MMA Quick Quote: Chad Griggs loves it when a plan comes together to beat Bobby Lashley
by MMAmania.com on Aug 22, 2010 12:48 AM EDT
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"He's a big man. It was tough, but my corner was talking to me, telling me that he was going to come hard and take me down, so I was just staying calm on the bottom. I felt him working hard, getting tired. Every time he posted up I was moving my hips, trying to make him hold onto me. I was hammer fisting him -- I caught him with a couple of good ones. Every time he posted up, I'd catch him with something and he'd drop right back down. It's exactly how we planned -- he got tired.... His shots were getting weak and weak. I was able to stuff him and push him down, which is exactly what we planned on doing."
-- Hired can Chad Griggs talks about his stoppage of the previously undefeated Bobby Lashley at Strikeforce: "Houston" last evening. No one, except perhaps his 15 family members in attendance at the Toyota Center in Houston, Texas, gave the "Grave Digger" much of a chance to beat, much less pound out, the former two-time WWE heavyweight champion. But his corner apparently saw a weakness in the "Dominator" and exploited it, demonstrating that he still has a long way to go before even sniffing a title shot. Brock Lesnar he is not. Not now, anyway. Is this an experience that will motivate Lashley (who was reportedly carted off on a stretcher backstage) to train harder and propel him to the next level or will he forever be nothing more than a hulking sideshow?
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Bye Bye Lashley. All the talk about wanting a title shot and u can’t even beat this guy. Real fighting is just a bit different then all that fake B.S. that u are use to. Go home go way and leave the real fighting to the men who actually can take a few shots and not gas out in the 2nd round
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by Das Butcher on Aug 22, 2010 12:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hey Paul
THanks for that. Pretty much sums up what I was trying to get across. Go back to WWE lashley
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by Das Butcher on Aug 22, 2010 1:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think he was mentally broken..
Cause the cut and gassing never really seemed as bad as he made it seem..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
Nothing like a gassed wrestler who can't get the takedown.
They should just sit and start butt scooting.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 22, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 22, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
it sucks because he ended up getting him like that didnt he?
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Lashley needs to work on his submission game.
He could have finished the fight with a sub a few times.
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Ive always thought wrestlers should work alot on their sub game
There already great at taking people down and controlling position… Working on subs would seem like an obvious progression… But so many of them just dont adapt good bjj games, like fitch for example.. If fitch had good sub skills he wouldnt be so boring.. And chael sonnen would be the MW champ if he had good Bjj..
I just dont think lashley will ever be a real good fighter, he has made almost NO real progression in 2 years.. And he doesnt look like he wants to fight when he’s in a lil trouble.. you cant teach toughness and heart
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by Red Eye Jedi on Aug 22, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Same goes for king mo,
his stand up game sucks! You can’t be a one skilled fighter anymore. But it’s refreshing to see that wrestlers have not completely taken over mma, for now.
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they are coming very close though
especially in the UFC
Brock
GSP
Edgar
thank god for Silva and Shogun
you also have the number 1 contenders
Valasquez
Evans
Sonnen
Fitch
Arm.bar.bandit saw me slow dancing with Anderson Silva. I had my hands on his ass.
not so fast
GSP is a karate fighter and comes to the ring in a karate gi, he never wrestled in college or even high school. He is a good wrestler but his base is Karate. Edgar is also a good boxer, he beat Sherk and BJ with stick and move boxing. Shogun, Andersonson, Rampage, Machida, Dos Santos, all strikers. It is a mixed bag in the UFC as it should be and the ones who are the most well rounded like GSP fair the best.
Do I need to remind you that Brock slapped on a picture-perfect head and arm choke for the win his last time out?
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
And Brocks ground game is exciting, infact more exciting than Silva's stand up.
And I like watching Silva but I think Brocks game is much more exciting. Sonnen is another wrestler that is exciting as GSP is too they are always active.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
you're right hatteras
I should of known.
it is clear that GSP’s main style of fighting is karate, you can tell by the way he comes in with his machida style stance and keeps every fight on the feet to implement the obvious style that is karate.
I believe he wants to represent Canada in the Olympics and face off against the best karate fighters
Arm.bar.bandit saw me slow dancing with Anderson Silva. I had my hands on his ass.
and I'm not saying they are all boring and one-dimensional
I’m just saying that the people i have listed are mainly known for there wrestling
Arm.bar.bandit saw me slow dancing with Anderson Silva. I had my hands on his ass.
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Brock
GSP
Edgar
thank god for Silva and Shogun
To me thats sounds like you don’t like wrestlers? Or are you just glad that there is more than wrestling?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
i’d rather watch Jeff Curran on the bottom work for countless subs and sweeps than GSP or Fitch or Lashley or Chad Mendes lay on top of some dude for the better part of however many rounds. period.
too bad the refs let them do it and then judges award them the rounds based on top control only.
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by theworldsoldestsport on Aug 22, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The part about top control does not go towards GSP he stays active. Look at his opponnents face after the fight
He could of easily finished the HArdey fight to, but assumed he was going to tap instead of following through until the ref stopped it.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
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King Mo’s stand up sucks? He did well against every opponent tell know in the stand up including gegard, he may of been losing the stand up against Gegard but he wasn’t getting owned and he has the power to KO. Mo only has fought one guy thought of as a top LHW and that was Gegard before this fight. A loss like this will help Mo improve.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
The loss will help him,
but his stand up is what loss him that fight. He depends too much on his wrestling for my taste, and does not look for any subs. He needs to improve on becoming a more complete fighter but I do believe he will, he just needs to stop training with Toney.
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I think when you don't have a lot of experience you will fall back on your base.
I think we will see him improve fight to fight, he still needs to work on his endurance so he can be more aggressive on the gound if he is going to rely on his wrestling as his bread and butter though.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
fitch first needs to learn how to pass a guard. Or atleast try and pass a guard. Then we can talk about subs
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lots of wrestlers don't like going for the submission
because if it fails, they could lose their dominant position
Right.
Submission attempts invariably sacrifice position and control. An armbar, triangle or guillotine completely sacrifice the positional contest in favor of the quick finish.
You usually don’t see wrestlers put in hooks for this same reason. Remember Brock vs. Herring? Chael vs. Anderson? They don’t put in hooks because it gives the bottom opponent a way (foot) to attack the hips for a reversal or stand-up. They stay in classic wrestling top position, swiveling from side to back position which gives them the perfect counter opportunities to a roll or attempt to stand.
Wrestling and BJJ are totally different animals. They look similar, but their goals are totally different. BJJ looks to bring about a finish as quickly as possible, while wrestling teaches how to reach and maintain a dominant position without providing opportunities for reversal.
I do think we haven’t seen anything close to the ‘perfect’ blend of the two approaches, but in their pure forms it’s pretty clear that wrestling and BJJ are like oil and water.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
Ouch.
SF really got hurt by this one. And here most of us were thinking Lashley needed more of a challenge…
Hadoken!!
Dude has worse endurance than Hendo :D
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
mat hamill has heart and it will be on display when he fights tito.
lashley just plain embarrassed himself. anybody think batista will be any different?
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 22, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice one wolfmanshowlforever
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
did it seem like there were more cuts than usual tonight?????
what kind of gloves does strikeforce use???
by Conan the Barbarian on Aug 22, 2010 3:38 AM EDT reply actions
The same kind Van Damme used in Kickboxer — dipped in tree sap and broken glass.
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There was an interesting post earlier . I dont recall what site.
It talked about how UFC gets it right by bringing in Stitch and Leon Tabbs to be the corner cutmen. It also talked about how bringing in Herb Dean and Mario Yamasake is very important to the Main televised fight card.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
bobby gassedly
I love how they introduced him as 2 time WWE world champion. Might as well just say he won a boxing title in the stage versioon of Rocky
by threatlevelmidnight on Aug 22, 2010 1:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lashley is fucking trash
Steroid freak with no heart or cardio or skills.
Just quit MMA u clown.
by Lester The Pimp on Aug 22, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions
The L word
it’s funny when people compare lashley to lesnar. lesnar has that kill switch. he didn’t show it in the first round much til the end of the first round with carwin (could have been nerves, ring rust, or he was truly overwhelmed), but every round he’s out there looking to finish with real aggression. lashley just does not have that same mindset. none of his punches seem hard. he has A LOT of work ahead of him, which makes it funny hearing he wanted a title shot next yr. maybe now he’ll actually see where on the food chain he is.
he seemed really out of it. i read he was really dehydrated afterward. when they asked him to stand up from top position, it was like shades of filho/ sonnen 2. and his eyes went buggy when he finally saw his own blood. or maybe he was just woozy? either way, not a good performance. actually, the scariest he looked in the fight was the stare down. ok, that, and picking up chad while they were both standing was pretty impressive. but i’m sure it only winded him more. good slam though.
bag on brock all you want, but he shows improvement in each fight. he’s an athlete with a desire to improve in all aspects, and it shows. sub win his last fight. his rematch with mir showed how to neutralize mir completely. he was being smart. i just don’t see any of that with lashley yet. it’s a shame. the more people succeed, the more great fights we get.
i thought it was funny too when they announced he was 2x wwe champ. really?? “he also has the honor and fire making badge from his time in the boy scouts”
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