UFC 118 results recap from last night for 'Penn vs Edgar 2'
by maskedmadman on Aug 29, 2010 1:01 AM EDT
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The king is dead. Long live the king. When Frankie Edgar won the lightweight title from BJ Penn at UFC 112, there was a question mark attached. The decision over the legendary BJ Penn was iffy and fans didn't seem to buy him as the real champion.
After five more rounds at UFC 118, there are no more questions. BJ Penn came into his rematch with Frankie Edgar as the clear favorite, and in many ways this fight was a repeat performance of the first, with more of an edge to Edgar. Frankie had the answer to BJ's stand up early on in the first, using his speed and movement to avoid BJ's hands. Edgar was almost able to take BJ down at will, going as far as slamming Baby J later on in the first.
Edgar dominated Penn for 25 minutes on his way to a unanimous decision. Penn had no answer for Edgar's quickness and wrestling acumen. The champion was able to crack him standing and took him down several times, much to Joe Rogan's amazement.
There was a brief glimmer of hope for Penn fans when late in the fight Penn took Edgar down and quickly transitioned to a mount, but Edgar was able to squeeze a leg in and secure half guard before standing back up. Penn looked lost against the much quicker Frankie Edgar throughout the fight
In the end, Penn looked befuddled. Rogan discussed a move to 170 pounds, but he's already lost twice to the champion in that division, the amazing Georges St. Pierre. At just 31, Penn seems a fighter past his prime, a relic from another generation.
Nothing has changed since UFC 1 back in 1993. We learned then that a boxer can't defend against the takedown or the submission. Seventeen years later, that lesson still applies. As the crowd chanted "UFC, UFC, UFC" Randy Couture took down and submitted boxer James Toney in the first round.
James Toney against Randy Couture was destined to be a freakshow from the second it was announced. All of the talk about training partners getting subbed by Toney went up in smoke within seconds of the bell ringing when Randy immediately took James Toney to the mat and mounted him.
Couture rained down blows and was able to get Toney into the cage and lock in a loose head and arm choke. Toney survived, but Couture was finally able to lock it in tight and get a submission.
Toney talked trash for a month before the fight, but once the bell rang he seemed confused, seemingly unprepared to defend against basic MMA holds. Couture celebrated like he had won the Super Bowl and an unintelligible Toney interview with Joe Rogan put an exclamation point on the night.
Mario Miranda did his best to hang with Maia, but as soon as Maia took Miranda down in the beginning of the first and had Miranda's back it was clear there was a difference in skill.
It wasn't always fun to watch, but Maia was constantly looking to finish the fight. It was a clinic, but Miranda never lost faith. When Maia looked for an armbar or triangle, Miranda would explode and weasel his way out of the hold. It wasn't enough to make it competitive, but at least he was able to survive the to hear the decisions read.
Kenny Florian fought in front of his hometown crowd like he didn't want to lose while Gray Maynard fought his kind of fight. "Don't force anything," Florian's brother Keith shouted from the corner.
That wasn't going to be a problem in the first round for Florian or his opponent Gray Maynard. Both men were very cautious in an evenly fought first round.
With less then a minute left Maynard finally got a takedown, but was unable to improve his position or land any telling blows. Still, after four minutes of feeling each other out, Maynard stole the round with a single takedown.
The rest of the fight was rinse and repeat. The second round saw more of the same with Maynard controlling the pace of the bout. Florian simply couldn't stop the takedown and Maynard controlled him on his way to an easy decision.
The third round was looking to go the same way as Keith Florian was losing his voice from bellowing his shrill cries for nearly fifteen minutes before Kenny decided to start working his jiu-jitsu. It was too little too late as Maynard was able to defend two omoplata attempts and secure his decision victory in a snoozefest.
The crowd wasn't split at all. They were solidly behind Marcus Davis, chanting "Diaz sucks." But with a series of looping punches, Nate Diaz split the Irish Hand Grenade's eye open in the first round.
Davis was covered in blood, but with referee Yves Lavigne's timely plea to the doctor to let them fight, the show went on. Lavigne saved Davis' chances but it didn't help him much in the long run. The next round and a half saw Diaz just work on the cut until it was a giant gaping hole.
The huge cut on the right eye gave Diaz a target, one he wasn't afraid to hit again and again. By the opening of round three, the cut was enormous and even the referee was begging Davis to protect his eye.
After taking it to Davis for most of the fight standing, Diaz finally decided to take it to the ground. He quickly passed guard and finished the fight with a super tight guillotine. If I ever want someone to suffer serious damage, I'll recommend Yves Lavigne oversee the affair.
Gabe Ruediger's best move this weekend was bringing a cake with him to the weigh ins. It said "Sorry for your loss."
He gave it to Joe Lauzon, but probably should have kept it for himself.
The first round went fast and furious, as Lauzon quickly got the fight to the ground and was all over Ruediger who did his best to defend. They changed positions more times in the first minute and a half than vintage Ron Jeremy before Lauzon finally began raining down strikes.
For two minutes, Lauzon demolished Ruediger. He tossed him to the mat, took his back, mounted him, and pounded away.
Eventually, Ruediger gave up an arm which Lauzon was able to twist into an armbar to finish the fight in front of his hometown crowd. Boston finally seems satiated in their quest to see wanton destruction.
Before Lauzon wowed them, the crowd in Boston wasn't shy about letting the fighters in the night's opener on SPIKE TV know how they felt. Boos and chants of boring rained down on Andre Winner, but he might not have heard them with Nik Lentz smothering him for three rounds.
Winner, the runner up on the eighth season of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF), was never able to unleash his vicious standup on the Minnesota based wrestler.
"An ugly, ugly win for Nik Lentz," Joe Rogan told the world. Truer words have rarely been spoken.
That’s enough from us — now it’s your turn to discuss "Edgar vs. Penn 2" in the comments section below. Sound off, Maniacs.
For complete UFC 118 results and detailed blow-by-blow commentary of the televised main card fights click here.
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Said it before I’ll say it again FUCK BJ… Frankie Frankie Frankie Frankie
by malito3og3 on Aug 29, 2010 1:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Edgar – one of the most underrated fighters of all time OWNED jelly belly for all 5 rounds. Bye bye JB.
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
Darius Medlis - O'Tooles June 21, 1993
So Glad Frankie won,
From day one of this kids career he has done nothing but Improve,I dont think he will beat Gray,and I think Bj will smoke his next guy,so there is the BJ lover loop hole,Bj will get his belt back by beating Gray but will never beat Frankie,Frankie is just WAY to quick and has to much movement on his feet for BJ
I will bet you money BJ will not get his belt back
Please bet me……..you will lose. Maynard would own BJ as his wrestling and striking is better than BJ as well.
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
Darius Medlis - O'Tooles June 21, 1993
by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Franky looked amazing, but the reason he dominated BJ was his speed advantage. Maynard wouldn’t have that advantage and his boxing sucks. Bj would destroy maynard on there feet and wouldn’t be able to take him down. Frankie mixed it up and used his speed to frustrate BJ, something Maynard could even conceive of doing. I’m a huge Penn fan but I had my doubt when he had that flabby belly. All in all Frankie proved to be the best LW around. Hats off to him
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by LOKIE on Aug 29, 2010 1:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Frankie took BJ down every time he tried
Are you telling me that Gray Maynard(a better wrestler than Edgar) can’t take BJ down?
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Yeah I am. Maynard doesn’t mix it up like frankie did and doesn’t have a speed advantage. So yeah that’s what I’m telling you
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by LOKIE on Aug 29, 2010 1:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sounds like another person who wants to lose a bet
I will bet you that Maynard easily beats Penn…..
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
Darius Medlis - O'Tooles June 21, 1993
by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Well seeing as how Frankie is defending against maynard again I doubt we get to find that out, but if BJ and Maynard do fight again you’re on.
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by LOKIE on Aug 29, 2010 1:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ignore him - delusional Penn fan
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
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by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t mean again first of all and second read where I called frankie the best lw around you fuckin troll. God damn I hate this fuckin site on the weedend. I made a typo you fucks.
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by LOKIE on Aug 29, 2010 1:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol
Actually, you made a few. And you had a grammatical error in your response to DGB as you should have stated “they’re” as opposed to “there rematch”.
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
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by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
My bad you fuckin grammer queen. I’m sorry you got shoved in a locker you’re whole life
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by LOKIE on Aug 29, 2010 2:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And he used "you're" in the incorrect context in his reply too
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
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by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
You hate this site on weekends?
So your thinking Im a newbie to this site? May want to check way back into the files Ive been comming to this Site for a Very long time sorry I dont comment every day but I do have a job and have kids to worry about,I come here to state my opinion about the fights I have just watched and to get my news on mma not to deal with winey kids,
Whiney kid??? I’m the only BJ fan to not make excuses you fuck. I got a kid too so what the fuck does that have to with anything?
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by LOKIE on Aug 29, 2010 2:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So im a fuck for stating Im not a newbie to this site?
As i was seeing your post talking about how you hate this site on weekends( cause I was posting something)But the moment I come back and counter your comment you act like you have a dildo stuck up your ass, Good for you For having a kid,How it is doing well and I hope your a good father,Just dont put people down for not posting here every day,
And you’re not even who I called a troll. We agree on BJ vs Maynard you jackass
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by LOKIE on Aug 29, 2010 2:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know that you fuck I said since Frankie is defending against maynard in there rematch and that if BJ and maynard ever fought, it was a bet you fucking troll
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by LOKIE on Aug 29, 2010 1:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Frankie set his takedowns up with speed and striking just like gsp did to BJ. Someone like gray that’s a strait up wrestler wouldn’t be able to duplicate that IMO
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by LOKIE on Aug 29, 2010 1:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ill take that bet
Gray will be tooled by Bj,He isnt half as fast as Frankie.Speed and constant movement won this fight,Not Wresteling.
Are you serious?
Edgar’s wrestling played an immense role in that victory. You have no eyes I must conclude.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
He set it up with constant movement and if you did see that you’re the one with no eyes. Frankie dominated every aspect of the fight is why he was succesful with the TD. BJ couldn’t handle his speed and was two steps behind on every exchange and that’s what set up to the takedown
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by LOKIE on Aug 29, 2010 1:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Penn would get tooled by Maynard in the same fashion GSP tooled him
Yes sir, you have no eyes.
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
Darius Medlis - O'Tooles June 21, 1993
by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah because gray can dominate BJ on the stand up like gsp can. Gray is one dimensional
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by LOKIE on Aug 29, 2010 1:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's the same one dimension that GSP utilises.
Guess how BJ fared against GSP.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I hate gsp but don’t compare maynard and gsp jay you’re smarter than that
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by LOKIE on Aug 29, 2010 2:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maynard is a tough SOB and made Kflo look pretty average
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I agree, but he that’s kenflo. Kenny struggles with great wrestlers
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by LOKIE on Aug 29, 2010 2:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And...
So does BJ.
GSP
Frankie
Hughes
MAYNARD
All those guys are the top wrestler in their weight classes. Never bet against the BEST wrestler in their respective weight class. It’s a suckers bet. Just ask all the guys betting on Florian tonight.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Maynard is a power wretler, he reminds me of Hughes in many ways, if he could improve his JJ he would be scary.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
No one at LW can stop his take downs
I hate him but I respect his strength and ability to follow a game plan.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Game Plan
I think that Edgar Maynard is going to be great. Thinking that Maynard will take the win although if Frankie can keep dancing he has a great shot at keeping his title.
As for BJ it is just fact – he has tremendous trouble with wrestlers, especially those with evolved games in other aspects. Especially those that can guard against subs and negate BJJ when on top.
Having thousands of posts on a MMA site does not make you an expert, training martial arts, wrestling or boxing makes you an expert.
When they were in a clinch and Edgar lifted Penn up and down on his ass
or when Penn had edgar’s back but managed to turn him back on his ass once more? I’m saying Edgar owned Penn’s striking AND wrestling. What are you saying again?
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
Striking, wrestling, endurance, game plan, adjustments, transitions, simly everything. Penn looked very middle of the pack at best last night.
Having thousands of posts on a MMA site does not make you an expert, training martial arts, wrestling or boxing makes you an expert.
I have No eyes?
I watched a 5 round outclass strike fest with a hell of a leg sweep and some constant presure,and 1-2 take down,It was speed that frankie won this with and foot work not a wrestelfest
Your not even going to give wrestling credit for the takedowns besides the sweep?
and then the control on the ground after? Sorry bud but that is all wrestling right there.
Having thousands of posts on a MMA site does not make you an expert, training martial arts, wrestling or boxing makes you an expert.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!"
Penn was nothing but hype all along.
Can’t wait to hear the new excuse.
Hahahahahahahahahahahhahah!
I am laughing my focking ass off.
I feel sad we won’t hear from some maniacs anymore though. Not!!!
The mofos dug themselves a hole. I hope they stay in there and fall into oblivion.
That’s all Ill say for now. But I’ll be back with more real soon. I hope you had as much fun as me tonight maniacs. If not, tough luck, Frankie is da shit!!
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
+1^^^^^^^
I’ve been saying that for years……
Toney was a joke.
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
Darius Medlis - O'Tooles June 21, 1993
by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
The worst thing is I picked Penn in Mac's pool.
I consider myself the worst fool on Mania. And you can call me that for the next twelve months. I deserve it fully. after all the praising I did for Edgar, I gotta be the dumbest idiot in here for siding on the side on hype over a true champion. Please help me hate myself better. I’m buying a focking whip tomorrow and intend to rip my back to shred with it on a daily basis.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
A bit disappointing that fight.
Too evenly matched. Too much respect between these two.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
What's up with Florian when there is a fight that means something
He has just gone from one of my fav fighters to a meh.
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
Darius Medlis - O'Tooles June 21, 1993
by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I never saw a puppy in the crowd so I don't know what he was looking for.....
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
Darius Medlis - O'Tooles June 21, 1993
by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
It was such an important fight for both of them.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
hmm....
I am a penn fan and i ll admit penn was beat clearly twice…. but Edgar if ur the better fighter, could u please finish a fucking fight for once?? I mean jesus christ two definitive wins in ur last eleven?? really?!?!
by EdgarFinishAfightPlease? on Aug 29, 2010 1:26 AM EDT reply actions
Who the F are you to question anything now
Nice new name JA. You should change it to Pennwasmyloverbutheneverknewitbecausehismotherwasbetweenusandmeandherwerefacingthesamedirection
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
Darius Medlis - O'Tooles June 21, 1993
by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
You're talking to the ghost of xxBAxx816 now I believe.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
?
Excuse me? Are you addressing me?
Undisputed Sig Bet Champion on the TitoOrtiz/Fight Pros forums!!
BJ Penn, best P4P fighter on the planet. I'll still stand by that all day long, bitches.
Always have respected Shogun Rua.
8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
About $5000 in debt I believe
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
Darius Medlis - O'Tooles June 21, 1993
by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Please shut..
your fucking mouth. The only thing that comes out of it are gay references. Nothing relevant at all to an MMA discussion.
Undisputed Sig Bet Champion on the TitoOrtiz/Fight Pros forums!!
BJ Penn, best P4P fighter on the planet. I'll still stand by that all day long, bitches.
Always have respected Shogun Rua.
8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
Ok - who won the Edgar - Penn fight tonight
And by the way you are a fucking loser.
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
Darius Medlis - O'Tooles June 21, 1993
by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Tonight?
So then you must have doubts about who won the first fight? And by the way YOU’RE a fucking loser.
Undisputed Sig Bet Champion on the TitoOrtiz/Fight Pros forums!!
BJ Penn, best P4P fighter on the planet. I'll still stand by that all day long, bitches.
Always have respected Shogun Rua.
8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
No doubts here
I was looking forward to the barrage of excuses…..can’t wait for the Penn camp to come up with some but I’m sure even their camp or his mother has run that well dry.
PS – you are a loser
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
Darius Medlis - O'Tooles June 21, 1993
by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Bro?
I’m not your bro..
Undisputed Sig Bet Champion on the TitoOrtiz/Fight Pros forums!!
BJ Penn, best P4P fighter on the planet. I'll still stand by that all day long, bitches.
Always have respected Shogun Rua.
8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
Haha!
What up my little bitch?
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
You're a tool..
that’s what’s up. Bitch.
Undisputed Sig Bet Champion on the TitoOrtiz/Fight Pros forums!!
BJ Penn, best P4P fighter on the planet. I'll still stand by that all day long, bitches.
Always have respected Shogun Rua.
8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
Do you still stand by your sig?
It says you do. BJ Penn isn’t even in the P4P top 10 by tomorrow morning.
You should change your sig before you look like a moron.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Yea I'll still stand by my sig..
Randy Couture, BJ Penn, and Dan Henderson the only people to hold belts in different divisions true P4Pers in my book.
Undisputed Sig Bet Champion on the TitoOrtiz/Fight Pros forums!!
BJ Penn, best P4P fighter on the planet. I'll still stand by that all day long, bitches.
Always have respected Shogun Rua.
8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
LOL
So what you’re saying is that you have no idea what P4P is.
That’s understandable. Keep the sig kid.
Do you really think that P4P has to do with changing weight classes?
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Multiweight title reigns does count as it proves that you're the best overall rather than it being a case of what ifs between fighters in different divisions
However being a multiweight champ means nothing in current rankings, especially when you lose twice to the same guy in a row (and losing every round in the rematch). BJ is no longer the best LW in the world or a top 10 p4p fighter, past success is irrelevant. I’m just gutted that I pussed out of picking Frankie in the pool or betting money on him.
"Stay classy San Diego"
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by David W-S on Aug 29, 2010 5:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah Edgar is the new #1
Maynard with his performance should move into to and drop BJ to three.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Yea Penn is done? Too bad Frank was the only one bleeding..talk to me when Frankie wins two belts in two different divisions, fucker.
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BJ Penn, best P4P fighter on the planet. I'll still stand by that all day long, bitches.
Always have respected Shogun Rua.
8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
Lets all live in the past......
I remember when I used to walk to school barefoot for 18 miles each way………
Get a life loser!!!
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Thick or thin she'll stick it in
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by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Lame..
You’re the biggest queer on this site and you’re dropping zings? Dream on, homie. You’re the biggest noob on here.
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BJ Penn, best P4P fighter on the planet. I'll still stand by that all day long, bitches.
Always have respected Shogun Rua.
8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
frankie can easily make 145 and win a belt there
SHOGUN SLAYED THE DRAGON! Hell Yeah
by Phenomenal Angel on Aug 29, 2010 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Put down..
you’re bong. Maynard kills Frank.
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BJ Penn, best P4P fighter on the planet. I'll still stand by that all day long, bitches.
Always have respected Shogun Rua.
8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
Regardless of what Maynard does to Frank at 155
Frank couldn’t drop to 145 and beat Aldo.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
i think he could make 145
but whats the point
and yea i forgot aldo was champ, but u never know it could be a great fight
SHOGUN SLAYED THE DRAGON! Hell Yeah
by Phenomenal Angel on Aug 29, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Frankie doesn't knock people out and he wouldn't have his speed advantage.
He’d have to cut weight finally and Aldo is a killer. Frankie would not beat Aldo.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Ok..
+1 to this. I’d even take Faber over Frank too..
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BJ Penn, best P4P fighter on the planet. I'll still stand by that all day long, bitches.
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8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
tyson beat faber, and i dont see how frank wouldnt beat faber, fabers one of my faves too
he wouldnt have to cut much weight and until we see aldo go to 155 and defend his belt at 145 a few times i cant say much, but hey frankie proved me wrong twice already
SHOGUN SLAYED THE DRAGON! Hell Yeah
by Phenomenal Angel on Aug 29, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I understand that beating Penn doesn't mean much anymore.
Aldo would have finished Penn in the second or third round. And I’m not even trolling.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
??Cmon Edgar just has BJ's number you can't say Aldo does too
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Mirror mirror on..
the wall. This comment above says it all^^^ NOOOOBBBBB!!
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BJ Penn, best P4P fighter on the planet. I'll still stand by that all day long, bitches.
Always have respected Shogun Rua.
8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
Agree 100%
IF(that’s a big if) he could take the shots Edgar took. BJ did land a few in the first 2 rounds. I haven’t seen Aldo tested by someone with that kind of power.
IF he could handle the power of a BJ hook, he’d murder Penn. Probably beat him in a straight grappling match too. BJ didn’t do shit. Didn’t even attempt a triangle in his career. All of his fans are going to have to stop talking about his jits, it was obviously over rated this whole time.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Edgars speed killed BJ more than anything
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Aldo is just as fast
And he can KO people so he doesn’t have to take 25 minutes worth of chances to be KO’d himself.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I want to see him face LW competition at 155 before I judege him
His opponets many of the LW could beat.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
thats same thing i wanna see
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by Phenomenal Angel on Aug 29, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
The first ever American to win..
a world championship BJJ title has overrated BJJ skills? C’mon MAANNNN!!
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BJ Penn, best P4P fighter on the planet. I'll still stand by that all day long, bitches.
Always have respected Shogun Rua.
8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
he sat on his past achievements and never trained like a champion should.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
Yeah he is not a late round fighter
HE couldn’t even attack at the end of the fifth becasue he was tired.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
He FINISHED
both KenFlo and Diego in the championship rounds?? What are you both talking about?
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Two dudes that didn't grapple with him at all.
He tires easily when people put up any sort of fight.
There. Is that better?
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Grapple with him?
Both KenFlo and Diego tried to take BJ down…
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Kenflo is not a wrestler.
Kenny leaned him against the fence and tried to charley horse him into submission. Not exactly exerting energy.
Diego stood with him most of the fight. IF he tried to take him down it wasn’t often, or it was after he was already bleeding like a stuck pig.
Neither of those guys is/was the best wrestler in their division. Which is the kind of grapplers we’re talking about.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
He has no idea what he is talking about
He thinks BJ’s endurance is great LOL
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
He FINISHED both KenFlo and Diego in the championship rounds?? What are you both talking about?
He was never tested endurance wise against those guys just used them as punching bags. When BJ has to work he gets tired, thats what I’m talking about.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Has to work?
Both of those guys tried like mad to take BJ down. You telling me BJ didn’t have to work to not be taken down?
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Bj had to work very little and made them pay when they did try
Both fighters were done after round one
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
What are you talking about?
Go watch the Diego fight again, if you count 5 takedown attempts you’re watching the wrong fight.
Facebook is for gays!
He was tired late in the first.
He only really has a gas tank that lasts about 4 minutes.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
?
Crack kills too. I have mercy on your soul.
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I was being a little hard on him
He didn’t gas until half way through the third. I was impressed.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Only god can have mercy on someones soul
Are you god?
I figured god would have seen this coming. You guys didn’t get the last Penn/Edgar PPV in heaven?
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
i love religulous, great movie
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by Phenomenal Angel on Aug 29, 2010 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions
What are you guys talking about?
There’s a movie called religulous?
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Did I say something that triggered both of you into remembering this movie?
I’ve never seen it. If I just quoted part of the movie it was coincidental.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
I take responsibility for the misunderstanding.
I am quite drunk.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
LOL
OK
I gotta head to bed. GREAT FIGHTS AGAIN. That’s like 4 or 5 good events in a row(including SF).
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
lol
its a funny movie about religiion, just when u said something about heaven i thought of it cus i just saw it yesterday.
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by Phenomenal Angel on Aug 29, 2010 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup I saw the first fight up here..
and BJ torched him.
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No response to Jay's comment?
Didn’t think so.
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
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by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm talking about recently
I know he won that shit….15 years ago.
He is garbage off his back and uses one sub only. Doesn’t seem like a wizard to me.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
The only garbage
is your last comment. Please tell me you’re drunk..
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RNC on fighters that have lost their will to fight...meh
He’s good on his feet. Over rated and behind the game on the ground. That’s real talk. I don’t drink my friend. I fish.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Drink like
a fish? Yes I believe you. You’re comments and thought process seem quite blurred.
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+1
One trick submission “artist”
My Top MMA Talents
1. Jon ''Bones'' Jones
2. Anthony ''Showtime'' Pettis
3. Phil ''Mr. Wonderful'' Davis
4. Terry Etim
5. Patricio ''Pitbull'' Freire
by robinhorobson on Aug 29, 2010 5:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BJJ world champ
That had no answer when he was on his back last night. He might need some refresher courses actually train with guys that are on his level instead of just people that keep telling him he is great.
Having thousands of posts on a MMA site does not make you an expert, training martial arts, wrestling or boxing makes you an expert.
I agree I think aldo kills edgar
Only sailors use condoms, and im a f&*king pirate!!!
by LOKIE on Aug 29, 2010 2:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think maynard will beat frankie
im a maynard fan and i was glad to see kenny lose
and i dont smoke
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by Phenomenal Angel on Aug 29, 2010 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't stop laughing!
Mirror mirror, tell me who’s the biggest noob on here?
xxBAxx816, you are in the top 5 of the biggest noobs ever on here.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
You're such a noob..
you have to post a lame pic on here to try and prove a point, please this isn’t 4yrs ago on the forums, turd. Please try again…
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You want me to try again? Ok.
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Easy Tom Wolfe..
never seen that picture before..ORIGINAL ORIGINAL..
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I love it - Missouri is in a losing battle with everyone on this site
Just like his idol with a 0 – 10 ring record in his last 2 title fights. Overrated.
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
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by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Do us all a favor
and kill yourself. You’re lame.
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8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
EdgarFinish... C'mon look at your sig, BJ was dominated
I would rather be KO than be totally schooled for 5 rounds.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Dude..
Schooled? If it was so dominate then where was the finish?
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8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
Penn's career is over.
No wait, it’s finished.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
You're time and opinion on this board
are the only things that are finished. You deserve a permenant ban, ripper.
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I'm willing to stand trial.
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You should
be slaughtered for being such a douche and irrelevant to this board….just continue to play grab ass with all your boyfriends on here. You’re real cool, real COOL.
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R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
I'm not going anywhere rest assured.
I think I will enjoy these little conversations we have for a long time.
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Conversations?
If you mean me bitch slapping you up and down these boards than so be it..
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8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
Are you a troll or what xxBAXX
You make James Toney look like a smart man.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Oh the guy
who quotes Mike Tyson wants to talk about smarts?! LMFAO!!!
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8-7-10 Anderson Silva was destroyed and exposed.
R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
How do you intend to do that with such a douchy sig?
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Douchy?
Nuff said..nuff said…WOW you’re a mental midget.
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R.I.P. Dime and Ryan Gracie.
Go to bed xxBAxx your high school insults are amusing but starting to get lame.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I just said that to
you like 20 minutes ago..haven’t we already addressed your originality issues?
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LOL
xxBAxx will have to play with his Penn doll today or troll all day long.
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
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by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't need to be a finish
Look at Couture, Fitch, GSP….the dominate their opponents. Finishing does not prove your the best winning does
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Spoken
by a true moron who quotes Mike Tyson..Couture finished tonight..and before that too..
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LOLTrue moron?
Tyson has more commons sense than you what does that say. Answer my question are you insulting GSP, Fitch and Couture as well becasue winning is exactly that winning doesn’t how you do it winning is the ultimate goal no matter how you do it. Yeah it’s more exciting for the fans to see a KO but that just means they are more entertaining. Remember BJ couldn’t finish Edgar.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
That was a nice run-on sentence.
You didn’t address my comment about Couture finishing fights…and YES GSP AND FITCH are boring fighthers who would rahther lay out a decision then actually attempt to finish a fight on an overmatched opponent.
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Yea Mike
I’m calling you a moron once again..
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xxBAxx knows how to pick winners
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
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by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Tell me xxxxxxxBAxxxxxx93485723098452093487598
Do you think IF BJ can earn another title shot that he could take the belt away from Edgar? What would he do differently? You just seem so knowledgable about MMA that I am looking for your insight. Are you going to corner Penn in his next endeavor?
Having thousands of posts on a MMA site does not make you an expert, training martial arts, wrestling or boxing makes you an expert.
Killer?
He won ONE decision and was never close to “killing” Penn.
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Uh the record book says he won TWO
Just an FYI.
He owned BJ so much he has him going home to think about his future. BJ even said Frankie beat him twice in a row.
Having thousands of posts on a MMA site does not make you an expert, training martial arts, wrestling or boxing makes you an expert.
Hey idiot,
yes, Prodigy Killer. BEAT HIM TWICE, don’t be fucking delusional. Just because the judges didn’t give your fat boy the fight, does not mean he was robbed. When in those two fights did the “Prodigy” looked good? He was average last night and in Abu Dhabi. But I don’t expect you to understand since you like following losers, Chief’s fan. WAR EDGAR!!!!
Facebook is for gays!
Not like he's got too many to spare after that Saunders fight
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
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by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Shame on Joe!
Joe Rogan should be ashamed of his biased opinions and one-sided commentary during the Penn/Edgar bout. It was all about what Penn was doing, what he could be doing, what he should do, and what he wasn’t doing. There was ever the hopeful edge to Joe’s lop-sided comments, all ever-hopeful that Penn would do something to redeem himself. Clearly Edgar took all 5 rounds decisivley(? sp) and even at the end during Rogan’s interview with Edgar, there was a blatant lack of enthusiasm or proper respect shown towards Edgar and his well-deserved win and retention of the belt.
Usually I love Joe, tonight I was embarrassed for him and irritated by his pettiness.
by Donna Bengert Warriner on Aug 29, 2010 1:41 AM EDT reply actions
Penn a relic and past his prime?
Wasn’t that the same douche who picked Penn to win?
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i wanna see frankie frankie the daylights out of melendez just for fun
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by Phenomenal Angel on Aug 29, 2010 2:10 AM EDT reply actions
xxBAxx816...
Your so far up blow job penny’s ass you don’t know what you’re talking about so just stop.
xxBAxx816 oh and BTW
Your signature shows how much you understand. Did you see sonnen’s face compared to silva’s post fight? wonder who hits like a woman? the diaz brothers hit harder and thats a bad thing. did you know silva had a broken rib and was told by his doctor not to fight that night? did you know he came out to submit him and would not win in any other way because sonnen talks crap about the nog brothers and bjj? your’re absolutely ignorant.
Majority rules.
BAs an idiot (known that for a while) but the only reason that Andy tried to win by submission was because he couldn't avoid Sonnens takedowns
However he proved that he was the better man and when he needed to he rose to the occassion and pulled off the win with the triangle. Unlike BJ he was able to overcome adversity and finish the fight that he was on his way to losing. When BJ is under pressure he wilts and gasses, he lacks the mental strength of Andy as well as his heart. These fights with Edgar and Sonnen have proven why Andy is a champion and a top p4p fighter and why BJ never truly lived up to his talent or to expectations. You can’t teach heart and BJ lacks it.
"Stay classy San Diego"
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by David W-S on Aug 29, 2010 5:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
AMEN - I don't expect a reply from BA on that one
Thick or thin she'll stick it in
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by hairybumcrack on Aug 29, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
David.. WELL Spoken
I agree 1BILLION percent.
Penn, hopefully.. Got a final ego-check. Maybe he will realize he’s not the man people claimed him to be and he will be more modest.. I don’t see that happening.. But oh well
lol...
Read what Anderson’s post fight comments. He came in there at 50% and still submitted him easily. You obviously have never had a broken rib nor do you fight or train. If you do fight then you havent tried it with a broken rib. You have no way to stop a takedown from a child when you rib is broken… no core strength. Anderson was smiling when Sonnen was punching him. He didnt even try… he let go of two subs early. He went out there to submit him with a broken rib and he did just that.. and it was his game plan.
Anderson Silva PLANNED to let Chael beat his ass for 4 and a half rounds before slapping on the sub.
Makes total sense. You’re hilarious.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
It Was Clear To Anyone
Who studied strength, conditioning and agility that Edgar was going to win both of those fights.
If you studied strengths and weaknesses of athletes, you would have seen back in April a very unconditioned athlete in Penn and even last night, his physique was sorely lacking knowing what Frank was going to bring into the Octagon.
Now that BJ is yesterdays news and we have a solid, undisputed lightweight champion it is time to look to the future.
The fact is, with the new Frank Edgar there is no chance either a Florian or Maynard beats him. Neither of those guys have the speed or conditioning to keep up with Frank. Maynard has the best shot because of his wrestling skills and his strength but even then, we don’t know if he has the conditioning to be able to maintain the intensity for 5 rounds.
I will tell you this, and I know it for a fact……Frankie would have answered the bell for round 7 just as fresh as he did for Round 5.
I told you all to watch the training film releases and a lot would be said. I don’t think it was that BJ wasn’t training, I just don’t think he could train as hard as Frankie worked.
So, all of you Keyboard Combatants who wanted to wager me over this fight……glad now you didn’t?
Penn vs
GOMI…
Maybe after some legendary fights it would be cool to see him go for the belt….
Any smaller boxers,,,
I would also like to see Penn vs Clay Guida
Wondering....
First off, props to Edgar for showing everyone that his win was legit and that the belt belongs around his waist. I think his best attribute is his confidence that he can get it done- he’s got speed and other tools, but to me the whole question seemed settled in his mind right after he won the first fight. BJ, on the other hand, relived and rehashed the whole thing several times over, and when he started saying it was about beating Frankie up and not about a title, I knew his head was all over the place, which has always been his undoing.
That said, isn’t it a little premature to be calling BJ a dinosaur? I despise the guy- he’s a whiner unparalleled in sports, he’s not a dedicated fighter, cliff diving in Hilo instead of training and adding new things to his arsenal- but he’s still got the tools to be the champ, and he’s a handful for ANYONE who gets into the ring with him.
I know he lost two to Frankie, but he’s no chump (aside from GSP, who else has ever manhandled BJ with takedowns like him?), and he’s got two losses to GSP and one to an in-his-prime Matt Hughes, but he’s fought tough guys every time out.
Whoever said he needs a new camp has it right- I think that with the right trainers he could dominate again, even though I’d stop watching the LW division if it happened because of my dislike for the guy.
As much as I don’t like him, I think those stating his irrelevance may be jumping the gun. If Kenny can fight for the belt three times, why not BJ?
I Don't Think BJ
Is a dinosaur. He still has great jiu jitsu and he still has heavy hands. His problem is simple….he is in the same division as the guy who will TRULY go down as the greatest Lightweight in UFC history. Frank Edgar will hold this belt for the more than foreseeable future. There is no Lightweight on the radar who can beat Frankie.
BJ is still a respectable fighter when facing athletes who do not have the conditioning and work ethic of a Frankie Edgar.
BJ’s answer is not moving up a weight either. GSP would demolish him as well.
Frank Edgar will hold this belt for the more than foreseeable future. There is no Lightweight on the radar who can beat Frankie.
Are you aware his next fight will be against the first and only man to date who’s beaten him? I’d like to see how he answers Maynard in their rematch before anointing him the new greatest LW in UFC history.
As I explained on another post
Edgar’s loss to Maynard was before he set up his current team. Since forming Team Edgar, he not only has not lost, he has defeated what many were calling one of the top 3 p4p fighters on the planet.
Not to mention, Maynard’s fight last night was a snorefest. Maynard is big and strong but does he have the conditioning to stay with the speedy Edgar? I do not think so.
His last fight being a snorefest is kind of irrelevant to whether he’d beat Frankie again or not. It’s what he brings to the table that matters – size, strength, and the ability to take people down and maintain a good top position. All factors he was able to exploit to full effect against Edgar in their first fight. I’d actually like to see Edgar beat him in the rematch, but seeing how he was able to handle him the first time makes me skeptical for their rematch. I do think Frankie’s conditioning is greater, and their next fight being a 5 round affair works in his favor. But if Gray smothers him again for three rounds like he did last time, he can cruise the next two and still win the fight, which is where Frankie’s seeming inability to finish upper tier fighters could come back to bite him.
Yeah speed vs power
Both fighters made good LW’s look bad but Snore fest? Some have said Edgars fight was a snore fest too? I don’t get you guys I understand a KO is more exciting and if Maynard landed a few more in the grapple and came away with the TKO nothing would be said along the lines of snore fest. Part of MMA is grappling and Maynard is one of the best. Now in a five round fight I think Edgar and Maynard would be deadly, yes Edgar has changed camps but Maynard is three times better at bring fighters to the ground and keeping them there than BJ is.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
A lot of Frankie's game is in the planning
Maynard will have Randy in his corner and helping him prepare. I think this also takes away a huge part of Frankie’s game.
Having thousands of posts on a MMA site does not make you an expert, training martial arts, wrestling or boxing makes you an expert.
The Planning...
Is what is done based on the fighters prior performance and tendencies. Maynard has not progressed in his game at the level that Frankie has.
This team Frankie has assembled has made him virtually unbeatable and putting the entire UFC hall of fame in Maynard’s corner and it still wont change the fact that Frankie will beat him.
Definitely a valid point
Having thousands of posts on a MMA site does not make you an expert, training martial arts, wrestling or boxing makes you an expert.
Agree'd.
I too have a major hate-on for Penn, but I recognize his skillset and how great he truly is.
Styles will forever make fights… and Penn obviously does not match well against Edgar.
Hughes has lost to Hallman in quick fashion a couple of times.. But is Hughes any less of a great fighter? Some people just have other guys numbers..
I TOLD YOU ALL DIDNT I?
Edgar via SPEED, CARDIO and SUPERIOR BOXING.
I knew he would beat penn again.
by Lester The Pimp on Aug 29, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
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