UFC Quick Quote: 'Outlaw 2.0' going to 'beat the stupid out of Carlos Condit' on Oct. 16 in London
by Jesse Holland on Jul 20, 2010 9:14 AM EDT
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"It is a great fight and one I am already excited about. Condit is a former world champion who has only lost once in nearly five years, and that was on a split decision to top contender Martin Kampmann. He's a great opponent for me, after losing my UFC welterweight title challenge to Georges St-Pierre in March. I didn't want to drop too far down the pecking order and a win over Condit will make sure I stay right in the title mix. Carlos actually asked for the fight. He went to the UFC and requested me as his next opponent, I guess thinking that beating a world title challenger would look nice on his record. It is very much a case of 'be careful what you wish for' because I've taken it upon myself to do him a favour and beat the stupid out of him. I think I will get him out of there in the third, I think he won't be able to withstand the pace or the punishment late on in the fight. I will refine a game plan, but right now I am predicting a third round KO. I can also promise you'll see a new version of me in the Octagon come October, Outlaw 2.0."
Former UFC welterweight number one contender Dan Hardy returns to the Octagon in front of a hometown crowd when he clashes with former WEC welterweight champion Carlos Condit at the upcoming UFC 120 event on Spike TV from the O2 Arena in London, England. "The Outlaw" tells the Nottingham Post that his recent loss to Georges St. Pierre has given him the blueprint for a successful return to the top of the welterweight mountain. Is Hardy still a relevant contender in the 170-pound division? Or a flash in the pan who's going to get deep-fried by "The Natural Born Killer?"
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Version 2.0? Is he going to add kicks? A sub game? Condit FTW.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
agreed...I like both guys but like Condit more
Carlos has a great chin, has great endurance, is great off his back and is a dynamic stiker…Dan has some of that but not all of it
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
i think the outlaw takes this one
condit was losing his fight against that new kid rory mcdonald, and his 2 fights before that were split decisions. condit used to dominate people in the wec, and hes still winning, just not in the same fashion he used to. i dont know what hardy is talking about thinking he will gas condit, but im going with hardy for the ud.
never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do
Rory McDonald is no slouch and I thought Condit won the Kampman fight....Condit's opponents have been tougher than Hardy's minus GSP
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I agree Mc...
Also what pace is he going to bring that Carlos doesn’t already keep? I have never seen Carlos not go balls to the walls, whether it is the 1st round or the 5th round.
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ya his pace is crazy regardless of where the fight goes...ANS has said that Carlos is a very strange guy but someone that trains and fights like his life depends on it
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
~agreed
nonetheless, i think this is going to be one hell of a fight..
both guys are very scrappy & very tough..
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WEC to UFC
Condit went from 5 rounders to his first UFC fight being 3 rounds because they vacated thoses titles. I think that is the only reason why he lost to Kampman because he was really coming on by the 3rd while Kampman looked to be just holding on. I think if it went the 2 more. Condit would have finished or at the least won decision by winning rounds 4 and 5.
very good point...same scenario in the McDonald fight
I had Carlos losing rounds 1 and 2 but finishing him in the third
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
by McArthur... on Jul 20, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn't think about it that way at all.
Excellent point indeed. Condit all the way!
Bullets dodge Fedor.
but let us not forget
his fight with hardy will only be 3 rounds. it is just laughable to hear hardy say he will keep a pace condit can not keep up with though
never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do
IMO.
Hardy has a shot at ending this fight in any round. Condit takes so many risks. He was lit up by Ellenberger. Hardy can def. put hands on him.
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 20, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly cant see hardy getting near a title shot again ever
His wrestling’s so poor, Fitch, Kos or Shields would just obliterate him. Think he’d really struggle against Kampmann and Paulo Thiago too. Also Alves would destroy him standing up.
Sorry Dan, think you’ve had your one and only chance at the gold and you were lucky to get that.
GSP's wrestling is immense making it look rediculously poor.
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
Good point.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
yep...and held down for alomost the whole fight...
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
~
i actually had davis edging that fight out…..
but either way that was a close fight & i wasn’t going to argue..
point being, hardy had a tough fight with marcus davis.. i think condit can hold his own.
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Davis winning would have been sort of justifiable. He had “octagon control” for 12 minutes, while Hardy murdered him the other 3 minutes. Given the way both fighters approached that fight, I was glad to see Hardy get his hand raised there.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
fair enough!~
the main point was that he had a tough fight with davis…
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by ricky~dooby on Jul 20, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
So you don't think Hardy will address his GG issues when he meets up with Condit? I think he will evolve unless you have some unknown insight.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
i thought he showed
how much he had evolved his gg when he fought gsp. he didnt really get hurt in that fight and gsp makes everyone look like a clown.
never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do
You cant polish a turd OJR
Clearly he’ll have a go but I see no evidence of any real talent on the ground and I certainly cant see his gg ever being remotely good enough in such a wrestler dominated division.
He may well be able to polish it enough to take out Condit, but any of the top guys, forget it.
I think he loses to Condit. It sounds like you think that his training camp is limited and will not cover any aspect of his weak GG.
"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I aint got a clue about his camp OJR
I just dont think it’s a given that someones gg will drastically improve given time, see Cheick Kong for proof lol
Wow OJR you are living in fantasy land or hanging off the end of Dan Hardy’s nut sack one of the two. Dan Hardy thinks that Carlos Condit is giving him respect by asking for this fight. haha. The only reason CC is asking for this fight is because somehow; which no one knows how, but he skipped past the top of the contenders list to get a title shot. Which Carlos knows that fighting Dan Hardy would be like fighting a pud compared to Kos, Fitch, Alves, but yet getting the same results. If Carlos wins this fight then he only has to fight one more of the top contenders rather then two to get a title shot.
PS – Hardy’s training camp is limited; which is evident because the UK is like 50 years behind in their wrestling skills. Sure, they can strike, but how does that help you when your laying on your back counting the lights?
Your first sentence is misguided as evidenced by your incorrect assumptions about me. Also, your insight into CC's mindset seems fictional and without merit. In conclusion, your last sentence is hyperbolic and adds zero to the equation. Fail21.
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-Stephen King
OJR you have to wonder how much he gg he trains...
when he outrights talks about it being for, I can’t remember the exact term he used but it was along the lines of gay, wasn’t it? The whole time going into the GSP fight he really kept the attitude that I just have to hit GSP once. That makes me wonder if he thinks that way still. Hopefully the GSP fight opened his eyes to the importance of the GG, especialy in this division.
Also you really have to wonder how much gg can you learn in less than a year. Condit has been training his gg for years. I mean I can’t see any major improvements being made without bringing in a wrestling wiz… On which note I gotta pee….
I really want to see him and Alves go at it. But with the winner of Alves/Fitch getting the winner of Kos/GSP it may be a while, especially if Alves beats Fitch and gets the belt.
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Condit by sub.
He has a very underrated ground gaem and he will omeinto thin knowing he can take Hardy down at will. 2nd Rd Armbar.
Hmmmmmmm
Would Hardy tap??? GSP had him a couple of times real good and he wouldn’t. I’ll give the guy credit there, you’ll probably have to break a limb to get him to tap.
probably right dog...I think a choke would be a better option
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
GSP's technique was faulty and Condit has no qualms about breaking bones.
And Condit has gotten an armbar finish 5 times (thx Wiki). I knew he had a few, but 5 means it is a preferred technique that he is good at.
dude did you see the GSP fight, they were seriously tight!
I really cant see him tapping to Condit.
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
he will NEVER tap in front of his home crowd
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Hardy v Condit or Hardy tapping?
I’ll take Condit FTW, but if you want me to actually bet on the armbar, I need better odds.
Just Hardy V Condit sounds good to me?
but what by armbar what odds are you looking for?
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
2 days vs 2 weeks? 7 to 1 for a sub call feels about right.
Your choice, I will go out on a limb for the Natural Born Killer.
Remind me when closer. I got a few others our there.
I will take a Hardy TKO if your taking a Condit armbar then!
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
LOL its all in good nature.
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
Exactly i dont care if people say the technique was wrong on them sub attempts by GSP they looked like some of the most painful subs ive seen and he hung in there.
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
Completely agree
I also said this on a thread when this match was first announced. Sure the counter arguement is that GSP couldn’t tap him but as Mac points out a choke is the way to go. If a man can’t breathe he can’t fight. And to address JamPark below no he won’t tap. But he will go to sleep.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Jul 20, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
makes me LOL everytime
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
I showed this to my wife
and to my mother the other day and was laughing my @$$ of and I’ve seen it a million times. They didn’t seem to get it. I got a little better reaction from the Star Wars Kid and the Kid After Dentist. It was a viral internet video clinic, LOL.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Jul 20, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a feeling he will have been heavily training on his wrestling after GSP.
Don’t forget that Hardy is a dedicated student of the game and has travelled the world learning to better his style, even so far as training with Shaolin monks in China – he knows wrestling is his weakness and he has the physical tools to do well at it. He may well be right about a 2.0 version but we’ll have to wait and see…
Sad thing is it’s getting to the point where you have to be a wrestler to compete – the UFC is slowly becoming WWE. Soon there will be no more exciting finishers as all will resort to hugging for 15 mins, the winner being the one on the top doing little damage as opposed to the one on the bottom barely getting hurt…
we definately need a boost of wrestling over here in the UK, its definately lacking!
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
Hardy Needs to Stop Training With Eddie Bravo
Thats his BJJ problem. GSP, Fitch and Koscheck are smothering wrestlers. Rubber guard isnt so effective in MMA as it is in BJJ tourneys. And when you see it effective its by guys that are elite level grapplers. IMO every WW tyring to beat GSP should stop their camps right now and move to the place Wilson Reis trains and start with his BJJ coach learning the X-Guard and the sweeps. Thats what an effective ground game will be vs smothering guys like GSP
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 20, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe not...
If you think about it, many times the best fights are when two guys negate each others wrestling. Right now there is to big of a difference between the wrestling of guys coming out of colleges vs. guy straining traditional mma, bjj, or stand up-but as the gap closes and wrestling becomes more and more popular (and it is well on its way-my sons wrestling team has tripled over the last 4 years and the coach was saying that it is exploding everywhere-I would say in large part do to the new generation of adults/parents that have grown with mma are going to want their kids to be able to protect themselves in the best way possible-wrestling more often than not trumps most stand up self defense). I hope anyway. =)
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If st pierre couldnt finish him
Condit wont. hardy will bea the shit outa him…easily.
Hardy being Hardy
promoting his fight….he knows he can’t beat the top WWs. It’s his way of getting fights/paid.
Condit
Is a tough dude, who works hard. Hardy thinks he’ll wear him down and stop him late, Condit is the King of wearing guy’s down and stopping them late. I like Hardy but i think he gets shown to be a mid level fighter. Condit stops him late, probably by sub or ground n pound. Their is no quit in Carlos, Hardy will realize that come the second, and he’ll be looking for the door.
My Top Ten Favorite Fighters
1. Nick Diaz
2. Fedor
3. Carlos Condit
4. Jake Shields
5. Gilbert Melendez
6. Gegard Mousasi
7. Anderson Silva
8. Nate Diaz
9. Kenny Florian
10. Melvin Manhoef
by MasterWhiteTiger on Jul 20, 2010 10:38 AM EDT reply actions
Thanks
It’s just my favs, i’m not calling all of them the best hahaha.
My Top Ten Favorite Fighters
1. Nick Diaz
2. Fedor
3. Carlos Condit
4. Jake Shields
5. Gilbert Melendez
6. Gegard Mousasi
7. Anderson Silva
8. Nate Diaz
9. Kenny Florian
10. Melvin Manhoef
by MasterWhiteTiger on Jul 20, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Danny believes his own hype
“Carlos actually asked for the fight. He went to the UFC and requested me as his next opponent, I guess thinking that beating a world title challenger would look nice on his record.”
No Daniel-san, he sees you as a very beatable, overrated name.by H.I. McDunnough on Jul 20, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions
condit is tough, but he's going to look small and weak against hardy.
Hardy does not have the prettiest style, but it’s effective. I’ve picked him to lose and get finished in every single fight in UFC, based on the “many weaknesses” in his game and he’s proven me wrong every time (with the exception of GSP.) I’m a believer now.
who predicts a round 3 ko?
is he that unconfident in his skills that he knows he doesnt have a chance of ko’ing condit in the first two?
i dont give out free signatures
I was kind of thinking the same thing....
Condit gets better as the rounds get deeper. If he does not do it in round 1 or 2 then he will not get it in rd. 3. imo anyway….
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Condit wins by pure heart and will power
The guy just doesn’t back down
hardy takes this
Stand up is far more crisp. And i dont think condit will sub him if gsp couldnt
Leg kicks are the most underrated weapon in MMA
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