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Impact FC: Salaries not coming from a land down under

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If a fighter travels to Australia to compete on a pay-per-view that's being headlined by Ken Shamrock vs. Pedro Rizzo, the chances are pretty good that they did it because they needed the money.

And it the unfortunately case of Impact FC, they may not get it.

Cage Potato reveals that most, if not all of the combatants who participated on the Impact FC fight cards on July 10 (Brisbane) and July 18 (Sydney) are not in receipt of their complete fight purses.

Karo Parisyan, Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou and Jesse Taylor have since confirmed the report.

And it may come as a complete shock (not really) that the failure to compensate said fighters stems from a lack of communication/cooperation between the financial backer and the MMA promoter.

Star-divide

First up is Impact FC financial backer Andrew McManus, as he throws promoter Tom Huggins under the bus:

“[Tom] Huggins has run back to Brazil and is uncontactable, whilst I (who never negotiated, contracted or was a party to any deal) have now been left trying to find funds to pay the men whilst all the false promises of sponsorships (never happened) and late gate sales and walk up all turned out to be lies.”

Huggins, naturally, didn't appreciate the accusations (or the tire marks):

“That statement is categorically untrue. I can provide you with the agreement between Andrew and myself, which clearly demonstrates that my responsibility was to procure fighters and make matches for the event within a given budget. The agreement clearly shows that ALL of the financing for the events, including fighter purses, was the responsibility of McManus. That being said, I feel that at the end of the day McManus being the professional that he is will fulfill his obligations and that the fighters will be paid.”

There's much more to the story over at Cage Potato but in the end there is really only one thing that matters: A group of fighters who are trying to make a living traveled to Australia to compete. They held up their end of the bargain and now it's time for someone at Impact FC to hold up theirs.

There's a lot of heat on the UFC for the low pay scale that up-and-coming fighters receive when competing inside the Octagon for the first time. But they can at least rest assured that win or lose, they're still getting paid. That's one of the unspoken benefits of competing under the jurisdiction of a state athletic commission.

Stay tuned for further details to this developing story as they become available.

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Not cool!

I hate when promotions don’t pay their fighters, f*cking bullshit!

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 29, 2010 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

SCREW YOU IMPACTFC!

You definately didn’t spend the money on good commentary or camera men, but I paid you for your BS!

PAY YOUR FIGHTERS! I will never order one of their shows again if this isn’t resolved now.

Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.

by JasonFahQ on Jul 29, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's not cool

I hate when I hear about sponsors doing the same thing too. Spencer Fisher and Kit Cope are owed a crapload of money by Toe 2 Toe, and they are not paying up either. Spencer made a post on the UG, and a ton of fans e-mailed Toe 2 Toe and destroyed their facebook page, but still no money for Spencer.

by LJ. on Jul 29, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

why do they owe him money

is it just sponsor money or something more? do they not contract it or something?

Please don't ever let Carwin fight Big Nog! It would result in death

Can't decide who I hate more, Penn or Edgar

by ufcaddict on Jul 29, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

as far as I know

it’s just sponsor money. He is taking legal action now, but they are trying to use the fact that he went public about it on the forums against him.

by LJ. on Jul 30, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

WOW.

Should be arrested

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by DJ Pullout on Jul 29, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably not the best bunch of guys to piss off to be honest.

I hope someone from the card tracks down the promoters and dishes out some old fashioned justice. Then again when we’re talking about Shamrock and Jesse Taylor you could probably get away with some kind of Jedi mind trick… “I’m not the promoter you’re looking for… It’s that agro baldy fuck from the UFC you’re really after…”

by Jimrod on Jul 29, 2010 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Funny shit Jimrod

A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky

by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disgraceful

These scumbags should be locked up. This is why MMA needs to be regulated internationally, that’s the only way that these lying crooks won’t be able to get away with cheating fighters out of money. These hacks that call themselves promoters will continue to tarnish the sport and screw over the athletes unless something is done, I hope that these 2 jokers are arrested and made an example of.

I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.

by David W-S on Jul 29, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I blame the commission first. Then the promoters.

Idiot promoters who see $$$ in MMA are a dime a dozen- Nothing new especially when they see how hard the PPV model is. However, it’s the commission’s job to protect fighters from such idiocy as well as many other things. But no i bet they took their cut for running the event and all the licensing fees and etc…..but when it came to actually doing their fucking jobs always nothing.

Big Nog for Life
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 29, 2010 4:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is there even a commission in Australia?

I don’t think there was any proper regulation from an outside commission for this show. If there is one then they are absolute garbage and deserve as much blame as these 2 scumbags.

Loads of dodgy dealings going on in Australian combat sports at the moment, first that boxer taking a dive against Danny Green now this.

I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.

by David W-S on Jul 29, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daniel Wallaby

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 5:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

LOL!!

I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!

by dandeman on Jul 29, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

I’d trust the Australian you over the current lot to govern Australian MMA anyway, even if you tried to ban Brock and Dana.

I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.

by David W-S on Jul 29, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would be my first rule of order

My second would be "No Elvis Sinosic’s. Just cause its in Aussie, don’t mean we need him on the card.

Once we swelled to your homeland, I promise no Dollaway’s, Dollars, Pearson’s and so on just cause its in the UK.

My third rule of order would be that if any of those 3 fighters aren’t from the UK no one points it out. Or they’ll never fight in Worbys Wallaby Championship (WWC) again.

Like gravy, I got it all smoverred
Like makeup, I got it all coverred

by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 7:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bullshit!!!!!

These guys work their asses off and to turn around and get stiffed on a paycheck totally sucks!

by silent assassin on Jul 29, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

1. Fly to Australia on your own dime = $900
2. Get yourself room and board = $1000
3. Take a few shots to the face in the name of competition = $ debatable
4. Take a shot to the nuts while getting bent over by some shady promoters = $ priceless

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 29, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

$900 to Austrailia?? I doubt it...

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was trying to come up with a round number

that might work from various locations. but yeah, I was being a little generous there.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 29, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

cost me $1600 1 way in 1999

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy jesus

sounds like you got raped a bit.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 29, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha

its like a dry hump

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 29, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF is going on today!

HOMOS!!!

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 29, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

aaahhhhhh

the good ol’ gay sex pile, “aint gonna be no future for those goo backs! they took rrr jobs!”

never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do

by child on Jul 29, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

from Toronto to Sydney is 28 hours...including 1 2 hour stop over...thats a good deal....1 way is usually close to 2K..ever been to Australia?

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

IF you can make it cheap to LA i have a deal on Orbitz for you.

 Roundtrip: from $863
 
 
10:32 pm Depart Los Angeles (LAX)
Arrive Sydney (SYD) 6:10 am +2 days Thu 12-Aug
Duration: 14hr 38mn UNITED 839
 Nonstop flight
 
 

by dandeman on Jul 29, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just bbm'd a gf that came back from there less then a month ago

She said she paid $1700. One way. To Saskatchewan Canada. Little further then Mac would go, but I’m sure similar in cost.

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 5:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can probably find you a better deal.

I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!

by dandeman on Jul 29, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have this price from Toronto; Round Trip

C$1,250
Fare sold in US$: US$1,208 Toronto (YYZ) to Sydney (SYD)
Flying with Delta Air Lines Depart Aug 12 10
Return Aug 19 10

I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!

by dandeman on Jul 29, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is so cheap because no one goes to AUS for 7 days.

You lose 2 full days to travel time and probably most of another to jet lag.

Hell, I can hardly go to Europe (8 hour flight) for only 7 days and fell like it is worth my time.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Jul 30, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

i just like to hop in my private jet

then i can go anywhere

never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do

by child on Jul 29, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay i think i got er now

Dandeman is a travel agent who’s paid on commission.

McArthur seemingly paid a respectable number that potentially was a little much, but not by much.
And Child is a liar.

Covered em?

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 6:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

that would be a yes

for me at least…

never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do

by child on Jul 29, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aced it. LOL

I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!

by dandeman on Jul 29, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats my side job, i do work for SSA handling disablity cases

I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!

by dandeman on Jul 29, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha figured...

I’d wait for Mac to confirm as well, but he’s probably on hold waiting to make payment arrangements for his 99 trip.

Guy got screwed!!!

Like gravy, I got it all smoverred
Like makeup, I got it all coverred

by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 7:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Haven’t been, but was exploring vacation ideas there a few years back. I remember it being around a grand round trip from LA

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 29, 2010 7:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

ya thats because its winter there right now...

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Jul 30, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I went in 2002. We flew out od phx and had a week layover in hawaii then flew to australia. And it all cost me like 1500 that’s with a week layover. It doesn’t shock me seeing as how its 350 bucks to take a 45 min flight to vegas. I’ve seen it cheaper but plane tickets are just plain rediculous

by LOKIE on Jul 30, 2010 8:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It is all supply/demand

It costs me $600 round trip to Philly from Pittsburgh on Monday morning coming back on the red eye.

I went to Fort Myers, Fl from Pittsburgh for $140 round trip last month (7 days).

All about what everyone is willing to pay.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Jul 30, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

These fools should be locked up in a cage with all the fighters on the card that have not been paid, id say for a good 2 minutes.

Shogun will have the longest championship reign in the UFC

by manalito on Jul 29, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

i completely

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 5:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

agree?

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 29, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

bwahahahaha... what a

Like gravy, I got it all smoverred
Like makeup, I got it all coverred

by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 11:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fool??

I've got something to say; it better to burn in hell than to fade away!!!

by dandeman on Jul 30, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

These fools should be locked up in a cage with all the fighters on the card that have not been paid, id say for a good 2 minutes.

Shogun will have the longest championship reign in the UFC

by manalito on Jul 29, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

...agree with you

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nice moves worbs

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 29, 2010 7:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i'm a thinker

I like to save some guys humility.

Wait, what were we talking about again?….

Like gravy, I got it all smoverred
Like makeup, I got it all coverred

by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 8:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

ah shit you got me…….i should scroll down a bit before commenting

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 29, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

....sucker!

Like gravy, I got it all smoverred
Like makeup, I got it all coverred

by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 11:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

this promotion should be out of business. i hope all fighters boycott these crooks.

i blame the commissions for letting this happen and the fighters if this org has a history of stiffing fighters.

by Conan the Barbarian on Jul 29, 2010 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

They've only done 2 shows in the space of a week so they don't have a history period

Typical crooks promising big money to entice popular but desperate fighters only to screw them over. Looks like Bob Sapp had the right idea afterall.

I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.

by David W-S on Jul 29, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I was Dana White

I’d jump in and help compensate these guys, I mean probably wouldn’t cost that much in the large scheme of things, and it would make ImpactFC look just horrendous while making the UFC look ‘the sport’ even more so.

Small price for that type of publicity.

Shogun lost a close decision! Everyone get crazy!

by ShaiZ on Jul 29, 2010 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

ShaiZ works for Strikeforce Dakatak. it's a trick!

Like gravy, I got it all smoverred
Like makeup, I got it all coverred

by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 8:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

D:

SHHHHHHHH

ps: Whatever, Jake shields sucks anyway…..

Shogun lost a close decision! Everyone get crazy!

by ShaiZ on Jul 29, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I scoffed at first glance

But if you think about the pr that would generate. Great outside the box idea.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 29, 2010 8:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah and next week I'm gonna hold an event in my backyard with Fedor, Barnett, AA....

Not pay them a dime and wait for Zuffa to rescue me too. It’s a slippery slope for them to start paying for every failed organizations debts. He doesn’t want them around to begin with, I doubt he’ll ever help one.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jul 29, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

fkn Andrew McManus

This guy is very shady… he is currently at the center of the Salary cap rort for one of the biggest footy teams in Australia. Very dodgy bloke, not the first time he has been quick to point the finger at someone else also. Hope the fighters get paid their due. A few, including Filho are still out here trainig at local gyms.

by MITCHELL_PA99 on Jul 29, 2010 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

F*ck ImpactFC

Not only is that a blow to the fighters, but it’s a blow to the fans who shelled out the money to buy the PPV! That’s some real BS and I hope the fighters get some kind of compensation.

SCREW YOU!!!

by iTap2strikes on Jul 29, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

People are suprised? lol

The business model and promoting is exactly the same as pro wrestling. The walk-out music, the pre fight hype videos, when Zuffa took over it was identical. The seperation is the actual sport of mma. McManus is a wrestling promoter who promoted a very unsucessful World Wrestling All-Stars tour. He is wrestling promoter and the funny thing is, that it happens all the time. Imagine how many hard working fighters who attended vale tudo events where robbed or never paid, countless. Fight/Wrestling Promoters are scumbags ayt heart.

by ThePunisher on Jul 29, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

just disgusting

"its either going to be genius or its going to f***ing suck. Until I see the first cut I have no idea. But you know what? Neither does anybody else"

by HERZ on Jul 30, 2010 1:04 AM EDT reply actions  

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