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'Panic' attack: Evgeni Kogan calls report of M-1 Global's pending collapse '100-percent made up'

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"Human sacrifices, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!"

The mixed martial arts community has been waiting for the other shoe to drop after top ranked heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko suffered his first defeat in nine years at the hands of Fabricio Werdum on Showtime's June 26 Strikeforce card in San Jose.

While the fighter will likely rebound, what about Strikeforce? Or M-1 Global -- who may have placed all their financial eggs in the Russian's basket?

According to a report from MMA Fighting, "The Last Emperor's" promotional organization "is in disarray" after the former PRIDE champion's defeat, even closing its head office in the Netherlands as investors begin to jump ship at the prospect of M-1 losing their negotiating power.

UFC President Dana White, who was obsessed with the acquisition of Emelianenko, has publicly stated he now has "zero interest" in signing the WAMMA kingpin, who lost some of his mystique following the Werdum loss.

From blank checks to "no thanks" is a tough spot to be in from a bargaining standpoint, especially with just one fight remaining on Emelianenko's current Strikeforce contract.

Yet M-1 Global's Director of Operations Evgeni Kogan is not giving the article much credence, telling Luke Thomas at Bloody Elbow the report is "100-percent made up."

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"...That article is 100% made up. There is not an ounce of truth to it. There is no panic, Fedor retains his status in the sport (financially and in terms of perspective). To believe any different is to be out of touch with the business reality of MMA (or any other sport for that matter). The head office in Holland is here and isn't going anywhere anytime soon. As are the offices in Russia, Ukraine, US and the affiliates in Asia. M-1 remains healthy and has the same leadership and investors as it has had since 1997 (making it pretty much the longest running promotion out there). We're looking forward to promoting the Selection finals in Moscow on the 22nd and the Semis in AC on August the 7th. Challenge will take place in the fall."

It's hard to imagine such a disparity between the two sides, but there is no question that investors would express concern if their top money maker was no longer able to provide the same return on investment.

But is it enough to cause a company-wide "panic?"

That remains to be seen.

Stay tuned to MMAmania.com for more updates to this still-developing story.

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is that a line from GhostBusters ?

by FatAttack on Jul 6, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

"Theres only two things you need to know about me: I spin more rhymes than a lazy susan, and im innocent until my guilt is proven"

by dangerdunphy on Jul 6, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you Peter Venkman?

Yes, I’m DOCTOR Venkman…

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Jul 6, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

man i remember seeing that in the theaters

by FatAttack on Jul 6, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

Thanks for reminding me I’m old

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Jul 6, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

so am I…sucks don’t it

by FatAttack on Jul 6, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was the first movie I ever saw at a theater.

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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jul 6, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hello buddy

I feel like should have a different sig up, even though I made no lesnar bet this weekend. I was talking a bit of crap though. hahahahahaha.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its ok. Tons of you guys are slow coming around.

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by jay. on Jul 6, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

why would ANYONE ever think the brockness monster could ever lose again? i mean damn

the brockness monster grinds up teenagers and puts them in his protein shakes..and uses razor blades to chop toddlers up into lines to snort like meth...the reason no one can find bigfoot is because the brockness monster found him years ago and now has him in numerous ziplock bags in the back of his freezer...

by HellaHectic on Jul 6, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

God I hate hate hate hate hate

the fact that I am kinda nodding my head here. Effing Hella. Dammit.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Errrrrrrrrrrrrm

Is that sarcasm?

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by Jimi_kiss the sky on Jul 6, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He don't play.

Brock won’t lose again, it’s silly to believe he could.

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by jay. on Jul 6, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't see it, not saying I'm right by any means

For many reasons

If I'm free it's cos I'm always running - Jimi Hendrix

by Jimi_kiss the sky on Jul 6, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hilarious, absolutely hilarious

Ok, I see how he would dominate nearly all HWs, but what about the inevitable rematch with Shane? How do you see it going down differently? Only next time Carwin doesn’t punch himself out, and we saw Brock wasn’t strong enought to use his wrestling to get him down early one. I give a rematch evens at best. So how can you be sure no one will dethrone Brock. I love Brock, and I love Fedor, and I was one who thought nobody could beat Fedor, but someone did, and it wasn’t luck but just one of those things. Don’t see how people can say Brock is undefeatable when in ANY other fight the ref would have stopped it (i’m glad he didn’t).

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by Jimi_kiss the sky on Jul 6, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your right about anybody can be beaten

 Brock can take down Shane he couldn’t in his first four attempts but was close once. So don’t say he can’t because thats wrong too.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Jul 6, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, it is wrong to say he can't

But he didn’t. Just don’t see how anyone can honestly say he can’t be beaten, when he came as close to losing a fight just two days aga as I have ever seen anyone come.

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by Jimi_kiss the sky on Jul 6, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

'ago'

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by Jimi_kiss the sky on Jul 6, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not only will Shane's rematch not go the same....

But I also wonder about Mir. I think the rubber match I may sway towards Mir.

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by DJ Pullout on Jul 6, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes I worded that wrong

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by DJ Pullout on Jul 6, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you mean

Swaying towards Mir actually being carried out on a stretcher I am with ya. Mir is a gatekeeper and that is it.

by ASR on Jul 6, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

hes not a gatekeeper u moron.

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Jul 6, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOLFY FUCK!

For once an article is about FEDOR and everyone is talking about other fighters, instead of the other way around.

Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.

by JasonFahQ on Jul 6, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a gatekeeper

Then who is he going to be fighting next. Carwin, no wait that might result in him having permanent slurred speach. Lesnar, only if the ref is there to not let him take any damage.

by ASR on Jul 7, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha

Hey, I predicted the entire first round. Just didn’t realize what a hard head Brock has.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was horrible watching Brock retreat like that

But he made up for it.

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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jul 6, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah man

I kept standing up and screaming for the fight to be over. I thought Shane had it. When he didn’t finish, I wasn’t depressed. I was overly impressed with Brock on Sat. Respect. That was his first real championship fight.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

He won’t look like that against anyone else. Shane is his best competition in the UFC right now.

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"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jul 6, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

for sure

Carwin Lesnar II will be friggin huge. But man, I am in such a positive mood. That was the best card I can remember in some time, maybe ever. Just great, great fights throughout. I mean we had an inverted triangle to armbar submission that didn’t even get SOTN.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree

That was the best set of fights the UFC ever put together. Every fight was impressive.

by ASR on Jul 6, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was on vaca all weekend

so I wasn’t purposely avoiding mania (I don’t post much on the weekend anyhow), I just need to take the medicine. Still haven’t seen SD up here.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

SD has been absent.

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by jay. on Jul 6, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

couple of tough weeks for sure

Fedor, now Brock. You can’t argue that Brock wasn’t a champion on Saturday. I won’t anyways. He is still green, but man, like he said, he is a tough sob.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that mother f^cker is avoiding putting on his new sig & picture

What a caward,…I hope he didn’t go to jail or something going into a frantic rage? I can picture him cheering his ass off jumping up and down just about to go on MAnia then realizing that Brock is still defending, then he sits back down with a huge frown not believing what is happening. Unable to control his emotions he starts crying when Brock gets Carwin down and goes into a deep state of depression after Carwin taps.

 I know he lives in Oakland maybe check out the news are google “crazy UFC fan July 10th Oakland” and we might find him LOL

I don’t know but it pisses me off how much talking he did now he’s going to post under another name probally to avoid our bet? His sig was awsome too rrrrrrrr!!

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Jul 6, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay fuck you dude....

I didnt get the fight until I down loaded it on Monday night. It was a holiday weekend and I post at work.

“I don’t know but it pisses me off how much talking he did now he’s going to post under another name probally to avoid our bet? "
Fail again Puck.

You can read on your Pain Train post what I think about it.

One paper champ, beating another paper champ. I said it before the fight, and I still beleive it. I have also always said Cain and JDS are the really competition for Brock.

But whatever little bitch, no running here and no alternate name…is this something you do? You seem to bring it up a lot and I never have done it so you seem to be projecting a bit there.

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by StrikerDave on Jul 6, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

lov ur sig davey girl..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Jul 6, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a great day!

Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.

by JasonFahQ on Jul 6, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean how big his arms are?

When Carwin was GNP Brock, Brock just put up those gorrila arms and Shane couldn’t even punch through to his face hardly..

by Capnjbrown on Jul 6, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

watch that again man

At one point Lesnar almost spits his mouth piece he was elbowed so hard. Dude took some serious shots.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

that elbow was stiff!!!

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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 6, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

head crushing

that thing would have split open most people’s skulls. I will say it again. Respect.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know im gonna get shit for this

But I’d bet a testicle that if their positions had been reversed, the red woulda stopped the fight…brock overcame adversity, for sure, but I believe if the roled were switched, gassing and all…rosenthal woulda stopped it 3o seconds after the gnp started

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by salamagogo on Jul 6, 2010 2:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thats Speculation

We will never know but the ref did an AMAZING job for that fight.

by AintNoSunshine on Jul 6, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

I think Rosenthal wanted to make sure that he didn’t stop the fight early – and rightfully so. The title should never be decided on a questionable stoppage (not that any fight should). But I’m sure both guys would have much rather had the fight stopped a little too late than too early. JR definitely elevated his status as a top ref in that fight.

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by TheGreg on Jul 6, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ref looked to make sure Brock was still defending and he was

If brocks hands would of dropped the fight would of been over and thats how it should always be.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Jul 6, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

salamagogo

The roles were reversed in the Brock/HH fight. That fight should have been stopped 15 times if you think Saturday’s fight should have been stopped.

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by jay. on Jul 6, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know, i know

There will never be a way to prove it…I don’t think it woulda been questionable either way…like leben/simpson…but dammit, if there were a way to prove it I’d be all over it! sigh I despise brock

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by salamagogo on Jul 6, 2010 2:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Brock Said Afterwards

that Josh R. told him in the locker room he would have three warning if he was taking too much punishment and that last time Brock got back to his feet it was because he had to do something desperate because he felt he already was down two warnings. JR did a brilliant job.

by AintNoSunshine on Jul 6, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

That validates everything I thought. Great job by JR. I was worried at first, thought they’d have Big John ref this one..

by Capnjbrown on Jul 6, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah In His Sportscenter Interview

He said he knew he blew two warnings and had to do something to show he was fighting back.

by AintNoSunshine on Jul 6, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

So it really was damn close to the fight ending. I was really hoping it would!

by Capnjbrown on Jul 6, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear ya

Just sayin Brock has some giant arms, and it must be crazy hard trying to smash through those.. and Carwin was. Awesome talent from both fighters

by Capnjbrown on Jul 6, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

the first one i can remember is Time Bandits or The Never Ending Story

by FatAttack on Jul 6, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never even heard of time bandits.

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by jay. on Jul 6, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

its awsome from what i remember. alot of midgets, so thats all it takes right there

by FatAttack on Jul 6, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Midgets?

I’m in. Love midgets.

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by jay. on Jul 6, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

who doesn’t ? i would love to have one, i would dress him like me and take him to parties. god that would be sweeeeet!

by FatAttack on Jul 6, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

creepy

like clowns.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

my GF freaks out when she see’s the Burger King guy

by FatAttack on Jul 6, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

when you wake up and he is in your bed.

yeah, that is a gun grabbing moment.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well it depends on if he has a sandwich and he’s dressed

by FatAttack on Jul 6, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am shooting him either way.

I will just take the sandwich.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have gun right next to my bed, if i woke and the BURGER KING was laying next to me, id scream like a girl and shit myself

just imagine waking up, blinking a few times and having this under the covers with you

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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 6, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for ruining my sleep tonight

asshole.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

rumor has it

Back in the day freddie mercury of queen used to have parties and he would have midgets walking around with trays topped with cocaine strapped to their heads…talk about a party!

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by salamagogo on Jul 6, 2010 3:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

damn. you guys are old

thanks for making me feel better. I wasn’t old enough to attend that movie alone when it came out.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

They just made this old guy feel a little better.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by DJ Pullout on Jul 6, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

As far as I can tell

Fedor IS M1. So, yeah your big guys goes down, you may have some problems.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

^big guy

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

its their only one right? who else is there

by FatAttack on Jul 6, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe their are others

but no one of note.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moussasi and King Mo I believe

"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."

by Diceman on Jul 6, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just Mousasi but the King Mo loss

definitely puts a mark on him as a bargaining chip. That momentum is gone. Aleks had a falling out with them but he was never that important to the MMA scene.

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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 6, 2010 1:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

and the reports are just rumors

Mmafighting uses some netherlands mma website as their source. The netherlands website has no source, it just says that someone confessed that the employees are no longer at the HQ. Who the hell knows.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotta love journalism in this day and age.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm having a hard time beleiving this statement.

With Fedor’s loss and Dana’s subsequent tirade, I would be surprised if it didn’t have a negative impact on M 1 and scare some of their investors. If nothing else, hopefully this will be helpful for Strikeforce and their negotiations with Fedor.

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by TheGreg on Jul 6, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

If this post stays under 100 comments

I’ll agree

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by Jesse Holland on Jul 6, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol Your Dreaming It Will Get Well Over A Hundred

Fedor + M1 = Dana Debates and Brock Debates Which In Turn = Lots Of Comments

by AintNoSunshine on Jul 6, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

JH isn't dumb.

Kind of like the title over the weekend…“Who won the Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin Fight?” Probably got top 5 on Google.

by Ulf Murphy on Jul 6, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot about that

seriously, had to be top google search. Smart cookie that Jesse.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't.

It was more trying to re-inforce the argument that you and JH were making to Capn Banjo Boy

by Ulf Murphy on Jul 6, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's tough man

takes discipline to stick to the script because we live and die on traffic but every now and then I sneak stuff in just to see if Tom’s paying attention

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by Jesse Holland on Jul 6, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

kinda like the UFC in 2004

the regulars give you enough to eat Ramen, the new traffic gets you more. Must be tough to balance.

You should get yourself some interns; cheap labor for you and tehy get resume builders. Blanket the net like no other.

by Ulf Murphy on Jul 6, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dana will always be interested in Fedor.

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by Jimi_kiss the sky on Jul 6, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not always,

Dana is tired of hearing about him right now, beacuse of how amped up everyone has made him. He is too expensive and is not performing like expcted. Yes i think Dana will be interested once the hype has gone down, and when he is performing to everyones expectations…. Oh and once he is cheaper…

by Capnjbrown on Jul 6, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well....

I think you are right that in the fact that he would be interested still if Fedor wasn’t such a dildo. But now with all the BS I truely believe Dana doesn’t want him, even if it’s only out of spite.

Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.

by JasonFahQ on Jul 6, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no panic, Fedor retains his status in the sport (financially and in terms of perspective). To believe any different is to be out of touch with the business reality of MMA (or any other sport for that matter)

Typical corporate spin. Insult someone’s intelligence for possibly believing.

Although not 100% true (probably), Fedor has lost value (DEFINITELY) and will not command the same negotiating power after this contract with SF. If he loses the next fight, M-1 will fold.

by Ulf Murphy on Jul 6, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

For sure

I just wish we could quantify how much he lost. I guess the only person who would know, would be DW if Fedor did end up signing with the UFC. Compare the undefeated contract offer against the no longer perfect offer.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly ^^

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by Jimi_kiss the sky on Jul 6, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fedor’s loss kills his chance at being marketed in the US. the only thing they had was that he was “unbeatable”. well thats out the window. Strikeforce will not be able to make any money off him now that the casual fan doesn’t want to see him. even if the storys false their all going to lose alot of money

by FatAttack on Jul 6, 2010 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Being unbeatable isn’t the only reason interest is there. Watch how he fights.

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by Jimi_kiss the sky on Jul 6, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

But he won’t be offered 2 mill a fight just to show up any more. UFC would have opened the bank for him, they won’t now.

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by jay. on Jul 6, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

He lost the opportunity to make a lot of dollar!!! Maybe the loss will make him take training more seriously. He’s already a complete fighter and I love how basic his training is, maybe move permanently to the states and relaunch his mythical status and let the film scripts roll.

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by Jimi_kiss the sky on Jul 6, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know how he fights, but there is quite a few guys out there that fight like that, but the casual fan doesn’t know that

by FatAttack on Jul 6, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who??? He has everything.

Submissions – Amazing
Striking – Amazing
Sambo counters wrestling effectively
Cardio – Amazing
Fear – Very little, which is a bad thing, maybe he wouldn’t have jumped into Fedors gaurd if he could contain what happens to him when he sniffs blood

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by Jimi_kiss the sky on Jul 6, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Werdums gaurd, not Fedor 0_o

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by Jimi_kiss the sky on Jul 6, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

guard !!!!! Fail

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by Jimi_kiss the sky on Jul 6, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know hes a badass. all, well most of us know he’s a badass. but you still need something to market him to the casuals

by FatAttack on Jul 6, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t argue with that. He does need to make people see him as almost mythical again, guess he can only do that by beating the best. Undecided if we will ever see him try. Guess if M1 do go bust, or Fedor for once can’t stand public opinion then maybe. Make it happen!!!!

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by Jimi_kiss the sky on Jul 6, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

M1 is Fedor and when he losses they lose when he retires they will be done.

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by Puck Head on Jul 6, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

your pony images

aren’t really funny, at all. My two cents.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

u mean theres mire like that?

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by salamagogo on Jul 6, 2010 1:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

two of them on this thread alone

and pretty sure they were posted on others as well.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 6, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahh, the one up top hadnt loaded at first

Who comes up with these crazy pictures? Haha

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by salamagogo on Jul 6, 2010 1:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

ahh, the one up top hadnt loaded at first

Who comes up with these crazy pictures? Haha

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by salamagogo on Jul 6, 2010 2:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

*more

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by salamagogo on Jul 6, 2010 1:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Dana’s been smart. He acts like no interest until offer the same contract terms to Fedor and this signs with UFC.

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by Eduardo Cruz on Jul 6, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

uh huh. just like how he nailed it with the brandon vera contract?

he sat back and fedor sealed his own fate…there wasnt much dana could do…if he had really come out on top, he would have convinced fedor a year or two ago to join the UFC.

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by SDChief on Jul 6, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps.

But I think Dana publicly stating that he no longer has any interest in Fedor is a great move in that it gives M-1 much less leverage in their dealings with Strikeforce. And if the rumors of a potential M-1 collapse are true then that would put the UFC in a much better position to get him in their promotion. Fedor wouldn’t be the first fighter Dana talked a lot of shit about and then got to join the UFC after his price tag went down.

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by TheGreg on Jul 6, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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