UFC 117: Junior dos Santos and Roy Nelson fighting to decide next heavyweight number one contender
by Jesse Holland on Jul 5, 2010 12:45 PM EDT
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Cain Velasquez is the UFC heavyweight number one contender and will likely fight defending champion Brock Lesnar later this year.
And win or lose, the promotion has already named an upcoming bout to determine which fighter will take his place as potential heir to the throne.
UFC President Dana White has confirmed that the recently announced top contender match-up between Junior dos Santos and Roy Nelson at UFC 117 will decide the next division number one contender when it goes down on August 7 from the Oracle Arena in Oakland, California.
"Cigano" cemented his place among the heavyweight big guns after a string of impressive performances against the likes of former Pride FC star Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic at UFC 103, Gilbert Yvel at UFC 108, and most recently against Gabriel Gonzaga at UFC on Versus 1.
The hard-hitting Brazilian is now right on the cusp of his first opportunity to fight for a world title. A win over Nelson at UFC 117, marking his sixth straight victory inside the Octagon, should finally put him over the hump.
But it won't be easy.
"Big Country" endeared himself to casual MMA fans (not really) by pounding out Kimbo Slice during The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 10 reality show.
After airmailing Brendan Schaub back to Denver at last December's TUF 10 Finale, the portly powerhouse put Stefan Struve on queer street at UFC Fight Night 21 back in March.
If Roy can somehow find a way to put a stop to Junior's meteoric rise up the heavyweight ranks, it will be the last stop on his improbable ascension to the top of the UFC heavyweight mountain.
No gut, no glory.
UFC 117 is set to be headlined by the middleweight title bout between Anderson Silva and Chael Sonnen. Also featured will be perennial top welterweight contenders Jon Fitch and Thiago Alves along with another 170-pound showdown between Matt Hughes and Ricardo Almeida.
For more on UFC 117 click here.
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I think JDS eats up Big Country
Then gets devoured by the Brockness Monster. UFC 117 is a sick card!
Conan : You are known as a striker. Is that correct? Tell me what that means.
Chuck : Well I like to punch people, or kick them.
117 and 118 are both awesome cards. That being said..Big Country FTW.
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oh and I'll add this
once Big country gets him down and pounds him out, it’ll prove JDS had no business with Brock
JDS will take out Nelson then face-off against Cain for the strap
Cain vs. JDS, what a fight!
Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.
Agreed
Shame that 2 great fighters continue to be overlooked, both of them will continue to prove everyone wrong until they finally meet for the belt.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
by David W-S on Jul 5, 2010 9:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I got 2 agree on both accounts Kev and P-Dub
Nelson will take a few shots to get in close and go to the ground and at the same time he does posses the power to KO Dos Santos. But seriously what would they call an event with Brock vs Nelson being the headliner? UFC 125 Muscle and Mush?
by Edgecrusher71 on Jul 5, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
man ya’ll flamed me hardcore and called me a troll when i made my prediction after his season of TUF about roy being in at least a number 1 contenders match by the end of the year and now you are picking him with me? i guess i am no troll
made a bet on mmamania.com with mma guru roy nelson vs junior dos santons, i got roy nelson
by randy murders on Jul 5, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
FUCK YOU TROLL!
j/k I always thought Roy was good but didn’t think he could make it to a #1 contender without some outside help (and no I didn’t flame you for saying it) I still think he could do better just like anyone else with some outside help to push you.
by Edgecrusher71 on Jul 5, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
struve lasted 39 seconds, and schaub what 2 minutes? yeah i would say knocking those 2 out impressively gets you this matchup in a weak division…
who else would be deserving of a fight with jds? mir? mitrione? pat barry? duffee? hague? nope none really deserve the fight any more than big country
i actually said it before he even fought schaub to win the show and people were picking against him calling me a troll and a retard and now here it is roy nelson 1 fight away from a title fight..
shit son
made a bet on mmamania.com with mma guru roy nelson vs junior dos santons, i got roy nelson
by randy murders on Jul 6, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont deny that he deserves to face jds
i dont think beating a nobody in so far in straub, barely a someone in struve, and then beating jds deserves a championship fight for him. i would like him to beat carwin first.
Heavyweights
Brock vs. Carwin = Brock (July 3)
JDS vs. the Fat man = JDS (Aug 7)
End of year
Brock vs. Cain = Brock; a funeral date for Cain will be forthcoming
JDS vs. Carwin = Carwin
Early next year
Brock vs. Carwin = Carwin
Since JDS/Nelson determines the next contender after Brock/Cain...
…I don’t see JDS/Carwin happening unless JDS loses against Roy.
I can see another fight....
I’m going Roy over JDS I just don’t see the winner of this fight having to wait 3 months for the Cain-Brock and then 3 or more for their shot. That’s a 6-7 month layoff? Carwin showed Lesnar true humbleness and may have won if he didn’t cramp up so bad. I think winner of Roy JDS goes thru Carwin for the rematch. Hey they give Penn his shit instantly, haha
Bang the virgins, and defeat the Cults...
I can't see it...
I’ll wait a little bit more before trying to call a winner for JDS/Nelson. IMO, Dana made the match thinking Roy can’t beat JDS. On the other hand, I don’t think he’s given Nelson the credit he deserves for making it this far. And there’s still the question of JDS’s ground game in the octagon.
As for the lay-off for the winner, that’s roughly the same amount of time off for Velasquez if the UFC 119 date for Lesnar/Velasquez holds up, so the UFC obviously has no trouble lining up the contenders in a row and letting them wait. Dana pretty much said as much when he put Cain on the shelf. Remember, people thought Cain/JDS was a viable option for a match before they booked JDS/Nelson and let Cain just wait for his shot. And now that they’ve announced JDS/Nelson gets the Brock/Cain winner, I don’t see them going back on that, barring an injury/interim title situation.
I agree with all of this except not sure about the Fat man not winning
I give Mulletman a 50% shot at winning
Lol tdevine scroll up this page and tell me what the headline says
When jds demolishes that fatfuck, and brock beats cain down they will be fighting and jds will finally have his belt after laying a beating on lesnar.
guru i will not forget our bet
made a bet on mmamania.com with mma guru roy nelson vs junior dos santons, i got roy nelson
by randy murders on Jul 5, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
come on big country!
Represent us round bellied folk!
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by Rampagelangford on Jul 5, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions
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there was a ton of these shirts in mexico LMAO!
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 5, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
JDS is my fav HW,
but I am really worried about Roy beating him
dont sweat it.
JDS is destined for the title.
Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.
Destined for a title SHOT, you mean.
Unless JDS cut off Carwin’s arms and fists and glued them to his own body, he’ll become(in the words of Taz) JUST ANOTHER VICTIM.
I hate this matchup!
because both are likeable guys and I hate to see either one of them fall out of contention :(
The loser might get Carwin wich wouldn't take them out of contenstion
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I think you're right, the loser will get Carwin.
Carwin should take out Country
Using no way as way, having no limitation as limitation.
JDS was more deserving of a title shot than Carwin or Brown Pride, and he somehow landed behind both of them. A win over the guy who should already have been the No. 1 contender should automatically jump to No. 1 himself. Damn, that’s a lot of shoulds.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Same here
I like both guys, very entertaining fighters.
JDS got the best hands in the HW div while Roys got the best belly.
But im pretty sure JDS KO’s Roy, with a small chance that Roys take him down and outworks him on the ground
by Lester The Pimp on Jul 5, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
we might get surprises
alot of people underestimate Cigano’s TDD and hip movement and Big Country’s striking. It’s definitely a very intriguing matchup.
Yeah Big Country had AA down and should of won the fight but the ref stood it up and the rest is history
I don;t think Big K has a chance standing but his stand up is good enough to get in close and possibly make it a grappling match.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
big country has some nasty power standing up he just hardly uses it, he hasn’t really shown everything he has in his arsenal yet and it’s why this fight was made, so he had no choice but to use everything he has to win and he will
made a bet on mmamania.com with mma guru roy nelson vs junior dos santons, i got roy nelson
by randy murders on Jul 5, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i hate this fight for the simple fact im ready to see JDS in a title fight...and i just cant stomach the thought of seeing JDS in a big country crucifix
all pun intended..
the brockness monster grinds up teenagers and puts them in his protein shakes..and uses razor blades to chop toddlers up into lines to snort like meth...the reason no one can find bigfoot is because the brockness monster found him years ago and now has him in numerous ziplock bags in the back of his freezer...
Well JDS needs to be tested on the ground if he can't get by Big Roy
The he doesn’t deserve a title shot. I think we might finally see JDS’s ground game be tested.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
true, carwin couldnt even last a minute and a half on his back against brock
the brockness monster grinds up teenagers and puts them in his protein shakes..and uses razor blades to chop toddlers up into lines to snort like meth...the reason no one can find bigfoot is because the brockness monster found him years ago and now has him in numerous ziplock bags in the back of his freezer...
I don’t see what’s put Cain ahead of jds to be honest I think they should have fought each other to decide the number one contender.
by stebrillz on Jul 5, 2010 1:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Cain's been waiting in the wing
while JDS was punching his way through the division. So Cain deserves the next shot.
JDS will get a chance if he wins, and if he loses he doesn''t really deserve the shot now does he.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Unfortunately the UFC dont share the same common sense as you and I
It’s laughable that Cain and Junior aren’t fighting each other for the next shot. At least they’re finally getting a fair crack at the belt now that the big mouths have been exposed.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
by David W-S on Jul 5, 2010 9:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
cain fights jds it elminates a title fight 3 months after the last one
cain vs brock in september
cain/brock vs jds/big country in december with gsp vs koscheck
see how it works out for them? otherwise it would be cain/jds in oct/september it kinda doesn’t make much sense now does it? not from a business standpoint. from a fan standpoint i totally wanted to see cain vs jds
made a bet on mmamania.com with mma guru roy nelson vs junior dos santons, i got roy nelson
by randy murders on Jul 6, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
JDS told the UFC he wanted to nothing with the belt when NOG was still in the hunt.
I know the UFC is in the wrong time to time but this isn’t one of those times.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Imgaine Big Country vs Lesnar!
Brock Lesnar is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 Brock Lesnar
2 BJ Penn
3 John Fitch
4 Matt Hughes
5 Matt Serra
After JDS decapitates Country, i want Nelson/Mir
I'm Not Afraid Of Dying, I'm A Little Bit Scared Of What Comes After
to be honest i was 100 % sure thats who mir would fight after 111 i cannot believe nelson now has a number 1 contender match
by Andrew Rampage Spratt on Jul 5, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to think..
Dana does NOT expect Roy to win this. JDS has beaten Werdum (the next big thing, apparently), Cro Cop, Gonzaga, Gilbert, and Struve, and he still has to fight once more for a shot at the title. Where-as, Country has been Schaub (who cares?), and an overmatched Struve, and he’s in a contender eliminator match?
He’s had an easier path to the title than even Brock! It really confuses me.
I do, though, view this fight, the same way as I view Jones/Janitor. Bones has destroyed better guys, and now he gets on off night against an unknown. Roy, though, has the chance for an upset. Lets hope for the sake of seeing an eventual great HW matchup, he doesn’t pull it off. Brock or Cain would make him look like a cow being fed to a t-rex.
Janitor isn't no off nite 24-4 is not even close to an off nite
"I'm here for 12 pounds of GOLD and I'm gonna get it on Aug. 7"
"He is the champion but I am the BEST"
"This is gonna be a one-sided pounding and I'm swinging the HAMMER"
CLASSIC LOL
i didnt know it but his only losses are to Lil Nog (won rematch) vernon white (won rematch) Tito Ortiz and AA.
I'm Not Afraid Of Dying, I'm A Little Bit Scared Of What Comes After
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 5, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
He's got a good record
But he’s just an older, slower, weaker and less athletic and inventive version of Bones. Vlads good but I see him getting outclassed in this one.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
by David W-S on Jul 5, 2010 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
nelson
jds should have fought velasquez if they were doing this fight and who has nelson fought to even get this far, its ridiculouse, iin the ufc you either must fight know one and get a shot, for e.g brock lesnar or you must fight a ridiculous amount of people, e.g jo fitch and jds. if by any chance jds loses it would be a stupid decision to give the shot to nelson. could he beat brock,no. could he beat cain.no. so why even bother and give him the shot.
by Andrew Rampage Spratt on Jul 5, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
Okay..
I’m cool with this. Now I’ll get to see Velasquez vs. JDS!! I’m taking Big Country. Fat. Black belt in BJJ, Yeah I’m taking him. Then Carwin will rematch Brock. And Velasquez vs. Nelson
by Future__MMaChamp on Jul 5, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
I hope Big Country wins....
But thats a HUGE jump in competition from Struve to JDS. Roy will find his place in the UFC HW div. after this fight, win or lose.
wow. From Kimbo Slice to a Title Shot.
Talk about Rags to Riches, huh? lol.
Seems like Big Country is being fast tracked to the title shot
Kinda surprised he got JDS already cause the Schaub and Struve wins were good but what were those 2 guys ranked at HW? Nonetheless, he has looked GREAT since the TUF finale. I’ll be super impressed if he beats JDS. Roy is not one to be underestimated. Not sure about who wins this fight.
JDS stepped in because Roy was meant to be fighting Kongo but Kongo got injured.
I think he deserves it his performances after the TUF show he deserves to fight the more elite fighters.
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
yeah
Nelson was supposed to fight Kongo……which is the type of fight he should be fighting next……a Kongo, Gonzaga, Cro Cop…. Guys that are in the mix in the division, just not title contending bouts. JDS hasn’t really defeated anyone at the top of the division, he’s defeated the previously mentioned fighters so I guess the fight makes sense. If Nelson wins, I think he should have to get past Carwin , or Cain if he looses to Brock for a title shot.
However, UFC knows what they are doing……sometimes. Give guys chances. They could have kept Brock fighting a bunch of cans and destroying them because everyone said he hadn’t paid his dues…….look at him now. He’s destroying the top of the division. And yes, anyone who can take a beating like he did, then choke out a guy with poor technique, but brute strength…….that’s considered destroying to me.
Has anyone heard of Brock ever getting knocked out…..in sparing and such. Some guys have a head like a rock……..and if he does……..and it looks like he does……..the only way this guy looses is by a cut….or a freak submission via frank mir. If carwin couldn’t put him away with strikes……….I don’t see anyone in that division doing it.
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