UFC Quick Quote: Did Vince McMahon inadvertently help drive TUF ratings?
by Jesse Holland on Aug 17, 2010 10:52 AM EDT
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Former wrestling deity Paul Heyman seems to think so in his interview with The MMA Hour.
"I was there in the room when we decided whether to let The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) come on after Monday Night Raw. They had the right to approve or decline any programming that followed them. I told [the WWE], they better not let [the UFC] on ... Yeah, I'm the a--hole that almost turned it down. [I said] 'You should be afraid of anything that will take away from your pay-per-view dollar. They are going to reach into your pocket, rip it open, and all those dollars are going to flow right there.' Here's the best way I can tell you about Vince McMahon. It's the ultimate Vince control story. If you're in the room with Vince McMahon and he sneezes, go on your Blackberry for the next 20 minutes because nothing you say to him is going to get through ... Cause he gets really p-----d off. Cause he can't control the sneeze."
WWE czar Vince McMahon didn't see the need to overrule Spike TV's decision to air the inaugural season of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) immediately after the wrestling companies flagship program RAW, despite the outside chance that somewhere down the road it could draw blood from McMahon's viewing audience. Paul Heyman, housed under the WWE banner at the time, sent up a red flag that was ultimately ignored. Now that MMA has surpassed the WWE in overall pay-per-view buys, does McMahon have any regrets? And will his ego allow him to?
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Vince should fight Dana..that is all
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Biggest PPV in ufc or WWE history lol
"Matt Hughes is the greatest welter weight of all time; I would lick the sweat off his hairy chest after a grueling work out if I could. The only person I look up to more than Matt Hughes is Jay; he’s trying patiently to teach me about MMA, being as I don’t know shit about the sport. Thanks Jay, you are my hero and one hell of a Canadian."
Tito Ortiz's second career = WWE. Talk on the mic, have people laugh at him and put in a half assed performance. Perfect.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
thats jobs already been snatched up by Shammy
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Aug 17, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
will trade tito for paul heyman. heyman sounds like a good guy to build publicity for ufc ppv's.
plus when i did watch wrestling his extreme wrestling promotion kicked azz. i remember i think sabu jumping onto raven with four tables above him. it was so long ago i might have the fighters mix up too. they fell one at a time. it was off the hook. from a balcony no less.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 3 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 17, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
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and I think when Vinny Mac dies or retires, Junior will invest in MMA anyways
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I heard his kid is CEO of some operation in China. His daughter is running the wrasslin' show.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I think Shane is still involved with WWE...he trains, loves, and has attended UFC events before
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Aug 17, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
UFC hired him. He works for the good guys now.
The next Heavyweight Champion of the UFC(therefore the world), Junior Dos Santos.
really jay?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Aug 17, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
For reals. Hang on, I'll find you a link.
The next Heavyweight Champion of the UFC(therefore the world), Junior Dos Santos.
Maybe both OJR and jay are right
and he’s involved with the UFC China expansion lol
To me in this sport, it’s fighting, it’s mixed martial arts, and I feel there’s too many athletes and not enough fighters…I think these people going in taking these sports enhancement drugs, they’re not real fighters, they’re athletes. I’m a fighter. I’m a real fighter. That’s all I did my whole life. - BJ Penn
that would certainly make sense...
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Aug 17, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Can't find anything saying it's a done deal. I thought I saw it last year.
He wanted to buy some of the UFC, I thought they ended up hiring him and putting him in charge of Chinese expansion?
The next Heavyweight Champion of the UFC(therefore the world), Junior Dos Santos.
I found this.....
It seems old though and nothing set in stone……
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/291011-breaking-news-wwes-shane-mcmahon-meets-with-ufc
"Matt Hughes is the greatest welter weight of all time; I would lick the sweat off his hairy chest after a grueling work out if I could. The only person I look up to more than Matt Hughes is Jay; he’s trying patiently to teach me about MMA, being as I don’t know shit about the sport. Thanks Jay, you are my hero and one hell of a Canadian."
Yeah, he wants in, bad.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/11/23/1170939/shane-mcmahons-possible-role-in
The next Heavyweight Champion of the UFC(therefore the world), Junior Dos Santos.
It says this on his wiki though......
“On August 3, 2010 it was released that McMahon had signed a deal to become the new CEO of China Broadband Inc., a provider of cable broadband services, as well as other digital and analog related luxuries, in the Shandong Province of China. The Company is based in Boulder, Colorado”
"Matt Hughes is the greatest welter weight of all time; I would lick the sweat off his hairy chest after a grueling work out if I could. The only person I look up to more than Matt Hughes is Jay; he’s trying patiently to teach me about MMA, being as I don’t know shit about the sport. Thanks Jay, you are my hero and one hell of a Canadian."
ShaneDong or ShaneDog McMahon- which is the better nickname?
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Aug 17, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
My wrasslin' knowledge is word of mouth from my buddy who is a wrasslin' hardcore fanatic. He also mentioned Shane's love of MMA. Mac is right about that.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
and everything else for that matter
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Aug 17, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Lol
"Matt Hughes is the greatest welter weight of all time; I would lick the sweat off his hairy chest after a grueling work out if I could. The only person I look up to more than Matt Hughes is Jay; he’s trying patiently to teach me about MMA, being as I don’t know shit about the sport. Thanks Jay, you are my hero and one hell of a Canadian."
Way to represent, Jay. Love it.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
-1
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Aug 17, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Back to the matter at hand............
It appears that Shane-o mac would be good for the UFC. ALthough I don’t like the idea of him buying into the UFC, woould rather him just be an employee………
"Matt Hughes is the greatest welter weight of all time; I would lick the sweat off his hairy chest after a grueling work out if I could. The only person I look up to more than Matt Hughes is Jay; he’s trying patiently to teach me about MMA, being as I don’t know shit about the sport. Thanks Jay, you are my hero and one hell of a Canadian."
Why no buying in?
I don’t care if he owns some of the UFC.
The next Heavyweight Champion of the UFC(therefore the world), Junior Dos Santos.
Just don't want to many hands in the cookie jar..........
"Matt Hughes is the greatest welter weight of all time; I would lick the sweat off his hairy chest after a grueling work out if I could. The only person I look up to more than Matt Hughes is Jay; he’s trying patiently to teach me about MMA, being as I don’t know shit about the sport. Thanks Jay, you are my hero and one hell of a Canadian."
That makes sense. But they let that east indian dude buy some up.
He doesn’t seem to be making any major decisions, also Shane-O-Mac knows what sells. He could probably bring in a new flood of newbs.
The next Heavyweight Champion of the UFC(therefore the world), Junior Dos Santos.
We need more brock fans..........
like I need another hole in my ass lol
"Matt Hughes is the greatest welter weight of all time; I would lick the sweat off his hairy chest after a grueling work out if I could. The only person I look up to more than Matt Hughes is Jay; he’s trying patiently to teach me about MMA, being as I don’t know shit about the sport. Thanks Jay, you are my hero and one hell of a Canadian."
Two is plenty, huh, Dragon?
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Lol Agreed.
"Matt Hughes is the greatest welter weight of all time; I would lick the sweat off his hairy chest after a grueling work out if I could. The only person I look up to more than Matt Hughes is Jay; he’s trying patiently to teach me about MMA, being as I don’t know shit about the sport. Thanks Jay, you are my hero and one hell of a Canadian."
The more Brock fans the merrier.
And Ulf, there is more than two of us. THe Pain Train is packed.
The next Heavyweight Champion of the UFC(therefore the world), Junior Dos Santos.
everyone is hiding in the caboose.
Someone said " JDS is coming"
"You stay classey, San Diego!" Bones post Janitor beat down at UFCVersus2
Who's next?
by Bigger Zino on Aug 17, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
HA!
"Matt Hughes is the greatest welter weight of all time; I would lick the sweat off his hairy chest after a grueling work out if I could. The only person I look up to more than Matt Hughes is Jay; he’s trying patiently to teach me about MMA, being as I don’t know shit about the sport. Thanks Jay, you are my hero and one hell of a Canadian."
I meant he had two assholes...
his normal one and teh one he got from the reaming that created his sig…
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
+1
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Aug 17, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha. Too easy for the Mania PeaCOCK.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
-1
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Aug 17, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Surely not.........
"Matt Hughes is the greatest welter weight of all time; I would lick the sweat off his hairy chest after a grueling work out if I could. The only person I look up to more than Matt Hughes is Jay; he’s trying patiently to teach me about MMA, being as I don’t know shit about the sport. Thanks Jay, you are my hero and one hell of a Canadian."
It'll never work out between them..........
Shane wants to co-promote with the ufc lol
"Matt Hughes is the greatest welter weight of all time; I would lick the sweat off his hairy chest after a grueling work out if I could. The only person I look up to more than Matt Hughes is Jay; he’s trying patiently to teach me about MMA, being as I don’t know shit about the sport. Thanks Jay, you are my hero and one hell of a Canadian."
We'll start having more Tag team MMA matches
Remember seeing that on here before. That was one hilarious fight. It ended in a draw so they allowed all four to go at it. There was a 4 way submission going on at the end of it I think
Went to my first jits class. Don't think I was ever so happy with getting my ass handed to me
+1
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Aug 17, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
-1
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
+1
"Matt Hughes is the greatest welter weight of all time; I would lick the sweat off his hairy chest after a grueling work out if I could. The only person I look up to more than Matt Hughes is Jay; he’s trying patiently to teach me about MMA, being as I don’t know shit about the sport. Thanks Jay, you are my hero and one hell of a Canadian."
-1
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
i have seen him at a couple of shows in vegas.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 3 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 17, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Things are getting interesting.
Linda McMahon stepped down as the long serving WWE CEO last year. She was the one who got it to the IPO. She is now running as a republican for a senate seat in Conneticut.
Imagine a WWE Senator for a mom and WWE Shane McMahon behind MMA. Interesting turn of events. How long Before Vince aka “Mr. XFL” fires up another Tough Enough contest. Remember Bart Gunn vs Butterbean?
Come gather ‘round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You’ll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin’
Then you better start swimmin’
Or you’ll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin’.
"You stay classey, San Diego!" Bones post Janitor beat down at UFCVersus2
Who's next?
She won that seat, FYI. Saw it on a news blurb.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
+1
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Aug 17, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Got it. Thanks.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Election is in November...
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
I'll be voting for Linda Mac!! Who am I kidding? I dont vote, but if I did, I'd vote for LInda! There are signs for her everywhere here in CT
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Aug 17, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
that is my understanding. Lots more row to hoe.
but she has gazillions of money to buy it.
because in America – money = votes.
"You stay classey, San Diego!" Bones post Janitor beat down at UFCVersus2
Who's next?
by Bigger Zino on Aug 17, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
America - money + morons = votes
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
SEE: Obama, Barrack.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Or when McCain picked Palin as his running mate. That did it for me.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I was between a rock and a hard place...
knowing what would happen to Palin in a room with Vladimir Putin after McCain kicked the bucket….OR…a lifelong community organizer that had no leadership experience whatsoever.
UGH, I love US politics.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
rudy at the republican convention made me laugh with...
“community organizer”
Did anyone hear that Sarah Palins son in law (ex) or whatever he is these days is running for Mayor of Wasilla, AK
Crazy enought to work….
In America.
"You stay classey, San Diego!" Bones post Janitor beat down at UFCVersus2
Who's next?
by Bigger Zino on Aug 17, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I have a buddy that lives there...she is an ICON.
It is weird. This guy is as chill as they come, and I mentioned how underqualified Palin was and he nearly punched me.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
America Fuck Ya
This phrase works in all kinds of situations.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
yep
I used to be a big McCain supporter. I truly feel that if he hadn’t been screwed over in the primaries against Bush, he would have won a landslide victory. This last time around, he went nuts and no way was he getting my vote. Sarah Palin is a scary candidate. The thought of her getting into the White House makes me want to jump off a bridge. Makes me lose all hope in America.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I'd almost prefer to elect the Tina Fey version of Palin.
"You stay classey, San Diego!" Bones post Janitor beat down at UFCVersus2
Who's next?
by Bigger Zino on Aug 17, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Tina Fey is most definitely smarter than Sarah Palin
So, I would agree.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
they assumed Hilary would beat Obama
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Aug 17, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
UFC has definitely impacted WWE's PPV buy rates imo
UFC 117’s buy rate was pushing the 1 million mark whereas the last few WWE ppvs have been shoddy at best in terms of buy rates:
- Over The Limit: 197,000 buys, which is down from the 228,000 buys in 2009.
- Extreme Rules: 182,000 buys, which is down from the 213,000 buys in 2009.
-Fatal Four Way: 143,000 buys, which is down from the 178,000 buys in 2009.
These numbers are all way down from wrasslin’s heyday with the Rock, Stone Cold, etc.
Cross-over fans have a finite number of dollars to work with. My opinion is that they are choosing to spend $$ on MMA rather than wrasslin. Of course, the UFC isn’t the only factor in why ppv buys are down for the WWE, but I believe it’s had an impact.
Info from http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/publish/WWE/article10013354.shtml
Albino Mormon 4 Life
good post Dak. I like it.
"You stay classey, San Diego!" Bones post Janitor beat down at UFCVersus2
Who's next?
by Bigger Zino on Aug 17, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
It is the personalities that are lacking...
I knew wrestling when I was a kid…Hulk, Adre the Giant, Ricky Steamboat, Randy Savage, The Four Horsemen, etc…
I heard of wrestling again when the Rock and Stone Cold were wrestling, I even heard a little bit when Cena became big, but I couldn’t tell you who any knew personalities are, at all.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
the lost touch with the comin con element.
And the announces are absolutley terrible. We were talking about this the other day.
They need a Bobby Heenan or Jerry Lawlor (who is past his expiry date).
Im out for the day. Fishing for Lake Trout with the boss… not a bad day at the office.
"You stay classey, San Diego!" Bones post Janitor beat down at UFCVersus2
Who's next?
by Bigger Zino on Aug 17, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
They also went fully scripted especially in interviews
It used to be that wrestlers like the Macho Man, or Hulk Hogan or the Rock and Mick Foley wuld improvise on the fly their interviews and their says. Now they uses hollywood hacks for interviews in order to sell the fights.
These so called writers have no clue as to what sells the fight, we expect something simple, a personal insult here and there and flipping the middle finger.
But they want to turn it into super soap opera where one has a child with the other and has been personally injured and injured party must respond in “interesting manner”. They have devalued the belts more than ever.
Sheesh man keep it simple say
I want the title and this bitch is in my way!!!!!!
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
Dak - when are we seeing another one of your fanposts? Brock vs. Cain is a good reason for another one...
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Ya, there'll be one coming
a little while before Brock vs Cain. I’m planning a Super Hero themed one this time around.
Albino Mormon 4 Life
Dak - email me when you can.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
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