Dana White: 'There is no way 'Shogun' Rua will return in December'
Quoteworthy:
"This kid keeps pushing it to get out there faster and faster. I completely respect him for that. He's an animal. I love it. But there's no way he's going to be ready by December. People keep asking why he's had so many knee surgeries. That's exactly why he's had that many knee surgeries. I doubt [there will be an interim title]. When we did the belt for Brock Lesnar, we didn't know if Brock was ever going to come back or if he'd be out for a year or two. No interim title. We know this kid is coming back. He's already had the surgery. He knows exactly the date he can come back."
UFC President Dana White nixed the idea of a possible early comeback for the injured Mauricio "Shogun" Rua. Following a recent successful knee surgery, Rua expressed his desire to return to the Octagon sometime this winter, possibly as soon as December. But D.W. doesn't sound like he's having any of that. White added that that a likely return for the new 205-pound champion is spring or even summer of 2011. To Rashad Evans' dismay, White also stated that there will be no interim belt up for grabs while "Shogun" fully recovers. What do we think about Dana's decision? Should we have to wait until next summer to see the best of the light heavyweight division in action?
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Yeah I dont see why he would want to fight Machida for the Interim belt anyway. I think he would just get ko'd again.
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by Jamie The Peach Hunter on Jul 30, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Although it would be better to see Rashad get ko'd again,
then even getting a title shot to begin with.
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Correct
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 31, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Shogun how did you do in the World Cup?
I don’t think I have seen or notice you post since…
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Hello Monkey!
I’ve posted a lot but it’s mostly ‘binge’ postings as i tend to travel a lot over the summer so not always available on Mania..
England were SHOCKINGLY POOR in the World Cup. Yet again they let me down. I’m no longer sticking up for them. We went out against the germans AGAIN via humiliation.
You have to give the germans credit, what they lack in skill they make up for in mental strength, teamwork and passion for playing for the badge NOT the occasion!
Hope you’re good man
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Aug 4, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Rashad had two very weak victories
I dont think he really even deserves a shot at the title honestly… he was almost finished in both of his last two fights, and ended up winning boring decisions in both… make him fight jon jones if he is victorious this sunday, if he wins that give him the shot
by xquisitewretch on Jul 30, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Boring Possibly
Effective vary. I have been screaming for him to stop being a boxer and start dominating the wrestling game. And btw the Rashad vs Jones possibility wont be happening.
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 30, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah the Silva fight wasn't the most exciting fight ever but the Rampage fight had me on the edge of my seat.
Rashad is a pretty good counter puncher in his own right, I wouldn’t risk Jones against him right now might end up hurting your prospects.
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by doonerthesooner on Jul 30, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
wow... if the page/shad fight had you on the edge of your seat you should def check this out

watching it dry is just as exciting! it’s a pure adrenaline rush, you’ll probably damn near fall out of the seat this time!
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
That fight went down exactly how I expected it to and yes it was still very exciting to me.
Shad came out and caught Page of balance and immediately went in to Couture mode then almost got taken out in the third to turn it into a huge double leg takedown. Yeah man the fight had it all for me.
Ride the Tiger!
by doonerthesooner on Jul 30, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Another adrenaline thrill ride for you to check out then, cause I think you'll love this guys show

Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Correct again
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 31, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Glad DW isn't pulling the interim crap with this.
But I don’t really know who they could give Rashad at this point. Shogun is hurt, Thiago is hurt, Machida has a fight, lil Nog has a fight, Bader has a fight, Franklin has a broken arm, Randy has a fight, Jones has a fight. I don’t know if Forest is still hurt, but I doubt anyone wants to see that fight anyways. There aren’t a lot of top contenders available, so should he take on someone like – Hamill, or are we going to have to see friggin Rashad Tito II?
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
oops
I forgot Tito and Hamill were squaring off. Who the hell does Rashad get?
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
How about Rashad vs Cain.
Haven’t heard about Cain since got slapped by little nog. That should be a nice holdover fight.
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I just wonder if Rashad would even take that
Not much of an upside for him there.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
this is when a cross-promotion fight would be great
Rashad v. Mo or Mousasi would be a lot of fun.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Probably Mo; again no upside to Mousasi since his sad loss to MO.
Hey MO! nyuck nyuck nyuck
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
yeah, it would be more fun
But SF wouldn’t risk their champ against anyone but the UFC champ, I would think. Two top contendors would be more doable methinks. This is all fantasy talk anyhow..
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Hell its funtalk so its cool.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
Only to stay busy.
Thus the problem of promising Number 1 spots, no one will want to lose them
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
Dude Rashad aint' fighting anyone..........
He said he has no problem waiting till shogun gets back…………
O_o
even though he doesn't know the date?
so he is going to sit for how long?
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Last weeks' episode of MMA live.....
He said that he has no problem waiting and that this would not actually be his longest layoff, he said the layoff before the chuck fight was longer….
O_o
I just wonder if that will change
when he finds out how long the champ will be out. We don’t even know yet, so it is crazy for me to think that he is fine waiting indefinitely.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Thats what I am sayin, he does not want to lose his number oneness. If thats a word
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Yup that saves you 90 bucks for sure.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
Wouldn't want that she is only used to orgies that involve her and 7 other men of smaller stature.
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Or Aurora (Sleeping beauty)
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i have two kids, no choice. I know way too much animation
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
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by d*locc on Jul 30, 2010 5:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ya plus he gets all the free ESPN shirts and mugs he could ever ask for.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
actually Cain got slapped around by Diabatte at UFC 114 after that, so no, Cain is on his way down, sad to say.
Shogun will have the longest championship reign in the UFC
cain fought again since the nog fight and got ko'd again
dont remember the guy he lost to but the guy was making his ufc debut.
To all three of you, his name is spelled Luiz Cane
Cain = Cain Velasquez
Anyway, I’m glad they won’t be doing an interim title, those things sucks. At the same time I think it’s very unfortunate that Rashad has been promised a title shot after two very unimpressive wins, and that as a result he’ll chose to sit on the side lines like a little bitch. When Shogun does come back, there could be someone else with a stronger case for title shot than Rashad.
by Horselover Fat on Jul 31, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe that he was afraid he would have to fight for an interim belt.....
and not the actual belt……………
O_o
Glad they're not going with the interim paper champion at 205
But it sucks so bad that Shogun is out for so damn long; no title defense till 2011? LAME; but it can’t be helped. Hope all goes well with his knee and he can come back 100%, thing about that is though, with so many surgeries is it even possible to be 100% again??
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions
Sure hope so
This guy is by far my favorite fighter in MMA, always exciting, very humble, the perfect champion… Anderson Silva, take notes
by xquisitewretch on Jul 30, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
So happy there is no more interim.. that was out of control for a while there.
O damn has a great point. All this surgery is a big question mark.
I doubt 100% is attainable again. But he could still be very very good. Shame
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
It's alright,
He’s Brazilian, when that leg falls off he’ll just grown a new one.
Facebook is for gays!!!
I don't think he'll grow a leg, but I do think we'll see a brand new Shogun Rua step back into the Octagon

Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 30, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Who ever gets the 1st title shot has a huge shot
Look at how bad Shogun was against (over 40 and over the hill) Coleman in Ireland. And how he gassed against Griffin. If Shad gets the shot, or even Machida. I’ll be putting money on them
Went to my first jits class. Don't think I was ever so happy with getting my ass handed to me
I forgot it was a contender match up
Between Shad and Page
Went to my first jits class. Don't think I was ever so happy with getting my ass handed to me
not Jon Jones he is still fresh and not in the top 5 yet
Remember sometimes in MMA a victory is a victory. So he has gained the right to fight for the belt. However, a Jones victory over the janitor and then a fight with Griffin will set him up for title contention. Rashad has earned his place no matter how ugly it may be. I think it is better for Shoguns sake to relax that knee and let it heal. Everyday at work i see how knee injuries lead to arthritis, the loss of ligaments and then you get rasping/crepitus with bone on bone and then one needs a complete knee replacement. So Shogun should take his time to heal and get better.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
rashad vs ace?
Not necessarily title implications for franklin..but if shad doesn’t wanna be inactive that long…
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by salamagogo on Jul 30, 2010 3:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
could still happen in future
How long does a broken arm take to heal on average..few months? Depending on the bone and severity obviously
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by salamagogo on Jul 30, 2010 3:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
between injuries and TUF
We are lucky to see the cream of the crop fight once a year…injuries can’t be avoided entirely…TUF tying up the belts can…tuf coaches need to be upper tier guys closing in on a title shot..even havin them number one contenders still ties up the belt.but then I guess there isn’t as much hype or whatever.slightly irrelevant, I know
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by salamagogo on Jul 30, 2010 3:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don't see why they don't use the older fighters for coaches, Mark Coleman, Pat Militich, Bas Rutten etc...
Instead of holding the belt hostage in a division or delaying a great fight so 2 guys that are still relevant can be out of action for 6+ months. It’s ridiculous.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 31, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
On a side note
That’s a guaranteed way for these guys who aren’t fighting or on the down slope of their carreers to get some lime light, some $$ and stay active in the sport if only as a trainer/coach.
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 31, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm still hoping the Griffin/Franklin fight will come to fruition.
Ride the Tiger!
by doonerthesooner on Jul 30, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions
That be a great fight
In that fight we will see Franklin take on a very game opponent…for the 10th straight time. We will also see if Griffins hunger is still alive and well. Griffin seems so different to me since, getting married, like he doesnt care nearly as much as he did. But, Franklin is out for a LONG time with the arm being broken/rehab.
I liked the Rashad/Page fight lol
I’m from Toronto and was watching it in Florida at the nascar bar at Universal. The tension and shit talking between the page/evans fans was a lot of fun. When Page took the 1st shot the place erupted but, when he clocked Shad and went down for some GnP the place exploded lol. On a nother note i fucking hate when a champion goes down right after a huge win just kills their momentum. get well shogun
I think it is smart to pull back the reigns on Shogun
Last thing he needs is to rush back. If it is as long as next summer, I think it would be hilarious if when the UFC finally announces his return date they gave him someone other than Rashad. If Rashad tries to wait it out and get back the belt by picking off a Rua with ring rust from recovery, that would be no less than he deserves. Guys that are active and winning should get to leapfrog Evans. Especially after those last two performances.
Compare a guy like Fitch with Evans. Fitch got beat badly but toughed it out to the decision with GSP. Since then he has, what, four straight wins and still isn’t gauranteed a shot with one more. And he has dominated his opponents. Meanwhile, Rashad got knocked silly in his title fight and each of his fights following that was nearly finished again (if not for his less than aggressive blanket technique to win). That said, Rashad needs to keep working and prove titleshot worthiness.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on Jul 30, 2010 8:47 PM EDT reply actions
I'm happy Rashad won't fight until next summer
seriously guys. If you really wanna see a Rashad fight… turn on an all black gay porn

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