BJ Penn: 'I'm pretty damn motivated right now'
by maskedmadman on Aug 27, 2010 11:16 AM EDT
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"A motivated BJ Penn is somebody not to mess with, and you know what? I'm pretty motivated, I'm pretty damn motivated right now... Everybody wants to talk about how hard they train going into their fight, and I just want to tell you how hard I rested going into this fight."
Heading into UFC 118 one of the big questions, as with any other BJ Penn fight, is how motivated will BJ Penn be? There was talk after the first Edgar fight of just how little respect BJ gave his opponent and how he may have taken Frankie Edgar too lightly. Penn talked not about how hard he trained, but instead how hard he rested. Is BJ Penn really taking this fight as seriously as he should be, or will the joke be on BJ on Saturday night?
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I'm totally confused. I just want to see the fucking fight already.
To be the best you gotta be one crazy son of a bitch…and that’s the truth - BJ Penn
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"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
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i live in hawaii so idk whats up.. lol
"i only want to be known as the best ever, is that too much to ask?" - BJ Penn.
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Motivate yourself to shut the hell up, Baby Gay! Every damn fight we gotta listen to this fool talk about how motivated he is, how he’s “new and improved”, etc etc. and his slacker days are over. Bullshit! Prove it! Win 3 in a row for a change! This little prick has severe ADHD and hasn’t been able to maintain a win streak since 2004!
"My prediction?...Pain!"
He sounded pretty pumped on Bruce Buffer’s radio show on Sherdog the other day. Sounded pretty confident. It was actually a pretty good interview. I
What I've learned from fighters is...
don’t believe a word they say.
Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.
think he is more or less motivated than his welterweight title shot with GSP?
I'm gonna go home, watch DirecTV, drink bud light and ride my Harley Davidson!!
excuses?
BJ didnt make any excuses, he didnt need too.He won that fight.
so him being sick apparently wasnt an excuse?
I'm gonna go home, watch DirecTV, drink bud light and ride my Harley Davidson!!
Or the fact he has said repeatedly he wasn't motivated for the last Frankie fight.
That’s not an excuse?
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Natorious apparently watched the alternate-ending version of the fight where BJ won
and in that one he didn’t need to make any excuses afterward.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
I believe BJ won the fight too.
Just because three people sitting ringside think Frankie won, doesn’t mean its true.
Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.
Why don't we argue about HOW exactly true that makes it?
Or we could just wait till tomorrow and actually see what happens in their second fight. What makes more sense?
Bullets dodge Fedor.
Tell Shogun that, Slim
To me in this sport, it’s fighting, it’s mixed martial arts, and I feel there’s too many athletes and not enough fighters…I think these people going in taking these sports enhancement drugs, they’re not real fighters, they’re athletes. I’m a fighter. I’m a real fighter. That’s all I did my whole life. - BJ Penn
That logic would work the same if BJ was given the win.
Do you think BJs corner was panicking because they thought he was winning, get real, even they knew that he was going to lose his belt if he didn’t do something different. He didn’t and he lost fair and square, or maybe you are more qualified than his corner, on whether or not he him doing absolutely nothing different when they asked him to was enough to give him the win.
I don’t think saying I wasn’t motivated is an excuse… Basically that just means you didn’t train as hard as the other guy and he beat..if anything it is really an honest and humble thing to admit…
by bobncc98 on Aug 27, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's hardly humble.
If anything it’s disrespectful of your opponent because it implies that you took them lightly and didn’t consider them a serious challenge.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
You can not be motivated for other reasons besides your opponent… As a fighter it is more embarrasing to say you didn’t do your best then to do your best and lose…
No, it's not.
To do your best and lose in MMA means that you opponent is a better fighter. If their best (or possibly not even their best) is better than your best then logically they are better. BJ would never admit that an opponent is a better fighter than him. Hence, claiming to not be motivated is an excuse. I understand that you’re a BJ fan, but this is a stupid thing to try and defend him on.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
The BJ fan cry.
He’s never the best BJ possible when he loses. BJ and his fans should just shut up with the excuses.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
No excuses.. GSP put it on BJ..and as a BJ fan I do not think he has the ability to beat GSP..However in this particular case I do not feel that we saw the best BJ possible.. He came in w/ a bad gameplan and couldn’t put it together..no matter what gameplan he has w/GSP he cant win… I am not saying BJ hasn’t had plenty of excuses in his day..
I never said we did.
I’m just saying that you’re flat-out wrong whan you said:
As a fighter it is more embarrasing to say you didn’t do your best then to do your best and lose
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
No worries, we all post things we later disagree with.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
Or that Frankie's corner stole the fight by putting him on their shoulders.
yeah, BJ doesn’t make any excuses.
by PetrozellisJab on Aug 27, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn’t say that it won them the fight..He said they were “TRYING” to steal the fight by doing this..and that is exactly what they did..I don’t personally believe it weighed in on the decision but it is why they did it…
How do you know that?
You don’t think it’s possible that they did it because they were excited that their fighter had just executed his gameplan and gotten the better of his opponent?
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
That is the only logically reason to do it.. It is the same reason corners yell for their fighters to put their hands up ,etc… You want to look like you believe you won a close fight…
There's no way
It’s not like the judges try and score a fight after it’s over. They score round by round. At best all lifting a fighter up like that can do is influence the final round.
by PetrozellisJab on Aug 27, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not saying it does…but why not do it? it cant hurt…you really think they were doing that just because they thought he might of won? that is really really stupid and makes Edgar look dumb..
I don't think so
I think regardless of the outcome Frankie and his team were at the very least proud of his performance and probably legitimately thought he won
by PetrozellisJab on Aug 27, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh come on… you dont go prancing around w/ a guy on your shoulders because you took a fight to a decision…
Really?
After watching the guy you fought run through his last two opponents? The celebration was warranted. Besides that’s not even what we’re talking about. My point is BJ’s an idiot for implying that the fight was stolen because of that celebration. He’s a crybaby who never takes responsibility for his losses. At this point it has been left up to his fans to defend him. As you’ve done all over this board saying that he had a bad game plan, etc. I’m having a hard time figuring out where you stand with BJ at this point. Yesterday didn’t we agree that we both thought Edgar would win a decision? Now today you’re saying the opposite. No big deal if you changed your mind.
by PetrozellisJab on Aug 27, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Not only did BJ run through his previous two opponents,
but nobody was giving Edgar a chance in that fight. So yes, I think that’s exactly how they would react following his performance.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
With you guys.
Noons does not have power in his hands. Maybe his knees but his hands do not have KO power. they’re good enough to cut up and swell up gurgel’s face, but he won’t be ko’ing gurgel tonight.-STAK
Not me… I think you wait til the decision is announced.. I understand that they were happy..But if you are right and that is why they did it then it is pretty classless…but thats just my opinion..act like you’ve been there before..
I understand that sentiment.
But he hadn’t been there before. And most pundits said he never would be. You see guys react that way after fights end often, and given the culmination of all the work they’ve put into training for the fight and executing their gameplan I don’t begrudge them that display of emotion.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
How is a bad gameplan an excuse? I don’t think edgar would win a decision, I said I was worried that BJ wouldn’t adjust and Edgar would squeek out another decision…I am a BJ fan who knows that sometimes he is on his game and sometimes he isn’t.. I am realistic that he as not as consistent as some other guys…
Ok thanks. That makes your stance a little more clear.
by PetrozellisJab on Aug 27, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
You can’t go in there with a gameplan to KO edgar..That just isn’t going to happen… That is why I feel he lost the first fight..If he goes in with the same gameplan he will lose again..If he changes and uses his striking to set up the take down and cut off the ring I feel he will win and there is nothing Edgar will be able to do to stop him..
Either way it's a ridiculous line of thinking
And in the countdown show bj said “it’s ok if you wanna win fights like that. We see how you are” or something to that effect.
I’m starting to think after a loss BJ’s IQ goes down about thrity points while trying to figure out why he lost.
by PetrozellisJab on Aug 27, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn’t matter if it makes sense to you.. Different things motivate people in different ways.. If this is what BJ can use to fuel the fire then he should use it..because it doesn’t make sense to you is irrelevant
So what are you arguing?
(A) That BJ correctly identified that Frankie’s corner raised him on their shoulder’s to purposefully sway the judges
Or
(B) That BJ is saying this dribble to “fuel the fire” – presumably you mean he’s selling the fight or playing mind games with Frankie
Either way I disagree. BJ’s ego just can’t accept that he got beat that night. Therefore we see excuses:
1. sinus infection
2. Not motivated for fight
3. Frankie swayed the judges by getting raised up after the fight
4. Frankie just ran away and wouldn’t engage
by H.I. McDunnough on Aug 27, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
A)I am saying a few different things… I do personally believe that they were carrying him around on their shoulders to display that he won the fight and the last round.They may have also been excited and thought he did win..But it was at minimum a combination of both..
B) I think to remain a top tier fighter you need to be able to believe things that might not be true.. You have to convince yourself of things in order to get as motivated as possible.. The best athletes in the world have always done this..
well
I think it’s really sad that BJ would even bring up the issue of Frankie being rasied by his corner as an excuse. Even sadder to see people towing the BJ party line on this one. Even if they did do it to sway the judges, what’s the big deal, you always see corners yelling at their fighters to walk around with their hands raised to show that they thought they won…no one complains about that. But BJ makes out like Frankie is some sort of unscrupulous thief.
I personally don’t know what a person needs to do to " to remain a top tier fighter" but I’ve seen lots of guys like Couture who can lose and just say hey, he was the better man on this night. BJ seems to have an excuse for everything. A man with character does not justify everything that goes wrong in life, even if there is a valid excuse.
by H.I. McDunnough on Aug 27, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn’t bring it up as an excuse.. You guys are labeling it as an excuse.. He just said that is why he felt they did it… He didn’t say one way or the other that it did for sure impact the fight..You guys always take everything BJ says out of context.. He says a lot of stupid things…but in this case, he was the champ and he has the right to feel upset w/ his corner doing that before the decision was announced… Couture says that because he loses just about as often as he wins..he would run out of excuses…lol jk
lol
I was thinking the same thing about Couture when I wrote that.
Not sure I agree with your interpretation of BJ’s words as NOT being an excuse. But whatever, he’s a great fighter and fun to watch and the controversy he creates is alright with me to.
by H.I. McDunnough on Aug 27, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's face it...
The first fight, if BJ would have been “damn” motivated should never have gone to the judges, yet alone should BJ have lost. But his apparent lack of giving a shit from time to time provides him with a loss. I get tired of seeing this guy come in unmotivated, or whatever, and then lose, then he’s all of the sudden motivated. What drama…he should have disposed of Edgar awhile back and moved on to some better competition. Taking nothing away from Edgar, but he is just not in BJ’s league. But, that all depends on how “motivated” BJ is for this fight.
question.
so who, in your opinion, is in BJ’s League if the guy that just beat him is not?
This is becausse...
If he loses again, he can say “Damn, maybe I rested a little too much.”
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez
He's just talking sh^t
He stated already that he believes he trains hard and him not training hard is a myth created by the Primetime on Spike when he faced GSP. Don’t take every word so seriously before a fight you guys. Edgar will have better cardio no doubt will it matter?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
He just means that he's not over trained and going to be 100 come Saturday
Frankie had a hard time with BJ last time and squeeked out a decision that he shouldnt have won to be honest.The first 3 rounds were all BJ popping Frankie on the feet as he came in.Frankies no mystery now,BJs going to clip him on the feet this time and finish it on the ground.Its going to be a sad day for Jerz thats for sure.
Fedor "The Last Can Crusher" Emelianstinko finally falls at the hands of a washed up UFC Contender...the Irony:)
Yeah, overtraining is bj's biggest problem,
I think bj loses again.
by Conan the Barbarian on Aug 27, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Florian knows better than anybody rite
Thats why he got taken into the championship rounds and choked out doggy style.Bjs going to tax that ass even more dynamic than the last time and im gonna come back to talk my shit the following day like i always do…Vintage Legacy style kids;)
Fedor "The Last Can Crusher" Emelianstinko finally falls at the hands of a washed up UFC Contender...the Irony:)
BJ
is so lucky Mass removed double weight ins for the fight. Frankie wouldnt have a problem with it because he is naturally a smaller guy, but BJ, out of shape and hungry for a day would be more drained than when he was sick in the middle east.
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