don't dodge Fedor.
Easy bob, he a hater, that's all...
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by The Negation on Aug 29, 2010 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly! There never pleased!
Never tell your problems to anyone...20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them.
by Jamie The Peach Hunter on Aug 29, 2010 6:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think they want Couture to end his career that way
They’ll keep feeding Captain America cream puff fighters until Sly needs him for Expendables 2
That celebration was almost sad. One should not be that proud to be able to defeat James Toney.
by post-it note on Aug 29, 2010 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions
So
Should he have lost on purpose just to please raging fanboys who are never happy?
Triangles don't dodge Fedor.
i think he celebrated cus like many said it was more like he did it for mma or the ufc, id be happy too
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by Phenomenal Angel on Aug 29, 2010 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions
He was the lopsided heavy favorite against a washed up boxer's first career MMA fight
Happy, yes. But come on. He acted like it was an upset. It was never close and never really about MMA vs Boxing. Not in this case with these two at their ages, especially when one is in peak physical form while the other is a fat lard who can’t even cut weight in his own sport.
by post-it note on Aug 29, 2010 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions
He just represented the sport of MMA
against a guy who was trash talking everyone involved in it. Saying all the fighters hit like girls etc. He did not run his mouth before the fight nor after. He represented MMA as a martial artist would, with confidence and class.
Having thousands of posts on a MMA site does not make you an expert, training martial arts, wrestling or boxing makes you an expert.
As expected if Randy wanted to win James had a zero %chance to win
Sad sad so sad Toney can now go tell everyone that hes the best leading up to his next boxing match lol ‘im the best’ pretty much all he said over and over!
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
2 totally different SPORTS!
First off,im a huge boxing fan and always will be my first love lol but i do enjoy MMA aswell.MMA didn’t beat boxing,an MMA Veteran and ex-champ beat an aging boxing world champion in the OCTAGON! What do you think would happen if the same two fighters would fight in a boxing ring under the marquis of queensbury rules,simple Toney wins! It’s show business people,UFC was pretty lackluster but Dana knew a boxing vs mma headliner would sell tickets,simpe as that,it all = $$$ Put Brock in with Klitschko and the same thing would happen= Brock submits Klitschko in MMA Klitschko KO’s Brock in Boxing! :P
I want the hand and foot speed of Muhammad Ali,the tenacity of Rocky Marciano and the brute strength of Brock Lesnar,mixed in with the conditioning of Sugar Ray Leonard and the heart of Mickey Ward! Who could beat me?
true
But, to answer the question is mma better than boxing? in theory if you took mayweather and cloned him and taught mayweather2 how to box and fight with mma skills, who would win?
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
by Jrandolph on Aug 29, 2010 10:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But you're forgetting one thing
The whole “put them in a boxing ring” argument does not work. The fact is, Toney was ALLOWED to use his boxing. He could do everything that is allowed under MOQ rules, so it was his full skill set vs. Randy’s full skill set. That is a much more legitimate test than artificially taking away over half of one guy’s techniques.
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That's the main reason MMA will never have a Long Time Champ :P
There ARE too many ways to lose in MMA,boxing doesn’t use tackles,subs,kicks,elbows,etc! Two guys who stand and trade back and forth and keep the fight standing and exchanging is way more exciting than 2 guys rolling around 69’n each other lol imho! :) I nearly fell asleep watching the Sonnen fite last nite!I have followed all the ufc events,from the early days with no gloves and no real rules up until today! And theres no UFC fights that have had me on the edge of my seat,smilingfrom ear to ear after a great back and forth war,like Vasquez vs Marquez Ali vs Frazier,Ward vs Gatti,Ortiz vs Maidana Moore vs Durelle,Duran vs Barkley,Klitschko vs Sanders,Klitschko vs Peter and many more! The only fights in MMA that gave me a fraction of that enjoyment have been Forrest vs Stephan and Liddell vs the axe murderer aswell as some of fedor and Penn and the battle between Leben vs Yamasoto or wutever his name is( ufc 117 )? I like to see great punchers stand and exchange,fighting with a kill or be killed demeanor! Sorry,but that’s just wut i like and it aint the same in MMA!! :)
I want the hand and foot speed of Muhammad Ali,the tenacity of Rocky Marciano and the brute strength of Brock Lesnar,mixed in with the conditioning of Sugar Ray Leonard and the heart of Mickey Ward! Who could beat me?
by HalifaxHitman on Aug 29, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
also forgot to mention my boy Don Frye :P
I want the hand and foot speed of Muhammad Ali,the tenacity of Rocky Marciano and the brute strength of Brock Lesnar,mixed in with the conditioning of Sugar Ray Leonard and the heart of Mickey Ward! Who could beat me?
by HalifaxHitman on Aug 29, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I like boxing too (although I wish there were a single dominant organization like UFC that could impose order on the chaos). But it doesn’t change what happened last night…UFC did beat boxing.
"Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
Fan of: Cole Miller, Dentist Neer, Alan Belcher, Bones Jones, Frank Mir
2 totally different SPORTS!
First off,im a huge boxing fan and always will be my first love lol but i do enjoy MMA aswell.MMA didn’t beat boxing,an MMA Veteran and ex-champ beat an aging boxing world champion in the OCTAGON! What do you think would happen if the same two fighters would fight in a boxing ring under the marquis of queensbury rules,simple Toney wins! It’s show business people,UFC was pretty lackluster but Dana knew a boxing vs mma headliner would sell tickets,simpe as that,it all = $$$ Put Brock in with Klitschko and the same thing would happen= Brock submits Klitschko in MMA Klitschko KO’s Brock in Boxing! :P
I want the hand and foot speed of Muhammad Ali,the tenacity of Rocky Marciano and the brute strength of Brock Lesnar,mixed in with the conditioning of Sugar Ray Leonard and the heart of Mickey Ward! Who could beat me?
But...
A high profile MMA fighter didn’t follow a boxing promoter around the country talking shit about it’s fighters. Toney did just that and he got exactly what he asked for.
Yes true......
But see it for wut it is please,i’ve never been a Toney fan for his brains lol but for his guts! He isn’t a thinker but a doer,but he also isn’t fighting anymore and his family needs to eat too! I’ll never be a huge Lesnar fan for the same reason,even though he’s effective at what he does he still doesn’t have the class of a true champ,i can respect him as a fighter but not as person! So,i totally agree JT taked alot of smack and didn’t back it up one bit! :P
I want the hand and foot speed of Muhammad Ali,the tenacity of Rocky Marciano and the brute strength of Brock Lesnar,mixed in with the conditioning of Sugar Ray Leonard and the heart of Mickey Ward! Who could beat me?
by HalifaxHitman on Aug 29, 2010 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions
who is the d bag ?
I really respect Coutoure .But who the f gave him a black belt for subbin James Toney ?That dude must won a shit load of money cause he lost his mind.Everyone at my house looked at eachother like huh ? That was pretty lame as if he subbed Minataro
by WE NEED A DEFENSIVE MINDED CENTER on Aug 29, 2010 3:42 AM EDT reply actions
I presumed it was done as a joke
The whole fight was pure comedy and although it brought in a lot of mainstream attention (and presumably buys) I hope that we don’t see anymore mismatches like that. If a pro boxer is going to come into MMA then make sure that he has some other skills before matching him up with a top guy like Randy.
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by David W-S on Aug 29, 2010 8:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Randy's not a top guy, just credible.
But I get your point and agree
Randy is top..
Hes been beating alot of guys above his natual weight and winning, believe me, if he always stayed at 205 his record would be way better..
Triangles don't dodge Fedor.
Well this shows that MMA rules make MMA fighters win, and vice-versa. I bet Randy won't win in a boxing ring with Toney, even with all his "dirty boxing".
If you don’t know for sure it’s a dude, it’s not gay.
-P-Dub
Who..
In their right mind said Randy would win in a boxing match? This is what TONEY wanted and asked for, not Randy, Dana or the UFC.
No kidding..
Toney wanted this, No one ever made this a challenge where Randy and Toney fight eachother at their own sports. He was talking shit and got his ass kicked..
Triangles don't dodge Fedor.
LOL exactly
But Toney has intelligence lol i think not! Who in his right mind would take his trash talk in mma serious? You could get more sensible conversation from a dementia plagued senior citizen! LOL
I want the hand and foot speed of Muhammad Ali,the tenacity of Rocky Marciano and the brute strength of Brock Lesnar,mixed in with the conditioning of Sugar Ray Leonard and the heart of Mickey Ward! Who could beat me?
by HalifaxHitman on Aug 29, 2010 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions
He was smart enough to make a shit ton of cash from this "experience"
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by norcaliangelsfan on Aug 29, 2010 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly Fights= Show Business = $$$$
I want the hand and foot speed of Muhammad Ali,the tenacity of Rocky Marciano and the brute strength of Brock Lesnar,mixed in with the conditioning of Sugar Ray Leonard and the heart of Mickey Ward! Who could beat me?
by HalifaxHitman on Aug 29, 2010 4:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I like mma but this was crap especially toney and the ufc trying to sell it as mma vs boxing. everyone knew james didnt stand a chance in there tonight but i know that if randy wouldve stepped in the ring with james he wouldve gotten emberrassed the same way james did tonight! And kj noons is an idiot for callin floyd out no way in hell he stands a chance in hell against him in the ring but i wont deny that he would beat floyd in the cage.
all u need is the heart of a mexican boxer. i cant wait for cain and lesnar!!!!
james toney did a great job of selling the fight which is he wanted to do
You know what..!
F&@k everyone who doubted corture…
No boxer can even compare to an elite mma athlete, whether it in an octagon, ring, hexagon. or anything on that matter..
Maybe this will sience the doubters from now on…
by Moses6787 on Aug 29, 2010 7:41 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
WoW what a victory for mma!
Hey here’s a good idea… How about Jim Brown vs Pele on the soccer field to see who’s the best Football player!! Give me a break, I have a 6 year old son who could have put up more of a fight than Toney.
by XxBomberxX on Aug 29, 2010 10:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
If this was Boxing versus MMA and MMA triumphed, then Lesnar beating Mir was Professional wrestling vs MMA and Pro wrestling triumphed
The comparison doesn’t make sense. It was a freak show and I felt bad for Toney. If they took his challenge to fight in MMA seriously they should have given him a warm up. It would have been better to bring back Kimbo Slice and see if Toney could beat him first.
Anyone who took Toney's trash talk at face value needs to wake up
He did it to hype the fight. It’s what he does. He’s done it with all his boxing fights, and after each of his losses (and wins) he respects his opponent and hugs it out. No one takes what he says seriously. Not Dana. Not Randy. Not even Toney himself. The fact that they use subtitles when he talks should give it away. He didn’t disrespect MMA. He hyped a PPV. He may not have all his marbles, but he definitely knew what he was getting into. Some people are acting like Couture won it for “them” and “their sport.” Please. This was nothing more than a James Toney edition of SHAQ VS.
Shitty fight...
Freak shows are supposed to be entertaining, this wasnt.
And yes, the celebration by randy was pathetic.
by Lester The Pimp on Aug 29, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions
I know right..
Why should he be happy when he just defended his sport and all the fans of that sport, He really needs to shit on himslef just to make miserable people like you happy..
Triangles don't dodge Fedor.
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