Former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida today confirmed his upcoming fight against fellow former champ Quinton "Rampage" Jackson. Rumored for November 2010, an exact date and venue have yet to be revealed.
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Rampage better come out super aggressive. It gives Lyoto the most chance to counter but That’s the only way to close in on the chin. I imagine though it will look like the Thiago S fight coz rampage isn’t that quick and plods forward flat footed. Doubt he’ll be scared of his power though.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 26, 2010 12:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ur wrong.
it’s going to look like the 2nd shogun-machida fight, rampage is going to counter and win.
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and according to Rashad he doesn't hit very hard.... wait...
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
by Bigger Zino on Jul 26, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Rampage is slow and flat-footed. He’s going to end the fight with a similar stupid look on his face that he made fun of Rashad for.
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He doesn’t have to be flat footed if he’s coming at Lyoto aggressively he has no chance of losing i say, lyoto can’t hurt Rampage and his defense isn’t there .
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can't hurt rampage?
Quittin Jackson? were talking about the same guy?
Rampage’s heart is gone. So are his chances.
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
by Bigger Zino on Jul 26, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Cant Help But Agree
Rampage got alot taken out of him mentally after being housed by Rashad. I dont think he has that warrior mentality, that killer instinct. This could end up being a ugly boring decision win for Machida.
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 26, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
so what about Machida who got KO'd ? good mental boost right there.
I think this is the best fight possible for Ramapge and it coming so soon after his loss to rashad is only good..
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Good point, Roberto. We will have to see how Machida reacts to that KO. I don't think the mental aspect will be that much for both. Its about gameplanning. Edge - Machida.
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-Stephen King
Ugh. My fandom for Machida stops there. I will be exiting at this stop, bus driver. Thanks, bye!
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by daniel worby on Jul 26, 2010 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
also wolfslair vs Black House
Wonder who’s got the edge there? Especially now that Ed Soares and Joinha are forcing (pushing really) everyone to start training together.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 26, 2010 1:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I want to like Wolfslair.. don't know why.. kind of a rocky balboa thing but yea nail on the head there NNR.
We’ve seen time and time again. Camps matter.
Wolfslair is no Black house.
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
Quit hating on the Wolfslair people
Wolfslair is the best MMA gym in the world right now. Don’t believe me? Check out the improvements in Cheick Kongo’s gg since he’s been training there…………………..oh wait a minute
you almost had me
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
Okay then
Check out the improvements in Bizzzzbings punching power last fight!!! This camp is hot ;-)
How about the great strategies coming out of that camp?
Oh, you got a weak chin and your fighting Dan Henderson who punches as hard as anyone? Why don’t you circle left, right into his power hand. That will work.
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
Since they were Marshmellow punches>>> diabetic shock??? Right Rashad?? Right?? :S
Its hard trying to excuse Rashads Knock out performance.
Even bettter
Brute Force and Power vs Fineness and Accuracy
And about Rampage countering, yes he only needs to land 1 big shot but Shad is faster than Rampage and Machida is faster than Shad…
by Edgecrusher71 on Jul 26, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
So by that logic Edgecrusher...then Shogun has the fastest hands at LHW
because Machida lost to Shogun who I suspect must be faster than Machida since he took him out?! Nahhh….very flawed logic.
Just because Machida beat Shad doesnt mean his hands are faster than Shads, it means he either countered correctedly or threw an effective combo when he saw the opening.
I can’t imagine Shogun’s hands being faster than Page’s yet he knocked out Machida with them.
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by WarriorSaint on Jul 26, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya left out one glaring hole in ....
…. Edgecrushers logic and reasoning …….. Shogun got beat by Forrest and Shogun looked like shit aginest Mark Cloeman . So does that mean Coleman and Griffin should be in the title talk too ?
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 27, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Swing and a miss cock bags ;-p
What I am saying is Page wasn’t able to counter Rashad very well because Shad was so much quicker and elusive and Machida is quicker than Shad and more elusive. So with that logic I think it will be hard for Page to connect with Machida. I don’t know what is so flawed about that.
by Edgecrusher71 on Jul 27, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes you slow folks just ....
…. don’t get it . Rashad and Machida use their quickness in different ways . Rashad use his to set up takedowns and Lyoto uses his to hit and run . Also you realize that your logic is in fact flawed , right ? The way your logic looks is A can beat B because C beat A . This is fighting not math .
And its hard for most guys to connect on Machida , but Shogun did it and hes much slower than Lyoto .
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 27, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
I am not saying A can beat B because C beat A. It is funny you talk about logic. I am saying that on a given night Machida is faster than Shad and Shad gave Rampage issues because of his speed, he was quicker to the punch. Regardless of how they used it, Shad gave Page problems do in large part to his speed. I am not talking about a whole fight where someone will win because they beat someone and so on. I am saying in a competition no one is perfect and it seems Rampage has issues with dealing with people that can get to the punch before he can. Like Forrest and Shad. Now Machida is more accurate and quicker than both those guys. I am not saying Machida will for sure with but that speed will give Rampage issues
by Edgecrusher71 on Jul 27, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
A dangerous fight for Machida.
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-Stephen King
Rampage couldn't put Rashad away. I'd say Machida has got this
probably just a unanimous decision though
Leerage....love the avatar...anyway I don't know that Page couldn't put Rashad away
more so than he just didn’t. I would like to see them fight again when Page hasn’t had such a long layoff…..I am willing to bet the same result doesnt happen.
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by WarriorSaint on Jul 26, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
For both OJR
Rampage got that left hand but Machida is better on his feet.
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by Eduardo Cruz on Jul 26, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
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agreed. this fight will be a tough fight for both….
im really liking this matchup, and now that its officially booked, the hype begins..
this should be a very entertaining fight for both ‘hardore’ and casual fans…
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by ricky~dooby on Jul 26, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Chida will Sub rampage like he did Soko
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
by Bigger Zino on Jul 26, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
sub?
i don’t know about that, zino..
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by ricky~dooby on Jul 26, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont think machida will sub rampage either
i think someone is getting knocked out in this fight. either page will get leg kicked to the point that he can barely walk, or the dragon will get ko’d with a crazy hook or something
never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do
the sub is coming. Rampage will get tired a chida will trip him and then lay on him
Page will make a mistake and it’s Welcome to Tapsville.
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
by Bigger Zino on Jul 26, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
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while i think it’s possible, on account of anything being possible in mma, i still think it’s pretty far fetched imo.. rampage does very well with jj defense…
if it does happen though, i will remember you called it zino..
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cool.
Whatever happens – will happen. But I think Page is going to lose his cool and be frusterated early. So Machida ftw
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
Its Actually Very Possible BZ.
However, after suffering his first Loss and KO I see Machida taking zero chances and pulling off a boring decision he wins on points from just small combos and maybe a trip TD once a round
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 26, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting.... I've never seen (no one has) Machida off a KO loss or a loss of any kind
Boring UD would be ol’skool Dragon FTW and is possible. Probably the highest likelyhood.
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
Machida's Camp and Father
Probably want him outside of Rampages reach as he jumps in and out scoring on small flurries. He may get inside for the leg trip once a round and may sit in Rampages guard to ride out a round.
Thats just what I feel anyways
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 26, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
If he can get a trip and land on Page, I can see BZ's scenario playing out to the T.
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im sorry fellas, but i just can’t see it happening..
i would be suprised if rampage got submitted by a guy liike machida let alone anyone in the lhw divison…
i do agree that rampage doesn’t seem to have the same drive he once had, so with that reason and the fact that anything can happen in mma, that would be the only way page loses via sub…
imo- machida still has that drive to compete so im leaning toward picking him to win.. but then again why would rampage take such a dangerous fight unless he feels that desire again??
lots of reasons to like this fight!~ i can’t wait..
formerly stinky~fingers
Q- but then again why would rampage take such a dangerous fight unless he feels that desire again??
A- $$$
O_o
i don't know dragon,
i think rampage would have gotten the same purse if he was fighting stephan bonnar..
formerly stinky~fingers
Purse maybe.......
but this is a main event caliber fight and he will get a cut of the ppv money (I would think) and this fight will sell more tickets than him vs. bonnar.
O_o
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is this a main event? even still i would think rampage gets a ppv regardless, idk?
does machida even have more fame than a guy like bonnar? imo- thats a good question too..
i get your point, but rampage could have fought anyone and would still get paid higher than most fighters… im not so sure if he picked machida for a better paycheck..
imo- i think he chose to fight rashad[at the time] over machida, cause machida doesn’t have as many fans…
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I got Machida winning this fight 9 times out of 10.
CAN’T WAIT to see the odds on this!
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Been thinking about this match-up for awhile now
Upon first review it would appear an open and shut case for Machida mainly because of the following:
1) Better camp
2) More well rounded MMA fighter
3) Better mindset = mentally tougher
4) Better strategy/gameplanning
For Page the advantages are:
1) Fight more likely to stay on feet
2) No big layoff between last fight and this one
3) KO power in both hands
4) Best Punch defense in the UFC
So I can imagine one of two scenarios:
1) Machida winning by points on a UD
2) Page corners Machida and wins the battle of return fire
Either way, getcha popcorn and use the restroom while Buffer is going through all the verbal gyrations that he is known for.
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-Aldous Snow
by WarriorSaint on Jul 26, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
thats "So I can imagine one *OR two scenarios"
"When the world hands you a Jeffrey.......Furry Walls, Furry Walls!"
-Aldous Snow
by WarriorSaint on Jul 26, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see that ANS except that I don't find Machida's style to be boring.
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-Stephen King
Me Neither
Boring in the eyes of the fans. Ive always admired his style. I meant like there will be no war there will be no highlight material
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 26, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I know what you meant and you are right...although there are some hardcores who find him boring. I understand their POV, though.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
he takes no damage... usually. I like watching that.
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
I grew up on boxing so I admire the evasive counter striker style. The philosophy of the sweet science is to hit and not get hit.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Exactly but alot of fans like to see blood and guts. If not, they boo and get restless. o_O
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I never understood that.......
When I watch fights I think “How would I want to fight?” and taking the least amount of damge is just smart. But the way anderson avoids damage sucks……..lol
O_o
The Adrenaline
and roar of the crowd plays a part. You want to entertain people when they boo
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 26, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
it does work though
What would Wand be without reckless abandon. That’s his Mojo
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
True....
And I love and respect him for it, just saying me personally, would not choose that style of fighting.
O_o
I’d definitely be a technician both offensively and defensively, what better way to fight then to constantly pop someone in the face.
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What up Roberto??? I don't know
why some of these folks believe that Machida will KO page…..do they not know that NO One has ever KO’ed Page with their fists?!
This fight should deliver unless Machida plays keep away.
"When the world hands you a Jeffrey.......Furry Walls, Furry Walls!"
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by WarriorSaint on Jul 26, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been MIA for a week OJ
Is Hamill fighting Tito?
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
Yes. Confirmed. I got Matt by slow murder.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Interesting match up
Surprising match up.
Matt by Hammers FTW. Can’t see how Tito does anything.
"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."
Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15
I think page is gonna take this..
The only thing that scares me are the leg kicks.. I think Page will rush him and Machida will get dropped. I’m sayin round 1 Ko. I think once Page gets him closed in with nowhere to go, it’s over!
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by Mal_FLoe on Jul 26, 2010 8:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think you have a very good point BZ
Lyoto’s clinching leg sweep is really tricky and Page’s balance is not near as good as Machida’s. Then again he might KO him like he did Silva. Either way Machida just has such a huge speed advantage.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jul 26, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Machida is going to annoy Rampage and throw him off his game
with his “boring” style. If Rampage has to chase him around I see him getting irritated and maybe being over aggressive.
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My birthday, would love to go to this fight for my bday.
I told you not to f*ck with me.
UOL reports it can take place at UFC 123; is it the same card in November?
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by Eduardo Cruz on Jul 26, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Wooooooo!!! War lyoto!
Time for page 2 back his big mouth. The dragons guna make page quit!
by d*locc on Jul 26, 2010 12:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sorry its off topic, but this is hilarious:
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by theworldismine on Jul 26, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Machida FTW
My guess ud, or choking page out in 3rd cus he won’t tap
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by Phenomenal Angel on Jul 26, 2010 1:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The only way Lyoto is gonna win this ....
…. fight is via decision . He’ll attempt to stay away from Rampage’s power and dance to a decision . Only one issue Rampage can KO him with one punch so if Machida counters and can’t hurt Rampage ( kinda like the Shogun fight ) that could be the opening that Rampage needs to KO Machida . Also I think Machida is going be be tentative and aware of Rampages KO power .
So my prediction for this fight is Rampage via KO . He’ll get in close Machida will attempt to counter and Rampage will land bomb and knock the " special " drink right outa Lyoto .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jul 26, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
Hopefully this fight will be in Anaheim.
All the taking page was doing was doing about Rashad getting ko’d is guna come back 2 bite him in the ass. Lyoto’s 2 smart of a fighter 2 brawl with page which is pages only chance. It’s guna be a great fight can’t wait.
by d*locc on Jul 26, 2010 2:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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