UFC Quick Quote: How many wins before Jon Jones gets a light heavyweight title shot?
by Jesse Holland on Jul 26, 2010 10:15 AM EDT
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"Jon just burst onto the scene but has looked so exciting in all his fights. I'm not privy to the thinking of Dana [White] on the matter, but Jon Jones is certainly one of those guys with a lot of expectation who Dana and Joe [Silva] will have to nurture in the correct way. A victory over Vladimir Matyushenko would already put Jones at the top and closing in on a title shot. He would probably be two or three fights away, and if he keeps winning it will be very hard to keep him from walking through that Octagon door to a title shot. Jon's got a great temperament, nobody is really pissed off by him, and he has plenty of people wanting to work out the mystery of how to beat him."
UFC UK President Marshall Zelaznik boards the "Bones" bandwagon (via ESPN.co.uk) in anticipation of Jon Jones' fight against Vladimir Matyushenko at UFC on Versus 2 on Aug. 1 in San Diego. The dynamic light heavyweight prospect has laid waste to the promotion's 205-pound division and made several veteran opponents, including Stephan Bonnar, Matt Hamill (DQ notwithstanding) and Brandon Vera look completely outmatched in the process. Is a light heavyweight title shot a foregone conclusion? Or will "The Janitor" run him down with his cleaning cart on Sunday night?
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as long as it’s top fighters, id ont see it taking long either..
he definitely has to prove himself against some legit comp….
he’ll get his big fights in no time..
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by ricky~dooby on Jul 26, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
yup.
He needs to fight some top competition. But he is on the right track.
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Lil Nog is living off of his past accomplishments, he’s only 2-0 in the UFC Jon Jones is 5-1 and that loss was a win. Winning so many fights in a row definitely adds up and is more impressive than Nog or anyone with a 2-0 record in the UFC even Houston Alexander got off to an impressive 2-0 start. Nog almost lost against Brilz so his future is uncertain, people have no idea if he’s still a top fighter or not he hasn’t proved anything and i personally doubt he’s able to string together as many wins as Jones.
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exactly
I’ve seen title shots given for less then what Jones had accomplished. Sonnen? Maia? Hardy? Brock?
Jones is 6-0 (dq). And those 12-6 elbows can’t even be thrown to the body hey? What a dumb rule. Anyways, he beats Vlad, and says he’s ready, let him go for it. Or give him loser of Page vs Machida.
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2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 26, 2010 10:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was wrong he's actually only 4-1 (5-0) in the ufc.
guess i’ll have to wait a week til aug.1 to get that 5-1/6-0 ufc record confirmed.
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Agreed, Jones dominated in his 5 UFC fights
He’s should be considered for a title shot after he destroys Maty. The only other options for a title shot at light heavy are:
Winner of Bader vs. Nogueira
Evans
You could make a case for those guys but Jones is a reasonable choice with a win over Maty. He definitely shouldn’t have to any more than 1 more fight after Maty to get his shot.
by H.I. McDunnough on Jul 26, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
yepp, either way, 6-0/5-1(DQ) after Sunday, and a 7-0/6-1(DQ) if he goes against winner of Nog/Bader
Is a huge streak in a confused and recycled 205 class. Get a fresh face.
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 26, 2010 11:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maia?
He had a bad loss to Marquardt, but he’d certainly accomplished more for his title shot than Jones at this point. He finished five guys in a row, four of them being subs of the night.
Even Sonnen beat two top contenders in Okami and Marquardt.
I agree with the general point that you don’t have to post a ton of victories to get a title shot, but to say that Maia (or Sonnen) accomplished less than Bones for their title shots is wrong.
As for Jones, I think it will depend on how he handles the Janitor and perhaps his next opponent. If he’s tearing these guys up, he’ll get his title shot very soon, probably just one more fight after Matyushenko. If he has trouble with Vladdy, then they’ll probably take him along more slowly, they want to protect him and do as much as possible for him to succeed.
Lets not forget 'why' Bones is not getting a title fight..
He’s 22yrs old, Bones is being brought up as the next big thing… there’s a theory Called.. “not rushing it”…. when Jones gets by the Janitor pit Bones Jones against Machida, Shogun, Rampage or A Silva or the most impressive winner of L’l Nog and T. Silva match up…. after that put him in the ‘A’ category… it’s not that he hasnt earned it…. it’s that a gradual upgrade in competition might ensure he becomes a champion in impressive fashion…. treat him like a TUF winner and all is gud!
He has 2 wins over over top 20 guys...
in Verra and HAmmil (which is an L, but it was a win the way he man handled him. That fight was going in a horrible direction for Matt). Vlad is still hoovering in the top 25 in a lot rankings. If he gets the win here he needs to get a top 15-10, then 1 or 2 top tens.
Maybe by next summer/fall we can see him going for a belt, if he continues winning. If he wins this he should get Forrest or Thiago and if he wins that Rashad (which I would love to see someone throw around Rashad and smash on his face like he did Verra) or a title shot, I think would very well be in order. He has already tossed around 2 wrestlers like they were inexperienced and he stood for a bit with Verra and looked good. Jones is the man. The only thing you have to question is how long he can make 205. He is 22 right now and is still relatively young. When he puts on the man muscles in his mid to late 20’s (he may have a hard time making 205) we may see him make a run at the HW title as well.
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Name a list of fighters you guys would like to see Jones get if he gets past Vlad. For me : Lil Nog, Rashad and Page.
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Not lil nog, he would get run over
But evans, rampage, machida, anderson are all good fights I want to see.
by Lester The Pimp on Jul 26, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Machida. lil nog, rampage. evans
they are the only people i see above him atm in the ufc, not including the champ of course
any of them would be good match ups
wouldnt mind seeing him tool t.silva either
Please don't ever let Carwin fight Big Nog! It would result in death
Can't decide who I hate more, Penn or Edgar
For me Griffin (I know he’s shit but he’s a name and could give him a bit of a work out), then Lil Nog if he gets past Bader, then one of Rashad or Rampage. Bit harsh on the guy expecting him to beat both Rashad and Rampage to earn a shot.
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shit, i would like to see jonny bones fight just about any top 205er, they would all be very entertaining…
but obviously he’s not going to get a huge name after vlad.. the ufc wants to build this guy up more.. so realisticly thinking a matchup, i could see a t.silva/bones fight possibly… and imo- that would be a good fight for bones and the fans…
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by ricky~dooby on Jul 26, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
What about Captain Paycheck?
is he really going to get a title shot if he beats toney…Couture/Jones???
Facebook is for gays!!!
That's lose lose for the UFC
If jones loses – Young prospect totally derailed by old has been
If randy loses – Cash cow humiliated by a young buck = Big hit in Coutures future marketability.
Also let's not forget people bones trains with Evans so I don't think they will fight each other.
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by Jamie The Peach Hunter on Jul 26, 2010 10:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Couture has no future.
He’s only fighting in the money league these days against names like Coleman, Toney, possibly Ortiz and any classic name they can find.
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geez, some of you guys make it sound like you think he should fight every top 5 205er before he gets his shot
How come no other UFC fighter has to beat this many ppl to get a title shot without complaints?
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2 Anderson Silva
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4 BK Penn
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by daniel worby on Jul 26, 2010 10:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
~hey i wouldn't complain at all..
i just think cause he’s young dana doesn’t want to throw him in with the top guys…
but imo- i would like to see him fight a top guy before his title shot..
it’s obvious their bulding him up..
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by ricky~dooby on Jul 26, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Every top 5?
How about atleast ONE top 10?
He could be 100-0 and not deserve a shot if all youve beaten are UFC picked cans to make your record look cool.
Two top 10 guys should be a requirement for a titleshot for everyone.
by Lester The Pimp on Jul 26, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
well, he's fighting matyushenko now, me taking a dump is probably more relevant than that fight.
Joe Silva is a fag and needs to put Jones in there against someone in his next fight and after he wins he’ll be fighting for the title.
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I think you are being a bit harsh Robby.
I’m really not sure who would win a fight between Matyushenko and Vera to be honest, I’d probably go with the Janitor just because Vera has looked like such garbage lately. So if that is the case, everyone he has fought has been better than the last person imo (Bonnar < O’Brien < Hamill < Vera). I see no problem with him being matched up against the Janitor, but if he wins in dominant fashion, absolutely up his competition.
2 top guys sounds about right, lester.
unfortunatly the ufc has pulled some bullshit before and gave tilte shots to undeserved challengers.
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by ricky~dooby on Jul 26, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
there has literally been tons who got shots for less
Its an endless list actually.
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 26, 2010 11:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
im bored, lets name a few real bad ones
brockness/randy
bj/matt hughes 1
randy/sylvia
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by ricky~dooby on Jul 26, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Evans
Thiago Silva
Jardine
Spider (debatable)
Cote
Thales
Sooooo many more
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 26, 2010 12:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jardine got a title shot?
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 26, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Couture is on the retirement tour so
him get railroaded by Jones wouldn’t mean much. In fact, if i was Jones, i would definitely welcome him and Forrest griffin as the next step ups. Good names for a resume, past champs and a durable enough fighters where he just gets to put work in and get cage time. The kid is still very young, he will undoubtedly be a champ, we still have 10+ years to watch him do his thing…….no need to make him go faster simply because he’s shown that he can.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 26, 2010 12:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
good post!
also i like “retirement tour”
Couture is on it, as is Hughes, and Tito.
KenySham should buy a ticket.
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 26, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
haha,.. lol, nnr
“couture is on a retirement tour”
your post definitely deserves a rec for that one..
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by ricky~dooby on Jul 26, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Rampage got a title shot after just one fight in the UFC with Marvin Eastman. Cro Cop was supposed to get his after he beat freakin Eddie Sanchez but Gonzo stopped him pretty brutally.
Big Nog got his after Heath Herring almost kicked his head out of the arena.
um, lets see, Randy Couture has had multiple title shots the worst probably being against Sylvia at HW coming off of 2 losses out of 3 fights at LHW.
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the ufc is more like the adult entertainment biz.
they use the same business model, and they just book whoever they feel is popular enough and who people wanna see.
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Agreed.
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They have taken some ques from WWE marketing
but that may be what it takes
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 26, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
to make money and to satisfy the fans yes.
but i’m a fan who care more about the sport and the natural competition. I don’t wanna see things get put together randomly, if it’s meant to be it’ll happen and that’s how it goes in the sports world, u don’t always get what you hoped for and that’s the beauty of sport and reality. Save the script for tv shows and Porno.
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its immoral and wrong.
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 26, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Machida did
Machida before he had been granted a title shot had never lost and beaten the following former UFC champs: Tito Ortiz, Rich Franklin, BJ Penn. He also finished Thiago Silva and like jones beat Bonnar and was 14-0 before he KO’d Rashad. Jones has had what 6 fights? If he wins this one on Saturday I say give hime the Bader vs Nog winner. If not then perhaps the Lyoto Rampage loser. Let Rich and Griffen fight.
If by a miracle he can squeak by vlad =D
I want 2 see him fight page, lyoto, AS, t silva. , lil nog.
by d*locc on Jul 26, 2010 11:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The Greg Jackson effect
Doesn’t he train with Rashad? I hope they don’t be like oh, we’re like brother’s and can’t fight each other.
bader/nog winner
If Jon Jones wins this Saturday he should get the winner of Ryan Bader/Lil Nog. If he wins that too I say give him a title shot.
If Machida crushes Rampage will he get a title shot? If Rashad is the champ then yes but if it is Shogun will people be ready for Shogun vs Lyoto 3 so soon? I’d like to Anderson fight Shogun unless Vitor is gonna fight him. Chael Sonnen is a joke. Yes he has a silver medal in wrestling…so what this is mma. Chael has no jiu-jitsu and no striking. He has never finished anyone and there is no way he controls Anderson for 5 rounds without being clipped by a big knee, punch or something.
No title fight for machida after one win
He’d have to beat another top guy after the rampage fight
by Lester The Pimp on Jul 26, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Bader over lil nog
plus Bader/Jones would be a good challenge for both guys and we would be able to see where they stand in the division and career.
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And I agree. Winner of Nog vs Bader, and that’s it. He gets shot if he wins. Max. 2-3 more after Vlad? That’s just nuts.
Also, Mondays a holiday here, so I can still get sh*t faced for these fights. I assume that’s the case for USA as well?
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4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 26, 2010 11:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i dunno. its a "civic holiday" here. not the case where you are?
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 26, 2010 11:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
so it's a holiday for all of Canada except PEI/Quebec/Newfoundland to my knowledge
I think “Civic Holidays” are just holidays that are gov’t mandated so we make sure we have a certain amount a year. That’s what I am led to understand anyways, but I’m open to learning otherwise.
All I know is in Canada, we can get drunk and not get up for work the next day after VS2.
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 26, 2010 11:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Champ,
I’m actually just getting word its Memorial Day in the USA (just from a friend), so you could be good to go too. And its Victoria Day here so, maybe that helps?
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 26, 2010 12:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
alright, my final answer is, its Saskatchewan Day here lol
So potentially, just my province has it off. But if anyone else does, please name the holiday and where you are haha. It will help others who want to get sloshed for these fights without having to work the next day.
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 26, 2010 12:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
negative, that was last Monday of May
I’m actually just getting word its Memorial Day in the USA
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 26, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The only holiday I can think of that's coming up is Labor day
but I don’t think it’s this coming Monday.
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its Alberta Day, Manitoba Day, and Sask day for sure
I can not confirm anything else, or if any one else has a holiday. I’m being told by a girl I know, that her work calendar has it listed as a “Civic holiday”, and all of Canada aside from Quebec/Newfoundland, and PEI, are off.
So all of Canada except morons, according to her. But I can only confirm the 3 I placed in the title. And yes Labor Day is in first week of Sept.
GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo
by daniel worby on Jul 26, 2010 3:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
prediction
Chael will get KO’d by a knee to the head if not dropped by a big right first. Guy has talked so much trash no only about Anderson but about martial arts. Chael can’t kick or punch or submitt guys therefore wrestling is all that matters in a fight in his mind. He has to believe that because it is all he can do.
I think Silva's going to place a punch when Chael goes to shoot in.
I think Silva’s going to use his footwork to keep the distance. I don’t know if Sonen gets close.
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i was thinking knee as well, but im leaning more toward a high kick to the dome…
i’ll say 1st round left headkick…
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or a straight kick to the chops...
either way i think andy’s going to kick him in the head/face for the KO..
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by ricky~dooby on Jul 26, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Just noticed
Bones has a 10.5 inch reach advantage over Maty.
by H.I. McDunnough on Jul 26, 2010 10:44 AM EDT reply actions
Its a miracle that he hasnt been submitted yet
you could pretty much armbar him from the locker room.
by Lester The Pimp on Jul 26, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
IMO
If Jones defeats Vladimir then he is in the top 5 rotation )Evans, Machida, Rampage, Anderson). The Middleweight division is in confusion with Bisping, Vitor, Leben and Wandy all in limbo basically. I think the next logical step is this…..Rampage vs. Machida, Anderson vs. Jones (If Belfort remains on the IR and soundly beats Sonnen) and Evans vs. Franklin.
anderson vs jones would be so damn good
Dream matchup right there.
by Lester The Pimp on Jul 26, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
I just dont see Anderson being wasted in a lay off just to maybe fight Vitor. If Chael is beat soundly then no one will buy in to a challenger that sounds great, fights ok. It also gives Leben/Wandy/Vitor/Bisping/Nate time to create the next undisputed number 1 contender. Rampage vs. Machida will be a huge showing of what either is made of because, both were shooked it seemed by losing. Evans is the number 1 contender as stated and a fight against Rich will show if hes taking training 100% or if hes not ready for shogun. If jones runs over Vlady and beats a possible anderson, theres no denying his spot as the contender after evans/shogun
by ThePunisher on Jul 26, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he get's a top 5 guy if he looks good against Matyushenko.
If he can dominate or put away someone in the top 5 then I think he could easily be pushed into a title fight.
So 1 more after this one and I say he’s ready. Depending on how he looks of course.
by HappyLittleTreez on Jul 26, 2010 11:30 AM EDT reply actions
I see Jones
getting really far, and then actually losing to a great Ju Jitzu fighter due to carelessness. It sounds like I’m echoing Fedor, but with the long arms Jones has, which were previously discussed, and his great take down/ ground and pound skills, its not too hard to imagine him getting caught. Luckily though, the LHW division is not home to as many JJ tacticians as the other divisions.
I've thought the same thing
I thought Vera should have had him several times, but couldn’t execute, for whatever reason. One poster made the point that he was getting pounded. But, that pounding is what so often presents the opportunity to grab something for a sub.
I thought Jones looked a little careless in that fight, and figured maybe he was just being too aggressive. After thinking about it more though, I’m wondering if he isn’t still so green that he isn’t even aware of how badly he’s exposing himself.
by The real Philo on Jul 26, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Weak..
Bones is MAYBE. B-league at best. Too much hype for wins over lack luster competition. The guy couldnt even finish Matt Hammill in a proper manner and LOST. LMAO.
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come on man
I like hammil and wanted him to win but jones made him look bad
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by Phenomenal Angel on Jul 26, 2010 1:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like Hammill too..
but he is far from a world beater.
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faiiiilllllll-uuuuureeeeeeee
(name that movie)
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 26, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
you jagaloons
Ima take one of those fake hearing devices and shove it so far down ur ass u can hear the sound of ur small intestine as it produces shit
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by Phenomenal Angel on Jul 26, 2010 3:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Movie?
I thought failure was your first name.
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I guess it depends on what you mean by B level
Personally, I don’t think he’s ready to fighting for the title. So, for me, that automatically precludes him from the top tier.
Does that place him at the B level?
B level seems more like guys who are pretty good fighters, but have no realistic chance of getting into the title picture any time soon (at least not on the basis of their fighting skills). That doesn’t describe Jon.
He’s unquestionably an up-and-comer.
by The real Philo on Jul 26, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
On even Money
I’d take Jones over Shogun right now
Shogun lost a close decision! Everyone get crazy!
ShoGun's knees are a huge problem, as we have seen he doesnt do well coming off layoff
so given the circumstances i might think about that as well (if were talking jones as ShoGuns return fight).
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 26, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
And you prolly wear..
Affliction and TapouT shirts on the reg…
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Jones he's not ready yet
Next fight for Bones should be Franklin. I’d put them at par for belt contention
Winner of that fights the winner of the Machida/Rampage tilt.
that’s two quality opponents to test him.
Anderson fights Rashad for the LHW belt(while Shogun is out).
Next year this time Bones is fighting for the belt. either against Shogun or Silva.
he should
After matyushenko (if he wins) he should take the winner of silva vs boetsch (probably silva) and for the number one contender the winner of machida vs rampage
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