Jake Shields: Strikeforce wants to push 'has beens' like Shamrock and Le -- not great young fighters
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 7, 2010 12:31 AM EDT
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"I’m brand new to the UFC but they have treated me absolutely wonderful much better than Strikeforce to this point. They return my phone calls and I get seats unlike Strikeforce but so far things have been absolutely perfect. I don’t want to knock Strikeforce because that’s not my style even though they did treat me like shit which was unnecessary because I never talked bad about them. Honestly I would love to see Gilbert and Nick in the UFC. Even though Strikeforce is a good show, everyone knows it’s the number two show. They have a handful of good fighters but all the top competition is in the UFC and I feel that Nick and Gilbert are good enough to fight at the highest level. I just don’t see Strikeforce putting the marketing strength behind him as they didn’t for me. I feel like they (Strikeforce) want to go after the places that have already been built like Shamrock or Cung Le. They don’t seem really interested in building top young fighters in their prime. They had a great batch of young fighters like me, Nick, Gil and King Mo but they weren’t interested in great young fighters and instead all the push went to 'has beens' like Shamrock and Cung Le. It seemed like they wanted to push people who were no where near their prime."
Former Strikeforce Middleweight Champion Jake Shields talks about his time in Strikeforce as he prepares for what seems like an inevitable run within the ranks of the UFC. The Cesar Gracie grappling guru wants to eventually bring team mates Nick Diaz and Gilbert Melendez over to the world's largest fight promotion and Shields is currently working on maintaining his size. Do you expect a middleweight debut with an eye towards Anderson Silva? Or will he make a run in the UFC's 170-pound division and get his wish of a Georges St. Pierre superfight?
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I think he has to beat a contender before he gets a shot at GSP.
Brock Lesnar is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 Brock Lesnar
2 BJ Penn
3 John Fitch
4 Matt Hughes
5 Matt Serra
No. he and worby have a top 5
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 7, 2010 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Champ and Worby just love Brock Lesnar.
You want to join the Pain Train too AniMal34? It’s the Pro Brock Collaboration in case you haven’t heard about it here.
Bullets dodge Fedor.
Have him fight Hardy. He has a big name and is allegedly a contender, but Shields will have no problems taking him down and tapping him. It’s a good way to introduce him to UFC crowds.
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which will never happen as hardy is the only british fighter........
with a name that is worth a shit at the moment. I know pearson is good but he is relatively unknown…………
O_o
I like this idea - Kampmann vs. Shields. Winner of this match gets winner of Alves/Fitch.
"I am giving up booty for the chance to touch Brock's sword...I shoulda listened to Ulf.
Yup
Kampman was my first thought for Shields. I’m not sure how crazy I’d be about Shields vs Fitch, considering they both have the ability to put me to sleep… from boredom. Who knows though, sometimes those kind of match-ups turn out being barn burners.
by Thunder Biscuit on Jul 7, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Strikeforce treating it's fighters badlt? Cmon no way I thought only the UFC did that hey Worby?
Yeah I think Coker was choked, he brought in Hendo to defeat Shields and got a old man instead of one of MMA’s best grapplers. Yeah he may not be exciting to most but he did prove he is a winner by beating one of MMA’s biggest legends in a weight class he really doesn’t belong. His fight with Hendo was similar to Brocks in a way he weathered the storm and then dominated.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Well he's getting reamed by Showtime and CBS
and M1 while he still doesn’t realize that for all of his very talented fighters, it’s a dead end promotion. I can only be supported by guys who aren’t going to benefit from going to the UFC or usually have had a bad past with Dana. Eventually they will leave for the UFC plain and simple. That’s why i like Bellator, they have no pretenses as to who they are and they do realize that eventually their guys will leave for greener pastures.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 7, 2010 9:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In Soviet Strikeforce, Loser Challenge YOU![for belt]
by Kanadian on Jul 7, 2010 4:54 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
hahahah
Love the Yakov Smirnoff reference!
by Kimura_Dragon on Jul 7, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions
hahaha, this had me rolling.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 7, 2010 9:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol
I never comment on Bloody, just read, but that was a good one bro :D
Make Shields fight Fitch. He doesn't yet deserve one of the best P4P fighters
If he can out blanket Fitch than he’s deserving GSP. If not.. he’s not.
Shields would get ruined by GSP in the stand up. Absolutley Ruined.
Nick is the only Cesar Gracie guy who could push St. Pierre.
Fedor lost to Werdum.... OHHH SNAP!
^^This^^
I still think gsp beats anyone in the world at 170 lns……………but yes diaz would be competitive…
O_o
Diaz would NOT be competitive, but he could stand with GSP. Too bad GSP would take him down at will.
despite the tone of my post
My money is on Capt Canada all day long.
Fedor lost to Werdum.... OHHH SNAP!
Not on the same line of thinking??
Are you fucking high?? I worship GSP, and as I stated he beats anyone in the world at 170 lbs, I just think diaz would be a closer fight than his last several. Ulf you better chickity check yourself…………….lol
O_o
I would love a shileds or diaz vs. GSP fight.........
This kos re-match does nothing for me, I just can’t see anyway kos makes it close. Gonna be the most over hyped one sided beatdown in ufc history….
O_o
and Kos beats both Shields and Diaz, IMO.
so we are back to square one, where GSP doesn’t lose at 170.
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Fedor lost to Werdum.... OHHH SNAP!
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VERY Hype. Best album since The Eminem Show.
Fedor lost to Werdum.... OHHH SNAP!
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Fedor lost to Werdum.... OHHH SNAP!
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 7, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
LMAO
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 7, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
i say bring him in right away for a fight against gspb
because if he loses before he fights gsp, then all is lost in the super fight build up!!!
but its not a super fight.
last year Shields barely survived a bully beatdown.
Mayhem Miller deserves a rematch.
Fedor lost to Werdum.... OHHH SNAP!
totally agree...he sux
what a Jackazz…..he’ll be playing hide Coker’s penis after UFC dumps him.
Does he balls
Jake dealt with Mayhem, he survived one scare at the end of the third but otherwise dominated the fight. What has Miller done since other than instigate a riot? Jake just dominated Hendo after almost being finished, he was the champion in Elite and SF so he deserves a shot at the best guys that the UFC have to offer.
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by David W-S on Jul 7, 2010 11:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Shields was saved by the clock.. .and you know it
He almost got choked out by Mayhem. If only.
And that was the worst lay and pray I’ve ever seen.. truly. He did zero damage. That wasn’t a fight but an exhibition. SHields was embarrassingly safe. Sure he won, but considering the smack talk before and after, transfer of staph infection and just general boring performace. Miller deserves another crack. ayhem suffered no damage and was not even a little bit tired.
He lost by frusteration. Balls to you.
Fedor lost to Werdum.... OHHH SNAP!
I don't think it's a super fight...
…no matter what. GSP wins that fight every time.
by The real Philo on Jul 7, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
good compareson, but TNA still kicks ass
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by Thats It For you! on Jul 7, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
actually is a pretty good comparison
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 7, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Shields and Fitch would be the worst thing to happen to the ufc. Dont put 2 lay and prayers in the same fight. It would straight piss me off!
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fitch vs paulo thiago
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
I'm going to start being the BE or KidNate of commenters, I'm just going to copy and paste your comments and say "I agree & Dana White sucks!"
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u mean shields vs paulo thiago?
Fitch fought him not too long ago
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by salamagogo on Jul 7, 2010 9:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why do all the guys throw out the disclaimer???
I don’t want to knock Strikeforce because that’s not my style …
BUT…
even though they did treat me like shit which was unnecessary because I never talked bad about them
Just out SF for being a shit organizationa dn wanting Hendo to beat your ass, if that is how you feel. People might actually want to see your pillow-fists and blanket style.
He's Highly Ranked
so he should get a high ranked opponent. Like the winner of Fitch/Alves. He needs to prove he can beat a real WW contender before he gets a shot at WW gold. And MMAChamp, your sig was made by an insane persone, right?
Give Shields the loser of Fitch\Alves
Since the Winner fo Fitch\Alves will probably get the next shot at GSP (cause KOS has no chance) Give Sheilds the loser of that fight.
Still a great fight for either fighter, and if either would win, they are still in contention, plus Sheilds would still get his publicity.
BTW Jake,
It’s hard to market your gang banging buddies when they’re suspended.
is it me or does...
I’m brand new to the UFC but they have treated me absolutely wonderful…
Pretty much concrete that he’s now a UFC fighter?
Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.
Yeah that bit got me excited
Sounds like a done deal to me, I think that they’ll have Jake formally challenge the Andy-Sonnen winner and present him to the crowd at 117.
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by David W-S on Jul 7, 2010 11:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed with everything Jake said
Gil and Nick should be in the UFC and SF care more about hyping up old men and non-fighters instead of the real young talent. I hope to see Gil, Nick, Mo and Mousasi join the UFC along with Jake in the near future as all of them are too good for that promotion and deserve their shot in the top promotion. Let SF carry on putting on fights that M1 tells them to, protecting their name fighters and allowing non-fighters to compete, I want to see their real talent fight the best in the UFC.
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by David W-S on Jul 7, 2010 11:09 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
+1
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 7, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Spider
He can pull of the upset of a lifetime and win, or we can sheilds get destroyed, either way win.
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by Thats It For you! on Jul 7, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
same could be said for either GSP or ANDO
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 7, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Anderson Silva
get with the times man! (;
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 7, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
yea noone uses besides me lol
Andy = Reese Andy
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 7, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
that guy ever fight again?
I remember some not so spectacular reese andy ufc fights…didn’t he lose 2 and get the axe?
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by salamagogo on Jul 7, 2010 2:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jake Shields is a crybaby little bitch.
Seriously. Every time I read anything he’s said it sounds like he’s sobbing away while writing it. I think he’s sad that even after holding the SF belt nobody cares about him because holy shit newsflash ahoy he’s a boring fight who LNP’s and is about as exciting to watch as grass grow.
Disagreed
Having an old hasbeen bitch about him on commentary, a clown he already beat ruin his victory celebration and have your boss tell the media that you’re going to lose your next fight would piss anyone off. Alas it’s the in thing to hate Shields, even if he does beat Andy or GSP then someone will find something to bash him for.
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by David W-S on Jul 7, 2010 3:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
agreed except on the mayhem part
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 7, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
"a clown he already beat" ????
Mayhem had his back at the end of the fight if you remember correctly and was locking in a rear-naked choke. If that fight were 20 seconds longer Mayhem would have won.
But that doesn’t retract from the point that Shields is a boring fighter and the majority of his fights are snoozefests. Look at the Hendo fight. The only time that fight was entertaining was when Hendo was beating his ass in the first round.
Stop crying about undercard fights. Half the time they're better than belt defenses.
Yeah maybe so but he still is one of the greates grapplers in MMA
Wether guys like it or not he’s one of the best in the business at what he does and infact back in 05 beat Fitch a grabbling submission tournament.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
exactly. All these if's
if the fight was 20 seconds longer he would’ve lost, if he would learn to brawl we would love him, if he were exciting coker would love him, if, if, if, if, if, that’s all you whiny brawling lovers say. Well guess what if didnt happen so get over it an learn that MMA isn’t only standing and banging. If you can’t appreciate a good ground game then you are not a true fan of the sport.
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by the chubbster on Jul 7, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
look at gsp. i mean, he has good striking, dont get me wrong, but his ground game is phenomenal.he learned from his fight with matt sera to exploit his opponents’ weaknesses, just like he did with hardy and alves. sure, slugfests are fun to watch, but there are other aspects of the game, and alot of people don’t appreciate that.
And one of the world's least
entertaining fighters still cannot understand why he wasn’t marketed hard by Strikeforce. I know he is a solid fighter but I have lost even more respect for him with these comments. I will not pay to see him fight as a main event or co-main event so it doesn’t matter to me who he fights.
Doesn't matter how can SF let their champion go without a fight?
Entertaining or not some guys say the same about GSP & Fitch & KOS & many others the fact that the UFC is getting SF’s champion with no fight is insane especially after beating one of SF’s highest paid fighters. Who care is Hendo gets a belt now he still couldn’t beat Shields.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Because nobody wants to watch him fight.
Champion or not he’s a snoozefest and SF will have a better draw with a different champ.
Stop crying about undercard fights. Half the time they're better than belt defenses.
I'd like to see him fight the Fitch/Alves winner...
I don’t think he should get a title match – MW or WW – without winning a fight in the UFC first. And I’d rather see him at WW as I think he would compete better in that division than at MW.
hendo got an immediate title shot
When coming back to ufc from pride..well 2 actually, back to back…but they kinda needed a legit challenge for andy…I say give jake a shot a gold…fuggit
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by salamagogo on Jul 7, 2010 7:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Pick your Poison
If Shields gets Fitch/Alves (as most people agree with) I think he is in trouble. Fitch out grapples Shields and wins a boring grappling match and an Alves that can stop Fitch takedowns would punish Shields.
I haven't read any of the posts yet
But Shields needs to get to 170, quick. I thought he looked wooden at the heavier weight, and I think he gets owned in the UFC at middleweight.
wait...
i know he was in negotiations with the ufc,but have they officially signed him? Hmmm i thought they wouldve made like some big announcement or something
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Shields will fight Fitch.
He can’t fight Gsp until after Kos.
I kind of agree with Shields
They didn’t really hype Shields at all and dude has proved he is pretty good. I thought for sure Henderson would beat him but after the first round Shields basically raped him. I would have loved to see Sheilds/Mayhem fight again. If there would have been 45 more seconds left in the last fight Mayhem would have choked him out.
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