Thiago Alves: I can see clearly now, nothing's holding me back
by Jesse Holland on Aug 18, 2010 12:05 PM EDT
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"I had a chance to look back at the situation. I know I have things to correct ... It was just a half-pound, so I'm sure my body could have flushed it out. But I didn't want to. I just wanted to concentrate on the fight. It was just easier for me to give up the money. Yes, we fight for money, but you also fight to win, and at the time, I was thinking I didn't want to cut the weight. I was just focused on getting ready to fight. When you're cutting weight and dehydrated, you don't always think right. In the future, that won't happen again. It can't happen again ... I appreciate the support I've gotten. When things like this happen, you see people's true colors. I don't care about the people who've turned their backs on me. I just focus on the ones who appreciate me. That's what's important to me and I won't let them down. I'm going to take this thing to the next level. I'm going to make it happen. I know what I've been through and I see things clearly now. Nothing's holding me back."
Former UFC welterweight number one contender Thiago Alves is ready to put his weight cutting issues behind him after coming in slightly over the limit for 170-pound scrap with Jon Fitch at the UFC 117 event on Aug. 7 in Oakland, California. "Pitbull" insists he belongs at welterweight, but has had a difficult time proving it. Even promotion president Dana White is pushing for a move to middleweight. Has the Brazilian put his demons behind him? And can he recover from back-to-back losses and get back into the division title hunt?
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How can we take you seriously
when you don’t take your division seriously.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Exactly
what I was thinking. He says things like this show people’s true colors and that people turned their backs on them. Seems like this shows his true colors and by not taking his responsibility seriously he is turning his back on the UFC, his camp, and his fans.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Aug 18, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
On him.
Turned their backs on him. Dang I can’t concentrate today.
Do not. I repeat, do not, go to mma-core.com. I made the mistake of watching a couple UFC 108 bouts on there and I am still trying to get all the viruses of my computer. Ridiculous! You've been warned.
by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Aug 18, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
I wouldn’t recommend betting on this guy. I love how he says “it was only 1/2 a pound”, pretty sure you sound like a jackass saying something like that when that 1/2 pound was obviously too much for you. Oh, and the fact that you completely lied to all of your “fans” the day before the fight- “The weight cut has been easy. It’s one of the easiest times it’s ever been”. Oh really Thiago? Is that because you knew that you weren’t going to make it tough by actually making weight?
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
hes not getting any younger or smaller
185 FOOL!
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 18, 2010 12:09 PM EDT reply actions
Cant believe they were gonna give this guy a "shitle tot" if he won that one fight
That would have been a huge waste.
by Lester The Pimp on Aug 18, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions
huh?
Turn their backs on you? Why because you can’t make weight on numerous occasions? So now it’s our fault if we don’t like that, as fans? I think Alves is a beast and I like what he brings to the cage but seriously, stop making excuses and move up to middleweight.
Really?
We turned our backs on you Alves, we don’t back you?. Thiago, you have to realize you let down a lot of people who believed in you. You came overweight even though you had an oppitunity to get it off. You came back and clearly did not work on your TD defense a bit. You knew walking into the fight that you did not have a chance because of you obvious lack of prepreation. Don’t you think that the people who are sticking up with your shit wrong? that they should be also doubting your work ethic. You will never change because, you just enjoy the people around you praising you when YOU should know that its unwarranted.
BLAH BLAH BLAH; Same Damn Story Same Damn Channel.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
It was just half a pound guys...
sure, the cat came in 4 pounds over vs Hughes, but that was due to injury. If yall remember, that fight had 3 main events before it pull out. If Alves would have pulled out, the card likely would have been headlined by Bisping. Alves always goes out and puts on a show, and while the mentality of giving up money because its easier is kind of a shitty concept, I’m not going to start hating on him. I never was a real big fan of Thiago, but I like watching him, and if he can still fight at 170, then I fully support him.
I should never have doubted the wisdom of David W-S or the talent of Junior Dos Santos…and screw Dana White
i agree
Thiago is one of my faves and anywhere he goes I support him.
Alves lytle 2 pleasssse
SHOGUN SLAYED THE DRAGON! Hell Yeah
by Phenomenal Angel on Aug 18, 2010 12:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Alves has way too small a frame for MW. He just needs to stop ballooning up between fights and lay off the, err, supplements a bit.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 18, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
man Thiago is losing fans by the minute. Personally, i want to see him take a shot at 185, if it dont work out, go back to 170. Look at Diego, started 185, then 170, tried 155 and now back at 170. Dont know why Thiago wont give it a shot at least.
Shogun will have the longest championship reign in the UFC
yup
he whooped kennys ass at 185, and i think he had 2 other fights in ufc at 185.
SHOGUN SLAYED THE DRAGON! Hell Yeah
by Phenomenal Angel on Aug 18, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Alves has basically maxed out his frame in terms of muscle. Any more mass will be nothing but a detriment to his fighting abilities, and it actually looks to already have slowed him down. He needs to lose a bit of muscle and get to a walking-around weight of around 190-195. He also needs to get back to the lean Alves we saw last year, and stop spending his nights in South Beach clubs and his days in Taco Bell.
His reach and height are already below average for 170. The guy is already getting manhandled by the WW division’s best wrestlers — at 185 he will be a borderline can.
To everyone who really believes this guy belongs at 185… check out the pre-fight UFC 117 presser where Alves is sitting next to Sonnen and laughing at all his one-liners. Look at the size difference between them. If you still think those two guys belong in the same division, you might be kind of retarded.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 18, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe in Alves
The man is only turning 27 this year and just went through brain surgery before fighting the #2 WW in the world!? Now becasue of his past issues what needs to made clear to him is he’s on his last chance and the UFC should have a fighter waiting to take his place if he doesn’t make weight for at least his next two fights. A Dan Hardy and Alves fight would be awsome!
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I agree with Alves on the fact that...
half a pound is nothing… 1 duece can change the scales 6 lbs in one direction. I’ts not like he was 176 or something. I was still going for my boy Fitch either way, and Alves is doing the right thing becuase he is too short for MW.
Also, is it just me or did he look a lot bigger and stronger in his Kos and Hughes Wins??
Uh bro, if you’re taking six-pound dumps you might want to notify Guiness.
And then a doctor.
"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."
Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)
by Jeremyjackson on Aug 18, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
...the rain is gone, I can see all obstacles in my wayyy
Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.
what about fighting like crap....
due to the fact that you have to lose so much weight!! its the not the numbers on the scale, its what it does to your body, I’m not paying for half decent efforts, I want 100%…its our money!!
Nice, he pulled the "true friends" card
That’s code for “I screwed up really bad, and I appreciate the few dumb suckers that will keep blowing smoke up my butt.”
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
I'm ready for all the athletic commissions to adopt New Jersey's weight rules
13% max weight regain after your weigh-in. That would cut this crap right out.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Aug 18, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions
Excuses, Excuses...
Fuck this guy…He’d have a point being upset if fans were turning on him if this was the 1st time, it’s not…I can’t remember if it’s 2 or 3 times not to mention using illegal drugs to cut weight.
Someone with that many problems making weight on a consistant basis should be closer to their respective fighting weight. I mean forget missing, how many times has this fat fuck (haha) come in at 171? That doesn’t cut it for a title fight anyway…Lately the biggest suspense in his fights is whether or not he makes weight. You can almost here everyone in the building collectively hold their breath when he gets on the scale whlie watching his entourage close their eyes and cross their fingers hoping he makes weight…
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