Ben Saunders released from the UFC following Aug. 7 loss to Dennis Hallman
by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 13, 2010 1:12 AM EDT
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"Killa B" announces the unfortunate news via his official Facebook page:
"Sorry everyone I tried to fight my best these past two fights but ended up getting outworked. The UFC has officially cut me. The good news is they told me to work on my wrestling and ground game and then come back. So that is all I am going to be doing, improving dramatically and show them I belong. Much respect to Swick, Fitch, and Hallman as they were the better men on those nights and have my full respect. To fight such names is a true honor."
Saunders had heart, stepping up for the Fitch fight at UFC 111. There's still a number of fights I'd like to see him in like Anthony Johnson, Dan Hardy and Phil Baroni.
Anyone else sorry to see him go?
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Wow..
I don’t think he should have been cut, in fact it did’nt even cross my mind. He did act kinda like a douche on his video where he saying “you can’t do anything to me bro” and shit like that almost made me dislike him even though he just won me over, either way I hope he comes back soon..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
losing to hallman sucks
but the fitch loss is excusable and he looked unbelievable in beating marcus davis.. he’ll be back i’m sure.
i think so
i dont know why you would cut this guy
he stepped up to fight the #2 welterweight on short notice
loss to hallman sucks, and like panthro said he demolised marcus davis who will never get cut.
My P4P Top 5:
1) GSP 2) Aldo 3) CHAEL SONNEN 4)Shogun 5) Fedor
it sounds like they just want him to get some grooming in.
The guy owns a couple of highlight reel KO’s… so he’s bound to return.
This just might be a way to manage him to improve his TDD and wrestling. He likely be back. Especially as a stand in.
"You stay classey, San Diego!" Bones post Janitor beat down at UFCVersus2
Who's next?
yeah his Marcus Davis destruction was awesome
I am a fan. Hopefully he comes back stronger.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
You do realize Hallman is probably the best opponenet he’s fought, right? Better than Fitch, imo.
Goldberg on Leben: One thing's for sure--he really did break that door on the Ultimate Fighter.
Rogan: uh...yeah.
youd take Hallman over Fitch?
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 13, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
absolutely.
Goldberg on Leben: One thing's for sure--he really did break that door on the Ultimate Fighter.
Rogan: uh...yeah.
I havent seen him fight all i know is he is a journey man with two wins over hughes
is his wrestling of THAT caliber?
i know he has quite a few losses all being t/ko and all his wins are sub/ud
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 13, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed frosnt1
hallman is back on the rise, he was winning against howard until he got ko’d in the last 10 secs of the fight
I don’t know if i would put him ahead of fitch but he is certainly a lot better than people think
Please don't ever let Carwin fight Big Nog! It would result in death
Can't decide who I hate more, Penn or Edgar
hallman is not ahead of fitch
and i am not a fitch fan, but at this point in their respective careers no way does hallman beat fitch. however i am looking forward to hughes-fitch 3
how high r u? is it me? that poll question dosnt make sense?
Lol..
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by DrewMoney$$$ on Aug 13, 2010 2:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Too much too soon
Should’ve fought on the UFNs more as he’s clearly not ready for higher calibre fighters. The cut will do him good as it will force him to improve or realise he’s not good enough.
Time will tell
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Aug 13, 2010 3:04 AM EDT reply actions
his wrestling and boxing are his only flaws.
his jitsu, kickboxing, and clinch striking is pretty good. unfortunately those are some glaring weaknesses. i actually met Ben a few years ago at the UFN in Tampa, and he seemed like a pretty down to earth guy. I watched the weigh ins beside him and talked about the matchups and stuff. Hope to see him get back.
I should never have doubted the wisdom of David W-S or the talent of Junior Dos Santos…and screw Dana White
I didn't like him
Giggling idiot. And he did lose 3 of his last 4.
I’m sure he wasn’t released on bad terms, so he just needs to work on the basics and then he can come back. He wasn’t ready for the big leagues.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
ha ha
Good post man
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Aug 13, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
He's retarded for taking that Fitch fight.
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by doonerthesooner on Aug 13, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions
i think that was one of those sitch e ations
damned if you do. damned if you dont.
"You stay classey, San Diego!" Bones post Janitor beat down at UFCVersus2
Who's next?
Agreed. If he doesn't take the Fitch fight and loses that night, he gets cut then, for sure.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
the ufc didnt ask him to take it they were lokking for someone to fight fitch to keep him on the card and Ben asked for the fight. So why would he have been cut for not fighting fitch?
not what i said...
Since he was cut after losing to Hallman, I was merely saying that he got one extra fight for stepping up to Fitch. It stands to reason that if he loses on the other card he cuts cut too.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Not fussed either way on this really
The guy did fight decent competition though. Then you’ve got the likes of Stephan Bonnar still employed with the company???? Double standards. Only so long you can dine out on one barn burner with Forrest Dump.
It just happens to be the barn burner that turned a company that had lost $55mm into a billion dollar organization...
Bonnar will NEVER be cut. He may be given a desk job at some point, or never booked to another fight, but DW will not cut him.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
We know all that Ulf
Doesn’t make it right though, such blatant favouritism and double standards dont sit well with me. Bonnar clearly isnt UFC worthy anymore. Mark Coleman anyone???
What defines UFC worthy?
Baroni is back. So is Coleman, and HUNT for Christ’s sake!!
It is not a double standard. Saunders has done nothing but run his mouth and beat up Marcus Davis. Bonnar was in “The Fight that saved the UFC”. There is a very big difference, and i, for one, think that DW remembering guys like Bonnnar is admirable.
I don’t care if he can still fight for a title, he is still a good gatekeeper, as witnessed by the Soz fight. When he is no longer a gatekeeper, he should be made a commentator, interviewer, ufc magazine copy boy, but he should get paid by DW for the rest of his working days. Same with Forrest.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
I tremble thinking of a world without TUF 1 considering Pride was only 2 short years away from the orgainized crime scandal. (which would have happened regardless)
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Well Coleman was cut, despite beating Bonnar!!!!
Hunt’s only in the UFC to honour a contract agreement with Pride. heavens knows why Baroni’s there.
I personally dont think he’s much of a gatekeeper anymore and he’s only fighting because of his name associated with one (albeit very important) fight. Anyone else with his recent record would be gone. I think there’s only so much slack that can cut you. I have no problem with him having a job for life, just dont think he’s good enough to fight for the UFC not when you look at some guys who are getting cut.
fair enough (and forgot about Coleman being cut).
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Personally i'm happy with bonnar in the ufc
I though his last fight against Krystof was great. I’m not sure why Baroni’s there, but I enjoy watching him.
"You'd best put seatbelts on your ears, Roy, cause I'm gonna take them for the ride of their lives."
Coleman makes me smile :-)
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Aug 13, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Unexpected
I was not expecting this. He only lost 2 in a row and is 8 and 3 (i think).You knock out Marcus Davis (which was his 2nd loss in a row) and Marucs sticks around? Nothing against Marcus, but if you cut Saunders, you should cut Marcus Davis as well.
In addition, Saunders’ last two fights he was out wrestled for three rounds… I mean who doesn’t go to a decision with Fitch?
If you can't wrestle at 170, you need to go get seasoning because you have ZERO chance at top 5, let alone GSP.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
how did hallman win?
I figured they’d give him at least one more chance..he stepped up and fought fitch..no shame in losing to the #2 or 3 best ww in the world…I thought he would beat hallman
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by salamagogo on Aug 13, 2010 11:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
lost UD and if i remember right one judnge even had it 30-26
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Aug 13, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
okie doke
Thanks bud
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by salamagogo on Aug 13, 2010 11:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
o well
after seeing him talk about hallman thats just karma………he should of just remembered what swick did to him and fitch before he started getting cockey and talkin shit about hallman
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A bit surprised to start with...
But think they are doing a Cory Hill situation with him…. sending him off to the lower leagues where he can improve and fight guys who aren’t going to outclass him. Then bring him back.
It’s actually the UFC’s fault. They fed him to Swick. Way too early for someone like Saunders. He should of continued facing guys with smaller records (Riddle, Osipzcak, Soto) or guys who are making their debuts for the company.
He’ll be back.
are they serious??
he steps up for them in the Fitch fight and then loses in a decision and they fire him, thats not cool. they keep a guy like dan miller who has like 2 boring wins and lost 3 times in a row but dont keep killa b who is a exciting fighter
Damn...
It;s almost like reading an obituary when some of these guys get cut. I really hate to see Killer B go. I think he just had a few unlucky fights. I thought he was gonna make it, especially after that beat down he put on the Wolfe kid. His MT in that fight looked better than anything we had seen since Silva vs. Franklin.
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