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'Steel' camp: Cung Le owes us a third fight

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"I just sent a text message to Scott Coker today cause I keep hearing about this tournament. I sent him a text message today and I said we want in that tournament. There will be a third Cung Le fight. Cung owes it to us. We didn’t have to take this last fight. There was nothing for Scott to gain, nothing. It was only a (losing situation). The fans will want to see it again because for one thing, neither fight was boring."

Mike Roberts, manager for Strikeforce middleweight Scott Smith, expects "Hands of Steel" to appear in both the rumored 185-pound tournament in October as well as a third fight with rival Cung Le. While one loss apiece normally warrants a third dance, Smith was getting handled in their first encounter before pulling off his patented miracle comeback. Do two lopsided fights with one hail mary warrant a deciding bout? Or did Le do enough in the second fight to negate a third?

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Man give me a freaking break!

Le needs 2 fight Melvin manhoef or lawler this is horse shit!

by d*locc on Jul 15, 2010 12:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

MM just lost - AGAIN.. but thats a great idea for a fight.

If Coker has the balls to put this together again – I swear to god – I will fly down to SJ and hang the bankruptcy sign in all the office windows for him right now.

THIS IS HORSE SHIT!

"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."

Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15

by Bigger Zino on Jul 15, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanna see Scotty vs Manhoef

That would be a fight…….kinda

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 15, 2010 12:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Scott should have never given Cung a rematch

He got duped into doing the rematch under the premise that it he lost there would be a third fight. Scott should have gotten it in writing because Coker and Le aren’t going to put that fight together. And if he keeps complaining about it Coker will put him on the bench for an extended period.

by SHORT_BUS on Jul 15, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa, whoa!!! hold on there

That would be saying that the promotion doesn’t let fighters do whatever they feel like. Not so sure that kind of thinking goes over too well in Strikeforce.

Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 15, 2010 1:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

zZzZ

Wake me up when he starts kicking Scott

Shogun lost a close decision! Everyone get crazy!

by ShaiZ on Jul 15, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

can't decide whether to file this under "who cares" or "what the hell are they thinking?"

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Jul 15, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Both

Cung le would probably take it though, last thing he needs in his illustrius career is a ‘challenge’.

If I'm free it's cos I'm always running - Jimi Hendrix

by Jimi_kiss the sky on Jul 15, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

who cares is better...

It’s pretty clear what they are thinking. Scott is an over-the-hill journeyman and Cung wants nothing to do with the top brass, even in SF.

Bullets dodge Fedor.

by freenow82 on Jul 15, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed mac

weird because last I heard Smith wanted no part of a 3rd fight

by kevjack115 on Jul 15, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought the tournament was off

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Jul 15, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

it is off.. unless their doing a #1 contender thing.. but why?

"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."

Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15

by Bigger Zino on Jul 15, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it's just postponed till later this year.

Kennedy and Jacare are fighting for the title, and then there will be a 4-man tourney for next contender

Bullets dodge Fedor.

by freenow82 on Jul 15, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

alrighty then....

"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."

Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15

by Bigger Zino on Jul 15, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 15, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

the real question is

will strikeforce make it far enough to crown a champ, then have a tourney for the #1 contender, then have the #1 contender face off with the champ?

never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do

by child on Jul 15, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

other sights are reporting an 8 man tourny is back on for later this year in cali...

I like the feeling of hunting down what I feed my family. If there’s a beast out there capable of hunting down Brock Lesnar, he would do it and make me the trophy on his den wall. But the laws of nature dictate that I’m going to be the one who goes into the wild and comes home with the evening’s bounty. - The #1 ranked HW in the world...

by DrewMoney$$$ on Jul 15, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still sucks

That would be like putting Tito and Shamrock in the ring for the third time together……..wait a minute.

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by U3O8man on Jul 15, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd rather

See BJ vs Matt Hughes III

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by U3O8man on Jul 15, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

who wouldn't

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Jul 15, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by U3O8man on Jul 15, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ

is going to win the next one. I will sig bet any of you bastards.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

dammit

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am showing restraint here

there are too many BJ nuthuggers and I don’t want my name in that hat, even though he is my favorite fighter.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

When

BJ loses, what excuse will he be picking from the Rolodex this time?

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by U3O8man on Jul 15, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure

maybe he ends up breaking a toe from carrying those heavy ass rocks underwater. The good thing about this, he isn’t going to lose.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

looks liek you won';t have to worry about it...

Werdum is hurt, paving the way for Fedor/Reem which Reem will win in punishing fashion thereby making the last emporer’s walk into the sunset easy!!

by Ulf Murphy on Jul 15, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously

he beats reem and he retires. I think this is the most likely scenario.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm...I doubt it'll happen

I don’t think SF will give it to Fedor (even though I do think he deserved it a long time ago) after the loss because of all the shit they got for the Rogers shot after a loss.

second, I don’t think M1 is willing to risk another Fedor loss right now and they’ll avoid Reem with all they have.

Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.

by Onemansyn on Jul 15, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

M1 Gangsters, sorry Global will want nooooooooo part of Overeem.

by attakdog on Jul 15, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

if Werdum is shelved

and Fedor skips an opportunity to fight Reem….The haters will have some serious ammo. For his legacy’s sake, I hope he fights Reem. There isn’t anyone else to fight either.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

BigFoot...

If Werdum is shelved, Overeem will just fight in Japan in the meantime and duck the US again until the return. Then he will fight Werdum. There is no way Overeem will take a fight with Fedor, since obviously he knows that defending against Werdum will be much easier.

Bullets dodge Fedor.

by freenow82 on Jul 15, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that just sucks

doesn’t fedor have to fight in Russia if outside of SF? I forgot about Bigfoot though. .

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh. That fight does not move me. How about you guys?

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 15, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

I want Reem and Fedor. I will continue to bicker until I get to see it.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope not interested either.

That being said, I’d still buy it, if it was a PPV regardless of the rest of the card. But that’s just cause I’d pay to see any Fedor fight.

Bullets dodge Fedor.

by freenow82 on Jul 15, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya thats not a fight i want to see either

never have any regrets, because at the time, thats all you wanted to do

by child on Jul 15, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great minds, gents. Free is excused as he must support his countryman in any way possible.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 15, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard that coker won't do reem/fedor

unless fedor signs a champions clause so he can’t win and bolt/retire

by kevjack115 on Jul 15, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense.

Make it a non-title fight then!

Bullets dodge Fedor.

by freenow82 on Jul 15, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like that fight.

Big Foot looks SHARP in his last fight. His standup just gets crisper and more technical.

by MMACrossfire on Jul 16, 2010 5:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

he is my favorite fighter

That EQUALS nuthugger when talking about BJ.

by Ulf Murphy on Jul 15, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

in 99% of cases, yes this is correct

But, I am a little more reasonable than most, and people like Pretty Boy make me want to turn into a closet Penn fan.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

getting beat by GSP humbles a person

twice over.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel you Deuce

I fucking LOVE BJ (no homo) but make a conscious effort to only talk about him when he’s about to fight. The people who blindly defend him have made it hard to just talk about the dude.

Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.

by Onemansyn on Jul 15, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel the same way

and that is all I will say about BJ on the boards. He gets plenty of PR on here without me chiming in. On fight night though, watch out.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually a lot of the perceived BJ Nuthuggers are just GSP haters

I don’t care about BJ either way. I do like him as a fighter but he aint one of my favorites.

But since there is all that history with GSP, who is my most hated fighter after Chael Sonnen, I might sometimes come across as a BJ nuthugger when those arguments happen, because I will side with whoever is against GSP usually.

Bullets dodge Fedor.

by freenow82 on Jul 15, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess that is what makes me different

I appreciate GSP. He is a great, great fighter. But, I will cheer for BJ first. BJ has proven…wait, dammit, no. I am not starting this.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

there are no gsp haters.

it just seems like it when most people are all over GSp’s nutsack.

Come at me bro!

by RoBerto. on Jul 15, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like both and I have to say that most fans on behalf of BJ and GSP tend to be extreme.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 15, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huge GSP fan here........

Have been since the TKO days. Only fighters I truly blindly hate are Hughes and Sanchez. Fuck the both of them…………

O_o

by Dragon101 on Jul 15, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOOO!

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or

Tito vs Chuck for the third time…hey, they were planning that too!

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by U3O8man on Jul 15, 2010 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

they should make le a gatekeeper

le is getting old now but i bet strikeofrce is still going to push the oldies and leave the young fighters behind. this is like a pro wrestling thing. wwf is like the ufc. wcw is like pride and gets bought by the wwf(ufc). now here comes tna(strikeforce) pushing the old washed up guys and have ppl like sting(fedor) hu refuse to cum to the wwf(ufc). sucha a similar story we have here

by f1 on Jul 15, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't see why people think this is so crazy

You’re faulting Scott and his camp for wanting a rematch? that’s not crazy. Crazy would be if SF makes it happen. which they probably will. I agree LE vs Manhoelf would be a great fight.

Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.

by Onemansyn on Jul 15, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

"Theres only two things you need to know about me: I spin more rhymes than a lazy susan, and im innocent until my guilt is proven"

by dangerdunphy on Jul 15, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

Don’t know why people suddenly thinks Hendo or Mousasi are bad just because they got humped for 25minutes… they are both easily top 10 in their divisions.

by Lester The Pimp on Jul 15, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

well it doesn't help that he was known for having the best wrestling in mma

Hendo was the last person I expected to get blanketed, and by Jake Shields of all people. That fight opened my eyes. Hendo’s best days are behind him.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats exactly it.

Mousasi has his career in front of him, he is still very young. Hendersons career is ending, so I cannot really get excited for him fighting anymore.

Bullets dodge Fedor.

by freenow82 on Jul 15, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hendo looked like utter shit

his back must have have been shot to shit, coz he was shuffling round the cage like The Hunchback of Notre damme’s ugly more deformed brother.

by attakdog on Jul 15, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

by fighting

do you mean chasing the a dude around the ring with his right fist cocked for 3 rounds?

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

a dude

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has de-evolved

It is sad.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

and thats sad too

Rampage is a little easier to swallow since he went crazy first, or he always was…

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

for sure

I used to think he was funny. Not fooled anymore.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I met the guy

He aint funny, he’s a prick!

by attakdog on Jul 15, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is really starting to shine through

Seems like the type of guy that would grab your girls ass.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would then proceed to empty bullets into his chest because I ain't fighting Page hand to hand!

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 15, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would lol

I’ve wrestled bigger men than him to the ground before now

by attakdog on Jul 15, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh Yeah

Big time! Wish I could find the footageof me on the Internet grappling, man I was something back in the day lol

by attakdog on Jul 15, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol yeah

There is factually footage of me on there somewhere wrestling a 300lb man to the ground in a pub beer garden. Text book single leg, didn’t he go down with a thud, he wasn’t much of a wrestler though.

by attakdog on Jul 15, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are lucky he did not land on you. You would have suffocated.

"Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jul 15, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol, too true, he was literally double my weight!

God knows what we were thinking it was solid concrete. he made hell of a thwack when he went down, couldn’t have made a louder noise if Godzilla fell over.

by attakdog on Jul 15, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

McIIlroy is rippin the shit outta St Andrews!!!! Nice work kiddo!!!!

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Jul 15, 2010 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

-6, 3 back...doubt it'll last though after he "celebrates" tonight...LOL...Tiger's -6 too but Rory is ON FIRE!!!!!!

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Jul 15, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always watch out for Daley

Not only is he a great character but he’s the spitting image of a “woman” who drinks in my local lol

by attakdog on Jul 15, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe he'll hang on...with the changes they've made the course suits both Daley and Tiger...as long as your past 280+ and the sand, going left or right doesn't really matter

Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.

So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.

by McArthur... on Jul 15, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

-6, 3 back…doubt it’ll last though after he “celebrates” tonight…LOL.

aint that the truth.

"I heard a loud crackle sound. He did not tap so I thought 'Ok, this match just became a death-fight' and I was going to destroy his leg."

Shinya Aoki on his fight with Kawajiri at Dream 15

by Bigger Zino on Jul 15, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

with these new groove changes

spraying the ball is going to become a problem again. Not necessarily on this course, but it is going to start having an effect.

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tiger plays golf???

Thought he was just famous for being a serial shagger, who knew?

by attakdog on Jul 15, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

what is funny about this golf talk is that there are more posts here on a mma site

then on the golf blog.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Glory favors the bold. Chance favors the prepared mind. Luck, well i have that too. University of Utah goes to the Pac-12 conference in 2011. I expect them to compete immediately for the conference CG. I still will always follow the Mountain West Conference. Brock Lesnar will defeat Cain Velasquez and face the winner of Junior Dos Santos vs Roy Nelson where he will defeat JDS and stake his claim as pound for pound champion. Womens MMA, the next big thing in sports. 50 days and counting to the first game of college football. UTAH vs Pitt. September 2nd 2010.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Jul 15, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."

by Deuce02 on Jul 15, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats all this thread needed

who doesnt love some good women’s jordans

i dont give out free signatures

by nugnuts on Jul 15, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I watch a lot of SF

Are you serious? What is it you do? Replay events over and over?

Please name 8 other who would be in your great 8-man Strikeforce tournament!

Bullets dodge Fedor.

by freenow82 on Jul 15, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol now now free be nice to the new kids!

Psalm 144:1 Thank the LORD, my rock, who trained my hands to fight and my fingers to do battle,

by the chubbster on Jul 15, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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