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Dana White: 'I think it's time Yushin Okami got a title shot'

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This Sunday (Aug. 1) the UFC makes its way to the Versus network for the second time this year. Headlining the card will be surging light heavyweight prospect Jon "Bones" Jones taking on the always crafty Vladimir "The Janitor" Matyushenko.

The co-main event of the evening will pit middleweight phenom Mark Munoz against the Japanese grinder Yushin "Thunder" Okami.

Both men are coming off impressive second round stoppages in their previous fights. Okami took out UFC newcomer, Lucio Linhares, via doctor stoppage during their UFC Fight Night scrap back in March.

Munoz was last seen opening the live show for the UFC's first venture to Abu Dhabi for UFC 112 with his fight against Kendall Grove. Mark survived a shaky start and came back with a vengeance in round two, working his violent ground and pound on Grove and finishing the Hawaiian to improve to 8-1 overall.

Last night UFC President Dana White made an appearance on the Versus sports talk show, The Daily Line, to discuss this Sunday's UFC on Versus 2 card. His comments about the middleweight contest should definitely catch the eye (or ears) of Yushin Okami as the boss made the claim for "Thunder" getting a UFC title shot somewhere down the road:

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"I think it's time this guy gets a title shot; he's been here a long time."

What's interesting about these comments is that no one has really considered this fight as a number one contender bout or anything of the sort -- especially with Vitor "The Phenom" Belfort waiting in the wings.

Munoz is riding a three fight win streak, which could argue a number one contender opportunity soon after this fight should he defeat Okami, but Okami is 1-1 in his last two fights.

Prior to the Sonnen fight, Okami had been on the sidelines since 2008. His career has been riddled with decision performances in the past and injuries that have kept him from achieving the status that a lot of MMA fans believe he can reach.

Perhaps the best argument for Okami is the "unfinished business" angle from their 2006 bout under the "Rumble on the Rock" banner in which Okami scored a DQ win over Silva.

The Brazilian has not lost since.

But this will be no easy test for Okami. Munoz is a monster with some of the most vicious ground and pound we've seen in years, and perhaps ever in the history of MMA. Few men are able to throw down the incredibly powerful body shots that this guy can pull of while in someone's guard and if Okami gets stuck under the "Filipino Wrecking Machine" you can bet there will be "Thunder" and lightening waiting for him.

Okami has almost always had the wrestling and ground control advantage over his opponents; that is until he faced Chael Sonnen. Sonnen was able to use his stick-to-you wrestling style to stifle any offense "Thunder" could have gained. With Munoz having just as good, if not a better, wrestling game in his arsenal it will be interesting to see if the "Sonnen Blueprint" can still be used on Okami, or if he's filled those holes in his game.

One thing about Mark Munoz is you always hear great things about him coming from his training camp. That's always the case with fighters and their partners, but with Mark it's different. Much like what we used to see coming out about Cain Velasquez when it was still unknown exactly what he possessed. Time and time again you'll hear tough guys rant and rave about Munoz, the level he's training at currently, and just what he's able to do.

For this training camp he's been training with Anderson Silva, who reportedly told Munoz that "Thunder" won't stand a chance against him, and although that's great praise to be given from probably the best source you could possibly get it, the fact still remains that Anderson Silva is the Middleweight Champion, and Munoz is a middleweight.

So here we're faced with another teammate vs. teammate debate. But I guess we'll "cross that bridge when we get to it."

In the meantime, does Okami deserve a title shot with a win over Munoz? Or should he fight Vitor Belfort in a number one contender match?

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needs more activity and to keep winning.

The last fight I saw him win was against Evan Tanner and Dean lister…. title shot?
Not so fast… let’s see some wins first.

Or should Clay Guida start preparing for BJ or Frankie too?

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by Bigger Zino on Jul 30, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

He's like 7-2 in the UFC. MW is running out of

challengers – if Palhares beats Marqy, he’ll be behind him. Vitor hasn’t done anything at 185. Catchweight fights shouldn’t decide contendership. Even then Okami can still come after him. You literally have no one after that….no one.

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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 30, 2010 12:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Seems logical to me

The problem is that Okami is so hit and miss with injuries… I wouldnt be surprised if he scheduled for a title shot and got hurt anyways… That just how the dudes cycle goes. I would like to see him get a win here, then another win against the winner of marq/palhares.. if that happens, then give the dude a shot. No reason not to at that point really

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by enzo-enormous on Jul 30, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only issue i see with giving him the winner of Marquardt/Palhares

is that you’d be eliminating another contender at the same time. I don’t think the UFC would want to do that. Its the same issue they would have had if Cain and JDS fought. I think they give Okami another fight with a big name, even if its a catchweight fight, and give him the title shot…or they give it to the winner of Marquardt/Palhares and that way you have someone waiting for the winner of the title shot or IF the contender gets hurt.

I think you give him the loser of Silva/Sonnen because neither of those guys is going to go down to the very bottom of the list with a loss. Specially not Silva. Or give him Cote…you’d be giving him a recognizable name and someone who was a Contender for the belt just over a year ago.

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by Onemansyn on Jul 30, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with

most of what you are saying. Not the Cote part tho. He isn’t even a contender in my book. He needs to get healthy and take some lower fights. Not really warm ups, but not contender fights. He needs to get back in to the game before he gets a number one contender fight

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by enzo-enormous on Jul 30, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well my thought wasn't for it to be a number one contender fight

There’s been fights where one fighter benefits more than another from a win. If Okami wins, he’s a number one contender for beating a PREVIOUS contender. If Cote wins, its a good win for him and he is back in the title race. I don’t think Cote is a contender at the moment, just a good name and fight for Okami.

I’m thinking more along the lines of name recognition than actual number one contender fights. There’s also Chris Leben who’s on a tear at the moment. A victory vs him would certainly credit a title shot for Okami in my eyes. But again, I think if Sonnen loses and he can fight him and avenge his loss…why not title shot then?

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by Onemansyn on Jul 30, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I gotcha

That makes much more sense lol.. I read it wrong before

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by enzo-enormous on Jul 30, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said it in another forum.....

I think if Palhares beats Nate they will attempt to bring Silva vs Palhares to Brazil. Silva is from Southern Brazil and Palhares is from the North East. It will be the dividing of Brazil with all the segregation coming back.

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by DJ Pullout on Jul 30, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not a huge fan at all

But I’ve seen a lot of ppl make the comment that his GnP is the best we’ve seen..that was the reason that part was added. Not really my personal opinion.

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by MMAdams on Jul 30, 2010 5:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's powerful, but not that technical from what I've seen

He’s definitely no Fedor. I think most good guard players would tie him into a knot.

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by Johnny WF on Jul 30, 2010 10:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Its about time!

I am a HUGE Okami fan but I am also half Filipino so this is a real difficult match up for me as a fan. But looking at both of their strengths and weaknesses, if Okami can land a few punches flush, I think Munoz will get knocked out. Obviously if you can get KTFO by Matt Hamill and almost KO’d by Kendall Grove, your chin is weak…On the other side, Okami’s weakness is that overpowering wrestling style which Munoz has in spades, coupled with devastating GnP. Should be a fun match to watch.

by jriddle89 on Jul 30, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought Hamill killed him,

I don’t think Munoz chin sucks he just doesn’t cover up when he shoots and his striking defense is beyond horrible. Okami I think will get the TKO early unless Munoz runs him over GnP his way to a win.

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by doonerthesooner on Jul 30, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct me if I am wrong

Didn’t munoz get kicked in the face. I believe 95% of chins would give way if you got a heel up your jaw. So Dooner is right its more of defense and counter striking and avoid getting stuck in a punching war. He’s got to shoot and make Okami tentative about exchanging with him.

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by dandeman on Jul 30, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya I just rewatched that, so I would

question anyone making statements about his jaw. But recovery is tough especially once your bell has been rung and your seeing rainbows and lollipops dancing in front of your eyes.

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by dandeman on Jul 30, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Okami ever gets a titleshot

Its because he’s asian.
Just like how Cain and Hardy got their shots, its all about the $.

by Lester The Pimp on Jul 30, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Hes not marketable

I dont think any fighter has been passed up more than him. Problem is, he needs wins now, his time was a few years ago.

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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 30, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

or because dana's still pissed at silva

And thinks okami has a shot at beating him,assuming he beats sonnen,which I hope he doesn’t. I respect andys skills, I just can’t root for someone who seems to be so cocky

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by salamagogo on Jul 30, 2010 12:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Looking for a way into Japan

They’re looking for a Japanese hero to market their way into Japan finally. The problem is neither Okami nor Gomi are those guys anymore. Neither can even string together enough wins in the octagon to be considered for a title shot.

I always thought the answer would’ve been to bring the popular ex-Pride fighters to Japan. Put on a show with Wandy, Cro Cop, Shogun, etc in Japan. They love those guys. They’d probably also eat up Brock Lesner since apparently the Japanese public is intrigued by gigantic fighters.

by mikemick on Jul 30, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point on breaking into Japan

However I doubt that the Japanese public would embrace Brock, he went into pro wrestling over there after his NFL career and was a big flop, the shows he main evented had horrible ratings and attendances and in the end the promotion released him the first chance that they got. Unlike other American monsters like Sapp, the Japanese fans didn’t embrace Brock and I don’t think he’d be that big a draw over there.

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by David W-S on Jul 30, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats right.

ALL of these Japanese fighters, and the vast majority of ex-Pride fighters have failed to make a dent in the UFC. Now some have had luck in the WEC, but most are young up-and-comers, still trying to make a name in Japan (or Korea). All it will take is 1 Jap. fan-fave to string together a few wins, and maybe they will start watching (at least Dana hopes).

by butsecks on Jul 30, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's our Lester!

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by daniel worby on Jul 30, 2010 12:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Orrrr...

It might be that his only two UFC losses have been to a champion and a #1 contender.
He’s damn good. Just not white enough for you, I take it?

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by Johnny WF on Jul 30, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

I think what he’s saying he doesn’t think Okami stirs up enough interest to be a big draw in an Asian market the way the UFC used GSP in Canada, which is especially surprising because I always thought Canadians hated anyone from Quebec.

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by doonerthesooner on Jul 30, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

This isn't the first time Lester's used race as an excuse to bash a fighter

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by David W-S on Jul 30, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get that DW wants that market

but to say that is the only reason, while negating any skill of Okami, just seems, well, a little insensitive.

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by Deuce02 on Jul 30, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Okami vs. Belfort is a bad matchup

I think Okami vs. Belofrt is a bad matchup for Vitor. Vitor has never done very well against good wrestlers and Okami has good wrestling. I think Vitor is great when people fight his game thats why the AS matchup is so exciting. Vitor has never been beaten standing up but he has been beaten numerous times when guys take him down and ground and pound. I think AS still takes the win but it would be exciting…I think lol who knows with AS he can make any fight boring and they both are counter punchers.

by mmaforever on Jul 30, 2010 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

come on now dana

just because hes been there a long time does not mean he should just get a title shot, but wait. the division has been pretty cleaned out by the champ so the ufc is kind of running out of options here. unless sonen wins, then id like to see okami get in there and mix it up with “the republican”

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by child on Jul 30, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

You know sonnen beat okami not too long ago?

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by salamagogo on Jul 30, 2010 12:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

ya like less than a year ago i think

i just want them to go at it again and have okami win this time, cause if munoz and silva win, they wont fight since they train together

never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do

by child on Jul 30, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Munoz's wrestling is not as good as Sonnen's

At least he hasn’t demonstrated it yet. He has some stellar college credentials, but we’ve yet to see it reflected in the octagon. Sonnen, on the other hand, controlled two guys who are known for their strength and ground skills in Okami and Marquardt.

We’ve been hearing so much about Munoz and his training and nothing about Okami. Hopefully he’s been working hard for this fight because, despite what I wrote above, Munoz might very well put him on his back.

by Pantherhare on Jul 30, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Okami wrecks him standing for a UD.

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by Johnny WF on Jul 30, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup, I see a long night ahead of Munoz.

by HappyLittleTreez on Jul 30, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okami vs Belfort sounds good

I thought Vitor was being rushed to a title shot anyway, let these two have a shoot out for the no.1 contender spot.

by Michael Cunningham on Jul 30, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Okami’s overrated.

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by Eduardo Cruz on Jul 30, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Okami's striking will be the difference

Munoz is a big guy with excellent wrestling and vicious ground and pound but his striking is very sloppy, he’s too easy to hit and his chin isn’t the best. Okami’s striking is getting a lot better and whilst I don’t think that he’s as good a grappler as Mark I do give him a big advantage on the feet, if he utilises his reach and takes advantage of Mark’s poor defence then this is his fight to win. I’d rather see Munoz win and I’ll be cheering him on but I’m not convinced that his striking is good enough to beat the likes of Okami.

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by David W-S on Jul 30, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

How long do you have to keep that sig up, lol? You’ve had it for quite a while, now.

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by frosnt1 on Jul 30, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just too lazy to take it down haha

Oh well I’ve got another sig and pic bet coming up with Syn on JDS-Nelson so I’ll have my revenge soon enough. I’ll probabaly change it after this weekend.

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by David W-S on Jul 30, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

naw

okami is good but he has a very boring style fans dont want a boring champion and who has he beat recently to deserve a shot??

by bmiller-mma on Jul 30, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Dana has said this before . . .

Okami deserved his title short a LONG time ago.

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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 30, 2010 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

explain why though... I like Okami I've just never seen him as a #1 contender

He lost to Franklin at 185… And Sonnen recently.

I like him. But i don’t get it.

Swick, JMac, Lister, Rory Singer etc… I like his win over Belcher – which is – a rematch I’d like to see in 2010.

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by Bigger Zino on Jul 30, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Explain why?

Dana said prior to the Franklin fight that Okamii deserves a title shot. He also said it prior to Dan Henderson coming to the UFC and prior to his cut to 185lbs.

  • Okami did not look bad against Franklin.
  • Okami was supposed to face Silva in UFC90 but he injured his hands and that’s how Patrick Cote received his title shot.

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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 30, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

not being a dick.. but tell me something I don't know

nothing appeals to rationalizing why he is a clear cut #1 contender.

Not then… not today. Granted the MW division always struggles with depth. Especially a couple years back. But there has always been someone better available.

If Okami beats Munoz., even convincingly – he’s got more work to do.

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by Bigger Zino on Jul 30, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think a rematch with Belcher is key at some point.

"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."

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by Bigger Zino on Jul 30, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

I mean, I understand you think Okami needs to beat more guys to be considered a number one contender, but why Belcher in particular?

by Pantherhare on Jul 30, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

just general interest. Nothing beyond that other than a fans desire.

Belcher has been a lot better and I’d just like to see the contrast of then and now. I guess it wouldn’t do much for the rankings if Alan doesn’t beat Maia.

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by Bigger Zino on Jul 30, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

in fairness

Okami would have been a WAY better fill than Leites, Maia, cote (his injury replacement). Not sure how he gets a title shot today tho. If he beats Munoz (easier said than done) maybe set up with winner or Marquardt/Palhares!!!!!

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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 30, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

had he beat Sonnen I think his outlook would be different.

but he lost that fight… and he admitted he was suprised he was controlled in such a way.

Munoz is the not the guy to propel you to #2 in a divinsion. Palharas/Marq is the #1 contender match. Okami – another couple of W’s… sure.

"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."

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by Bigger Zino on Jul 30, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

and lets not forget Dana gave him a #1 contender match against Franklin

he lost.

Losing to Franklin then… and Sonnen recently. Set back. What can you do.

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by Bigger Zino on Jul 30, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your right Zino, he just has to work up to a title fight.

I can see where people would argue about Okami, but if you blow your opportunity by either injury or loss then you stuck climbing back up that ladder. It may not be fair, it may not be right; but its life and one has to continue to prove themselves in every fight.

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by dandeman on Jul 30, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can live by this

so if Nate/palhares is for a title shot the give Okami the loser. He beats munoz, then that fight and hes right thre

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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 30, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Okami has to work his way back up. I think a match against Belfort sounds credible if he gets past Munoz. Okami is a guy who had 3 and 4 consecutive victories in the UFC. I think he’s one crowd-pleasing victory away from a title shot.

Sonnen lost to Maia early last year. His next 3 victories were progressively better especially the Marquardt fight.

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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 30, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The UFC would make this fight happen so Silva can avenge one of his losses

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by Puck Head on Jul 30, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, not really. Silva never expressed an interest in avenging the lost.

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by VeeisAnimated on Jul 31, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okami is a boring fighter and he is not a top level guy.

Shit, Phil Baroni has been around there a long time too, give him a title shot. haha I don’t blame Dana for trying to bring the UFC into other places and enlarge the fan base but quit trying to act like fighters like Bisping and Okami are top level guys.

by tjvance on Jul 30, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

youre not familiar with Okami huh

I see it something like this
Ando
Chael
Nate
Vitor
Okami
Wand
Belcher
BisPING

Okami/Marquardt would be a great fight, too.

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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 30, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

although i hate to tell you...

we all have to add Leben to the list now. Look at his record and consider his last three wins. It’s time to concede his props. Not that Im at all happy about it.

And pulling off what he just did with the short notice and than Akiyama fight… crazy. Aki is fighting Bizzy next so automatically I’d put Leben above..

Andy
Chael
Nate
Leben
Wand
Maia
Vitor
Bisping
Akiyama
Belcher
Okami

Belcher

"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."

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by Bigger Zino on Jul 30, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

scratch out that mistake at the bottom

"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."

Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15

by Bigger Zino on Jul 30, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

but def not number 4. I would pick AGAINST leben in fights with Belcher, wand, vitor, okami. i also think Okami would tool bisPING, leben, maia, akiyama, belcher (he did), and hed be a good bet against wand as well.

scratch belcher off? he is just hitting his stride, this kid. belcher vs any of those guys is a good fight. hed be the dog against all but i wouldnt count him out. probably a slight favortite over leben as well.

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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 30, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wasn't scratching Belcher off. I had him at the bottow via typo

Okay okay… Leben at 4 is drastic but you get the idea.

Shit I still want to argue Cote is top 10 but that isn’t possible right now.

"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."

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by Bigger Zino on Jul 31, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

you'll have to wait for that argument lol!

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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 31, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he's a bad fighter

but I don’t think I would put him in that list, I know I wouldn’t put Bisping in that list. I can somewhat see the argument for Okami though. He has beat some big name fighters.

by tjvance on Jul 31, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go thunder!!!

I’d love to see leben vs okami if okami wins, both have good chins and are durable and okami can continue his destruction of tuf guys, also he can avenge his buddy akiyama

by four20 on Jul 31, 2010 2:35 AM EDT reply actions  

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