UFC Quick Quote: Brock Lesnar thanks referee Josh Rosenthal after Shane Carwin win
by MMAmania.com on Jul 4, 2010 10:01 AM EDT
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"He hit me pretty good, and I don't know, I ended up there on the ground. I just had to go into survival mode and stay busy. I really have to thank the referee for allowing that thing to go on. I wasn't hurt. I thought if I just kept moving -- I could feel Shane's punches getting less and less -- and I thought, well, if I can get out of here then I'm just going to exert a lot energy. I realized there was [not a lot of time left], so I just tried to stay busy. He's a beast. He definitely won the first round [laughs]."
-- Undisputed UFC Heavyweight Champion Brock Lesnar is quick to thank the "Man in Charge of the Octagon," Josh Rosenthal, shortly after his stunning second round submission win over Shane Carwin in the UFC 116 main event. Lesnar somehow survived a gorilla attack in the opening stanza, getting dropped and then completely overwhelmed with 5XL fists of fury for about four straight minutes. There were numerous times that Rosenthal could have stepped in, but didn't, giving Lesnar the benefit of the doubt and giving way to perhaps the most improbable come-from-behind finish in the history of the promotion. It wasn't the fact that Lesnar was able to rebound -- although that in and of itself was impressive -- but rather the way in which he did it. With his sheer size and strength, now coupled with a decent jiu-jitsu arsenal to go along with his already stellar ground game, is there anyone who can stop the Lesnar 'frate' train? Whoever it is might want to think about bringing a sledgehammer into the cage -- Carwin hit him with everything but the kitchen sink and he still hung in there. Would you have stopped it?
Check out a UFC 116 post-fight video with Lesnar after the jump, during which he talks more about the fight almost being stopped:
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So now he's even
Brock blames the referee for his loss to Frank Mir, now he thanks one for his win over Carwin.
And yeah, it could have easily been stopped but we’ve seen it in the past too often, Shane should have known that no referee who wants to continue working is going to stop it unless Brock is dead.
Oh well. Credit to Brock for surviving, and HUGE disappointment in Carwin for his lack of cardio.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
It's not even at all. He's being respectful. The referee didn't save him, the referee saved himself from making an AWFUL fucking decision. He did Brock no favors, he just did his job right.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
Lack of cardio my ass
Anyone would get tired from trying to finish that fight in a scrambling fashion.
by Edgecrusher71 on Jul 4, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
The fact that it could have been stopped means nothing win you come back and whoop that ass, I would have loved to see brock beat his ass for a couple min first! o well maybe next time.
Banky: Stop the movie? What are you, crazy?
Jay: All these assholes on the internet are calling us names because of this stupid fucking movie.
Banky: That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously. Stopping the flick isn't gonna stop that.
Jay: This isn't fair. We came to Hollywood, I fell in love. Fuckin', we got shot at, we stole a monkey, and I got punched in the motherfucking nuts by a guy named Cock-Knocker.
Good job for not stopping it early
Watching live looked a lot worse that watching replay of the fight afterward. Brock was not dazed other than the initial uppercut that sent him down, and he instinctively switched to defense mode. He timed his activity to show movement between Carwin’s flurries and just weathered the storm while Carwin wore himself out. If he was that hurt, he would have been gassed in round 2. Brock didn’t cuddle into fetal position like Jan Finney.
shane VS cain
thats next , to set up the rematch , or cain , either way thats next
btw , i would have stopped it! – dana white III
by BondTheLaySilva on Jul 4, 2010 11:03 AM EDT reply actions
yoooo.....
did any1 else hop out they seat wen brock sunk in that arm triangle tho?…and srry BTLS but shane vs cain is retarded , why throw a guy who just loss in with the no1 contendor,this isnt strikeforce
"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything" -Malcolm X
i agree with jackanapes
the ref didnt do brock any favours. he kept watch and safety is always 1st. brock was still alive and still moving. i dont know another human being that can do what brock did and weather ther storm of shane carwin. dan mirgliota on other hand gave frank mir lots of chance but mir was knocked out and put to sleep. brock was not knocked out and he for sure wasnt put to sleep. after the carwin domination he got strate back up and walked perfectly normal to his corner. he actually made it back to his feet after them punches. you just got to remeber that carwin put everyone else asleep with just short punches. brock took full swings and got caught with an uppercut strate on the chin. after the 1st round brock had lots of options he could have pounded carwin for the rest of the fight or win the way he did because carwin wasnt in no state to to f*ck all. he was wayyy too gassed. u gotta remeber. carwin has had more experiance, more active, more healthy because brock had life thretning illness but he was still not able to put him away. if carwin couldnt do it then i dont see anyone else do it. and if a rematch happens its gonna be when brock has got into a rhythm and gonna be alot better then what he is because hes still just a learner. it will be the same situation that gsp and bj penn had in their 2nd fight
+1 well said, f1
Brock’s stand-up is so awkward and bad though. He really should focus a lot of time training his stand-up. Primarily boxing.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
I think for this particular fight, this time around
Brock was correct not to focus too much on striking. He loses a striking war with Carwin eight times out of ten (with as much power as Brock has, all it takes is one shot to turn the tide, thus the 20% chance).
He chose to bolster his strengths, rather than patch holes in his game that his opponent will surely maintain an advantage. If you’re totally outclassed in one area, your best bet is to build up an area where your opponent is weakest, then make sure the fight happens there.
I won’t say it was picture-perfect, but the fight did end up going Brock’s way after about three minutes into the first round. Thus, it was a winning gameplan.
You’re right about his stand-up, though. Not sure if he was just timid (he was, definitely) in the standup or if it is legitimately that poor right now (hard to believe, since he looked passable against everyone else he’s fought, even if he’s often mechanical/stiff in his execution).
If you wrap yourself in daffodils, I will wrap myself in pain.
And if you're the queen of California, baby I am the king of the rain.
It is, in all fairness to both fighters,
the most merciful way to end a fight. No long-term damage to your reputation, or your body from a choke. If you can’t breathe or your brain can’t receive blood, there’s no shame in admitting you’re about to go to sleep.
If Brock really was the super-hulk-asshole his detractors make him out to be, he would have thrown some serious GnP on Shane before even looking for a sub. He did the sportsmanlike thing, recognizing his opponent was at a disadvantage in remaining gas in the tank, and went for the quick kill.
If you wrap yourself in daffodils, I will wrap myself in pain.
And if you're the queen of California, baby I am the king of the rain.
From someone
Who really didn’t like Brock Lesnar because of his piss poor attitude and complete lack of any sort of sportsmanship, I have to say that he gained a fan after this fight. He was humble, gracious, humorous, and showed an evolving game which I though he would never do. I thought he would just use his size to take people down and hulk smash them his entire career. Told my girl that I thought this fight would end with someone getting their face smashed in, either Carwin on the feet or Brock on the ground. She told me at least I got the Brock winning on the ground part right.
I’m not sure how much Brock needs to work on his striking. It’s something that he needs to become proficient enough at that it allows him to stick to his game plan, not become his game plan. Make sure he can defend himself well enough to take the fight down to the mat without taking so many shots next time.
Can I mention the complete LACK of BJJ defense from Carwin?
A white belt would have seen that choke coming a mile away…he clearly did not know what to do to defend that.
and then... suddenly... a tear apper in his eye
poor guy… =(
Believe in the Power of One
BJJ defense would not of stopped lesnar going for that choke
Shane was tired.. gassed and done.. thats why lesnar finally got a take down. and finally just put him in a simple choke that anybody could see coming.. He left it all in the ring in the first round. and he simply quit in the second. oh well complete utter domination untill he was so exhausted he could barley stand. yay go brock! lol
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