UFC 121: Jake Shields felt 'no pressure' to choose weight class or fight Martin Kampmann
by Jesse Holland on Jul 28, 2010 10:18 AM EDT
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"I was pretty undecided the whole time. I just wanted big fights, and I know GSP is tied up with the Koscheck fight, so I was thinking maybe going to 85 since my weight's already up. [The UFC] called and asked if I wanted (Martin Kampmann) at 70 and I said sure. They didn't give me any pressure; they gave me the option. Some people were saying I was forced to go down, which certainly wasn't the case. They said I could fight at either weight, but they offered me a fight at 70, and I was like I might as well jump and take it. I'm not really sure if this is going to be a number one contender's fight or not, it hasn’t been mentioned to me, but there's a good chance if I go out there and look really good doing it, it's definitely a possibility."
Former Strikeforce Middleweight Champion Jake Shields insists he's fighting Martin Kampmann at UFC 121 on Oct. 23 in Anaheim because he chose to, not because he was pressured to. The Cesar Gracie product has remained undefeated over five years across the span of 14 fights with victories over Dan Henderson, Robbie Lawler and Jason Miller. Shields has been vocal about his desire to face Georges St. Pierre as a UFC employee and may be one fight away from getting his wish -- unless "The Hitman" has anything to say about it. Anyone thinking the Dane will play spoiler? Or is Shields on another level entirely?
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Hitman via 2nd Round KO
I’m not sold on Shields and I’m a big fan of Kampmann. I think Shield is impressive but if he can’t get it to the ground it’s gonna be a long night for him
Went to my first jits class. Don't think I was ever so happy with getting my ass handed to me
ya i'm not necessarily sold either
I also don’t see why anyone would want Shields to win. I mean I guess if you’re a huge fan. But if its like most, who just hate GSP’s “boring” style. (I love him by the way.) Then I don’t get it. How would Shields as Champ please you anymore? I look at Shields as a less impressive GSP anyways. Not like all of the sudden you guys have some KO artist, with flamboyant style for a WW Champ now.
That, and he’d lose anyways.
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 28, 2010 10:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Shields = Fitch
Shields is a pretty similar fighter to Fitch and I see a fight with GSP going the same for Shields as it did with Fitch. The only reason I’d like to see that fight is because it’s someone new and someone who has been calling out GSP from afar for so long now. I don’t see Shields putting GSP in any real danger unless he gets on top of GSP and we all know how often GSP is on his back.
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who make people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jul 28, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
and we would all see more of gsps standup, yeeaahh!
Leg kicks are the most underrated weapon in MMA
by robinhorobson on Jul 28, 2010 10:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
shields has 25 victories...12 by decision, 10 by sub, 3 by tko
so as you can see the majority of sheids’ wins have come by decision..
but the staggering stat there is in 25 victories he only has 3 finishes by tko…that has to be the ABSOLUTE WORST tko to victory ratio in the histroy of mma…
25 wins…3 by tko??? that has to be some type of standing record of some sort…jesus christ…
now THAT is the worst set of hands in the entire mma universe
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by HellaHectic on Jul 28, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as you win - who cares? I would rather be Shields than Baroni.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 28, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
and youve redeemed yourself! nice work!
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 28, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
You fogot to add his striking victory over the "bully" on Mayhem's show.
Although it did go the distance.
by naturalshadow on Jul 29, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't want to live with Shields' teeth
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
how does a guy with teeth like that become a vegetarian? that’s a lot of self control right there.
Your beliefs become your reality.
by Hardy's in your face on Jul 28, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a vegetarian?
Maybe if he ate a few steaks he could punch harder than a pre-pubescent girl.
by naturalshadow on Jul 29, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
i mean im sitting here literally trying to think of a fighter with 25 or more wins that has less than 3 tkos...and i cant think of any
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by HellaHectic on Jul 28, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
jon fitch
22 wins 4 tko
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 28, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
look who fitch has fought...gsp, alves, hes fought nearly EVERY top ranked fighter at 170 in the world
his resume cant even be compared to shields….
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by HellaHectic on Jul 28, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i wasnt comparing fighter competition
i was comparing wins to tko’s
dont change the criteria bromontana.
i like shields, but i dont see him beating the top 4 at WW
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 28, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on name recognition sure but we don't really know, do we? I don't know how skilled his opponents are/were - do you?
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
my point is...this guy has 25 wins and has only 3 tko finishes..probably the worst tko percentage victory ever
for anyone with 25 or more fights…and hes doin that against 2nd tier fighters…if hes truly top 3 at 170 in the world then he should be slaughtering folks…not winning most of his fights by decisions against b level fighters..
i was just looking at his fight finder stats on sherdog…and NOT ONE SINGLE guy that hes beaten is on a top 10 list at 170 which is where hes now fighting in the ufc…
he got a good sub on semtex…but kos proved that anyone with a ground game can beat semtex, so thats no big accomplishment….semtex has no td defense…so tapping a fish out of water isnt that impressive…
and he has a decision over carlos condit…other than that i dont see anything on his 25 wins that would warrant his ranking to be top 3 in the world at 170….
in any sport, such as college football…in order to move up the rankings you must first beat someone who is ranked above you right? and he hasnt..
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by HellaHectic on Jul 28, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
-1
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
+1
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 28, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
-1
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
+5
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 28, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
+ I invented this game so I win
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
+ I do
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
- 25 (Average Kimbo fan IQ)
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You make a good argument but rankings are too subjective. Its about individual match ups/styles. I think Shields handles the top fighters except for GSP.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
+1 but not everyone with a ground game can beat semtex, hazelett and the dude he fought at impact so -1= +0
Leg kicks are the most underrated weapon in MMA
by robinhorobson on Jul 28, 2010 5:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
As long as you win – who cares? I would rather be Shields than Baroni.
yea ojr but you got to think of who he’s fought….other than hendo he hasnt beaten any top 5 guys at EITHER weight class…170 or 185…he has 25 wins but none of them are elite competition….he has a win over okami…and face it, okami’s biggest claim to fame is getting a win over anderson by being kicked in the face….
he hasnt beaten any top guys except hendo…and that took him 30 fights just to do it
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by HellaHectic on Jul 28, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
clay is 26 wins with 4 (T)Ko's
but to take the cake: Dennis Hallman has 42 wins with 3 (T)KOs
Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.
he hasnt beaten any top guys except hendo…and that took him 30 fights just to do it
Did I miss the first 29 times he fought Hendo? Or did you mean that in his previous 29 fights he was trying to beat Hendo vicariously instead of the guys who were actually in the cage with him?
He meant it took him 30 fights to beat/face a good fighter like Hendo
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
You do realize
a sub is a finish too right? And as someone else here posted until his last 2 fights he finished 8 in a row.
Hadoken!!
yea and do you know who they were against? no you dont..and thats my point...
the first guy was named “ray steinbeiss” and when shields beat him the guy was in the middle of losing 5 out of his last 6 fights…yayyy jake’s got to be proud of finishing a guy who had lost 5 out of 6 – certainly not a top 10 guy
the 2nd fight was against someone named “ido parente” ever heard of him? yea me neither…he’s 8-5….2-2 since his fight with shields – certainly not a top competitor
the 3rd fight was against a guy named “Renato Verissimo”..ever heard of him? me neither…the guy’s record is 7-5 – do i even need to say that this guy is a d level fighter at best?
the 4th fight was against mike pyle..decent guy…still nowhere near a top 10 guy…and since joining the ufc hes 2-2 in ufc…and nowhere near even the top 15
the 5th fight was against nick thompson..and although he was pretty good…hes not a top guy and plus hes now 2-3 in his last 5 fights…so hes pretty much sucking right now…and again, not even a top 15 guy
the 6th fight – paul daley…kos showed that this guy has no td defense, hes a fish out of water on his back….has no clue what to do on the ground…he gets tooled by wrestlers…so jake tapping daley isnt that impressive since the dude has no idea what to do on his back – daley is a one dimensional fighter – top 15 for sure, but thats about it
7th fight was robbie lawler – this guy hasnt been relevant in a long time…certainly not breaking anyone’s top 10 lists…
so yea he had 7 subs in a row…but as you can see…who THE FUCK DID HE BEAT???? absolutely no one….
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-1
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Actually with that math a majority comes via stoppage.
It would be my honor to be your new stepfather.
Wait...
if 12 by decision and 13 by sub and tko (aka finishing)…how is that majority by decision?
Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.
hahahha learn my friend
Finishes who? Lawler? Wow, spectacular caliber! How does he dominate soooo much!?! What a king! I personally like when he finished Mayhem, and Hendo. After Hendo almost took him in round 1. And he was saved by the bell 2x in the Mayhem fight. Tell me again the last time GSP was even in trouble. Shields makes mistakes. Gsp hasn’t since Serra.
And won’t.
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 28, 2010 12:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think he was referrring to the fact that shieds was in trouble in those fights..........
but never really had mayhem or hendo in trouble…………..
O_o
yea hendo lost, but it took shields 30 fights to finally put together an impressive win over a top 5 opponent
im not knocking shields as being a good fighter…but it took him 30 fights to finally beat a high profile opponent….
im not saying he isnt good….but in most polls hes ranked number 3 in the world at 170…gsp at 1, kos at 2……but shields hasnt beaten anyone in the top 10 to bump him up to such a high rating….i dont see how these sportswriters can automatically put him above shields and alves when they have both cleaned out 170 except for gsp…
i would put him in the top 10 no doubt…but to have him number 3 when he hasnt even beaten someone in the top 5 is retarded
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by HellaHectic on Jul 28, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
*i meant i dont see how they could put shields above fitch and alves
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by HellaHectic on Jul 28, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
what?!? hendo lost??? somebody go google this, i think brizzle's pullin my leg....
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 28, 2010 1:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He's been fighting outside the UFC his whole life
There aren’t a lot of top 10 WW’s that aren’t fighting for Dana. Think about it. Nick Diaz and Shields are the only two good WW’s not fighting for Zuffa. WTF did you expect?
Saying Kos beat DAley so Daley must suck is also retarded. He’s the second best WW in the world and he might be the Best WW wrestler in the world. No shame in losing to Kos. Don’t judge Shields until you see him fight some top guys if that is what you want. But don’t bash his opponents because he’s always fought the best guys available at his size. Anyone could have gone to Elite XC or Strikeforce and fought Shields since he was the Champ at both stops, Nobody did.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
This hatred is irrational. carlos condit, yushin okami, paul Daley, mike pyle, toby imada, robbie Lawler, mayhem Miller, hayato sakurai, nick thompson, Dan Henderson…
Ya you’re right he’s beaten no one. It’s called MMA not UFC.
Goldberg on Leben: One thing's for sure--he really did break that door on the Ultimate Fighter.
Rogan: uh...yeah.
All Shields bashing is irrational
He’s beaten quality guys and has become a better finisher since his BJJ has developed to Cesar Gracie black belt standard so any points bashing his record and performances is a waste of time. You could pick apart the record of any fighter and dismiss their best wins, it doesn’t prove anything especially if you’re purposely trying to make someone you dislike look bad.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Kampmann ends up getting dismissed as overrated and not top quality if Jake wins, afterall that always seems to happen when Shields beats a top guy.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
by David W-S on Jul 29, 2010 7:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree
he doesn’t have the flashiest style around, but no one is challenging Georgie, and I think Shields is the guy to do it.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
not a chance, imo.
Shields cant wrestle with George, he has zero stand-up and GSP outstrikes all his opponents (that includes Alves) he just doesnt let it stay there long. And subs, no way he subs GSP.
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 28, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
You can make the argument that no one has a chance against GSP at 170
I just think Shields has a bit better chance than the rest.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
agreed, GSP is untouchable at WW
heres my order:
GSP
KOS
Fitch
Alves
Shields
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 28, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I can agree
I also think rearranging the bottom 4 in any order would make sense as well.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
truth!
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 28, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I also agree.
I would even be so bold as to say that no one in the world beats gsp at 170 lbs. Even if anderson could make 170 I think the weight cut would be too much for him and gsp wins at 170. Now with that said Anderson owns at 185………………
O_o
Aside from the obvious
“fresh meat” reason, I’d say Sheilds is our best chance of seeing GSP put on a striking clinic like the good-ole days. He’s gone to the TD so fast since Serra that a lot of people have forgotten what a great striker he is. Since Shields posses virtually no threat of catching him with a big shot, GSP is more likely to try to keep this fight on the feet than he would with Kampman or virtually anyone else. Sheilds is the only top WW that posses a bigger threat off his back than he does on his feet.
Dating back to 2006, Shields had stopped his opponents in 8 straight victories until Miller and Henderson. Miller was last stopped in 2006. Hendo was last stopped by Andy in 2008. Shields is legit, guys. Not enough respect is given to him.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Great point mate
Hopefully a successful UFC run will finally shut up the critics and a great fighter will be treated as such.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
by David W-S on Jul 29, 2010 7:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Bully Beatdown humbled him lol
You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who make people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.
by Buster Bluth on Jul 28, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
you mean Barely Beatdown?
Guess you take that chance when you have pillow fists.
BTW, what do we call Bisping now that he has been usurped by Shields for lightest punches in the UFC?
His face is memory foam
He still has the imprint of Hendo’s right on it.
"I'm sorry about my performance tonight... I had sand in my vagina."
-Forrest Griffin
What are you guys talking about it?
Bisping’s nickname is Michael " the Shane Carwin of the MW division" Bisping!
Facebook is for gays!!!
In Bispings defense
Lebens face was mangled after their fight.
Leben didn't even go into Zombie mode in that fight.
So, they are harder than pillows, but softer then normal skin and bones?
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 28, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
But that's still not as bad as that time Tito Ortiz got destroyed by Britney Spears
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 28, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
lol gimme a break =P
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 28, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
it looks like real blood...
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 28, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
IT'S A DAMN PICASO
A FUCKIN MASTERPIECE
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 28, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
If you do say so yourself
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
FINE ULF TAKE THIS
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 28, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
AWESOME. (although GSP and Diego would have been funnier)
See, I knew you could do better. I am just trying to help!
Rec’d as well
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
hahaha its the simple one's that make me laugh
Well done. Was it you who did “Jesse’s Girl” on Carwin too?
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 28, 2010 10:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that was one p.o.s. attempt but yea it was me lol
Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
by O damn he got caught on Jul 28, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
that was my favorite one of all time to this day
The completely square shirt. Made in to a muscle shirt simply by two purple smudges added to the shoulders. And the sheer cheeziness of the “jesse’s girl” song reference was too much for me.
Simply put:
It.
Was.
Genius.
Hahahahha still makes me laugh.
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 28, 2010 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Shields is the real deal
I’ve been waiting to see Jake in the UFC for a couple of years, in my opinion he will dominate the WW division. I am a GSP fan, but I honestly do not think that anyone can hang with Shields, just cause the guy doesn’t hit all that hard, it doesn’t matter. Dude can take a punch, and take just about anyone down, wait and see.
Rebecob
I 100% GUARANTEE Shields never beats GSP. I know the saying is anything can happen in MMA, but in my opinion….not that. Personally I dont think he even wins against Kampmann, remember the last dude from outside the UFC who came in with a big hype got a big ole “L” as a welcoming present from the Hitman. Even if Shields does win, I’m calling for an extremely underwhelming performance.
Shields is better than Condit
He’s already beaten him, has beaten better competition and has a better style to beat Kampmann. Jakes takedowns and control are much better than Condits, that is what he will use to beat Kampmann. Unlike Carlos, Jake goes into fights to win by any means necessary, he doesn’t take silly risks to finish and that makes him a more dangerous opponent for Kampmann. Of course Martin is the better striker but Jake isn’t stupid enough to try to stand with him and Martin lacks the power to hurt Jake before he gets the inevitable takedown.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
by David W-S on Jul 29, 2010 7:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Get over yourself
I like how he tries to make it sound like he was calling the shots here. Let’s see, move up to 185 and fight a low level guy or fight Kampmann with the potential within a win or two get a shot at GSP. Sure Jake, might as well take it because GSP is already tied up. Give me a break.
"I'm sorry about my performance tonight... I had sand in my vagina."
-Forrest Griffin
I wouldn't say he is calling the shots
but he is a legit champion, so I don’t have any problems with how he is looking at things.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Must be my interpretation
I’m reading it like the UFC called him and said, “whatever you want Jake, 170, 185, doesn’t matter to us we just want you here.” and he’s acting like he was even entertaining 185. Then why be concerned if the Kampmann fight was a number one contender fight then?
"I'm sorry about my performance tonight... I had sand in my vagina."
-Forrest Griffin
what the hell happened to..
The alexander emilianenko bull tv show post? Am I losin it or something?
Activia; now with bullshitifus ridicularus
by salamagogo on Jul 28, 2010 11:08 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Barcelona SP, has passed a bill making bullfighting (their cultural tradition) illegal
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 28, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
nah, bull-fighting is cowardly and inhumane...it needed to go
If it was Brock Lesnar against a healthy bull, that would be manly. But they put this ballerina in a skin-tight Disco costume against a bull that’s been tortured for hours and bled almost dry with a dozen spears sticking in his back. Then the so-called “man” torments the poor tortured animal till it’s so exhausted and dehydrated that it can’t move anymore and then he walks up to it runs a sword through it. If you’ve ever seen the real thing, its disgusting and there’s nothing remotely manly or courageous about it. Running down the street in front of the charging herd during the “running of the bulls” takes a lot more courage than that bullshit they call bull"fighting" against an animal that’s already half dead.
I've never seen it(never would)
But I agree 100%.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Exactly
Hopefully this is the beginning of the end of the most pathetic, cruel and cowardly example of a sport. Good to see the Spanish finally putting an end to it.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
by David W-S on Jul 29, 2010 7:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hunting is cowardly too..as a sport
I’ve got no beef with hunting for food, but I don’t see how sitting in a tree blowing a deer’s brains out from 100 meters away qualifies as a sport unless the deer has a gun too. Hunting bear with a knife…that would be a sport. Shooting something with a gun before it even knows you’re there is not sporting at all.
I've never killed anything I haven't ate...........
And you think hunting is not sporting?? I think not hunting is for women and homos, but hey that’s just our opinions eh? I do however agree about the bull fighting, it’s dumb, I was just making a joke…….
P.S. Hunting a bear with a knife?? That is just retarded………
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bulls eye
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 28, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Painful...
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Shields
I’m so sick of hearing if’s for this fight with Marty. Shields will get him down, he will pass through his guard and work him over, I’ll take sig bets for that one if anyone is interested. Shields has taken everyone down that he’s fought and this will be no different. I’m telling my brother rolled with both of them at Drysdale’s BJJ and said Shields is light years ahead of Marty and he can wrestle. As far as GSP goes that’s a tough fight. GSP may force Jake to stand, but if and when it goes to the ground, Jake has the advantage.
My Top Ten Favorite Fighters
1. Nick Diaz
2. Fedor
3. Carlos Condit
4. Jake Shields
5. Gilbert Melendez
6. Gegard Mousasi
7. Anderson Silva
8. Nate Diaz
9. Kenny Florian
10. King Mo
by MasterWhiteTiger on Jul 28, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions
Agree
Good post
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
you agree that Sheilds has a wrestling advantage over GSP??? Seriously, Jay???
After the way he dominated Kos and Fitch? (and word is, he dominates Nate and Rashad on the ground too.)
He said Jake had an advantage over KAmpmann in all forms of grappling
And that he has an advantage over GSP IF/WHEN it gets to the ground. I took that to mean jits. I think that IF Shields got it to the ground he would have a large advantage. I don’t think he has a chance in hell at getting it there though.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Agreed.
Shields would have the advantage over GSP if he has top position. Martin doesn’t have much of a chance. He doesn’t have the power that Hendo had to drop Shields. And Jake will not stand in front of him long enough for the damage to add up. He will go for takedown any chance he gets.
Bullets dodge Fedor.
^^^
Great thing he doesn’t even try to fall into the trap of standing, that dude’s relentless on his takedowns, he just keeps them coming. I know GSP is too, but Shields tries to finish down there, GSP not so much.
My Top Ten Favorite Fighters
1. Nick Diaz
2. Fedor
3. Carlos Condit
4. Jake Shields
5. Gilbert Melendez
6. Gegard Mousasi
7. Anderson Silva
8. Nate Diaz
9. Kenny Florian
10. King Mo
by MasterWhiteTiger on Jul 28, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
GSP does not have the sub pedigree that Shields has. Not a fair comparison. I agree with the rest of your post, though.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
too bad his killer instinct is lacking
"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is to not stop questioning." - Albert Einstein
He didnt finish him though
If shields armbars Hardy thats his ass. He damn near broke Paul Daley’s arm. Dude has finished 9 of his last eleven by sub, he finishes people. I can’t remember the last guy GSP finished.
My Top Ten Favorite Fighters
1. Nick Diaz
2. Fedor
3. Carlos Condit
4. Jake Shields
5. Gilbert Melendez
6. Gegard Mousasi
7. Anderson Silva
8. Nate Diaz
9. Kenny Florian
10. King Mo
by MasterWhiteTiger on Jul 28, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting top 10, MWT
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 28, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Just my favorites
Not saying their the best, just guy’s i like to watch fight.
My Top Ten Favorite Fighters
1. Nick Diaz
2. Fedor
3. Carlos Condit
4. Jake Shields
5. Gilbert Melendez
6. Gegard Mousasi
7. Anderson Silva
8. Nate Diaz
9. Kenny Florian
10. King Mo
by MasterWhiteTiger on Jul 28, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The point I was making is that GSP tries to finish fights....................
He tried vs. Hardy, he should get a bye on his fight vs. Alves considering he fought half the fight with a torn groin, and Fitch is probably gonna alzhiemers after the beating he took. And bj was the last fighter that GSP finished or does bj get the credit for that finish?? Bazinga!
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B.J.
Should have never taken that fight, or begged for it. GSP’s a great fighter for sure, like another poster mentioned i just don’t know if he has a killer instinct, and i don’t know if he can develop it. Ever since Serra turned his lights off he’s been unable to really finish guy’s. Oh yeah Fitch lost 5 years of brain power because of that fight.
My Top Ten Favorite Fighters
1. Nick Diaz
2. Fedor
3. Carlos Condit
4. Jake Shields
5. Gilbert Melendez
6. Gegard Mousasi
7. Anderson Silva
8. Nate Diaz
9. Kenny Florian
10. King Mo
by MasterWhiteTiger on Jul 28, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
GSP did alter his style because of the Serra fight but he did not finish Alves or Fitch because they are incredibly tough. Look at their records to confirm this. He failed at finishing Hardy because his jits was incorrect.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
agreed, i doubt Shields would finish fitch, Alves, or KOS either
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 28, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed BJ should not have taken that fight.........
Size is too much of a factor anymore. Regarding GSPs’ killer instinct no one really knows except him, and he has for sure been playing it safe, but I try to put myself in his shoes and you gotta think that as long as he is champ he is gonna be bringing mucho dinero and I can’t blame him for that. But I also understand as a fan that we all wanna see hilight reel ko’s and subs and even just see guys take a risk sometimes. Regardless GSP is by far my favorite and I hope he gets some finishes here soon so he can silence all the hate………………
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I'm for sure not hating him for it
Trust me i think he’s a great great fighter, and probably one of the top 3 in the world, its not that he doesnt finish that makes me wonder about him, its the fact that he could and doesnt that bothers me about him. If you want to be considered the best you need to win decisive. He’s a great fighter though either way, and is going to be real hard to beat by anyone fighting welter right now. He’s going to train Josh and then we will have to see what happens with Marty and Jake, but i do give Jake the best chance to beat him.
My Top Ten Favorite Fighters
1. Nick Diaz
2. Fedor
3. Carlos Condit
4. Jake Shields
5. Gilbert Melendez
6. Gegard Mousasi
7. Anderson Silva
8. Nate Diaz
9. Kenny Florian
10. King Mo
by MasterWhiteTiger on Jul 28, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
you dont think hell beat Kampmann?
I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 28, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don't think it's gonna be as easy as everyone is making it out to be.
Martin is tough as nails and his strength is Jakes’ weakness. Won’t know for sure till it happens though………….
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Kamp
will be put on his back. Anything can happen, but that part will definitely happen. I doubt he will be able to get up.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Deuce is right
Kamp isn’t going to KO Shields, he just won’t. At some point(early) this fight will be on the mat. Shields owns said mat.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Also just because he makes it look easy ** its the fact that he could and doesnt **
doesn’t mean it really is……………
O_o
If he had a chance to finish those fights he would of...........
To say that he could of but chose not to is well….just stupid.
O_o
Yeah I don't see him going far in the UFC
Shields will go 1-3 in the UFC before he departs to Sharkfights Promotion….
by pugilista2010 on Jul 28, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You'll have to eat that statement bro
That’s for sure.
My Top Ten Favorite Fighters
1. Nick Diaz
2. Fedor
3. Carlos Condit
4. Jake Shields
5. Gilbert Melendez
6. Gegard Mousasi
7. Anderson Silva
8. Nate Diaz
9. Kenny Florian
10. King Mo
by MasterWhiteTiger on Jul 28, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol I appreciate the guy taking my side.....
but 1-3 is pretty bold. I’m not a shields fan, I think Hella has been making some fantastic points above, regardless of what he does in the ufc the one thing he will not do is beat Georges St-Pierr………ever………….
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Fantastic points my ass. Picking apart a record because he does not recognize the fighters. Yeah, that's good criteria for determining how good a fighter is...Laughable!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Dude......
He had their records and none of them was impressive, and besides hendo shields really hasn’t beaten anyone in the top 10. Sorry dude but Hella had your # today…………
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in fairness to Jake
he has beat the likes of:
Hendo
Mayhem
Lawler
Okami
Daley
Thompson
Condit
Sakurai
That is not shabby. I don’t discredit any of those wins. They are all top guys. I hate top 10 lists, but these guys have certainly been on them.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
According to Hella (who has my number) and Dragon - those fighters are not impressive and neither is Shields. Ha!
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Not really sure where it says anything about not being impressive.....
What I made of it is that Hella was saying that shields hasn’t beaten a top 10 guy in the top ten at ww. I haven’t seen anyone on here prove him wrong.
O_o
I think it's stupid
to imply that a guy who beats a TOP 3 MIDDLEWEIGHT couldn’t beat a TOP 10 WW.
So I guess since Shogun hasn’t beaten a Top10 MW, we shouldn’t make any assumptions about how he’d fare against Jorge Santiago or Robbie Lawler.
PUHLEEASE!!! Beating Hendo puts Shields easily in the Top 5 at WW.
Easily!
If you can beat Hendo, you have a really good chance of beating Fitch or Kos(if you can avoid that silly over-hand right he loves to throw).
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Dude I never said he couldn't beat a top ten ww.....
All that was said is that he HASN’T beat a top ten w which is completely true. And imo I don’t think he can beat a top 5 ww, but we will find out in good time.
P.S. You’re stupid jay :P
O_o
Hella had my #? LMAO. Ok, sure (not that its an ego thing anyway).
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You got owned OJ:)
Shields must suck because Hella hasn’t heard of his opponents.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
JAKE SHIELDS....
zzzzzZZZZZZZzZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz…. wake me up when he gets knocked out!
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