Fedor Emelianenko interested in 4-6 more fights, not interested in the UFC
by Jesse Holland on Aug 12, 2010 11:26 AM EDT
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"For now M-1 Global works with Strikeforce and we are concentrating on that, the contract is not over yet. So for now we don’t have any interest in the UFC. So far I feel very comfortable fighting, very good with my fighting, and I’m planning of fighting as long as I can physically. As far and I’m concerned we should discuss the possibility of signing another contract for 4-6 fights."
Former top ranked heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko doesn't sound like he's in any hurry to hang up the gloves following his surprise submission defeat to Fabricio Werdum (triangle choke) under the Strikeforce banner back on June 26. "The Last Emperor" has long been criticized for his failure to compete inside the Octagon where many of the world's top heavyweights are currently employed. Do another 4-6 fights interest you if they're held in Strikeforce? And can the San Jose-based fight promotion find 4-6 heavyweights to match him up with?
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Please, JH. No more. *tapping out*
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
haha. Oh wait, I get it…they are saying he’s #2 in the world.
by HappyLittleTreez on Aug 12, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought they were trying to prove
that they actually did pick Fedor’s nose, and they would each be posting the product shown on their fingers on Ebay shortly.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
by misterjonez on Aug 12, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn
This guy still knocking about is he?
Wake me up when he fights somebody relevant or grows a pair and signs for the big league.
by attakdog on Aug 12, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Now that Fabricio took him out
I’m not as interested in him coming to the UFC. I always wanted him to come over so that he would get beat, and his nutswingers would know that he isn’t invincible, but now that’s already happened.
by LJ. on Aug 12, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
same here.
I had always wished he would just to know where he stacked up….. but now I could care less. I hope he drowns his career in Strikeforce and retires.
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by DJ Pullout on Aug 12, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he will bounce back to his old ways after the werdum loss. his handlers (M-1) wont take risks like werdum again. i expect fedor to fight people like lashley, herschel walker, kimbo slice (people with names, but pose no threat.) its what he did before, and its what he’ll do again.
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
I'm going to start being the BE or KidNate of commenters, I'm just going to copy and paste your comments and say "I agree & Dana White sucks!"
A bet's a bet:
"The #1 Heavy Weight of the World Brock Lesnar!" – "All aboard The Pain Train Chug a Chug a Choo Choo!"
LOL
His whole situation with M1 is what really turned me off to him. He’s just a freaking puppet in the situation, and it’s lame!!
It really is.
I dont get how he can be content with himself. You think he sits at home thinking hes really number 1? Or do you think he doesnt really care and just wants to make a butt load of $$$?
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I think he would make more $$$ without them
The cut that M1 gets is WAY bigger than the cut that he gets if I remember correctly.
yeah, but they will kill his wife and family if he drops them, so…
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
I'm going to start being the BE or KidNate of commenters, I'm just going to copy and paste your comments and say "I agree & Dana White sucks!"
A bet's a bet:
"The #1 Heavy Weight of the World Brock Lesnar!" – "All aboard The Pain Train Chug a Chug a Choo Choo!"
The original plan was a solid one,
that being to create a fight brand (M1) that would endure after Fedor’s career is over. The problem is, nobody involved really knows about promoting a fight company, and the money has just kind of gotten siphoned off into semi-meaningless ventures.
I enjoy watching those M1 team fighting cards, but they’re absolutely a couple steps below what most of us are accustomed to watching in MMA.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
by misterjonez on Aug 12, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Probelm is they have noone besides Fedor
That baby Fedor flopped and gosh even on steroids he was ugly. Thus their problem they have developed no fighters, their fights are not of the highest quality, and M1 dicks around even after they sign a contract. example what does Coker have to renegoitiate after every god damn Fedor fight. Once you sign your done. But no! Not to M1, for them a contract is as good as toilet paper, it only works right once.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
Micah
can you really count that as bouncing back to his old ways though?
Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.
the guy fought zulu, coleman, hunt, lindland, hong man choi all back to back. yes, i would consider that his old ways.
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
I'm going to start being the BE or KidNate of commenters, I'm just going to copy and paste your comments and say "I agree & Dana White sucks!"
A bet's a bet:
"The #1 Heavy Weight of the World Brock Lesnar!" – "All aboard The Pain Train Chug a Chug a Choo Choo!"
Absolutely his old ways
It was different a while ago in Pride, but ever since he has been a joke. Yes nuthuggers I said a joke. I mean come on he ducked Overeem, ducked him.
He claims he wants to fight 4-6 more fights that is everyone in the SF HW division who means anything twice.
People seem to be forgetting that before the Werdum loss, Fedor was considered the best fighter in the world, whom no one could touch.
Now he get’s caught in a fly submission and people have lost all interest?
Don’t get me wrong, I was never really a big Fedor fan and have always thought that people said he was better than he actually was, but I find it strange that so many people have lost faith and labeled him as done or whatever.
I’d quite happily bet a lot of money on Fedor beating Werdum if they fight again. He made a mistake. Not likely he’ll make it twice.
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez
I'm in the camp that thinks Fedor's stock shouldn't have taken a massive hit
from being beaten by Werdum, but we also believe he was overrated at the time of the fight due to the weird tendency to overrate anybody who doesn’t step into the UFC’s octagon. Plus, he is an honest-to-God legend in the sport who at one point deserved every single accolade tossed his way.
Just not any more, and he hasn’t been who we think of for quite some time.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
Think the main reason a lot of people have lost interest
Is because Fedor’s made it abundantly clear that he will never compete on the biggest stage in the sport, so the anticipation of ever seeing him against Lesnar, Carwin, JDS or Cain in a big super fight is completely off the table. I think the only fight people are really interested in outside the UFC is Fedor vs Overeem.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I guess so.
Still though, he shouldn’t be getting so much shit for losing to Werdum. I agree that he needs to come to the UFC to be considered the best again though.
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez
Bandwagon MMA fans and most (not all) MMA writers only care about someone's last fight
If they’ve been winning they’re P4P #1 but if they lose, and it doesn’t matter who as Fedor’s loss has illustrated, they are overrated, washed-up cans who need to retire.
There’s no logic in any of it and neither is there logic in the whole pound-for-pound debate.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Aug 12, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
People have lost interest because the MYSTIQUE is Gone. The "Undefeated" Label is History.
He went from THE EMPEROR FEDOR to Just….fedor.
No one is invincible when you are fighting guys w/ this much talent…Anyone in the top 20 can submit you or knock you out if you make a mistake..That is why they fight the fight ..
Well i guess..
Thats why he never fights guys in the top 20..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
I love Fedor
but him taking 6 more fights in Strikeforce sucks.
The best they can do for him:
1. Reem
2. Werdum
3. Bigfoot
4. Bobby Lashley
5. Hershel Walker
6. Shane Del Rosio/DanielCormier/Lavar Johnson or a rematch with AA or Rogers.
When we could have:
1. Randy
2. JDS
3. Cain
4. Carwin
5. Brock
6. CC/BC/Mir
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
that is a very silly thing to say.
I am interested in it. Order doesn’t matter. But, Randy will ask for that fight more than any other. Randy is definitely good.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Randy is smart
his skills may have diminished, but he is still a good fighter, and would without a doubt have a good game plan for a fight with Fedor. He’s wanted it for a long time, and I’m sure he’s studied the hell out of Fedor.
that is some serious disrespect
to a guy who held belts in multiple divisions and is a UFC hall of famer. So everyone just sucked until recently? Funny.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I am not disrespecting..It is a fact.. You could ask him and he would probably say the same..He says all the time he is better then he has ever been
the dude is like 50 years old
I think it’s say his skills have diminished, but he compensates by being a smarter fighter.
what a dumbass..
I love how he backs it up but just simply saying “hes not that good”, well why isn’t he good? “Hes just not”", what a joke..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
You think Randy would say "I was never very good"
You make about as much sense as this picture.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
When talking about Randy Couture
saying “His skills havent diminished at all..he just was never that good” doesn’t make sense.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I don’t think he was.. and his 10 losses speak to that imo… He has lost over 35% of his fights… I am not sure how anyone thinks he was ever all that great…. He won at the right time… If he stepped into the cage as newcomer today he might not even make the UFC
At least he didn't spend half of his career fighting cans
How many of those losses came in title shots? The guy has fought for the title more than anyone in history, correct?
I don't need to look at his record
I have SEEN all of his fights.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
So how can anyone who only wins 2 out of every 3 fights be considered the best? He beat belfort ,ortiz and lidell once of 3 at lhw..
Again
I said Fedor was the best HW ever.
I said Randy is a legend who deserves respect. He is a world class fighter. A Hall of Famer, a two division champion. I said saying “Randy was never that good” is a retarded statement. Those were all of my points.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
god damnit bob
are you a james toney fan or something? how can you say randy was never that good? he never fights chumps and when hes lost, it has never been in humiliating fashion. plus, more than half of his fights have been for a ufc strap. you dont get to fight for it if you were “never really that good”
never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do
The real bob is here!!
That guy is a fucking douche, stop talking to him..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
Randy Couture fought the best comp he could get his hands on at the time
Ride the Tiger!
by doonerthesooner on Aug 12, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
fighting the best competition will get you some losses
I should never have doubted the wisdom of David W-S or the talent of Junior Dos Santos…and screw Dana White
by Synyster_08 on Aug 12, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Even in Texas Hold 'Em
you never start with better than a 3:1 advantage when going up against someone else who has a reasonable hand. At some point you have to accept that you’re going to lose some hands that you should have won.
Not everyone can be Dan Gable. And the people who are like Gable are legendary, sport changing figures who transcend traditional boundaries due to their accomplishments.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
by misterjonez on Aug 12, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I see where Jonez was going but I don't understand your somment Bob abbout the best not loosing.
Ride the Tiger!
by doonerthesooner on Aug 12, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Boxing, MMA, Tennis, Chess and Poker
are all combat sports of one stripe or another. And at the highest levels of those competitions, the odds are never (or rather, for the sake of integrity should never be) utter mismatches that all but guarantee a victory for one side or the other. That means there’s a real chance for the favorite competitor to lose.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
by misterjonez on Aug 12, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand..But we aren’t talking 1 or 2 losses.. Is Randy just the unluckiest fighter to ever live? No one else considered the best has that kind of loss percentage… He just got opportunities to fight for titles at the right time
In what weight class were most of those losses?
And who were they against? Tell me anothe LHW that has the success at HW that Randy has?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Exactly all HW's
He’s a LHW with enough talent to compete at HW and balls. So again what LHW has the success at HW Randy has?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
you keep confusing arguments here
the only time we were talking about stricly HW- was Fedor. The only time best HW was mentioned, it was in regards to Fedor. We are talking about Randy in general.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Randy is one of the best of his time
Wich right now makes him one of the best ever.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Being "the best" is always a disputed title
thats why they fight, to see who is the best. Randy is one of the few guys who has fought the top guys over and over again. At least he’s willing to fight the guys to be determined the best, instead of beating a bunch of cans and padding a record with easy fights
I should never have doubted the wisdom of David W-S or the talent of Junior Dos Santos…and screw Dana White
I agree with you.. It is a silly argument when I really think about it… I just don’t think that we will look back on him as one of the best fighters to ever live…
We will see him as a legend
And one of the best of his time. Who else will hold both the HW and LHW belt?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Bones?
He’s shown a desire to move up to HW, and he’s doing well enough at LHW right now.
Don’t mistake this for nuthuggery; I still need to see more out of him. This is merely on the subject of looking ahead.
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez
I don't think Bones will ever get the belt at HW
But there are a few match ups he can take thats for sure.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I agree.
Good post Syn.
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez
Great Post Syn
Your right anyone can pad their records fighting cans. Just like me, hey you looking at me funny huh mr soup, Fuck you Cambells; Side kick smash. Rd one total victory.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
Thats what many don't look at "who"
Record are decieving but many fans look at the record when judging and that is why boxers now are not fighting who the fans want to see they want the record over the fight. Wich is why in my mind the greatest fighter ever is Wandy who fights who the fans want him to fight not what their management believe is the best to fight as we all know your management wants the record wich = $$
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Yes he has 10 losses...
but they are all to the highest level of competition and were all hard fought fights.
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez
And most of them were at HW
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The only thing I see about Couture's game that's changed
is his diminishing chin. His handspeed, strength, conditioning and wrestling ability are all what they have always been. He just can’t take the punishment like he used to be able to, but it’s not like he ever had an Anderson Silva/Chuck Liddell/Brock Lesnar chin out there.
Just trying to contribute to the conversation, not addressing anyt specific statement..
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
by misterjonez on Aug 12, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
What would you like him to say??
“I think I’ve lost a step but I just can’t get myself to hang up the gloves.” riiiighhht… you know Chuck Liddell said the same shit about being in the best shape of his life and better than ever before his fights with Rashad/Shogun and Rich…
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The Randy fight has at least as much relevance as anything outside of Reem
that Strikeforce could line up for Fedor currently. And it would be a really interesting fight, even with Randy’s quickly eroding chin.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
by misterjonez on Aug 12, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
thats Randy's dream fight
and probably the one he would retire on. I am sure he would come prepared for that puppy.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Honestly, I wouldn't be as shocked about Randy
beating the hell out of Fedor as I was about Chael beating the hell out of Anderson.
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by misterjonez on Aug 12, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
You never know what opponet will cause problems for Fedor
But right now I would have my money on Fedor and I would feel pretty safe about it
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Oh, if anyone opened the lines with Fedor anything less than a solid favorite
should need their head examined. But Randy is more than capable of coming up with and executing a gameplan that nullifies Fedor’s biggest strengths and makes him fight where he’s least comfortable.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
by misterjonez on Aug 12, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don't see Randy being able to control Fedor in the clinch with his ridiculous Sambo background. Anything is possible, but I find it hard to imagine a Randy victory.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
The reason I would give Randy a theoretical advantage here
is because of how uncomfortable Fedor has looked near the fence. Fighting in rings is completely different to fighting in cages, especially when it comes to takedowns and GnP. We saw Fedor sort of get stuck when trying to do his standard spin-around-the-downed-opponent move after Werdum went to the ground, due solely to the cage.
In a ring, the border of the fighting area is far less relevant than in a cage. In a cage, every fight ends up against the cage if that’s where one of the fighters wants it. So the terrain isn’t even close to the same, and for a guy like Fedor specifically, it presents some stylistic hurdles he hasn’t shown the ability to clear. I’m not implying that he can’t, I’m just saying that we don’t have any evidence to support the notion that he could match one of the best wall fighters in the history of the sport at his own game.
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by misterjonez on Aug 12, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I completely understand what you're saying, but we really only have a very limited amount of informations to go off.
While Rogers did lean on Fedor against the cage, when the moment was right Fedor threw Brett off of him. Now I realize that Rogers is no Couture when it comes to wall n stall, err…dirty boxing/clinch against the cage, but he is a massive man. I believe Fedor has the hips, the trips, and the strength to nullify or minimize damage from the clinch game. Everywhere else I believe Fedor has major advantages. Just my take.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
I agree 100% that the toolboxes tilt heavily in Fedor's favor.
No dispute there whatsoever. And out in open space, it’s an execution, not a fight.
But after seeing Randy wall Brock for the better part of a round, knowing Brock’s power and wrestling experience, I still think that Randy gets a pretty good edge at that position.
Fedor is an interesting monster, though. Good back and forth, Diceman.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
by misterjonez on Aug 12, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree Dice the main advanatage is Fedor can finish the fight at anytime
With Rany he will ahve to grind it out most likely.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Yeah, nice back and forth. I agree with you both in that Randy has that advantage, but the ability to finish is in Fedor's advantage.
That’s one thing I will give Randy credit for though, if there is ever an overmatched fighter that can come up with good gameplans and stay in it, Randy is the one.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
who?
isnt that the guy that lost to werdum a couple months back?
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
I'm going to start being the BE or KidNate of commenters, I'm just going to copy and paste your comments and say "I agree & Dana White sucks!"
A bet's a bet:
"The #1 Heavy Weight of the World Brock Lesnar!" – "All aboard The Pain Train Chug a Chug a Choo Choo!"
lol this is such a farce...
not interested in ufc
Really? I doubt they care anyways since you just lost to one of their losing outcasts. Fedor is my favorite, but this talk is just ridiculous. How about you sign for a fight before talking about contract extensions? Well, let’s see what happens… For me Fedor is in Limbo since the Werdum embarrassment.
Bullets dodge Fedor.
not interested because they are under contract at the moment
But we’ll see the same song and dance when this contract is up. I was hoping the loss may help his chances on going to ufc but that bridge may be burned.
"A man that does not fall, does not stand up."
Chael Sonnen: The true p4p KING!
I'm still a Fedor fan and always will be, but c'mon man your stock has plummeted, the way I see it...
you have 4-6 to restore your legacy to what it was, dont waste it Strikeforce (no disrespect to that roster but in 1-2 fights its cleaned out)
Fedor doesnt need to "restore" his legacy
He is already the best fighter in MMA history and nothing will change that.
Everyone loses sooner or later, the other fighters who are in the top 5 p4p with Fedor has lost many more fights and gotten their asses kicked while losing.
Fedor got caught.
Once.
by Lester The Pimp on Aug 12, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Aldo has not lost. Fedor lost 2. GSP lost 2. Silva lost 4.
The more you talk up his “legacy” like that, the more you look like a nuthugger. That “quick” list of the consensus top 4 is pretty equal. And YES A DQ COUNTS AS A LOSS.
Fedor is the best HW (arguably overall fighter) ever. If he fights 4-6 more times and loses half, that will not change. All that Werdum did was finally make all of the nuthuggers realize he could be beaten, just like Sonnen did to all the Andy nuthuggers on Saturday. Doesn’t change how good he is.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
correct. 1 loss for Aldo. apologies...
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
he is the best
But I am very curious to see how he looks in his next fight. That is going to tell us a lot. Will he come back like GSP? Or is he going to start a skid?
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
He is the best? he hasn’t beat anyone in forever and is 16-10 or someting overall…. highly over-rated fighter
Ok Bob
your opinion. He is the best HW ever. Yes. I stand by that.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Entitled to your opinion… but if you really think that it completely blows my mind… Lesnar right now is better then he ever was or ever could be…
ditto bud
you go ahead and think that a guy with a 5-1 record is the best ever. I will continue to think that the guy with the 31-2 record is the best ever. This horse has been beaten dead. I am not making audacious claims. I could understand your “completely blows my mind” comment if I were talking about Hershel being the best HW ever, or Frank Mir, but in this context that just doesn’t make sense.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I dont think lesnar is the best ever.. I am just saying he is better then randy… randy has fought the same guys again and again and is 18-10 overall..how can he be the best?
we are talking about Randy
above. But OD’s picture is still relevant.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Ok, to recap, you both agree Fedor is the best ever, but disagree on Randy's status.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
I thought you said randy was the best.. and you did… That is the only statement i am arguing.he is not the best and never was..
Who's on first? What's on second? I tried to help, but I'll let you guys figure this one out.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
If you were talking about fedor this entire time i apologize.. my comment was regarding randy…my first comment was why would he fight randy and you respoded w/ he is the best
this is what I was saying and nothing else. I am sorry we misunderstood each other. Here are my points again
I said Fedor was the best HW ever.
I said Randy is a legend who deserves respect. He is a world class fighter. A Hall of Famer, a two division champion. I said saying "Randy was never that good" is a retarded statement. Those were all of my points.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
My statement regarding Randy being never that good was specific to him being considered the best ever..my bad..waste of time and energy by us both…
seriously
Dammit Bob. I was just coming by for a minute this morning. There goes 20 minutes. You SOB! :)
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
That's true bob, you can't edit your posts. I think it was just a mixup in order.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
I didn't think I'd have to post this again so soon...
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m just saying look at the guys record.. I appreciate his attitude and am amazed he can do what he does at his age..but all in all he just not that great compared to the fighters we see today…
wrong
He is one of two guys to hold belts in two different weight classes. How you can say that equals “not that great” is completely hilarious to me.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
There were only about 5 guys in the HW division…I just think you need to put it in perspective thats all… I’m not knocking his accomplishments..I am simply stating that as a fighter he is not the best…
No, you said "he was never that good"
Big difference. Not the best, ok, never that good= riding the short bus.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I didn’t mean never good… I meant that good as in people referring him to the best.. Sorry for not being clear
I agree with bob. Randy is very good to excellent but the word legend does not spring to mind. Legend = Wand, Royce, Shamrock, Chuck, Big Nog, Fedor, Rutten, Severn, etc. Randy is a notch below. As a coach and strategist, I think he is awesome.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Randy's overall charisma and intelligence make him an excellent face for MMA. I think those factors add to his legend label but I am only speaking to his MMA record.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
yes he has lost a lot
but I have to give respect to someone that destroyed the best in their prime. Plus, he is an absolute freak of nature.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I saw this on another SB post so I can't take credit for this arguement.
Name me another real person that goes by Captain America that you would take seriously.
Ride the Tiger!
by doonerthesooner on Aug 12, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Nick names are all about excellent marketing meeting an exceptional personality. It has nothing to do with his MMA record.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
The greatest nickname ever is "The Axe Murderer"
And it’s the greatest ever because it was given to him by the fans; not something he just decided to tac on out of nowhere.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He's earned the HOF and Legendary status
You guys get to look back on his carreer now and see 20/20 vision and then compare him to a bunch of fighters around today that weren’t even in the sport or old enough to compete in the sport when Couture was a champion.
If you could actually go back and look at an MMA forum before the Belfort fight you’d see maybe 2 people on the entire site picking Couture to win. On paper he wasn’t supposed to get past any of these guys. Age, skill set, every one was picking against him vs Randleman, everyone was picking against him vs Chuck. These guys were champions in the prime of their lives and Couture not only won, he DOMINATED.
And Unlike so many fighters that lose and then continue their downward slide, Couture loses, then comes back and becomes a champ, loses then comes back again, loses then comes back again. This guy cannot be mentally broken, period. He’s one of the greatest ever.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
My point is that not as many people went into MMA…. It wasn’t a sport that got the best talent.. I don’t even think you can come up w/ a best ever list..The sport is just too young and too new.. In 10 years we are going to see guys so good where tito ,chuck,randy never would have stood a chance….
Every sport evolves
Just becasue let’s say Walter Payton may not be a pro bowl back if he happened to play now does not change that he is one of the greatest ever.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Walter Payton is the greates overall football player to have ever played the game.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Gayle Sayers was a better RB than sweetness...
choke on that OJ.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Ulf, Sayers was a sweet runner but Sanders is better as a pure runner. Payton ran with shitty offensive lines most of his career and still broke the rushing record. Choke on that, sucka!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Bo Jackson now there is one of the best ever
To bad he got injured speed and power combo was one of a kind.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Sanders was awsome no doubt
Talk about making defenders looking silly Sanders did that every game pretty much even agaisnt the best.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
As a pure runner - Sanders hands down. Walter could run, block, punt and throw the football with good to very good results.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Isnt Sander up for the hall of fame next year?
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
Bo was the man. Freakish athlete.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
And like Sanders he had a sub par team
When Bo went down the ruching yard went down big time.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
but he didn't play against the same kind of guys
that All Day plays against. It’s a new game, the lines are bigger, the players are faster. Walter Payton probably wouldn’t even make an NFL roster these days.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Chris Johnson>All Day...yeah, I said it. Tell Peterson to hold onto the rock!
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
My boys McFadden & Bush are going to have a break out year. Raiders 1st in the AFC West! You heard it hear first LOL.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
In Madden though Dice Peterson is much better even with a 65 carry.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Madden can suck it, we all know who the rushing crown went to last year.
We’ll see this year, CJ called his shot at 2500 yards, lol.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Raiders?
Not until that Al Davies Zombie dies. Sorry brother.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
he should bring in more guys like
Jamarcus. Solid moves.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
how the hell
that guy keeps getting work is beyond me. Make me lose hope in the world.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
It's pretty amazing actually. The package deal bringing daddy along certainly helps.
After he flames out at USC he won’t be getting any more big offers. It will be off to mid-major land for Lame.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
HE is suppose to let the coach's coach this year
But if he get’s involved you will probally be right. Davis has a great 80’s mind for the game but thats were it ends. Hopefully he sits back and enjoys the game becasue the 80’s style no longer works.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I like the moves on D this year
Getting Big John Henderson will help the rookie greatly! All Cambell has to do is keep the +/- in the plus’s and we have a shot at the division especially if SD loses one or two of their holdouts LOL.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
It's going to be a bad start coming to play my Titans first game of the year!
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Especially being away
They need to contain Johnson and Young and grind out the ball. I think the turnover will decide who wins and I’m hoping Cambell will less than Young? The one thing I don’t like about the Raiders is their receivers becasue they are all small and that hurts McFadden on the outside when they hold their blocks.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
The Rams are next on their schedule so they should be 1-1 at the worst
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Hey fuckers, this is an MMA forum get that damn Football speak outta here
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
AAAAHH !!! Run for the hills.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
Being MMA fans on a MMA form
We can debate about anything. Go check out the T&A thread it’s sweet and has nothing to with MMA.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I just might do that...
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a Fedor thread, keep your man crush on that old fart outta here!
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be surprised if Young turned it over more than Campbell. I think the Raiders will definitely be improved, but I don't see them beating the Titans.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Every year is a new year
Who would of picked the Bengals to sweep their division. The one thing the Raiders have going for them is talent especially on the D side. If they are going to be a division contender it will ride or on their D and turnover ratio. There offence of production will hopefully be in the middle of the pack.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
you have more competition to compare walter payton to…I am just saying this sport is too new to really have a best ever list…
you have more competition to compare walter payton to…I am just saying this sport is too new to really have a best ever list…
Ok I’ll use Babe Ruth
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
you still had way more people attempting to play baseball then fight in MMA… Only very few people even knew what MMA was….Also, babe ruth has records that stood for quite some time…
Has anyone else won 5 belts in 2 diff weight class's besides Couture??
Is his record still holding up??
Yes….
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
some guys he beat
are still relevant. Most people think Belfort should get the shot at Anderson.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
@ bob
That’s not accurate at all; Couture is still competitive, he just recently beat Vera who’s part of a younger generation of fighters. He was competitive at HW against Lesnar, aside from Carwin Couture gave Brock the most trouble of any fight he’d been in. He took out Gonzaga, another bigger, younger fighter. The guy is STILL holding his own in a sport your saying he should be getting destroyed in.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
So then you resort to downgrading his performances
I just can’t wait until they give Randy a top guy and he makes it a competitive back n forth fight, just get ready to eat some crow.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude I don't care what anyone says he beat Vera.
That fight wasn’t anywhere near as close as people say.
Ride the Tiger!
by doonerthesooner on Aug 12, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Randy took more of a beating then he gave…He controlled the fight in the clinch but never exerted any damage
He is part of the foundation that these new fighters your so impressed with
Built their skills on. He was one of the guys to lay the ground work, he was a fighter when there was little to no $$ in MMA, just for love of the sport. And he’s still competing today and can still compete with any of the top guys in his division.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. I am not debating his legendary status..you can be a legend for other reasons besides your actual fighting ability.. I dont think he can compete w/ guys at top of the division though.. JDS,Cain,Carwin,Brock all put him to sleep easy
I wouldn't call Brock's fight with Couture "easy" by any means.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats a HW regardless of experience
Brock has the wrestling to take away Coutures #1 tool as well
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
If most fighters went 8-7 they would never have the chance to fight in the UFC again.. no matter what the competition
Couture is not most fighters
He’s proven over and over again that he can rebound from a loss and still beat great fighters.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
You make an excellent argument. However, legend is a bit of a stretch for me. Very good to excellent suits Randy better. Just my opinion, not a knock on his character as a man or spokesman for MMA.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
@ OD.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I guess our definitions of impressive records are different. He’s earned the legend moniker in my book. And Jim Brown, Peyton Manning, and Jerry Rice could all be considered better than Walter.
Ride the Tiger!
by doonerthesooner on Aug 12, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Randy is a legend for the wars he has been in
Holding two belts, known by his peers as a legend, one of the pioneers to evovle wresting to effective MMA grappling ……
I can go on and on
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I think his position in the sport's history is a given.
He’s a legend for what he did, who he did it to, when he did it and how he did it. Will people look back forty years from now and go “Wow, Couture was a beast!” Probably not, which is a bit of a shame.
Fedor will probably get that reaction, as will guys like Liddell, Hughes and Anderson.
But based on his obvious record and methodology, he’s not going to be as striking of a figure as Mark Coleman or Royce Gracie.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
by misterjonez on Aug 12, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know how you could consider him anything but a legend
He’s a fighters fighter; other professional fighters are Randy Couture fans. There’s young fighters all the time talking about how they were inspired to get into this sport cause of Randy.
He wrote the blue print for adapting the wrestling clinch game to MMA. Fighters look at Randy and they try to emulate his mindset, his game plans, his unbreakable will. If that’s not legendary I don’t know what is.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He wrote the blue print for adapting the wrestling clinch game to MMA. Fighters look at Randy and they try to emulate his mindset, his game plans, his unbreakable will. If that’s not legendary I don’t know what is.
Well said O damn
Like you said fighters now and in the future will study randy and evolve the sport. Simply looking at the win and loss is ignorant
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I would venture to bet
that the fighters believe Randy is a legend.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I take issue with the not a legend part.
Ride the Tiger!
by doonerthesooner on Aug 12, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
See my post above.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
It's the wars he has been in win or lose
Greatest ever is Fedor but his status is from the Pride days. Randy like Wandy are known for being in wars win or lose wich is why they are legends.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
OD - This one needs to go in your permanent library.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Agreed.
All that’s left for him in Strikeforce is a Werdum rematch and Overeem.
In the UFC those 4-6 fights can restore his legacy if used on Lesnar, JDS, Cain, Carwin, Mir and, I dunno, Randy or Nelson. Or hell, maybe even a LHW or Catchweight fight against Silva or Shogun.
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez
I don't think SF believes Fedor has helped their organization and that is the only reason I still feel there is a chance he might come
I’m not going to hold my breathe but I don’t think SF will sign him for what they are paying him now. Hell SF let go their MW champ with no fight and that shows SF financially is in trouble.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
There are still so many new fans
that don’t even know who Fedor is. We’ve talked on here before about the fact that he’s not a big draw.
I agree with you on that fact that they may not re-up his contract. He/M1 will want more than SF is willing to offer.
Thats why there is still the possiblity
But there is still dream and other options I just can’t see them getting more money than what the UFC would offer. Now co-promotion is still an option but M1 does little of the work will any of these orgs agree to such high demands with a company that does nothing but send in Fedor?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
figures
total bs, it was somehow obvious he wanted nothing to do with overeem and his clearly ducking him, i recall an interview which overeem stated so, now it just confirms it….. meh, and bigfoot wateva maybe be a decent fighter i’ve never watched him but that doesn’t interest me watsoeva plus he also got done for roids even thou he firmly denies it, I’d like to see fedor vs barnet in dream, is he allowed to fight in other orgs or is it exclusive
I think he knows what would happen in the UFC
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 11:38 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Pink FTW
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
White is just there to accentuate pink.
That said, if pink weren’t present, we would all be golf-clapping white.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
by misterjonez on Aug 12, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
blondie wins b/c she has less ice cream in her cup. pink girl would be fat one day.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 3 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 12, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
there should be a tooth on lesnars big azz paw
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 3 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 12, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm jsut glad Fedor sounds somewhat exciting about competing
If he cleans out Reem, Wedum, and bigfoot, then he’ll right back up to one of the top pfp fighters int he world.
That being said, Overeem is is the key. He has to fight him or he’ll be labeled as ducking fighters.
"Deng is fired" - Neil Funk
by RogersPark Kris on Aug 12, 2010 11:47 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah him and Overeem need to square off in one of his next two fights.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
especially if he signs an extension
Then he should not be avoiding the championship clause. If that is the reason for not taking the fight.
"A man that does not fall, does not stand up."
Chael Sonnen: The true p4p KING!
*just *excited
way to fuck up that header
"Deng is fired" - Neil Funk
by RogersPark Kris on Aug 12, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
On Spike, no less.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
by misterjonez on Aug 12, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
That woud post a PPV buy rate of at least 2.5 million
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
Dana could charge $100 per PPV and still get 2 million easy!
There is nothing quite as satisfying as out running security after you've punched out a Flyers fan!
"I was in the moment, and the moment said smack you." - Bruce Willis
I would buy scalped tickets and fly to vegas for 1 night just to see that live.
There is nothing quite as satisfying as out running security after you've punched out a Flyers fan!
"I was in the moment, and the moment said smack you." - Bruce Willis
Once on cable and the other one online. LOL
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
I would buy one,
which is more than I ever do, since being in the Philippines, I get them all for free!
The only thing that sucks is that I lose out most of the stool-talk between rounds while Balls (the hosting channel) runs their God-damned Colt 45 Christine Reyes commercials for the eleventy-billionth time.
Smalle price to pay for saving ~$1k/year.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
alas... it was never meant to be...
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
you stole my painting from my attic.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 3 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 12, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you have a wet dream while awake...?
I just did. :(
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
I'm disapointed OD!!! How can u NOT have Wand on this card !?
>:(
by d*locc on Aug 12, 2010 2:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
pft, typical fan
I bring you stacked card and all you do is bitch bitch bitch..
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree tho Wand should be on that card lol
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
This is great news! 4 to 6 heavyweights? Easily
To start how about Overeem for the title, then a rematch with Werdum, Bigfoot Silva could be good. Arlovski would be good. Rogers is another good one and by then there should be more on the scene. Arlovski and Rogers were ahead until they got KO’d that’s why a rematch would be good.
Ehhh
Not shocked, but there’s not that many guys for Fedor to fight in SF’s HW division. I mean you’ve got Overeem, Werdum, Rogers, Bigfoot, Arlovski, Lashley, Walker… and some other guys that most people don’t even know. Unless SF brings a few guys up to HW (King Mo, Whitehead, Mousasi possibly?), then they really don’t have much to offer and certainly not enough to get him listed as the #1 HW again. Just my opinion of course.
UFC Apocalypse!!!
I love utopia.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
''A man is not finished when he's defeated; he's finished when he quits'' Richard M. Nixon on Fedor's loss
Looking at the UFC HW's
Brock would be a tough matchup because of his wrestling /size(obviously)
Carwin would gas after not getting the knockout early, plus Fedor’s technical boxing skill is way better.
Cain would be interesting because of how well rounded he is. At least Fedor wouldn’t have to worry about being severely undersized against him.
Dos Santos is too one dimensional at this poiint of his career (imo)
"Deng is fired" - Neil Funk
by RogersPark Kris on Aug 12, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
Fedor needs to step up
and fight Ron Van Clief. I think we all know this fight needs to happen.
"Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
Fan of: Cole Miller, Dentist Neer, Alan Belcher, Bones Jones, Frank Mir
tank abott needs a payday. so does gary goodridge. he still has not been paid.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 3 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 12, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
You forgot Ba(u)tista.
If Vadim is feeling frisky, we might even see Walker in there somewhere.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
by misterjonez on Aug 12, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
last time with hands behind his back.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 3 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 12, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
man
fuck Fedor….if he wants to hang with those chumps…im starting to think Dana is right…
Last Emperor's Last Chance
Fedor’s 33. Another fight this year and then a 4-6 fight contract means that whomever gets that new contract with him is the last organization to get a crack at having a (possibly) top level Fedor in their league.
I’m trying to remain emotionally neutral when I read his quote and take it at face value. The quote says that he wants to concentrate on finishing the SF contract before getting on with whatever is next. I hope the “for now…no interest in the UFC” part truly is as it reads. And that once he finishes his SF contract, all bets are off and negotiations with any organization are on the table.
That is my hope. But my opinion is that he will continue to hide behind M1’s ridiculous demands at co-promotion, not go with the UFC, and will continue to lose favor with fans, critics, and everyone outside of Mother Russia. Come on Fedor, you’re rich, you only live once, wtf are you fighting chumps for?
FEDOR'S DEAL WITH STRIKEFORCE 2/3 DONE
Well if he does it sounds like Werdum won't be his first opponent becasue he's out tell 2011. Below comment from above link, there is no deal but M1 makes it sound like it will happen
So who might Emelianenko face if he returned before the new year? What about the possibility of Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem?
“I don’t want to name names of possible opponents, but this match should be one that pleases the fans,” Kogan said.
MMA Fighting asked Kogan if Overeem was one of those possibilities.
“He is one of them,” he replied, though reiterating that a “number of options” are being discussed.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Money my friend, it's all about the $$$$$
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
it will be nice to watch fedor slide down the heavyweight rankings. kinda like watching tiger woods get frustrated that he can't even win a tournament much less a major one
fedor’s career 2000-2010. rip. it was nice while you were in pride. let the new breed of heavyweight take over.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 3 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 12, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Aug 12, 2010 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
fedor is a pussy and coward. he will not fight overeem or lesnar. just wait and see.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 3 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 12, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think professional fighters are ever either of what you described, wolf. However, its clear that he does not want to deal with UFC. Maybe he is looking to protect his legacy?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
if your supposed to be p4p the best he should not be ducking people.
he once was a few years ago but not anymore and we have chael soonen to thank for busting up most of the legend of one anderson silva. don’t be scared of him and take him down. both these guys are on the downslide of their careers. it’s just like when tyson lost to either douglas or holyfield or both. the intimadation factor was no longer there.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 3 weeks till the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Aug 12, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that no fighter has that unbeatable mystique anymore. I also agree that Fedor is on the downslide. I think that Fedor's skills have eroded due to age.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Unfortunately when you prefer to fight the Hong Man Choi of the worlds, you mystique isnt quite glossy anymore.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
Don't compare Fedor to Anderson
Anderson actually fights the best guys and wants to fight in the UFC
Actually....AS has no choice since he's under contract with the UFC.
He fights the “Best” out of necessity(and not to be of breach of contract). I bet if he and Soares had their way, they’d be out of the UFC fighting in Circus fights against Bernard Hopkins or something….
He singed with the UFC because he wants to be there
And that’s why within the last year he resigned with them and extended his contract. Don’t try to down play Silva. It’s not a good look when you ignore facts and truth.
This made me chuckle.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Of course Fedor wont come to the UFC lol. if you cant beat the guys at SF you better stay the hell away from the UFC fighters
And this sucks i really wanted to see Fedor in the UFC.
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