Miguel Torres: Jake Shields dropped to 170 because he's afraid of Anderson Silva
by Jesse Holland on Jul 29, 2010 10:07 AM EDT
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"I think he's getting out of 185 because he's a little bit afraid of Anderson (Silva). Anderson's a tough guy to fight at that weight class and he's thinking (Georges) St. Pierre's an easier fight. I think it might be too much of a weight cut. Sometimes trying to cut that it's a little bit too much for you and I think Shields is going to find out right off the bat. He's a great wrestler but at that weight class, cutting that weight is going to be rough."
Former WEC Bantamweight Champion Miguel Torres has an unflattering assessment of Jake Shields return to the welterweight division after leaving behind his 185-pound title in Strikeforce to test his might inside the Octagon. Shields has competed in both divisions with great success but according to Torres, some of that wrestling prowess will be compromised in the weight cut. Will Martin Kampmann prove him right at UFC 121 in Anaheim? Or will Shields return to greatness regardless of weight class? And is Torres becoming a bantamweight version of Chael Sonnen with his recent trash talk?
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Right?
That’s what I was thinking. I actually thought he was a bit small for 185. Either way, avoiding one of the best p4p guys only to face another p4p best, is nothing really to be ashamed of.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
by Jrandolph on Jul 29, 2010 10:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he's a young guy that trains hard...maybe he's not a natural 170 anymore...he's over 6 feet which is usually when guys are 185+
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
He's always been a WW. What is Miguel talking about?
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
he's the SF MW champ
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Only because he won't fight Nick
He was the Elite XC WW champ.
He’s a WW fighting at MW because of Nick. Nothing more, nothing less.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
he cuts to 185... and he was bigger than Hendo...he's growing muscle mass and is over 6 feet..he will be a MW eventually
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
GSP has to cut weight to make 185, not sure what you are getting at Mac.
Bigger than Hendo? Growing muscle mass? Eventually a MW?
Where are you coming up with this info?
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
He's fighting at MW and won a belt in SF doing so...he hasn't ever looked to small at MW and he's getting bigger as he gets older...do I have to spell it out for ya?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't mind some sort of proof that he is getting bigger.
I know he’s fighting at MW, but he prefers WW and will most likely stay there since that is where he fought his whole career before Diaz decided to sign with the same company. Just seems like you are passing your opinion off as fact with nothing to back it up. :)
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
nothing to back it up?! HE's THE SF CHAMP!!! Of course he's bigger. Thats what training and working out does to a person
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Jake has also said he very little if any weight to fight at 185. He just did that interview though and did say he weight was up from fighting at 85
by LOKIE on Jul 30, 2010 8:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Some sort of proof?
Are you a judge or something? Let Mac have his crazy opinions.
Facebook is for gays!!!
Canadians always have crazy opinions.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
well what do you think smart guys? You think its absurd for him to fight at MW?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I don't thinks it's absurd,
Hell if wants to fight at 155, good for him. He won’t be a champ in the UFC!
Facebook is for gays!!!
Depends, Mac. Anyone know what his natural weight is walking around?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I'd guess around 190....but he is able to put solid muscle on...he looked big at 185 against Hendo and was able to go the distance...the weight cut to 170 might stress his body as he hasn't done it for a couple years
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Based on numbers, the smart thing is to go with 185 but you have to consider how much bigger the 185 guys are who happen to drop down to 185. WW seems like a smart move for him - despite your logic, Mac.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
smart move maybe...I'm finding that a lot of these guys do worse at lighter weights
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Yeah, I won't disagree with that.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I think a 5-10 lb weight cut is ideal
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
So GSP should fight at MW, since he cuts 15?
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Or Spider at HW since he cuts from 220?
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
HW is a terrible example as the weight class envelops a 60 lbs variation...45lbs more than any other weight class
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
imo he's too short and doesn't have the reach Jake does...Jake is 6'1, GSP is 5'10...Jake at MW was bigger than Hendo...GSP isn't even close
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
After bulking up
Shields walks around about 193lbs, he said he wouldn’t go any heavier as it would slow him down and affect his endurance.
GSP used to walk at 185 but put 10lbs of muscle on so he technically,at 195, he is the heavier guy these days. I think Shields can drop down to 170 no problem, he’ll be eating a ton and talking all kinds of supplements to maintain 193. I appreciate he’s taller but his frame isn’t as supportive of the muscle mass as GSPs
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
ok...most of GSP's weight is in his legs though...Shields still has weight to gain in his lower body
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
true enough
It’s damn hard being naturally lean and trying to bulk up. Especially with cardio as a staple requirement for your sport.
I’m 6’2" and around 186 and would love to be around 200 but it just takes forever. I eat around 3800 calories a day too but just burn it all off…
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Shields got alot bigger
He is trying to cut down to low 180’s as we speak . Just so he can make the cut to 170 at fight time.
Shields got alot bigger
He is trying to cut down to low 180’s as we speak . Just so he can make the cut to 170 at fight time.
totally.
He was athletic and strong at 185, you should always fight where you feel best.
A lot of fighters are dropping weight for the wrong reasons like say Rumble Johnson and that’s probably why he’s injured all the time now.
Miguel Torres should shut up, he’s skinny as hell at his weight maybe he should move up.
your mother !
scared??
If your a fighter ain’t no room for that. Or you should find another job
YOU CANT PLEASE EVERYBODY SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL PLEASE YOU!!!!!!!
by BigDickChainey on Jul 29, 2010 10:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Torres sounds like an idiot.
Shields had what, 3 fights at middleweight? Now all of a sudden the weight cut is too much after a whole career? He should concentrate on winning fights again himself.
'How's taste my pee pee pee?'
It seems like this guy has an opinion on everything nowadays
Torres has to remember who he is, an Ex-Bantamweight champion on a two fight losing skid. He’s not in a position to call out people for being scared or ducking fights he has nothing to do with. He should be focusing on improving his own game and not analysing people who don’t even fight in his weight class.
"I like being punched... I like... punchin'" ~Gray Maynard
"A black belt only covers two inches of your ass, you have to cover the rest" ~Royce Gracie
Chael Sonnen shocks the world at UFC 117
^Great post^
But you forgot to mention how ridiculous his stoopid mullet is too…
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Torres cut from 265
Because he’s scared of Frank Mir’s mancrush.
by PetrozellisJab on Jul 29, 2010 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
wow
Early favorite for comment of the week
It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
by Jesse Holland on Jul 29, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you are onto something here
Weekly “comment of the week” fanpost?
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
use a poll with the top 5 or something? I like it
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt JH wants to compile all that
but Jimmay may be well equipped for that task. My guess is he wants one of us to do it.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I'm already doin something
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
can't wait. You going to be asking for input?
or just doing a poll or something?
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
haha...no, no, no...I'm already doin something else
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
the pool
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
dammit
I was hoping you were running with this. I am not in the pool, so I want your attention elsewhere dammit.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
haha..I've already nominated you
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
it should be someone thats here all day everyday like OJ or Dragon
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
+1...except all his fav posts will be ass pics
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahaha
your choices for best comment are:
1. Pic of Vida’s rear
2. Different pic of Vida’s rear
3. Random ass shaking vid
4. Some Brock comment
5. Some Kimbo hate comment.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Damn, that was funny. And very accurate.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
do you accept this nomination?
Mac has bestowed, I second it.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
If you guys want me to do a funny fanpost I got no probelms with it - but I need the Maniacs to decide what the criteria are - I will not be using my own criteria.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I third it
Anything that is witty, relevant and intelligent deserves to be considered.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
Fine. The rest is up to the Maniacs to provide the material.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
the nominees could be identified through rec'ing posts..they turn green right...all that is needed is a FanPost to let the Maniacs know what we're doing
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Add to the criteria...
The subject must be about the main thread topic, not a comment that is only funny in context to an off-shoot conversation.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
does that even make sense?
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
yep
im just following along…
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
Yes - no off topic funny stuff.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
yes, but with many more words and a tangent or two.
:)
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Ha! No worries. Maniacs are smart enough to keep up with you, Rain Man. :)
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
too bad I am not smart enough to keep up with myself.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
lol @ #3
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Thanks guys
I have to admit, I chuckled as I typed it.
by PetrozellisJab on Jul 29, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
keep em coming
because that is some funny shit right der.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Roy could do it.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Lol @ Torres
Seriously……doesn’t he need to figure out why 135ers are kicking his ass in the WEC and not worry about Jake?
by texen_1 on Jul 29, 2010 10:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
i'm proud to say i never supported or fell for the Torres hype
I also, am glad to say I called his fall from grace the moment he said he wasn’t even going to jab the whole first round when he was interviewed on Mania, before his 1st round KO.
Loser.
Who says that? He deserved what he got. And the evolution of fighters has left him as old news as his mullet.
Aaaaariba that! Mariachi!
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 10:30 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I can't say that I didn't buy into it
Shaking finger at self.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Agreed Neither did I
Dude has a habit of striking with his chin sticking out and I knew it was going to catch up with him. Bowles is a BIG puncher.
by southpaw447 on Jul 29, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, a fighter with a 40-3 record losing to 2 solid opponents in a good org with some decent talent. Throw the bum outta here! And take GSP with you cuz he could not finish Hardy! Stupid, huh?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Sux your hometown boy was all hype. ;)
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
He is from East Chicago, Indiana. Everybody in the Midwest wants to claim Chicago (minus the Texas boys). :)
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
How is Texas part of the midwest? We are our own region.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
I thought Texas was separating from the US?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
They already tried that...look where it got them. ;)
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Lol Everytime I see that lone star...........
I think “You lost that effort, why remind yourself of it everyday” lol
O_o
I heard that a bunch of Texans tried chainsawing through the Earth that represents their borders
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I believe it. Them TX boys are almost as crazy as you Canucks. :)
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
that didn't work so they all started digging a massive trench which was eventually filled up with pickup trucks that tried to jump over
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
ha
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
I thought all the Texicans died at the Alamo? Or do you mean Texans
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Sorry I have used Texicans ever since
Jesse the body Ventura referenced all people from Texas as Texicans on Saturday nights main event. That got stuck in my head as a kid and never left. Now I do it unconsciously . But I do mean Texans.
I love Bobby The Brain Heenan from those days
Brain: "You know why there were only 220 mexicans at the Alamo?
Gorilla : “Why?”
Brain: “They only had one car.”
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
Gold, pure gold.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
beat me to it. Awesome.
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
Ventura would call Tito Santana "Chico"
and Bobby always had good bites
Gorilla, “Why isn’t Tito going in there to help his partner??”
Bobby, “Because immagration’s sitting in the front row!”
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
Personally I love racial humour in good sport. Dave Chappelle is my fav comedian.
two last one’s I just looked up and pasted from the Brain.
(Regarding Davey Boy Smith) “Million dollar body, ten cent mind and Whoopi Goldberg’s hairdo.”
Bobby: “There’s gonna be a lot of trouble there in the Macho household.”
Gorilla: “What are you talking about?”
Bobby: "Well, he’s been reinstated, right? He can wrestle again.
“Gorilla: “Yes.” Bobby: “Who’s gonna do the dishes?”
Gorilla: “Brain, if you keep quiet, no one will know how stupid you are.”
Bobby: “You’re kidding.”
Bobby: “Right here in Jim Louis Arena.”
Gorilla: “Joe Louis!”
Bobby: "Joe Louis, sorry.
“Gorilla: “Who’s Jim Louis?”
Bobby: “Who’s Joe Louis?”
okay Im done. God, thats making me laugh.
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
Mike Schiavello aka The Voice
He’s got some funny material…
But Heenan had a whole library of sarcasm to use and Monsoon was a perfect counter part.
I would have loved Heenan with Rogan post water bong.
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
Loved Heenan
Whatever happened to him? A genuine wit and sharp as a tack.
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
here he is
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
he's had a rough go...here's Heenan and Bundy
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
with George the Animal
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
holy shit
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa
He lost a lot of weight too. Sad to hear he hit hard times. Entertained me as a kid
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
hard to tell but I think the pic with Bundy is the most recent...I don't think you can recover from that..
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
You're right man
Thats awful
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats Heenan up there?
Whoa. Mind fuck.
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
count to 5
Master of the 5 count that Bundy.. because counting to three wasn’t good enough.
Wrassling used to be so much cooler. I hate it today.
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
He was on the video the Selfdestruction of the Ultimate Warrior in 2006 I think
Talked a lot of smack about the Warrior most of it funny.
Cos he's a 24 carat nut!
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh big time
I used to love him as a kid, but looking back now, he was dreadful. Zero in ring talent, poor talker and a lousy worker. Just had a massive steroid pumped body (which Vinnie mac loved at the time) and a super over gimmick
Yeah
He gassed running to the ring, no talent and no technique. I thought he was great as a kid but like you’ve said, you grow up and look back…ha ha.
Personal favs were Mr Perfect, Macho Man (before the Macho King carry on), Flair and the 4 Horseman and Bret Hart.
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the latest news on Heenan.
On December 11, 2009, Bobby Heenan was hospitalized at the H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, FL after an examination of his rebuilt jaw found an infection that needed to be treated. As a result, Heenan missed his scheduled appearance at the K&S Wrestlefest event in New Jersey.
By 2010, Heenan’s jaw infection was completely eradicated. He appeared at TNA Lockdown fanfest on April 17, 2010.
In December 2010 WWE will release a retrospective of his career.
Good work Dandeman!
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Hulkster my all time fave
Obviously the British Bulldogs with me hailing from England and Jake the Snake, great worker.
Jake the Snake is a bad man!
I knew even as a kid he was a bad apple, isn’t he a crack head whom lives in bus shelters now?? Always put on a great show tho and loved it when he signaled the DDT.
I liked the Bulldogs but always thought Davey was a bit thick, he was always from a different town or city (Manchester, Warrington, Liverpool etc) Bit like Bisping
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah
Dynamite was the talent in that team alright.
The snake was a crack head last time I heard. You ever seen the Beyond The Mat documentary with him in it?
yes...very disturbing
but intriguing at the same time.
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
ha ha
a classic one-liner from Roberts.
How is it that guys like him are indestructible yet Hennig, Rude, etc die young?
I guess its true the the insane are truly indestructible!
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Take a look at their respective physiques!
Jake didn’t look like much of a juicer, same cant be said of the other two. Rude died of complications relating to an enlarged heart, not sure about Hennig.
Hennig died of a heart attack brought on from snorting some particularly strong coke in a hotel room all alone
Pretty sad.
Yet the snake can be hooked on the pipe and just keep on trucking!
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess its just lives rich tapestry
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by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jul 29, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
the division was small when he amassed that record
Not saying he’s useless, but now that there’s depth he sure isn’t what he was made out to be.
Plus isn’t he dropping to like the 95lb class now to stay on top of the game? Haha. Hate him!
I still want Faber vs Torres. Whoever wins or loses I’ll be happy so long as their both hurt badly.
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 29, 2010 12:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good post, Worbs. I am not a fan of Torres, BTW.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
The way to the welterweight title is shorter than at middleweight and easier to achieve. This is his debut. Let’s give Shields the time to fight for either divisions and see where he feels more comfortable.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
''A man is not finished when he's defeated; he's finished when he quits'' Richard M. Nixon on Fedor's loss
no...it was his choice
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
lol...does Kevin have their phones bugged? I'll need proof
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
OK? I said it was his choice which is exactly what his quote says
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 29, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
if they had offered him a mw fight he woulda taken it mac
their choice..but who actually thought he’d stay at MW?
See Mac the UFC chose to offer a WW fight and Shield chose to agree to that fight.
And as we know when the UFC offers a choice you have free will right?? right??
yep...thats all I meant
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
The only difference is....
Anderson will pound his face whereas GSP will just pound his ass, a bit of lube & he’ll be fine
There it is
I’m always curious to see how far we get into a thread before someone throws out the “manrape” line.
Although you have a point.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
by Jrandolph on Jul 29, 2010 10:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think
Shields sees the UFC as being more competitive in both divisions and wants go give himself the best chance of success right off the bat. Very douchey comment by torres, who is he to say what Shields should be doing w/ his career, esp since given the same opportunity we can all prob say we would make the same decision
by FyodorrE on Jul 29, 2010 10:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Torres is a joke
I watched the episode of mma live where Miguel made these comments. What a douche. So Jake Shields, who moved out of his natural weight class of 170 to fight better, stronger competition at 185 is now not a natural 170???? He doesnt cut much weight to make 185, and he’s fought at 170 for the majority of his career. Torres should stop trying to be a newscaster and stick to TRYING to win again, so laughable that people actually thought he was a pound for pound best.
I love how some are getting made because he gave his opinion
when he was asked for his opinion. That’s what he was on the show to do. And the reason he used the word “afraid” is because he’s saying that Shields matches up better stylisctically with GSP. You’re about to find out if a wrestler matches up good with Anderson…most of you think Sonnen will get his ass kicked. So if Sonnen, who DOESN’T have pillows for hands has no chance according to any of you, what makes you think Sheilds would?
Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.
Shields*
Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.
These Sheilds lovers are mad because they know it's true
When he gets his azz kicked, his excuse will be “I cut too much weight.”
When was the last time he fought at 170???
Considering that Jake actually has submissions in his arsenal and can defend them, that makes him a bigger threat than Sonnen
Stupid comment from Torres, Andy and GSP are the 2 P4P best fighters in the world so you are clearly not ducking or afraid of one if you plan to fight the other. And whilst I actually prefer Jake at 185 he is still more than capable of making 170 comfortably, he’s had no cardio or weight issues in the past so it seems to be a pointless and ignorant accusation from Miguel.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
I don't agree with Torres
Shields is a natural 170 pounder. He should test the waters at 170 and get a match with GSP eventually before he decides to go to 185.
by GoldenSt8OfMind on Jul 29, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions
Shields at 170
why would shields want to go 185lbs… when there’s a better and bigger version of Shields in Cael Sonnen!
Because Chael can't defend submissions and isn't a big threat on the feet
Sonnen’s made a career out of getting choked out by superior grapplers, so a very good grappler who specialises in chokes is a bad match up for Chael.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
Chael no longer loses to very good grapplers, only superior grapplers.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Shields is a superior grappler in my opinion
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
not in mine.
The two best at MW are/were Maia and Filho. Both (with heads on straight) would school Shields.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
I can see Maia but I don't buy into Filho (even with his stuff in proper order).
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Filho BB (before breakdown) was a beast.
too bad his head is not on straight.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
The only reason he was WEC was because he is Blackhouse and was Spider's main training partner.
If I remember correctly, he used to abuse Silva in practice, grappling only.
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Its sad that a lot of fights have broken down mentally.
I guess it was smart for GSP to get a sports psychiatrist to help him out.
The comparison between Sonnen and Shields is completely inaccurate, IMO. No offense, Thorazine but you will have to explain that one to me.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
like I said after watching mma live last thursday and hearing this..........
miguel is stupid
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