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UFC Quick Quote: Jon Jones would move to heavyweight to beat James Toney up

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"It's funny. Someone asked me about the way I feel about James Toney and I just said that I think he's naive and ignorant by thinking he can stop Randy Couture's wrestling with a hand combination, I guess he took offense to that. He said he would slap me if he ever saw me at a UFC event. I'll let that guy prove his own ignorance. Obviously slapping me he could face some assault and battery charges. How about this, get by Randy Couture first and then call me out, and we can settle it inside the Octagon. I would move up to heavyweight to beat him up."

Jon Jones spoke to The Daily Line on Versus about his growing beef with James Toney after his dominating first round victory over Vladimir Matyushenko at UFC on Versus 2. "Bones" is referring to this quote from "Lights Out" where Toney called him "Homo" and said he would slap Jones if he ever saw him. Jon seems to be pretty serious about putting a quick stop to the filth that has been pouring out of Toney's mouth for the last couple months. If in some miraculous fashion James manages to knock out Randy Couture later this month, who's interested in Jon Jones stepping up to heavyweight and stepping into the Octagon to face James Toney? 

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he won't get by Randy

Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 2, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Truth.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Aug 2, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he has a 1 in 10 chance

He could by some miracle knock him out but even if he caught Randy with a punch as long as it wasn’t a complete KO punch Randy would then have him on the ground and a win would be there within a minute.
I would love to see Jones KO Toney though.

by Syncro on Aug 2, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

he could pull a matt serra out of the hat and get a flash ko. either way, id love to see bones whoop up on him too.

never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do

by child on Aug 2, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Considering he never TKO'd anyone of value at HW as a boxer, I just don't see it.

He is a FAT 170 pounder, even in boxing.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

HW Boxer With 14oz gloves

almost guaranteed he sets his feet and rotates hips correctly and has power with 4oz gloves

by AintNoSunshine on Aug 2, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is accentuated by Handy's lack of a chin.

He got dropped by Big Nog and Nog is my favorite fighter of all time but who are we kidding – he’s not a power hitter by any means.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 2, 2010 3:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nog Has Really Crisp Boxing

So it wasnt surprising to see him Drop Randy. I dont know that is chin is suspect yet as all you would need to do is go watch the Gonzaga fight and he was cracked a few times and ate soem hard punches and head kicks. Also, he seemed alright in the Vera fight.

by AintNoSunshine on Aug 2, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know, Vera had him wobbling after the first strike and dropped him with a body kick in the second

Randy’s certainly not glass chinned but he’s not absorbing strikes as well as he once did, even guys not known for their power or technique are dropping or wobbling him. If James counterpunches Randy then he’s going down, Randy’s going to have to go for the takedown immediately because I don’t see him lasting very long with Toney on the feet just as James won’t with Randy in the clinch or on the ground.

"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion

by David W-S on Aug 2, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kick to The Body Doesnt Equal Chin

And Vera wobbled him sure but I would think Vera could have put a beating on his chin if it was suspect. I think his chin isnt as good as it may have been but I think he can eat some punches maybe not so much power strikes…

by AintNoSunshine on Aug 2, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Randy’s slowed down a bit and the punches he used to slip are now connecting cause the other fighters are at least equally skilled and younger/faster in the stand up.

your mother !

by RoBerto. on Aug 2, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Points.

I just dont think Toney who hasnt boxed in a meaningful fight in a while and will be making his MMA debut will have it come fight time to beat Randy.

by AintNoSunshine on Aug 2, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, it would have to be inside the 1st min of the fight.

your mother !

by RoBerto. on Aug 2, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Randy is not that stupid

Plus, Randy’s game is tailored made for taking out guys like JT. JT has great hands, but he won’t get to display this. Randy is going to whoop this guy like it is going out of style.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i see

randy going in and getting a quick double leg, then getting a gnp 1st round stoppage. still in this crazy sport of mma, there is a possibility that jt gets a good punch in. and toney does have quite a few kos on his record, and these gloves are much smaller and pack a little more punch

never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do

by child on Aug 2, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

true..

anything can happen in mma.

"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten

"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten

My Fav. Fighters List :)

1 - Alistair Overeem
2 - Wanderlei Silva
3 - Mauricio Rua
4 - Fedor Emelianenko
5 - Gegard Mousasi
6 - Dan Henderson
7 - Takanori Gomi
8 - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović
9 - Dan Hardy
10 - Kazushi Sakuraba

by DutchOzzy on Aug 2, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

its true

JT could catch him. I just don’t see Randy getting KO’ed. So even if JT catches him, Randy goes down, and JT does what? Swarms him with amazing GnP? I don’t think so. Even if Randy gets rocked, he will recover and still win.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

didnt Toney submit King Mo ?

"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten

"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten

My Fav. Fighters List :)

1 - Alistair Overeem
2 - Wanderlei Silva
3 - Mauricio Rua
4 - Fedor Emelianenko
5 - Gegard Mousasi
6 - Dan Henderson
7 - Takanori Gomi
8 - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović
9 - Dan Hardy
10 - Kazushi Sakuraba

by DutchOzzy on Aug 2, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

In training apparently

Not sure what you can read in to that.

by attakdog on Aug 2, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes he did, in training

but Mo would never have tapped if it was in a fight.

by stak on Aug 2, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a standing guillotine that Mo fell into

And Toney didn’t even know the name of the sub

Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 2, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

standing guillotine..

not bad for a boxer.

"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten

"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten

My Fav. Fighters List :)

1 - Alistair Overeem
2 - Wanderlei Silva
3 - Mauricio Rua
4 - Fedor Emelianenko
5 - Gegard Mousasi
6 - Dan Henderson
7 - Takanori Gomi
8 - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović
9 - Dan Hardy
10 - Kazushi Sakuraba

by DutchOzzy on Aug 2, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

you need to add a few asteriks next to that

b/c that supposedly happened in training, and it is questionable even there. Mo was likely showing him a guillotine or something. So Mo says “ok put your arm there, leg there, move your weight here, now squeeze….Ok. ok , I tap, let go” JT gets up…“I’s am der beast, nah one masses with James Toney, wheares my blickbelt? I get diz jitsuiy mastad”

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO at your impression....mastad, lol funny shit.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

sadly enough

im pretty damn sure that is exactly how it happened. and the rhetoric at the end there……are you sure that is not a direct quote?

never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do

by child on Aug 2, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

a quick double leg from couture?

that’s not going to happen. unless he, for some strange reason, decides to go against everything he has done in the past. he has always taken guys down via the greco clinch.

couture is going to do just enough boxing to close the distance and clinch up with toney, then put him up against the fence for a little dirty boxing, and will follow that up with a leg sweep takedown.

by stak on Aug 2, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

like randy's boy Tyson did against Gomi

My P4P Top 5:
1) GSP 2) Aldo 3) A. Silva 4)Shogun 5) Fedor

by Newfie3 on Aug 2, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's a little different when you know for a fact your opponent has no ground game

coming into his first MMA match

Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 2, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

very very true.

My P4P Top 5:
1) GSP 2) Aldo 3) A. Silva 4)Shogun 5) Fedor

by Newfie3 on Aug 2, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Youtube Toney vs Nunn and Williams......

yes that was a longggg time ago but any boxer as high ranked as Toney is or was has a chance to land something…..if this was 5 yrs ago I wouldn’t be worried but Randy’s chin has looked horrible lately…I’m just saying I wouldn’t be shooked if he landed something….

by Robert(1) on Aug 2, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same here

James may be old and overweight these days but lots of people seem to be forgetting that he’s coming into this fight with legitimate boxing skills, he’s light years ahead of Randy in the sweet science and if he gets the chance then he will KO him. James may play the role of a fool perfectly but that doesn’t mean that he won’t be a threat. Randy’s going to have to be smart if he’s going to win this one.

"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion

by David W-S on Aug 2, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

but he sure is making waves and marketing himself well.

He wont last in MMA and i think, deep down, he knowes this. SO hes talking as much shit and trying to create as much beef as possible to make that paper.

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm

i still dont know how the fight with Toney vs Coutoure will be.

think Coutoure will win for sure.

but we still dont know how good Toney trained his mma and how he will act in the cage.

will be interesting for sure.

"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten

"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten

My Fav. Fighters List :)

1 - Alistair Overeem
2 - Wanderlei Silva
3 - Mauricio Rua
4 - Fedor Emelianenko
5 - Gegard Mousasi
6 - Dan Henderson
7 - Takanori Gomi
8 - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović
9 - Dan Hardy
10 - Kazushi Sakuraba

by DutchOzzy on Aug 2, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

how good he trained his mma?

Toney is (was) a world class boxer. He has about 20-25 seconds at the start of each round (if it gets out of the first) to land something, thats it.

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toney is a missed 1-2 away from getting RNC'd

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pink Belly?

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

purple belly?

Someone tweet randy and ask for a Wet Willy- is that even legal? LOL!

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope, illegal poke. Toney would get up to 5 minutes to recover. lol.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

with a full cup, that would be brutal.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want the Randy to give JT the Tito treatment.

Have him rolled face first and then the spanking. i will die laughing if that happens

I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!

by dandeman on Aug 2, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

lmao

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

This is exactly right. Randy will retire him from MMA. Anyone who thinks otherwise is also in love with Kimbo. So there.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, what he said...

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bring the Kimbo lovers this way... *cracking knuckles*

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Aug 2, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Move up to beat Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Cain Velasquez… to beat Toney even Couture is in.

"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
''A man is not finished when he's defeated; he's finished when he quits'' Richard M. Nixon on Fedor's loss

by Eduardo Cruz on Aug 2, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

perfect.

I agree too, Jones went from prospect to contender last night.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Define contender? top 10? top 5?

He is really dangerous, but, I hate to say this, he is still a bit of a question mark. His last three fights went a total of what, 5 minutes? What happens wehn someone takes him down? What happens when he really gets punched in the face (Bonnar and Gusmao are such KO artists, huh?)? What happens when his gameplan gets stifled? Will these things ever happen? Probably not until he goes to HW.

He said on the after show that he was up to 231 at the start of camp and 226 upon cage entrance. He could probably take 6 months, gain 20 pounds and be devastating at 250, but he would still give up 35 pounds to Brock and Carwin.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think we'll definitely see him at HW in the future

6’4 230 and lean for his frame. But i dont see his next fight at HW.

hes needs a lilNOG/Franklin/Forrest/Couture for his next fight not an Evans/rampage/machida/shogun (let that be two fights down the road lol)

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

nooo.. not Evans !!!!… boring as hell XD.

nooo.. not Evans !!!!… boring as hell XD.

"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten

"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten

My Fav. Fighters List :)

1 - Alistair Overeem
2 - Wanderlei Silva
3 - Mauricio Rua
4 - Fedor Emelianenko
5 - Gegard Mousasi
6 - Dan Henderson
7 - Takanori Gomi
8 - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović
9 - Dan Hardy
10 - Kazushi Sakuraba

by DutchOzzy on Aug 2, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

won't ever happen. both at Jackson's

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

evans is gone

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh? when did that happen?

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

ANS mentioned that he was probably leaving. Something about McSweeney having a falling out so they’re both heading to Grudge full time.

by stak on Aug 2, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

via ANS

Rashad and McSwinney are already gone. Jardine is still at Greg’s and doesnt plan on leaving.

So Evans/Bones could happen.

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would be a really fun fight

Bring it on.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

we'll have to wait a year. SHad is waiting for ShoGun (so would i).

But itll be good when it happens!

this is what ShoGun’s 3rd knee surgery??? not sure he’ll ever come back to complete form. very sad.

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, an off topic and irrelevant story

hey quick unrelated and irrelevant side story. After much “effort” i have finally be warned by BE for this
Although you made some “valid” points thru historical comparison.
Johnny "Bones" Jones vs Chuck "The Iceman" Liddell TODAY, is one of the absolute, most idiotic sentences ive ever written in response to an article.

It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid.

I’m Not Afraid of Dying, I’m a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After…
by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 1, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions

IN REPLY to “Why Chuck Liddell should fiight Jon Jones Next” by new writer and avid shit storm creater Snowden.

lol

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by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

you got warned?

for what exactly? Saying someone made an idiotic statement? You didn’t even call him idiotic, just his statement? I don’t understand. On one hand they have so many trolls over there it is going out of style, and secondly they ban like it is going out of style. This reminds me of mma math, it just doesn’t add up.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

it said

Dont call writers names

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

you shoudl have responded and said

Reread my post, because I didn’t call the writer a name. You are implying that the writer is an idiot because he made an idiotic post. That’s on you.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i could only acknowledge and hit ok button, i wish i could have replied. i think its cause i wear Mania on my sleeve over there lol

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have made like half a dozen posts on there

and they always turn into troll-a-thons. People talking about Kimbo slice’s amazing ground game.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am learning that lesson

I was just over there on a slow day. Not even worth it then. So, are we supposed to be reccing comments for you to keep track of?

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only point them out for pure hilarity, wit or intelligence. Just like this classic one by OD starting shit about Kimbo.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Aug 2, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

so there mod's suck

and Kid Nate is supposed to be the man over there, no? Pretty sure he is a Kimbo LOVER. Nuff said.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell me you are joking.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Aug 2, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take it for what it is worth

but the last comment I saw him make said “Kimbo would take down James Toney and submit him in all likliehood”. It was funny to me that that is what he thought was the most likely scenario.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously you've never seen Kimbo vs Ray Mercer...

His ground game is excellent

If you need more proof ask OJR, he is definatley the biggest Kimbo I’ve ever run across and would know more about his training and expert ground skills. OJ always roots for Kimbo, die hard Slice fan.

Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 2, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You will suffer for this indignity, OD. Oh yes you will...

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Aug 2, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't reply to warnings. I wanted to for mine.

And Snowden is worthless. He has been fired from multiple “positions” for doing exactly what he does now on BE, creating shitstorms.

I can’t fucking stand his “op-ed” pieces. Just give me the news and let thte fans hash it out.

Do you hear me Holland? Don’t you fucking change.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The article suggesting......

Jon Jones fight Chcuk Liddell is just fucking retarded……………

O_o

by Dragon101 on Aug 2, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

See I was right!!

15 monkeys locked in a hall closet could write a better synopsis than Snowden. And i complaned about his writing not Snowden the person. Then they banned me, the bastards.

I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!

by dandeman on Aug 2, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, the writers they have for that site are a bunch of pussies. Good site for news and info…their opinion pieces suck dick though.

by HappyLittleTreez on Aug 2, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

unfortunately their oped’s are one of the reasons I won’t visit their site. the other is how they attack and ban anyone that posts a comment that they don’t agree with even if the comment was done in a totally respectful way.

by stak on Aug 2, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

DANA SMASHED KID NATE AND BE SITE

via tweets.

BE has a fanpost about it LMAO

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It shall be forever known to me as the BloodyCircleJerk.

by HappyLittleTreez on Aug 2, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

That said, they will even ban you over there for stuff you post on Mania. Happened to me, so it can happen to you too. Not that we should care, of course. As War Machine would say, Fuck a Bloody Elbow.

by Canucklehead. on Aug 3, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not too impressed with what I've heard about this Snowden guy

First he apparently wrote an article bashing the UFC for signing Shields and now this Bones-Chuck nonsense. Not impressed one bit.

"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion

by David W-S on Aug 2, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly!!

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He won't go to HW until he can't amke the cut any longer...probably in 4-5 years. Scary.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

imagine a 6'4 255lb with 85in reach and athletic and dynamic as him.

his brothers are built the same, HUGE, as well (pro ballers).

good genes there eh

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, as slim as he was last night, I could actually see him cutting to 265 at some point.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

4-5 years… then there will be also another problem.

Struve… i know for sure he will become 1 of the best also.

"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten

"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten

My Fav. Fighters List :)

1 - Alistair Overeem
2 - Wanderlei Silva
3 - Mauricio Rua
4 - Fedor Emelianenko
5 - Gegard Mousasi
6 - Dan Henderson
7 - Takanori Gomi
8 - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović
9 - Dan Hardy
10 - Kazushi Sakuraba

by DutchOzzy on Aug 2, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Struve will never be more than a gatekeeper.

To get his frame large enough to keep the Brock’s, Cain’s and Carwin’s of the world off of him will give him very little chance to make 265 and be effective. He is already 255-260 with very little muscle mass on his frame.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

well 5 years is allot of time

dont write him off yet.

he is the biggest dude now in the ufc.

"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten

"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten

My Fav. Fighters List :)

1 - Alistair Overeem
2 - Wanderlei Silva
3 - Mauricio Rua
4 - Fedor Emelianenko
5 - Gegard Mousasi
6 - Dan Henderson
7 - Takanori Gomi
8 - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović
9 - Dan Hardy
10 - Kazushi Sakuraba

by DutchOzzy on Aug 2, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

not writing off. I like him. I am just being realistic.

He is on the verge of having to cut weight with very little muscle mass. He needs 50 pounds of muscle to keep from being overwhelmed by the big wrestlers at 265. So…he either needs to learn to cut 40+ pounds (possible, but doubtful) or he needs to accept that he will never be elite.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude i know

understand everything ur saying man.

but . u never know what will happen in the future =)

"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten

"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten

My Fav. Fighters List :)

1 - Alistair Overeem
2 - Wanderlei Silva
3 - Mauricio Rua
4 - Fedor Emelianenko
5 - Gegard Mousasi
6 - Dan Henderson
7 - Takanori Gomi
8 - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović
9 - Dan Hardy
10 - Kazushi Sakuraba

by DutchOzzy on Aug 2, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

like him shrinking?

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

u never know XD

lol

"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten

"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten

My Fav. Fighters List :)

1 - Alistair Overeem
2 - Wanderlei Silva
3 - Mauricio Rua
4 - Fedor Emelianenko
5 - Gegard Mousasi
6 - Dan Henderson
7 - Takanori Gomi
8 - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović
9 - Dan Hardy
10 - Kazushi Sakuraba

by DutchOzzy on Aug 2, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

what is the "XD" for?

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

XD

Conan : You are known as a striker. Is that correct? Tell me what that means.
Chuck : Well I like to punch people, or kick them.

by DAFTMANIA on Aug 2, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it a happy face with the eyes crossed?

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

DUHH.. XD

Conan : You are known as a striker. Is that correct? Tell me what that means.
Chuck : Well I like to punch people, or kick them.

by DAFTMANIA on Aug 2, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol.

"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten

"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten

My Fav. Fighters List :)

1 - Alistair Overeem
2 - Wanderlei Silva
3 - Mauricio Rua
4 - Fedor Emelianenko
5 - Gegard Mousasi
6 - Dan Henderson
7 - Takanori Gomi
8 - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović
9 - Dan Hardy
10 - Kazushi Sakuraba

by DutchOzzy on Aug 2, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

like a dead happy face?

I don’t get it either.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

like this?

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

more like

Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 2, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

it could be

the sign for a dude that dies in the sack.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know that is how I would like to go!

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

come foking on !

u guys never saw South Park..

Fatass Cartman with his XD laughing face

"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten

"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten

My Fav. Fighters List :)

1 - Alistair Overeem
2 - Wanderlei Silva
3 - Mauricio Rua
4 - Fedor Emelianenko
5 - Gegard Mousasi
6 - Dan Henderson
7 - Takanori Gomi
8 - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović
9 - Dan Hardy
10 - Kazushi Sakuraba

by DutchOzzy on Aug 2, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love that show

watch it when I can. I have never seen that. So is this what it is like to feel old? Don’t get the kids jokes anymore. Dammit.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Deuce - I already have my plans for when I turn 50. Going out with a bang - literally.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Aug 2, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

viagra and 12 strippers on the roof of the Mandalay Bay?

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha!

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Viagra, 2 Vida Guerra look alikes and 12 Red Bulls while listening to Bon Jovi's Blaze of Glory.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Aug 2, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get Red Bull. Can't choke the shit down.

But If I am going out, the Viagra and an 8 ball would do me just fine, my friend.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

for the end of the world

hell yeah, Bring it on. In reality though, that stuff is the devil.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Red Bull

everyone can get down with a little blow and Viagra.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

WAR VIAGRA

that caught with a hand in the cookie jar face

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he puts on just 20-30 lbs of muscle he'd compete just fine at HW

The kids 6’4 with 84" of reach; his frame is just as big or bigger than most HW’s, I guarantee he can put on that muscle if it ever comes down to it.

Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 2, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

we were talking about Struve, who is 6'11"

I think Bones could pull the VEra and win both 205 and then 265 straps. 20-30 pounds of muscle is nothing for Bones’ frame. He will probably end up at 265 or so before he is done.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn you... forcing me to go back and read...

Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 2, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry for the tangent.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is young and talented

but like Ulf says, he can’t really put on any more weight and he will get rag dolled by those beefy guys.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

A bit of a question mark, yes

Contender as in right around top 10, he may be just outside, I would like to see him in there against a Franklin type and then, we will know for sure.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel sorry for the next guy he fights. Too bad Bisping isn't still at 205.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is just mean

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm ok with that.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now that's a Bisping main event that I'd pay to see

"Stay classy San Diego"
Jon "Bones" Jones, MMAs best young fighter and the next LHW champion

by David W-S on Aug 2, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 2, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jones has became the beast.

hes seriously dangerous

"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten

"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten

My Fav. Fighters List :)

1 - Alistair Overeem
2 - Wanderlei Silva
3 - Mauricio Rua
4 - Fedor Emelianenko
5 - Gegard Mousasi
6 - Dan Henderson
7 - Takanori Gomi
8 - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović
9 - Dan Hardy
10 - Kazushi Sakuraba

by DutchOzzy on Aug 2, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow this dude really is a snitch.

If he gets slapped he would file charges? Why don’t you be a man and slap him back..

by HappyLittleTreez on Aug 2, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

don't start...;)

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

another Jones pot thread to come.....

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Aug 2, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah thats what a MAN would do

arrr arrr arrr
(in my tim the tool man taylor voice)

My P4P Top 5:
1) GSP 2) Aldo 3) A. Silva 4)Shogun 5) Fedor

by Newfie3 on Aug 2, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Id gladly pay to see a death in the octagon.

Toney needs to learn some respect or it will just get beaten into him.

"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.

Arm Triangle possibly the most underrated submission in MMA as proven by Brock Lesnar

by JamPark on Aug 2, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

be careful what you wish for...

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't need to wish for it. Toney won't even make it past Couture and then he will quit and attempt to go back to boxing.

"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.

Arm Triangle possibly the most underrated submission in MMA as proven by Brock Lesnar

by JamPark on Aug 2, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was talking about the death in the octagon. We could lose our sport if that happened on National TV.

Google Duk Koo Kim.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Aug 2, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasnt actually being serious, i just really cant stand that guy. Comes into a sport that he hasnt competed in and trash talks a legend of the sport.

He will learn to respect mma one way or another.

"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.

Arm Triangle possibly the most underrated submission in MMA as proven by Brock Lesnar

by JamPark on Aug 2, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

you would pay to see someone get killed in the octagon?

you’re sick

My P4P Top 5:
1) GSP 2) Aldo 3) A. Silva 4)Shogun 5) Fedor

by Newfie3 on Aug 2, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am. He will probably die of a heartattack anyway the fat slob or maybe drown in his own sweat.

"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.

Arm Triangle possibly the most underrated submission in MMA as proven by Brock Lesnar

by JamPark on Aug 2, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am. He will probably die of a heartattack anyway the fat slob or maybe drown in his own sweat.

"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.

Arm Triangle possibly the most underrated submission in MMA as proven by Brock Lesnar

by JamPark on Aug 2, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am i the only 1 that thinks jones has a bitch ass attitude?

He’ll press assault & battery charges? For real =D. Dam I hope they throw jones in there with a killer next time who gives a shit of he’s young!

by d*locc on Aug 2, 2010 1:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Not the only one..he’s trying to hard to look like a saint. I think the success is going to his head and I can’t wait for someone to lay a beating and send this kid back to earth. I hope he outgrows 205 and is stuck fighting some of the monsters at HW. Brock Lesnar would eat this kid.

He looks like the type who would crumble if he ever got hit hard. He might be able to dish it out but I gurantee he won’t like it when someone can do the same to him.

by HappyLittleTreez on Aug 2, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think he has a bitch ass attitude. Humble and very sheltered yes, but bitch ass no

He has admitted himself he grew up extremely sheltered. He wasn’t allowed to play with others and was forced to only play with is brothers and occupy himself at home. He grew up in a very religious household and his parents were very strict. I think his attitude comes from his upbringing. The “assault charges” comment brings that situation to mind. It wouldn’t surprise me if his dad still lectures him everyday and is harping on him about how to act and carry himself. Remember, he is STILL ONLY 23. I completely understand your point and where you are coming from, but I don’t hold it against him and attribute it to certain things.

On a side note, am I the only one fascinated by the fact that he never looks in his opponents eyes before the fight. I find it interesting

by fightfan51 on Aug 2, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

D*locc

u are seriously foked up.

"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten

"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten

My Fav. Fighters List :)

1 - Alistair Overeem
2 - Wanderlei Silva
3 - Mauricio Rua
4 - Fedor Emelianenko
5 - Gegard Mousasi
6 - Dan Henderson
7 - Takanori Gomi
8 - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović
9 - Dan Hardy
10 - Kazushi Sakuraba

by DutchOzzy on Aug 2, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

For real? Jones duznt come off as d-bag goody 2 shoes?

Or u think he shudnt fight some1 like machida, page, or silva?

by d*locc on Aug 2, 2010 3:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

class & respect for MMA

Bones isn’t smug… he’s intelligent. He is also a professional fighter. That means he doesn’t fight unless he’s getting paid. If Toney slaps him outside the ring, he presses charges…. as a professional athlete should. If Toney TRIES to slap him in cage, he gets his arrogant MMA ignorant ass handed to him, & Bones gets paid. But, as Bones said, that aint gonna happen, because we all know what happens when Toney gets in the cage with Couture.

by Erbros on Aug 2, 2010 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

He's got cardio in a boxing match

The second they get into the clinch it’s over; IF Toney somehow manages to get away and create some distance he’ll be gassed after the first 3 mins given the pace Couture sets. Grappling just isn’t the same. His only chance is a flash KO cause the second Randy gets his hands on him he’s through.

Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

by O damn he got caught on Aug 2, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't believe Fat Toney called him out like that...

You have to wonder if he did that on purpose, trying to sell himself more to Dana or something…..

by BrockRocks on Aug 3, 2010 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

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