Impact FC: Salaries not coming from a land down under
If a fighter travels to Australia to compete on a pay-per-view that's being headlined by Ken Shamrock vs. Pedro Rizzo, the chances are pretty good that they did it because they needed the money.
And it the unfortunately case of Impact FC, they may not get it.
Cage Potato reveals that most, if not all of the combatants who participated on the Impact FC fight cards on July 10 (Brisbane) and July 18 (Sydney) are not in receipt of their complete fight purses.
Karo Parisyan, Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou and Jesse Taylor have since confirmed the report.
And it may come as a complete shock (not really) that the failure to compensate said fighters stems from a lack of communication/cooperation between the financial backer and the MMA promoter.
First up is Impact FC financial backer Andrew McManus, as he throws promoter Tom Huggins under the bus:
“[Tom] Huggins has run back to Brazil and is uncontactable, whilst I (who never negotiated, contracted or was a party to any deal) have now been left trying to find funds to pay the men whilst all the false promises of sponsorships (never happened) and late gate sales and walk up all turned out to be lies.”
Huggins, naturally, didn't appreciate the accusations (or the tire marks):
“That statement is categorically untrue. I can provide you with the agreement between Andrew and myself, which clearly demonstrates that my responsibility was to procure fighters and make matches for the event within a given budget. The agreement clearly shows that ALL of the financing for the events, including fighter purses, was the responsibility of McManus. That being said, I feel that at the end of the day McManus being the professional that he is will fulfill his obligations and that the fighters will be paid.”
There's much more to the story over at Cage Potato but in the end there is really only one thing that matters: A group of fighters who are trying to make a living traveled to Australia to compete. They held up their end of the bargain and now it's time for someone at Impact FC to hold up theirs.
There's a lot of heat on the UFC for the low pay scale that up-and-coming fighters receive when competing inside the Octagon for the first time. But they can at least rest assured that win or lose, they're still getting paid. That's one of the unspoken benefits of competing under the jurisdiction of a state athletic commission.
Stay tuned for further details to this developing story as they become available.
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Not cool!
I hate when promotions don’t pay their fighters, f*cking bullshit!
Facebook is for gays!!!
SCREW YOU IMPACTFC!
You definately didn’t spend the money on good commentary or camera men, but I paid you for your BS!
PAY YOUR FIGHTERS! I will never order one of their shows again if this isn’t resolved now.
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
Yeah, it's not cool
I hate when I hear about sponsors doing the same thing too. Spencer Fisher and Kit Cope are owed a crapload of money by Toe 2 Toe, and they are not paying up either. Spencer made a post on the UG, and a ton of fans e-mailed Toe 2 Toe and destroyed their facebook page, but still no money for Spencer.
why do they owe him money
is it just sponsor money or something more? do they not contract it or something?
Please don't ever let Carwin fight Big Nog! It would result in death
Can't decide who I hate more, Penn or Edgar
as far as I know
it’s just sponsor money. He is taking legal action now, but they are trying to use the fact that he went public about it on the forums against him.
WOW.
Should be arrested
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Probably not the best bunch of guys to piss off to be honest.
I hope someone from the card tracks down the promoters and dishes out some old fashioned justice. Then again when we’re talking about Shamrock and Jesse Taylor you could probably get away with some kind of Jedi mind trick… “I’m not the promoter you’re looking for… It’s that agro baldy fuck from the UFC you’re really after…”
Funny shit Jimrod
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Disgraceful
These scumbags should be locked up. This is why MMA needs to be regulated internationally, that’s the only way that these lying crooks won’t be able to get away with cheating fighters out of money. These hacks that call themselves promoters will continue to tarnish the sport and screw over the athletes unless something is done, I hope that these 2 jokers are arrested and made an example of.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
I blame the commission first. Then the promoters.
Idiot promoters who see $$$ in MMA are a dime a dozen- Nothing new especially when they see how hard the PPV model is. However, it’s the commission’s job to protect fighters from such idiocy as well as many other things. But no i bet they took their cut for running the event and all the licensing fees and etc…..but when it came to actually doing their fucking jobs always nothing.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 29, 2010 4:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is there even a commission in Australia?
I don’t think there was any proper regulation from an outside commission for this show. If there is one then they are absolute garbage and deserve as much blame as these 2 scumbags.
Loads of dodgy dealings going on in Australian combat sports at the moment, first that boxer taking a dive against Danny Green now this.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
Daniel Wallaby
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 5:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Haha
I’d trust the Australian you over the current lot to govern Australian MMA anyway, even if you tried to ban Brock and Dana.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
that would be my first rule of order
My second would be "No Elvis Sinosic’s. Just cause its in Aussie, don’t mean we need him on the card.
Once we swelled to your homeland, I promise no Dollaway’s, Dollars, Pearson’s and so on just cause its in the UK.
My third rule of order would be that if any of those 3 fighters aren’t from the UK no one points it out. Or they’ll never fight in Worbys Wallaby Championship (WWC) again.
Like gravy, I got it all smoverred
Like makeup, I got it all coverred
by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 7:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bullshit!!!!!
These guys work their asses off and to turn around and get stiffed on a paycheck totally sucks!
by silent assassin on Jul 29, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions
1. Fly to Australia on your own dime = $900
2. Get yourself room and board = $1000
3. Take a few shots to the face in the name of competition = $ debatable
4. Take a shot to the nuts while getting bent over by some shady promoters = $ priceless
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
$900 to Austrailia?? I doubt it...
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I was trying to come up with a round number
that might work from various locations. but yeah, I was being a little generous there.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
cost me $1600 1 way in 1999
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
aaahhhhhh
the good ol’ gay sex pile, “aint gonna be no future for those goo backs! they took rrr jobs!”
never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do
from Toronto to Sydney is 28 hours...including 1 2 hour stop over...thats a good deal....1 way is usually close to 2K..ever been to Australia?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
IF you can make it cheap to LA i have a deal on Orbitz for you.
Roundtrip: from $863
10:32 pm Depart Los Angeles (LAX)
Arrive Sydney (SYD) 6:10 am +2 days Thu 12-Aug
Duration: 14hr 38mn UNITED 839
Nonstop flight
i just bbm'd a gf that came back from there less then a month ago
She said she paid $1700. One way. To Saskatchewan Canada. Little further then Mac would go, but I’m sure similar in cost.
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 5:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I can probably find you a better deal.
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
I have this price from Toronto; Round Trip
C$1,250
Fare sold in US$: US$1,208 Toronto (YYZ) to Sydney (SYD)
Flying with Delta Air Lines Depart Aug 12 10
Return Aug 19 10
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
it is so cheap because no one goes to AUS for 7 days.
You lose 2 full days to travel time and probably most of another to jet lag.
Hell, I can hardly go to Europe (8 hour flight) for only 7 days and fell like it is worth my time.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
i just like to hop in my private jet
then i can go anywhere
never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do
okay i think i got er now
Dandeman is a travel agent who’s paid on commission.
McArthur seemingly paid a respectable number that potentially was a little much, but not by much.
And Child is a liar.
Covered em?
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 6:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that would be a yes
for me at least…
never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do
Thats my side job, i do work for SSA handling disablity cases
I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!
haha figured...
I’d wait for Mac to confirm as well, but he’s probably on hold waiting to make payment arrangements for his 99 trip.
Guy got screwed!!!
Like gravy, I got it all smoverred
Like makeup, I got it all coverred
by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 7:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Haven’t been, but was exploring vacation ideas there a few years back. I remember it being around a grand round trip from LA
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
by Deuce02 on Jul 29, 2010 7:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ya thats because its winter there right now...
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I went in 2002. We flew out od phx and had a week layover in hawaii then flew to australia. And it all cost me like 1500 that’s with a week layover. It doesn’t shock me seeing as how its 350 bucks to take a 45 min flight to vegas. I’ve seen it cheaper but plane tickets are just plain rediculous
by LOKIE on Jul 30, 2010 8:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It is all supply/demand
It costs me $600 round trip to Philly from Pittsburgh on Monday morning coming back on the red eye.
I went to Fort Myers, Fl from Pittsburgh for $140 round trip last month (7 days).
All about what everyone is willing to pay.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
These fools should be locked up in a cage with all the fighters on the card that have not been paid, id say for a good 2 minutes.
Shogun will have the longest championship reign in the UFC
i completely
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 5:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
agree?
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 29, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
bwahahahaha... what a
Like gravy, I got it all smoverred
Like makeup, I got it all coverred
by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 11:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
These fools should be locked up in a cage with all the fighters on the card that have not been paid, id say for a good 2 minutes.
Shogun will have the longest championship reign in the UFC
...agree with you
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nice moves worbs
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
by Deuce02 on Jul 29, 2010 7:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i'm a thinker
I like to save some guys humility.
Wait, what were we talking about again?….
Like gravy, I got it all smoverred
Like makeup, I got it all coverred
by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 8:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ah shit you got me…….i should scroll down a bit before commenting
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 29, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
....sucker!
Like gravy, I got it all smoverred
Like makeup, I got it all coverred
by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 11:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
this promotion should be out of business. i hope all fighters boycott these crooks.
i blame the commissions for letting this happen and the fighters if this org has a history of stiffing fighters.
by Conan the Barbarian on Jul 29, 2010 6:05 PM EDT reply actions
They've only done 2 shows in the space of a week so they don't have a history period
Typical crooks promising big money to entice popular but desperate fighters only to screw them over. Looks like Bob Sapp had the right idea afterall.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
If I was Dana White
I’d jump in and help compensate these guys, I mean probably wouldn’t cost that much in the large scheme of things, and it would make ImpactFC look just horrendous while making the UFC look ‘the sport’ even more so.
Small price for that type of publicity.
Shogun lost a close decision! Everyone get crazy!
ShaiZ works for Strikeforce Dakatak. it's a trick!
Like gravy, I got it all smoverred
Like makeup, I got it all coverred
by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 8:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I scoffed at first glance
But if you think about the pr that would generate. Great outside the box idea.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
by Deuce02 on Jul 29, 2010 8:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah and next week I'm gonna hold an event in my backyard with Fedor, Barnett, AA....
Not pay them a dime and wait for Zuffa to rescue me too. It’s a slippery slope for them to start paying for every failed organizations debts. He doesn’t want them around to begin with, I doubt he’ll ever help one.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
fkn Andrew McManus
This guy is very shady… he is currently at the center of the Salary cap rort for one of the biggest footy teams in Australia. Very dodgy bloke, not the first time he has been quick to point the finger at someone else also. Hope the fighters get paid their due. A few, including Filho are still out here trainig at local gyms.
F*ck ImpactFC
Not only is that a blow to the fighters, but it’s a blow to the fans who shelled out the money to buy the PPV! That’s some real BS and I hope the fighters get some kind of compensation.
SCREW YOU!!!
People are suprised? lol
The business model and promoting is exactly the same as pro wrestling. The walk-out music, the pre fight hype videos, when Zuffa took over it was identical. The seperation is the actual sport of mma. McManus is a wrestling promoter who promoted a very unsucessful World Wrestling All-Stars tour. He is wrestling promoter and the funny thing is, that it happens all the time. Imagine how many hard working fighters who attended vale tudo events where robbed or never paid, countless. Fight/Wrestling Promoters are scumbags ayt heart.
they go out there and put their lives on the line to fight for cash, then dont get paid....sheesh...
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