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UFC 121: Tito Ortiz vs Matt Hamill booked for Oct. 23 in Anaheim

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It's teacher versus student at UFC 121 as former light heavyweight champion and Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 3 Coach Tito Ortiz takes on one-time pupil Matt Hamill on Oct. 23 at the Honda Center in Anaheim, California, according to a report from MMAfighting.com.

Ortiz (15-7-1) has continued to struggle inside the Octagon, failing to notch a win since abusing a geriatric Ken Shamrock at UFC "The Final Chapter" back in October 2006.

He most recently coughed up a split decision loss to Forrest Griffin in the UFC 106 main event from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas this past November.

Following the fight -- his first since returning from major back surgery -- the former 205-pound kingpin complained of a "cracked skull" and other maladies, including an empty gas tank. While the medical layoff was behind some of his rust, it's been evident for some time that Ortiz is no longer the dominant force he was in the early 2000's.

That, coupled with another neck surgery that booted him from his TUF 10 duties and subsequent trilogy with Chuck Liddell at UFC 115, and it's hard to imagine just how much "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" has to offer at this stage of his career.

Star-divide

Hamill (9-2) has quietly strung together four straight wins since a technical knockout loss to Rich Franklin at UFC 88: "Breakthrough" in September 2008.

Of course no one is celebrating his DQ win over Jon Jones after "Bones" dropped a few 12-6 "hammers" on the former wrestler's mug at the TUF 10 Finale last December, but the "W" stands regardless of the beating he took.

His most recent effort was a majority decision win over Keith Jardine at the TUF 11 Finale that ultimately resulted in the "Dean of Mean" getting his UFC pink slip.

Can he do likewise against Ortiz?

Headlined by Brock Lesnar vs. Cain Velasquez, UFC 121 will also feature the Octagon debut of Jake Shields when he takes on Martin Kampmann.

Stay tuned to MMAmania.com for more information on this still-developing fight card.

(FanPost edited and promoted by MMAmania.com)

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The blind vs. the deaf. Should be interesting.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

you forgot "and stupid"

next to blind.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 22, 2010 3:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wouldn’t have the same ring to it.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

shut up bro.

u should tito “the genius.” cause that’s what he is.

the beauty is in the attempt !

by RoBerto. on Jul 22, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tito’s a verb now?

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

An intransitive one too.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jul 22, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

wish i knew too.

I just spell out what sounds good.

the beauty is in the attempt !

by RoBerto. on Jul 22, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh right, i missed that one.

u should “call” him tito the genuis..

the beauty is in the attempt !

by RoBerto. on Jul 22, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tito You!

Go Tito yourself, you mothatito!

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't understand.

The action of Titoing can only be performed by Tito and no one else. I can NOT Tito myself.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jul 22, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha!

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes dandeman.

You did your homework I can see.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jul 22, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Homework?

fuck!

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you got your doctor's paper you'll be fine.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jul 22, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Hey babe, sorry I’m late. I was down at the store and I picked a fight with this dude, but he actually called me on it and was waiting in the parking lot. Needless to say, I Tito’d right the hell out of there.”

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exception.

Touché.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jul 22, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Man, these kids were throwing snowballs at me down on 3rd street and if I hadn’t Tito’d at the last second I would have got nailed right in the face.”

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have got nailed right in the face Jenna’d

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha well typed

enzo-enormous
http://blog.ohsoawesome.com

by enzo-enormous on Jul 22, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Yeah, there’s no way I would’ve gotten this job if I hadn’t Tito’d my ass off all over the application.”

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

“I was up all night last night. My three year-old was Titoing and Titoing at the top of her lungs for five solid hours.”

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of you guys should add Tito'd/ing/

to the Urban Dictionary. Here is the link if one of you want to do it. AS of now the veb form listed for being Tito’d is this….
 The act of smashing your elbow across a girl’s cheek and nose while having sex, similar to the way Tito Ortiz put Ken Shamrock on the ground in their last fight and pounded his face to dust.
“Hey yo, I was fuckin’ this girl last night and I tito’d her!”
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tito%27d

But you can edit or add the Titoing or your own version of Tito’d.
 http://www.urbandictionary.com/

Florida Laws: 1- Having sexual relations with a porcupine is illegal. 2-If an elephant is left tied to a parking meter, the parking fee has to be paid just as it would for a vehicle.3- You may not fart in a public place after 6 P. 4- Oral sex is illegal. 5-You may not kiss your wife’s breasts.

by Da Monkey on Jul 23, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good lord, the stand up on display will be zzzZZZZZZZZZ

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasnt Matt, Tito's protege?

that was his boy on the show? and even after? and now theyre fighting?

I like it tho!!! Two wrestlers with awful standup.

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 22, 2010 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Hammill would be a better commentator than Tito.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i feel bad for the camera man when tito is commentating, they cant see shit passed his fatass head

made a bet on mmamania.com with mma guru roy nelson vs junior dos santons, i got roy nelson

by randy murders on Jul 22, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel bad for the poor bastard who hires him to commentate.

the beauty is in the attempt !

by RoBerto. on Jul 22, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depending on who is refereeing the fight...

They can call it:

UFC 121: Blind, Deaf, and Dumb.

"The #1 Heavy Weight of the World Brock Lesnar!" - "All Aboard The Pain Train Chug a Chug a Choo Choo"

by StrikerDave on Jul 22, 2010 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Lesnar’s fighting on that card too, so the title is appropriate.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why? Brock is blind?

I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!

by ViolentMike on Jul 22, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha no, hes not blind

hes deaf, he cant hear anything over his incredibleness

never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do

by child on Jul 22, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i give tito props for not whining (yet) about fighting someone he's close to...

I like the feeling of hunting down what I feed my family. If there’s a beast out there capable of hunting down Brock Lesnar, he would do it and make me the trophy on his den wall. But the laws of nature dictate that I’m going to be the one who goes into the wild and comes home with the evening’s bounty. - The #1 ranked HW in the world...

by DrewMoney$$$ on Jul 22, 2010 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

Not that anyone cares, but where’s Tito go after he loses this??? The exit’s my guess.

by attakdog on Jul 22, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

K-dog. Long time no read. What’s cracking, mate?

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh it is you Double J

Thought it might be an imposter. I asked about you last week and OJR said you hadn’t been on here for ages? I’m good mate thanks, hows things in sunny canada?

by attakdog on Jul 22, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty awesome, actually.

Yeah, I haven’t been the victim of any identity theft for a while. Probably ‘cause I’m too busy to smash mongoloids full time anymore. A lot od these cats don’t even k
now who they be messin’ with, LOL.

Cheers.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad to hear it

Well the forum’s are all the better for your presence, your put downs are sorely missed on said mongoloids.

by attakdog on Jul 22, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truth.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's right mang

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 22, 2010 4:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm a fan.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jul 22, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hamill by ground and pound in the 2nd.

Cause Stone cold said so……..while he bitch-slapped Debra.

by UFC ICE FAN on Jul 22, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like vaginas. End of story.

Strawberries are delicious. End of story.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

DEAL WITH IT….end of story

I'm Not Afraid of Dying, I'm a Little Bit Scared of What Comes After...

by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 22, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like eating strawberries off said vaginas. End of story.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonder no more!

enzo-enormous
http://blog.ohsoawesome.com

by enzo-enormous on Jul 22, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha!

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

you guys forgot to add......

end of story………end of story

never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do

by child on Jul 22, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. Good call, but not so hygienic. Besides, you’d be eating them off bubble-butt ass cracks from what I’ve gathered.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jul 22, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Utterly fascinating and repulsive at the same time.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey what the fuck boys!?! its a flawless method!!!

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 22, 2010 4:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We didn't question it efficiency...

Just saying it’s repulsive to a degree…as opposed to simply taking a shower together (which is fun in its own right)

Bullets dodge Fedor.

by freenow82 on Jul 22, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. These young men have alot to learn.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

alot to learn?!?

So everytime you wanna munch some rotten cherries, you’re gonna go get in the bloody shower and half drown on water rolling off this poor girls slop hole? Where’s the spontanaity in that? Just do the finger test and secretive sniff, and then “Play Ball!!!”.

Jeez, you guys. Act like their life threatening. “Don’t be scurred, its only pussy.”

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 22, 2010 5:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If I wanted that type of a lingering scent on my fingers I would go work in a fish market. Good day to you, sir!

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

so spicy senorita ole mami

Up there says “OJR I want you to lick my spicy beef taco, and toss my badunkadunk”. You’ll say ‘sure let’s go to my shower’. And she says “Oooo GoatBoy, but I want you now! Arriba!”, you’ll still press for a shower? Which could be miles away if you’re at the club or if someones in the shower too! Or the shitter and they just stunk it up! My goodness! What about just doin every creepy thing imaginable! They can’t all be done in the shower! Good lord OJR! C’mon!!!

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 22, 2010 5:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i got my own place too! i meant if you were at a club or house party

As I’m doubting she comes door to door asking to hang out with OJR’s.

Light candles?
Throw flower petals on the ground?

Then watch the Notebook and hold each other or what?

My turn:

I say good day sir!!

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 22, 2010 6:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Just get down to business, skip foreplay

I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.

by David W-S on Jul 22, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the ladies really dig that.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree,

don’t care to see it either.

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

END OF STORY.......

……………………….

Shogun will have the longest championship reign in the UFC

by manalito on Jul 22, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone explain to me why tito still fights in the UFC

LOSS
LOSS
DRAW
LOSS

Come on, not even Lesnar would be allowed to stay after that.

by Lester The Pimp on Jul 22, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Dunno?? He's still a name?? I'm struggling

Can’t believe anyone would purchase a PPV just to see TITo nowadays

by attakdog on Jul 22, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It has to be something in the contract that has yet to be fulfilled.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brilliant.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeh he has and the fertitta’s had a threesome with her

Please don't ever let Carwin fight Big Nog! It would result in death

Can't decide who I hate more, Penn or Edgar

by ufcaddict on Jul 22, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

you got half of it, attackdog

He’s still a name AND he’s a name the UFC doesn’t want showing up on a competitor’s roster. Dana doesn’t give a crap about losing Tito. He does give a crap about seeing Tito’s name on a Strikeforce poster. Tito, Forrest, Chuck, Randy…these are guys the UFC will never allow to fight for anyone else. They were keys to the UFC’s transition into a major promotion and they don’t want them doing the same for anyone else.

by (shonuff) on Jul 25, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably cause he's still a "name"

And signing him up accomplishes the same thing they signed James Toney for – so they won’t fight in Strikeforce.

by Hardcase on Jul 22, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right on.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jul 22, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never understood why Hamill

doesn’t do more GNP. Does anyone really want to see him box?

"Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

Fan of: Cole Miller, Dentist Neer, Alan Belcher, Bones Jones, Frank Mir

by Pootwich on Jul 22, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn't see that coming...

Didn’t think they’d want to fight each other. Which would be BS as they don’t train together. I was almost thinking we’d see something like Tito vs. Vera for a while there.

by Hardcase on Jul 22, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

UFC 121 is freaking sick!!!

dayum nice card for sure!!!

Cain vs Brock
Shields debut vs Kampmann
Tito vs Hammil
Diego vs Paulo Thiago
Gonzaga vs Schaub
Duffee vs Madsen
Taylor vs Stout
Cote vs Lawlor

Shogun will have the longest championship reign in the UFC

by manalito on Jul 22, 2010 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Indeed it will.

I would like to see Schaub put on his back and see how he does. He seems to be improving and I think he might just have what it takes to compete at a high level given some time.

But I will be rooting for Gonzo… Kinda feel sorry for how his career is going.

Bullets dodge Fedor.

by freenow82 on Jul 22, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only if you find watching Shaub get destroyed interesting.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

How dare you!

You should have said: “May I ask why?”

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jul 22, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol. Sorry. JeremyJackson

May I be so bold to inquire as to why you think so?

by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can't speak directly to him.

Speak of him in the third person and Do Not Look in his eyes. Don’t smile and keep a low position. I just care ’bout you ANS.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jul 22, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL. I think Gonzaga’s at least as good standing, way better on the floor, and much more experienced.

‘Course you never know what you’ll get from Gabe. He’s definitely a front runner.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

if i say it is.

it is. franko mironov has nothing to offer standing and not on the ground either.

the beauty is in the attempt !

by RoBerto. on Jul 22, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

So if Schaub beats GG and since Mir is getting no respect...

…then someone please tell what is so remarkable about Carwin? People act like he was Crocop in his prime…After GG and Mir, Carwin has beaten huge names like Neil Wane and Pendergarst….amazing fightography…amazing. :o1

"The #1 Heavy Weight of the World Brock Lesnar!" - "All Aboard The Pain Train Chug a Chug a Choo Choo"

by StrikerDave on Jul 22, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

How dare you call neil wain a no name!

Please don't ever let Carwin fight Big Nog! It would result in death

Can't decide who I hate more, Penn or Edgar

by ufcaddict on Jul 22, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marketing Wise

Carwin got the push for fighting like 12 times and his total in cage time was like 25 minutes. Its not who you beat its how you win mentality

by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dont you find a flaw with that.

Beat 10 Neil Wains and 1 GG (who is almostt out of the UFC) and a MIr (with a loss to Nog would 5-5 over his last TEN) get you more cred than say…
….JDS who smashed Werdum, then schooled Struve (okay a bit of a softball), then stood with Crocop (even today standing in front of Crocop is a risky idea), then pummeling Yvel, then…wait for it…Gonzaga as well.

I actually believe that Carwin was given the shot because he was as big as Brock and Dana wanted to answer the doubters who said that Brock was all size and no talent.

Since Brock couldn’t take down a fresh Carwin, turtled when punched, and admittedly used the game plan of staying turtled (or the new buzz phrase , weathered the storm) until he could sub a catatonic man, I think that it showed how little talent Brock does have. Can you imagine a great Asian master training a young martial artist and saying, " just weather the storm by letting the opponent punch himself out on your face and then attack is tired body…real technique there…I hope he tries it again.

And now that I think about it, was Dana’s plan to show the one over sized, inexperienced fighter (Brock) is for real by putting him in against another over sized, inexperienced fighter (Carwin)? Okaaaaaaay.

"The #1 Heavy Weight of the World Brock Lesnar!" - "All Aboard The Pain Train Chug a Chug a Choo Choo"

by StrikerDave on Jul 22, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since Brock couldn’t take down a fresh Carwin, turtled when punched, and admittedly used the game plan of staying turtled (or the new buzz phrase , weathered the storm) until he could sub a catatonic man, I think that it showed how little talent Brock does have. Can you imagine a great Asian master training a young martial artist and saying, " just weather the storm by letting the opponent punch himself out on your face and then attack is tired body…real technique there…I hope he tries it again

Haven’t you heard, David? All the top senseis are teaching it now. It’s called the “run away and pray”.

The nice thing about it is that it requires no previous athletic experience whatsoever. It’s perfect for that special aspiring martial artist who doesn’t really want to fight but has a pretty big noggin.

The Bitch Kwon Do dojo down the street is accepting students. Girls only.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

I think Brock got his pink belt in Bitch Kwon Do for that performance.

Kalib Starnes is the “prodigy” of Bitch Kwon Do with the rare polka dot belt.

And Tito has a belt that is colored to look like a bandage.

"The #1 Heavy Weight of the World Brock Lesnar!" - "All Aboard The Pain Train Chug a Chug a Choo Choo"

by StrikerDave on Jul 22, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Striker
JDS who smashed Werdum, then schooled Struve (okay a bit of a softball), then stood with Crocop (even today standing in front of Crocop is a risky idea), then pummeling Yvel, then…wait for it…Gonzaga as well.


Struve is not only a bit of a softball but doesnt belong in the UFC. He is so young he should be in smaller promotions earning his stripes. Cro Cop has looked so bad that it was basically a Gimme fight for JDS. I wouldnt have been shocked had Anthony Perosh win that fight on 4 days notice. Mirko isnt a dangerous striker anymore so then any UFC HW Striker. And Yvel was a suspect signing if it was anymore then keeping him from Strikeforce.

Carwins shot was marketing sure. He was UNDEFEATED no matter his opponents. Floyd Mayweather is undefeated and his first 20 wins were probably scrubs, Carwin took the right approach to starting MMA. He took on guys that were on his MMA level. Then he got called to the big show and started fighting tougher guys each time.

And concerning Brocks lack of skill. I saw it somewhere online a couple of the Gracies broke down his submission and actually said how good of technique was used and how surprised they all were. They showed what Carwin could have done to escape, etc. It was a great video.

by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

ANS

I remember you saying much earlier during one of those HW polls on here that you thought Lesnar would beat Cain. Do you still think so?

Well the weird thing about me is that I grew up fighting and one of my friends introduced me to MMA and I was like, 'Whoa, you mean I can beat up white dudes and not go to jail?"
-Rampage

by LeeroyJenkin$ on Jul 23, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno, normally i'd straight take gonzo

^^leave it alone, you know what I meant^^

But Schaub has been growing fast, and adapting well. He got caught by the future HW champ, so I don’t blame him for that. Also, he made it passed mini Borck effortlessly. I mix that with Gonzo’s inconsistency and its a good under dog bet. But a tough fight to call. 68% Gonzo’s fight to win.

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 22, 2010 5:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He got caught by the future HW champ

LOL. Maybe if Dairy Queen ever has it’s own HW division.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey fuck you! i worked hard to slip that in there so deceptively.

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 22, 2010 5:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You gots ta wake up pretty early in the morning, motherfucker.

Heh.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

so i take it, you're taking Dos Santos?

Fuck, I like him too, but Nelson is the man! Ever since he told everyone how easy it is to beat Kimbo, and how you don’t gotta hurt the guy, just enough punches will stop any fight, and then did it? I was in love! He rules man!

Anyways I would run around beating off in every corner of every room in my townhouse if JDS ‘God of Striking’ gets KO’d by Nelson! Then cold clocked Brock!

Eeeeeeeeeeee!

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 22, 2010 6:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Holy shit. LOL.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worbs rules his own planet. Enough said. Have a good one boys. I am out.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same. Later bro.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

aww! love you guys!

hugs

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 22, 2010 6:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nelson's awesome and watching him make Dana look like an even bigger tool is priceless but he ain't beating Cigano

I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.

by David W-S on Jul 22, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

This looks like its going to be a really stacked card. Im glad they got Shields in there sooner rather than later as well.

by JTKing on Jul 22, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what they are doing

Cain
Diego
Tito
I’m not saying but I’m just saying

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your Not Overthinking

Im sure there trying to lure the Latino demographic

by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're doing it a lot lately,

but I guess if it works more power to them.

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brazil vs USA

Now 3 Hispanic/Latino fighters. Im sure there will be an Asian invasion card.

by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Asian Invasion, nice.

I can’t think of a full line up for such an event.

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sexyama

okami
Fire ball kid (if still around)
Munoz

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Philipino.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, didnt notice that.

Shogun will have the longest championship reign in the UFC

by manalito on Jul 22, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

They want my people to spend money. Dana i do not appreciate you attempts to lure us to Anaheim.

But damn I’m going to buy tickets any way. Damn you Dana, damn you for bringing such an exciting card to us in So Cal. Now, if I can afford the 500 dollar tixs? hmmm; shit kids dont need to eat; food is overrated.

by dandeman on Jul 22, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

And electricity, who needs it?

now you got beers.

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love it for the UFC to come back

but instead we get SF headline by King Mo, crap.

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here are Mo's advantages in my mind:

- 29 years old (as opposed to a very green 23) making him more mature
- Much higher Level credentials (which is where the fight would take place as I don’t see JOnes stopping Mo’s takedowns (Mo is very strong, even though Jones has that crazy reach)

The way I think the fight would go: Mo would take down Jones relatively easily and keep him there wearing him down leading to either a decision win or even a finish depending on Jones conditioning.

Bullets dodge Fedor.

by freenow82 on Jul 22, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is my take

I see Mo taking Jones down, then Jones will repeatedly punch and back ahnd him in the face for the rest of the fight, while Mo does not try to advance for defend himself, but Mo will win a decision

enzo-enormous
http://blog.ohsoawesome.com

by enzo-enormous on Jul 22, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Free.

I have seen with my own eyes Jon Jones throw around wrestlers left and right. In credentials sure Mo wins but in MMA Jon Jones wouldnt be tooled in the wrestling depeartment and he would desively win in the striking dept. The last statement of course my opinion.

by AintNoSunshine on Jul 22, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right now I couldn't pick between them or Mr Wonderful

All 3 are amazing wrestlers and freakishly athletic, and all 3 have very bright futures at 205. I want to see them all fight each other at some point to determine who is the best. Shogun, Machida and Rashad will struggle to deal with these 3 when they hit their prime.

I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.

by David W-S on Jul 22, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buy chew toys for the kids if they get hungry, aluminum foil for clothes and candles for electricity. There you go - have fun dandeman.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn I screwed up... I should've saved the Tito Ortiz photos for this thread...

O well..

Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

by O damn he got caught on Jul 22, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bring them on anyway. Love that movie, OD. FYI -They are rebooting it.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully they dont ruin it, and this was in the chick mma thread, directed at Roberto

Mongol General: What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

by O damn he got caught on Jul 22, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha yeah right.

the beauty is in the attempt !

by RoBerto. on Jul 22, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

After dinner dessert?

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bring them back!

Funny Tito pics are always welcomed

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jul 22, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

too bad Tito and Diego are gonna get smashed.

Cain’s gonna be the HW champ soon.

Well the weird thing about me is that I grew up fighting and one of my friends introduced me to MMA and I was like, 'Whoa, you mean I can beat up white dudes and not go to jail?"
-Rampage

by LeeroyJenkin$ on Jul 23, 2010 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn't we just have one of those fights for 120??

Hell Cote’d do, just anyone with some talent who isn’t british

by attakdog on Jul 22, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry for getting ideas above my station, I'll do some lines as punishment

I must love all british cards father Dana gives us
I must love all british cards father Dana gives us
I must love all british cards father Dana gives us
I must love all british cards father Dana gives us
I must love all british cards father Dana gives us
I must love all british cards father Dana gives us
I must love all british cards father Dana gives us

by attakdog on Jul 22, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please add - Bisping is the crown jewel of the UK MMA scene.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha!!!

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you did that's why i said ripped.

Credit should be directed to attakdog

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bisping sucks balls, how about that?

Sod him and his meaningless fights taking up the space on UK cards. Damn him for being in the main event and ruining an entire card for me.

I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.

by David W-S on Jul 22, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the plus it saved me hundreds of pounds and a 10 hour round trip

I’ll just find a cheaper excuse to get pissed in London and save the rest for Vegas 2011.

I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.

by David W-S on Jul 22, 2010 4:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Smart lad.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 22, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

This fight shud be on UFN!

Ufc 121 duznt need any mediocre fights & this is just that. Ufc hasn’t came 2 Anaheim in years we deserve better! This ain’t a UK card =p

by d*locc on Jul 22, 2010 4:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

hmm thats not the way I read it.

He said 121 doesn’t need any mediocre fights and this (Hamill-Tito) is just that.

Bullets dodge Fedor.

by freenow82 on Jul 22, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tito does have the power to ruin an entire card just by showing his face.

You have a point, dlocc.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jul 22, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

you guys are gonna look pretty stupid after Tito wins in impressive fashion

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Jul 23, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he shows up, he could win.

I think he’s a lot stronger than Hamill. But with all the injuries…I dunno. I think the Tito of 3 years ago would beat Hamill easily, but now, I’d give 50/50 odds on him even showing up.

by (shonuff) on Jul 25, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Hamil get into as it must be he beat Tito up.

"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
''A man is not finished when he's defeated; he's finished when he quits'' Richard M. Nixon on Fedor's loss

by Eduardo Cruz on Jul 22, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

tough fight for the huntington beach kid.

When your body says no you have to start listening at some point and Tito’s definitely reached that point.

the beauty is in the attempt !

by RoBerto. on Jul 22, 2010 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I think we’ve all reached that point when it comes to Tito.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF RoB!! You given up on Tito?! Fuck that...

Fire up the Tito wagon !! We rollin’…One last time!!!!! (unless of course Tito wins, in which case I would campaign for Tito to get a title shot AND inducted into the HOF

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Jul 23, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Tito already earned a spot in the Hall Of Fame

He’s always been one of my most hated fighters, if not THE most hated. But he has 6 title wins. That’s more than Chuck, Rich, or BJ. He’s still the longest running LHW champ in UFC history. I think that earns him a place in the HOF.

by (shonuff) on Jul 25, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

he makes it pretty hard for me

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 22, 2010 6:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He makes RoB pretty hard too.

"Cowards die many times before their deaths,
The valiant never taste of death but once."

Julius Caesar (II, ii, 32-37)

by Jeremyjackson on Jul 22, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rob tastes good

has good taste. Queerly.
                            
clearly.

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 22, 2010 6:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

damn asterisks! screwed me again!

But not like Rob does…
*doesn’t

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 22, 2010 6:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

hahahah

no man u have good taste, it’s good to someone else around here actually enjoying all these hilarious dudes.

the beauty is in the attempt !

by RoBerto. on Jul 22, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya man, love the guys with personalities

Too many text book, Rasheed Wallace, Tim Duncan’ers in MMA.

GSP is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 GSP
2 Anderson Silva
3 Fedor Emelianenko
4 BK Penn
5 Jose Aldo

by daniel worby on Jul 22, 2010 10:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rasheed Wallace?

The guy with the most Technical Fouls in NBA history?

Facebook is for gays!!!

by MMACHAMP on Jul 22, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wondering myself champ... Rasheed is all but textbook

Duncan on the other hand…………. Sry just fell asleep a little

Bullets dodge Fedor.

by freenow82 on Jul 23, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so excited to see Tito lose and make 10 ridiculous excuses for it!!!

Well the weird thing about me is that I grew up fighting and one of my friends introduced me to MMA and I was like, 'Whoa, you mean I can beat up white dudes and not go to jail?"
-Rampage

by LeeroyJenkin$ on Jul 23, 2010 2:42 AM EDT reply actions  

At least we won't have Tito trash talking Matt too much in this one.

I see this being along the lines of UFC 88 when Matt fought Rich, Rich was the guy who helped bring Matt into the world of MMA and it was a friend vs friend, mentor vs student kind of situation. Matt was Tito’s top pick for season 3 of TUF and Tito spent more time working with Matt than anyone else on that show so again it’s mentor vs student. I can see Tito giving Matt credit for the success he’s had in MMA and saying something to the effect of “I’m happy for your success and wish you well but for 15 minutes, I’m going to try to punish you and give you an old fashioned Tito Ortiz beating”.

by StealthBomber on Jul 23, 2010 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

no, if Matt wins, Tito will try to claim credit

and say, “Everything Matt Hamill has become is because of me. I taught him everything he knows and then he turned and used it against me! That’s fine. Whatever!”

He was saying stuff like that about Chuck and Chuck was just his sparring partner. He’ll definitley try to take credit for someone he coached.

by (shonuff) on Jul 25, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

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