Alistair Overeem next fight 'hopefully' in October, 'might' fight Bigfoot Silva
by Ponch-Hoe on Aug 10, 2010 11:27 PM EDT
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"Fabricio (Werdum) will not be ready until the beginning of next year so I'm not sure who he'll be fighting next because of the time he'll be taking off. Hopefully we'll have Overeem back in the cage in October. Against who, we don't know. It might be 'Bigfoot' Silva [but] the heavyweight division hasn't been determined and we're still having ongoing dialogue with M-1. That should flesh out here pretty soon and once we come to a deal with them on when (Fedor will) fight, who he'll fight, and with Fabricio out, I think the rest of the division will kind of unfold itself before the end of the year. I don't think [Emelianenko vs. Overeem] will happen this year."
Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker is optimistic about Alistair Overeem returning this Fall to defend his heavyweight title against an opponent to be named. With Fabricio Werdum on the shelf until 2011 and Fedor Emelianenko hiding behind the iron curtain, the promotion may have few options outside of Antonio Silva. Still, Coker stopped short of naming "Bigfoot" as the next contender but considering the state of the division, what other choices does he have? Winner of Lashley vs. Griggs? Let's hear your solutions, Maniacs.
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Just watched this over at BE
What a joke the Strikeforce HW division is.
"I like being punched... I like... punchin'" ~Gray Maynard
"A black belt only covers two inches of your ass, you have to cover the rest" ~Royce Gracie
Chael Sonnen shocks the world at UFC 117
"I don't work submissions, not because I'm trying to prove anything, but frankly I'm just not very good at them" ~Chael Sonnen
Though, which one makes more sense
This one or a Fedor fight? Because they don’t have any other HWs. They only have 5 guys on the roster.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 11, 2010 10:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
fatty russian..
Deserves the title shot more because hes basically the number 2 contender, sadley i can rank the SF HW division on two hands and almost one:
overroids
werdum
fedor
bigfoot
rogers
alovski
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
come on guy, we all know you have 6 fingers
My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
Tito Sucks.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Dumb fight.
Strikefarce does it again. In another note, I got tickets for Strikeforce Houston!
BJ Penn is the #1 P4P fighter in the world without question!
Silva it is
Bigfoot is coming off a win and Fedor is coming off a loss, at least that makes more sense than giving a guy who lost a title shot. Silva was the 1st and last EXC 265lbs champion so he’s got some credibility. I wanted to see Alistair vs Fedor but M1 doesn’t want to risk Fedor losing 2 in a row and they’re damaged goods right now. If DREAM had a Heavyweight Champion, I’d say put him against Overeem.
The Heavyweights are thin
The UFC has names and they have contenders. The HW division has always been thin in true fighters because, its hard to get legit guys fighting at 265lbs. The UFC had a stable of fights with Mike Kyle, Justin Eilers, Paul Buentello, Andrei Arlovski, Frank Mir and Tim Sylvia..weak i know. The UFC has the elite HW division with Cain.JDS,Big Nog,Mir,Lesnar,Nelson,Rothwell,Gonzaga,Kongo,Mitrione,Schaub..that means not much left out there for Strikeforce. Overeem,Fedor,Big Foot,Werdum,Rogers are the division essentially and we were told that Werdum/Fedor out ofr significant time and Rogers was fed to two elite fighters back-to-back. Big Foot is a good HW who could be a good force in the UFC and has a win. I like it as i think they match up size well while, Overeem kills standing up, Silva has a good ground game and a good chin.
This
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 11, 2010 10:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At least Reem is fighting in North America and continuing to undergo testing to aleviate rumours....
He’s young and will be in ufc EVENTUALLY IMO
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
he likes k1 too much to go to ufc i reckon
unless ufc lets him do k1 or offer him a shitload of money i dont see him ion the ufc
He stated that he was interested in coming to the UFC
Does anybody know how long his contract is for with SF?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Of course he's interested, who wouldn't be
but would he be prepared to give up his lucrative japanese work? Cant see Dana letting him carry on with that, he likes to own every sinew of every fighter.
Overeem knows if he comes to the UFC his K1 is done
I’ll go back and try and find the interview, but he stated he focused on K1 for the last five years now wants to focus on MMA and that would not be a problem.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
He won't come to the UFC because he doesn't want to fight the elite wrestlers at HW.
Though I would definatley pay to see Overeem vs JDS.
"I like being punched... I like... punchin'" ~Gray Maynard
"A black belt only covers two inches of your ass, you have to cover the rest" ~Royce Gracie
Chael Sonnen shocks the world at UFC 117
"I don't work submissions, not because I'm trying to prove anything, but frankly I'm just not very good at them" ~Chael Sonnen
I think Overeem would murder JDS
JDS has lost a lot of his mystique for me after failing to put away a static Nelson doing his best impression of a human punchbag.
Overeem can be KO, I don't think his chin is as good as Roy's
JDS had what appeared to be a sub par fight with Roy, but Overeem was losing to Buentello in the stand up for the 2 or so minutes of the two round fight it happened and JDS is much better than Paul. But Against JDS OVereem might have the ground tools size and strength to give JDS problems. It would be a great fight and I think not many are giving Roy the credit he deserves the man had AA beat until the ref stood it up and then AA won and this was when AA was on his five fight winning streak that included guys like Rothwell and Werdum.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I think it'd be a good fight
Overeem’s chin is always a bit suspect, but i reckon he’d have too much power and skill standing for JDS. I honestly couldn’t see Overeem being unable to put Nelson away in the same situation.
i think so too
He will only come to the ufc when he has that k1 gp strap. And now this fight is targeting october i rather have him fight in the k1 final 16 than bail out and have him fight bigfoot
My Top MMA Talents
1. Jon ''Bones'' Jones
2. Anthony ''Showtime'' Pettis
3. Phil ''Mr. Wonderful'' Davis
4. Terry Etim
5. Patricio ''Pitbull'' Freire
by robinhorobson on Aug 11, 2010 11:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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Shogun got a title shot for beating a washed up Liddel…..
Edgar got a title shot for choking out Matt Veach….
Page got a title shot after koing Eastman
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Vitor might get a title shot without ever having fought at 185 in the UFC
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Silva got a title shot after koing Leben
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Brock got a title shot after beating mir
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Hardy got a title shot for beating swick in a dec
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Bj got a title shot for beating Pulver (after losses to Hughes and GSP)
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
and that matters how?
BJ won one fight and got the LW title shot.
If you want to pick nits, he was 1-3 before getting the “shot” at Pulver, only beating an even-then washed up Renzo.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
yup
If you complain about anyone getting the shot in that fight it’s Joe Stevensen.
"I like being punched... I like... punchin'" ~Gray Maynard
"A black belt only covers two inches of your ass, you have to cover the rest" ~Royce Gracie
Chael Sonnen shocks the world at UFC 117
"I don't work submissions, not because I'm trying to prove anything, but frankly I'm just not very good at them" ~Chael Sonnen
Check your history McArthur,,,Brock lost to Mir
then fought Herring then fought Randy for the title.Then Mir again
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy
whatever...you get the point
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
plus he had also knocked chuck out before
i also think chuck asked for the fight barring page get past eastman
in MMA
You shouldn’t have to talk to anyone else to see what fights you’ll be able to put together. This isn’t boxing. In boxing you have several organizations, several promotions and seveal managers. Its understandable why everything has to be worked out. But in MMA, you should be able to say, “this person will be fighting this person on ths date and this person will fight this person on this date”. SF has to ask permission to use their top guy? Embarrassing.
Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.
That's the reason UFC doesn't allow its fighters to compete elsewhere.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Absolutely
SF looks more and more like a joke. They take themselves too serious. they need to relax, build talent, and in 2 or 3 yrs they’ll be exactly what their name implies. Instead they tried to be UFC-esque right off the bat and are failing horribly.
Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.
they are a good org
but they need to stop trying to be the UFC. Be yourself SF, I liked you better when you were content being who you are, a nice smaller org.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Yeah good point guys
trying to be like the UFC they are going to fail especially against a org that is as established as the UFC. Put on the Battista and Ashley who cares what Dana says, if Dana say’s anything he really is just giving more exposure anyway. Get rid of the high priced big names and get as many mid level action packed fighters, minus Fedor and Hendo they could get at least 20 good fighters but instead Bellator is getting them.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
SF has no WW other than Diaz and possibly Daley when that deal gets done
and they are letting Bellator get guys like Ben Askren. They’re not going after Karo at all. What’s with these guys?
"I like being punched... I like... punchin'" ~Gray Maynard
"A black belt only covers two inches of your ass, you have to cover the rest" ~Royce Gracie
Chael Sonnen shocks the world at UFC 117
"I don't work submissions, not because I'm trying to prove anything, but frankly I'm just not very good at them" ~Chael Sonnen
Karo is more trouble than he's worth...he's backed out literally last minute TWICE...he def a liability
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Plus didn't Karo say they contacted him but he has absolutely no interest in SF?
Bellator is doing a marvelous job and they will soon be surpassing SF. If SF would take their Challenger’s series (or showtimes, whoever the hell it belongs to) more seriously, they could have had a great organization by now. Instead they are pissing these kids off.
Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.
Bellator is also signing many prospects and up and comers.
The big names may not be there but the action is and even though the UFC will get some of the proven guys here and there from Bellator but Bellator will sign prospects at a much cheaper cost to move them up.
Bellator doesn’t need near the number of viewers the UFC or SF gets to be successful they just need a loyal fan base that will slowly grow as SF did years ago.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Now Daley is a steal and I think we will get to see him and Diaz go at wich is a fight I'm looking forward too if Diaz keeps it standing?
But other than that Diaz is beating fighters on a lower level than himself, Daley is a great striker but his ground game is sub par.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
say what you will about Diaz
but I don’t see him losing to a one dimentional fighter these days.
Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.
I'm not saying he will but Daley is a more exciting fight than any fighter he has faced in sometime
Put Daley against Sakurai or Žaromskis I bet Daley wins. Against Diaz standing Daley will do well and is one of the only WW’s outside the UFC that would make Diaz use his ground game.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I'd pay just to hear Diaz and Daley talk about fighting each other
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
hmm
dont understand why pplz keep on bitching about SF.
if u dont like it.. then why the fok are u watching it. keep watching ur UFC>
Cool Overeem will be fighting again :)..and maybe already in Oct. thats soon :).
hope for another exlosive win =D
"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten
"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten
My Fav. Fighters List :)
1 - Alistair Overeem
2 - Wanderlei Silva
3 - Mauricio Rua
4 - Fedor Emelianenko
5 - Gegard Mousasi
6 - Dan Henderson
7 - Takanori Gomi
8 - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović
9 - Dan Hardy
10 - Kazushi Sakuraba
Because their champion MIGHT be fighting in October against lord knows who.
If it fits into his schedule. SF is bush league.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
yeah oke, but Overeem can take on anyone.
and with the SF is bush league.
they started mma in 2006.. that more then 4 years. thats not long.
UFC started in … like ’93.. and in the beginning the UFC also sucked. it was a wild jungle.
Hope SF wil Evolve also.
im no SF,UFC/Luver ,Hater.
Just enjoy the mma athletes perform in the cage.
"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten
"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten
My Fav. Fighters List :)
1 - Alistair Overeem
2 - Wanderlei Silva
3 - Mauricio Rua
4 - Fedor Emelianenko
5 - Gegard Mousasi
6 - Dan Henderson
7 - Takanori Gomi
8 - Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović
9 - Dan Hardy
10 - Kazushi Sakuraba
I agree, I watch as much MMA as possible. I don't really care who the promotion is.
But SF is being run by a spineless CEO. Scott Coker needs to grow some balls and take some sort of control over his athletes.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Control over his athletes?
HE is in no position to do so since going the “national promotion” route…
His HW champion makes the rules due to involvement in K-1
His LHW champion has fought 7 times
His MW champion left for the UFC
His WW champion is a head-case that was cut from the UFC for doing the same shit he does now.
His LW champ prefers to be a big fish in a small pond and is also unsigned.
His top earner insists on co-promotion and will drive another organization into the ground.
His top draw is an old man who wants to be a movie star, not a fighter.
His broadcast partner is a pay network that reaches few American households
His national broadcast partner was disgusted with the antics of his LW and WW champions after an in-cage fight.
His last CBS show was a 3 (ONLY THREE) fight snoozefest that blackened his eye when his main promoted fighter was made to look like the old man that he is (and is alos his #2 earner)
Do you want me to keep going?? Coker is up shit creek without a paddle, canoe and the ability to swim. I would be suprised if Fedor actually fights for them again. Coker can’t afford it.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
+1, 2, and 3
Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.
Yeah there is little structure in SF
It’s sad becasue there is some talented fighters there.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
where's sergei?
i heard he signed with strikeforce, lets have the rubber match with sergei and overeem and have bigfoot/fedor
if and when...
by DeadBodyCircus on Aug 11, 2010 11:28 AM EDT reply actions
Sergei doesn't seem like he cares anymore.
Probly here to collect checks. After he hammed it up against Monson, never again.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Aug 11, 2010 1:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bigfoot Silva? Really?
What a joke.
And of course Fedor x Overeem will not happen. Fedor will duck competition forever.
No Joke. And Bigfoot is No Joke Either.
Look, go watch this guy fight. Maybe Bigfoot isnt Top 10. Maybe he isnt a world beater, but he is a beast. He is something like 6’4 or 6’5. I know he weighs near the 265 pound limit and he has very agile legs. He moves around good for a man of his size and his boxing is very good. Grappling wise he can hold his own too. He did well in a three round grapple fest with Fabricio Werdum.
Overeem has been knocked out in the past and Silva doesnt swing pillow fists. He can definately hurt and wobble Overeem. But then again Overeem could just throw him around and finish him as well.
by AintNoSunshine on Aug 11, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
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