Shinya Aoki vs Tatsuya Kawajiri video from DREAM 15 on July 10

Not fight I was expecting.

Somewhere in Philly, Eddie Alvarez is shaking his head, and completely understands how kawajiri feels right now.

by havomaster on Jul 10, 2010 1:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

respect to Kawajiri for gutting it out as long as he did.

If this was a five minute round. I think he could have made it. But it’s kinda his fault for coming in aggressive.

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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 10, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, gutsy effort from kawajiri.

That foot was twisted and torqued for so long. It made me cringe a little bit watching it. He had a very bad gameplan coming in though. I expected him to use the blueprint Melendez laid out to beat aoki. Maybe all the build-up got to kawajiri and he just wanted to prove a point.

by havomaster on Jul 10, 2010 2:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

no matter how many medium level fighters he destorys in japan, we all saw how he stacks up against a typical high level American MMA fighter, i believe hes barley top ten but thats not bad he wud make a great trainning partner but not the best lightweight fighter..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Jul 10, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Until he fights in the UFC against the other best LWs, we won't ever know.

I mean he beats Kawajiri, Kawajiri has beaten Melendez twice (one was a robbery) and Melendez beats him. Same loop with Alvarez. It’s about how guys match up. We can’t also automatically try to say all wrestlers or good TD defense can beat Aoki….for example i don’t think maynard can beat him yet Frankie smashes him all day IMO.

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by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 10, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions

if aoki had a chin everyone would be in deep trouble.

Japan is actually more dangerous for him to fight althought his competition is running thin now. Grounded knees and heel stomps leave him wide open and he doesn’t like to eat them (who would).

Im wondering what went down with the Cesar gracie camp when he spent time there. Nick diaz armbars Mach easily and Aoki handles a good wrestler in the Crusher.

That experience already looks to be paying off. Aoki can dismantle anybody in the LW ranks. But like NNR says match ups are key. Gray I think gets tricked early while Frankie Edgar peppers him into tomatoe paste. And Aoki is my fav LW… it’s just easy to see.

Fedor lost to Werdum.... OHHH SNAP!

by Bigger Zino on Jul 10, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions

I looked at their records and only found them fighting once, but i could of missed it. I haven’t seen the Kawajiri/Melendez fight but Aoki was dominated by Melendez and I can’t see Melendez getting owned like that by Kawajiri, but this is MMA. He did win so he did something right, Kawajiri could have been robbed like you said though,

by joey21 on Jul 10, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions

you're right theyve only fought once.

Don’t know where i got that shit i’ve been up for too long;P

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Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 10, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions

your thinking of his pair of fights with Ishida.

I knew it wasn’t Kawajiri but I had to look it up for myself. I remember it all know though. It was Ishida… Gil was completey pissed off in the first fight because Ishi took him down repeatedly and just pinned him to win a decision. He said something like " I didn’t come to Japan to have a wrestling match, but it’s my fault and im going to get this one back"

he did. TKO style. In the rematch in SF.

Fedor lost to Werdum.... OHHH SNAP!

by Bigger Zino on Jul 10, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions

one bad loss and people think aoki is shit. funny.

by mfother on Jul 10, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions

thats how it always goes

same thing with fedor, carwin etc etc etc

by Lester The Pimp on Jul 10, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Agreed

Fighting in the u.s., in a cage,And against Melendez. Not to mention being hyped up as representing ALL of Japanese MMA!! That was a ton of pressure for aoki.

by havomaster on Jul 10, 2010 1:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

the crabwalking was gold

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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jul 10, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Haha

We definitely need more crabwalking in the u.s. MMA scene for sure!! Maybe Randy could train with aoki to prepare for toney?? Just a thought :)

by havomaster on Jul 10, 2010 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

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by eastcoastatlas on Jul 10, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions

god i would of loved to see him get kicked in the face there

BJ is going to be back in Cali training and Marv is back! Bad news for Frankie. I will be betting the house.

by BJPennfan on Jul 10, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I have always thought he was shit

I disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it

by PHISH NATION on Jul 10, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Guess it's not the super tight pants after all.

by daftshadow on Jul 10, 2010 1:41 PM EDT reply actions

Maybe we've seen the last of the magic pants?

by havomaster on Jul 10, 2010 2:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Great when fighting Japan fighters

mid-level when fighting the top U.S guys….

by Robert(1) on Jul 10, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions

He beat Alvarez

Which is damn impressive.

Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.

by Johnny WF on Jul 10, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Anyone else think he eschewed the sexypants to prove he could win without them?

Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.

by Johnny WF on Jul 10, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions

yea probably..

but he wud still get out-struck by a punching bag..

For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26

by guyverbob on Jul 10, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Watch Aoki vs. Ribeiro

He won that fight on the feet. He’s certainly not great but he’s improving.

by Gallow Glass on Jul 11, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions

i wnna see aoki/melendez II in japan

by dia mette on Jul 10, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions

How taste my feet LOL

Damn thats a classic line.

Didnt see Kawajiri losing after the Gilbert fight but then again different rules make for different gameplans amazing how Kawajiri stook in there. As for people saying they are mid level…get off Dana whites balls already Kawajiri would absolutely destroy Maynard or Frankie or anyone in the UFC including BJ.

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by Khaos_Warrior on Jul 10, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions

Kawajiri's not that good

He made a very stupid mistake and effectively lost the fight in the first exchange. The Japanese based LWs are all overhyped in my opinion, guys like Aoki and Kawajiri are very talented but they’re not top 5 and I doubt that either of them would beat BJ, or Gray, Kenny and Frankie for that matter nevermind destroy any of them. He’s good but not that good and looked very bad against Aoki last night.

Gil will expose Aoki once again in Dream and I’d pick him over Eddie as well, he looks better every fight and is constantly taking up the biggest fights possible outside of the UFC. Once he cleans out the Dream-SF-Bellator contenders I want to see him in the UFC, along with Jake and Nick. That way we can see the top UFC guys tested by the top guy outside of the UFC.

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by David W-S on Jul 10, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Kawajiri nearly knocked out Alvarez

And gave Melendez a run for his money. He’s VERY good.

Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.

by Johnny WF on Jul 10, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

He beat melendez,

But i don’t think he can beat BJ. He can probly do well in the UFC definitely more like to beat more guys there than Aoki IMO. But i said about aoki up, we won’t know until he comes stateside.

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Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.

by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jul 10, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions

ehh i think kawajiri is ok tho,those fights with gomi were pretty crazy

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything" -Malcolm X

by Mr.MMA on Jul 10, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions

How do you even mention Maynard in the same sentence as Kawajiri or aoki??

Seriously wow….Lay n hump more which wouldnt work on Kawajiri worth shit Nate diaz smashed Maynards face up wtf do you think ‘Crusher’ would do to his ass???(give u a hint 1st round KO) As for Gilbert hes not exposing anything hes not part of the UFC lol how can he expose the division that he is a part of?

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by Khaos_Warrior on Jul 11, 2010 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions

if the asian lw fight in the us they should cut to fw if they wanna have a chance

All u.s mma wrestlers have an strength advantage over the asians, because the asians dont how to cut weight

Leg kicks are the most underrated weapon in MMA

by robinhorobson on Jul 11, 2010 10:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

damn, Aoki is a badass. would love to see a rematch with Aoki and Gil in Japan.

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by ekc on Jul 10, 2010 3:59 PM EDT reply actions