Report: Jake Shields could face Martin Kampmann in UFC welterweight debut
by Jesse Holland on Jul 17, 2010 10:34 AM EDT
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With Jake Shields UFC debut practically a foregone conclusion, the wheels are in motion to find him a suitable opponent for his return to the 170-pound division.
Not as easy as it sounds.
A quick run through the SB Nation top ten rankings will yield plenty of suitors; however, everyone with a spot high enough on the totem pole to welcome the former Strikeforce and Elite XC champion has already secured a date to the big dance.
That leaves Martin Kampmann and Paulo Thiago -- and the Dane already disposed of the crafty Brazilian at UFC 115 just last month, effectively securing his position as the last man standing.
And a win over Shields would likely ease some of the pain he felt when his desired opponent, Dan "The Outlaw" Hardy, was paired up with Carlos Condit for the upcoming UFC 120 event across the pond.
MMA Fighting is reporting that "sources close to the situation" have pegged "The Hitman" as Shields first opponent and that UFC 121 in Anaheim is "a likely possibility."
The Cesar Gracie product has remained undefeated over five years across the span of 14 fights. Some of his most recent victims include Dan Henderson, Robbie Lawler and Jason Miller.
Kampmann has done some damage himself, welcoming another high profile welterweight to the Octagon when former WEC stud Carlos Condit debuted at UFC Fight Night 19 back in April 2009.
In addition to the win over "Natural Born Killer," Kampmann is 13-2 since 2004 and like Shields, has also done time as a middleweight.
Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann at UFC 121 -- how does that sound, Maniacs?
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wake me up when the guy who beat the tar out of DAN HENDERSON (the only man to hold 2 titles in two different weight classes at the same time) fights somebody like FITCH, KOS , ALVES …. hell even KARO or SEMTEX will do ……KAMPMAN WTF
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how about the last ever wec ww champion against the last strikeforce ww champion ??
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by BondTheLaySilva on Jul 17, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Wait...are you suggesting Karo is better than Kampmann? And I would take Kampmann in a rematch over Semtex. He just fought stupid, but is clearly the overall better fighter. This is a great matchup with 2 of the top WW's.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
I agree with the Diceman. Fitch, Kos, and Alves all have upcoming fights, so why would Shields fight them? And what’s with everyone hugging Karo’s nuts? The guy isn’t in the top 20 of the 170 lbs division. Karo….ha, get real, man.
by Il Gladiatore on Jul 17, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I called it......
somewhat i guess, I said they would give him someone without any takedown defense like Carlos Condit so they give him Kampman who is kind of like a carlos condit except his guard isn’t as good as Carlos’. He can work a good top game but on the bottom, shield works him over. Standing it’s not even worth talking.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 17, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
well really Jake deserved the title shot so it would be very unfair of the UFC to make him fight the likes of fitch, kos, alves before he got his shot. This is a nice tuneup fight for Jake to stay active against a very tricky guy on the ground and a technical striker.
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i think a win here over kampman is a 99.999% guarantee title shot
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 17, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
What has jake done at 170 to deserve a title shot?
Paul Daley, Nick Thomspson and Mike Pyle. Resume wise you can easily justify a MW title shot – in fact he is more deserving that most of the contenders right now – Chael, Vitor, Marqy, wand, leben, etc…but at 170 not a single top 10 win unless you go way back to Akira Kikuchi. Even then that was 167 and old shooto.
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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 17, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
because GSP/Shields is the match-up Dana (and fans) want.
the UFC did a number one contender’s match at a catch weight with fighters at a different weight class, so being a monster at MW and getting a title shot at WW after win isnt so odd.
What sequal would you rather see GSP with? GSP/Shields if jake beats kampman makes absolute sense.
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 17, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree , Kampmann will take this one.
His ground game is very underrated and his stand up is excellent. Kampmann will be able to keep this standing and punish Shields on the feet all night. I could even see Kampmann taking Shields down and winning there also.
Kampmann by tko or UD.
But when has he ever displayed tdd??
He WILL be taken down. The question is, Will he allow Jake to lay on him for three rounds or we he be able to get back to his feet and make Shields pay for it
I like Kampmann
and think he’s got a real shot at the upset. However I see this being a replay of the Mayhem Miller fight. Kampmann has never been put in with any of the good wrasslers at 170. Fitch or Kos would be able to execute the same wrestle-fest gameplan that shields will bring.
I know it's not a reliable source
but wikipedia has his next fight listed as Diego Sanchez. Was this previously announced and changed? Either one would be a good first fight in the UFC. Even coming off the loss, I would think Diego would be tougher because of his proven wrestler.
I like it.
But why till October?
Brock Lesnar is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 Brock Lesnar
2 BJ Penn
3 John Fitch
4 Matt Hughes
5 Matt Serra
Cuz 117, 118 are stacked…119/120 look to be relatively set. So that leaves 121, which needs a co-main event.
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Brock Lesnar is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 Brock Lesnar
2 BJ Penn
3 John Fitch
4 Matt Hughes
5 Matt Serra
Oh shit, first loss for Jake, Ive got Kampmann by UD!
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im not a fan of jake but ill be pulling for him to win this we need some new fighters to fight Gsp
BJ is going to be back in Cali training and Marv is back! Bad news for Frankie. I will be betting the house.
and i think he stands a better shot vs george
BJ is going to be back in Cali training and Marv is back! Bad news for Frankie. I will be betting the house.
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jake will win this fight for sure…….. kamp cant stop jake from controlling this fight.. this fight will go where shields wants it…
jake via tko round 3.
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by ricky~dooby on Jul 17, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Kampman is a tough dude,
I don’t think Jake can stop him, but I still like Jake to win it by UD.
Brock Lesnar is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 Brock Lesnar
2 BJ Penn
3 John Fitch
4 Matt Hughes
5 Matt Serra
Yeah
I am by no means a Shields fan but I think he’ll be able to take down Kampmann at will and keep him there for 3 rounds. If Hendo who’s a proven wrestler got handled on the ground by Jake what chance to The Hitman have?
by Captain Ernesto on Jul 17, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
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jake will finish this fight for sure!~
formerly stinky~fingers
by ricky~dooby on Jul 17, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
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kamps a tough dude, no doubt. but jake is dominant a ww..
formerly stinky~fingers
by ricky~dooby on Jul 17, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Kampmann has only been stopped by Marquardt and Daley,
Jake doesn’t have that kind of power.
Brock Lesnar is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 Brock Lesnar
2 BJ Penn
3 John Fitch
4 Matt Hughes
5 Matt Serra
he hits worse than a girl.
Martin has a good chance he’s good on the ground too and better standing.
Come at me bro!
His ground game did look impressive against Thiago.
Brock Lesnar is the #1 P4P fighter in the world. My top 5 P4P list is.
1 Brock Lesnar
2 BJ Penn
3 John Fitch
4 Matt Hughes
5 Matt Serra
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woah!~ you are so wrong, roberto….. jake is a very powerful GnP artist, trust me……
formerly stinky~fingers
by ricky~dooby on Jul 17, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
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jake hasn’t been to a decison at WW for the last 5 years[almost]… he has finished all opponents.. and he will finish kamp as well…
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by ricky~dooby on Jul 17, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
people keep underestimating his gnp
but what they forget is that in strikefarce they don’t allow elbows but in the UFC they do. Elbows can make all the difference.
Train hard to fight easy.
by the chubbster on Jul 17, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
no
no he’s not.
He has terrible GnP power and standing power.
He has a smothering top game and good BJJ but no one has every accused him of having any power.
Shogun lost a close decision! Everyone get crazy!
agreed
jake via UD
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 17, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Ricky's right guys... Sheilds has some Powerfull GNP!!
Did you see those bombs he was landing on hendo’s head?
I bet with that kind of power he could Tko guys with iron chins like jonathan goulet! It might take him a few hundred punches but he could get the job done!
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by Red Eye Jedi on Jul 17, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
~ i said WW, hendo's a MW/LHW....... ass-hatt..
you guys must be forgetting all jakes fights before he jumped to MW…….. i laugh at this all,,,,,
formerly stinky~fingers
ass hat lmao that is kinda funny
but jakes GNP is weak
BJ is going to be back in Cali training and Marv is back! Bad news for Frankie. I will be betting the house.
Hmmmm so when sheilds puts on weight he has less power?
That doesn’t seem to make sense… Most of the time its opposite, they lose power cutting down in weight..
Bottom line he doesn’t have big power, if he did he would have multiple TKO stoppages on his record.
3 (T)KOs ( 12 %)
10 Submissions ( 40 %)
12 Decisions ( 48 %)
Hmmm, where are all the tko stoppages?
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by Red Eye Jedi on Jul 18, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
he took down a hendo past his prime...conveniently tossed in when mentioning future SF fights against hendo, not mentioned when discussing shields because he signed a contract?
shields should have to win 3 fights imo…yeah he stands a chance against GSP because he will go to decision…
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
im on the opposite side of this one pennfan, i think martin is a tougher fight for gsp, he fights well off his back, and has great striking, what has shields ever shown except great top game? a clock saving win over mayhem miller? or standup where a bully damn near knocked his ass out?
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by randy murders on Jul 17, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Martin too,
and if he can hang with Shield’s wrestling, I think it would be an exciting fight with GSP. But, I don’t think he can. Who is the best wrestler Kampmann has faced? Volkmann? And we know Jake will be happy to stink the place out to get the win. Like when he fought on CBS and layed on Miller for 25 minutes.
Ofcourse it'Kampmann
nobody else is available.. Good test for both of em’..
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NOT REALLY
AND HE AINT FIGHTING TIL OCT , SO I SURE THEY COULD HAVE FOUND SOMEBODY ELSE
by BondTheLaySilva on Jul 17, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Not without changing other already scheduled fights...
Though it depends on who else people would have wanted to see Shields debut against.
Paulo Thiago, Diego Sanchez and Mike Swick are coming off losses. Nate Diaz is still establishing himself at WW and likely wouldn’t fight Jake anyway.
Condit vs. Hardy also in Oct on the same card…Fitch vs. Alves in Aug…Serra vs. Lytle in Sep…not sure who else they could have gotten really.
If jake wins duz he got a title shot?
I think he deserves it. He been dominating top comp & I see him doing the same against kampamn.
by d*locc on Jul 17, 2010 11:28 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Im not sure i thought winner of Alves vs Fitch was going to get the title shot
BJ is going to be back in Cali training and Marv is back! Bad news for Frankie. I will be betting the house.
they should of had jake fight the winner of this fight for the title shot
BJ is going to be back in Cali training and Marv is back! Bad news for Frankie. I will be betting the house.
Yeah, thats what I thought they were going to do too
But I guess the UFC and Shields want to have him fight sooner rather than later.
That's right forgot about tht 1.
I’d rather see Jake vs. Gsp tho. I’m a big fan of alves but I think him & fitch will get dominated the same way again. At least Jake kinda brings something new 2 the table.
by d*locc on Jul 17, 2010 12:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't believe the UFC has said anything about it
I think it was more Fitch or Alves saying in an interview somewhere that they think the winner of this fight should get another title shot.
Understandable for Fitch
But not Alves. He hasn’t fought since the GSP loss and needs a few wins before u gets another shot. At least 2 clear cut W’s
I would say if Fitch wins decisively he should get GSP. He’d be 4 in a row I believe and despite the decision monster he is, a W is a W and the UFC can’t keep him from another 8 fight streak before they gave him a shot.
But if Alves wins, or Fitch by a lackluster performance then they should fight Jake at 121. Beginning of August to October is a good 8/9 weeks and, barring injury, either of these guys could make the turnaround
by Wingblade on Jul 17, 2010 3:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is true
BJ is going to be back in Cali training and Marv is back! Bad news for Frankie. I will be betting the house.
Shields!!!!
Jake wins in a tough fight, i just don’t believe Marty can stop his take downs, and his ability to pass is awesome. He’ll get mount and rain down elbows and punches till it’s stopped. I like shields alot, i think he’s a great guy and a great fighter.
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by MasterWhiteTiger on Jul 17, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions
Oh come on
Me and K-Dog were joking about how this fight would happen on the show straight after 120 just to take the piss and guess what, it’s at 121. Damn it I’ve given up on seeing my favourites in the UK, balls to that terrible card I’m saving my money for something actually worth going to.
Anyway Shields by UD because Kampmann won’t stop his takedowns and no body has better top control than Jake (except possibly GSP). He’ll pass Martins guard numerous times but I don’t see him catching him in a choke or finishing with ground and pound. Good fight to test where Jake fits in the UFC, I’m not happy that I’m not seeing it live though.
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by David W-S on Jul 17, 2010 1:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
er no
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 17, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
kampann all the way only thing he needs to do is
Kampann will have to bring out his kickboxing and work at his tdd than he will pick shields a part on the feet kinda like the lauzon vs stout fight
Leg kicks are the most underrated weapon in MMA
by robinhorobson on Jul 17, 2010 5:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
if kampman can keep it on his feet for a few mins, its over. Shields will lay n pray...comes down to whether or not kampman will get a shot in...
I think hes the most overrated fighter around(shields)
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
haha people will probably flip when i say this, but personally I think the mostoverrated fighter is Shinya Aoki.
i 200% agree, hes right up there with how they had/have fedor ranked..
fighting guys outside the top10 at your weight,and guys coming up in weight doesn’t make you the best guy even if you win 100 fights in a row, you still gotta fight your weights top guys 100/100 fights
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by randy murders on Jul 17, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
When was the last time..
You found someone with skinny legs that didn’t wrestle that has great TTD? Honestly I don’t think there is a fighter like that. Jake is a GREAT grappler, with legit bjj. Took third in a abu dhabi championships. Sorry but if you don’t see how this is kryptonite for Kampann you are in lala land smoking the good stuff. Text book TD’s, great hips, smothering base, and cardio for days how does Shields lose this? Divine intervention that’s the only way.
by Pain on Jul 17, 2010 11:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed. I think Kampmann could hurt him standing but what chance does he really have to impose that if hes laying on his back for most of the fight? I hate when people say fighters are past their prime just cuz they arent in the UFC. Hendo was supposed to beat Shields and he didnt he got his ass handed to him. Shields is a good addition to the WW div and i cant wait to see how he does.
Im pretty sure he will do much better than most think he will Duck..
I for one love watching a top BJJ player fight. There ground game is amazing and if you roll you can see all the little things they do that is exceptional. To me its just as fun watching AS strike, exceptional.
I’ll take my boy Shields by guillotine choke but Kampmann’s no joke. Jake has to respect his power and take the fight to the ground similar to what he did against Hendo but he’ll get the submission this time
by 49erEmpire on Jul 18, 2010 5:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
"Report: Jake Shields could face Martin Kampmann in UFC welterweight debut "
And he COULD face Tank Abbot. I like how they print this with none to little evidence. One sight said it might be Kampmen then every sight now has possible opponent Martin…
Are these sites usings some suggestive psychology?
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