UFC 117: Junior dos Santos vs Roy Nelson official for Aug. 7 in Oakland
by Jesse Holland on Jun 9, 2010 12:19 PM EDT
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The list of UFC heavyweight title contenders is about to get just a little bit shorter.
The world's largest fight promotion today officially announced the top contender match-up in the form of Junior dos Santos vs. Roy Nelson for UFC 117, which is set to go down on August 7 from the Oracle Arena in Oakland, California.
"Cigano" cemented his place among the heavyweight big guns after a string of impressive performances against the likes of former Pride FC star Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic at UFC 103, Gilbert Yvel at UFC 108, and most recently against Gabriel Gonzaga at UFC on Versus 1.
The hard-hitting Brazilian is likely right on the cusp of his first opportunity to fight for a world title. A win over Nelson at UFC 117, making it his sixth straight victory inside the Octagon, would almost assuredly put him over the hump.
"Big Country" endeared himself to casual MMA fans (not really) by pounding out Kimbo Slice during The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 10 reality show.
After airmailing Brendan Schaub back to Denver at last December's TUF Finale, the portly powerhouse put Stefan Struve on queer street at UFC Fight Night 21 back in March.
If Roy can somehow find a way to put a stop to Junior's meteoric rise up the heavyweight ranks, who's to say that he wouldn't be near a title shot of his own?
UFC 117 is set to be headlined by the middleweight title bout between Anderson Silva and Chael Sonnen. Also featured will be perennial top welterweight contenders Jon Fitch and Thiago Alves along with another 170-pound showdown between Matt Hughes and Ricardo Almeida.
For more on UFC 117 click here.
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best card of the year....
can’t wait
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
I smell a whopper of an upset.......
by SHORT_BUS on Jun 9, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
LOL What a photochop on short notice!
Great matchup. Agree with the Pup across the pond. Was this previously rumored on here because I was pretty surprised to see this announced. Either way I’m hoping the card stays injury free…
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Jun 9, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
that 300 stands for pounds right.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c it's a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. 2/1 odds on that too.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 9, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
it says that on the poster
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
that is extremely blurry. i have 20/20 vision too.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c it's a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. 2/1 odds on that too.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 9, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
get glasses
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
fedor sucks and you are el stupido. go one on one with me at ufc 115 chump.
toronto maple leafs. the nhl team that has the longest stanley cup drought. lol.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c it's a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. 2/1 odds on that too.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 10, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
ya...so far so good
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Too Short Too Small
Ask Struve how short and small he was. Sure JDS is largely better then Struve but still.
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Struve Needs a Boxing Coach, A Good One
But when it comes to being technical sometimes JDS is very sloppy. And Roy is actually accurate in his power punches. I wouldnt be surprised to see JDS lose to Roy by KO
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Struve needs to learn to use his length as an advantage.
I just am not sure he gain enough strength and still be able to make 265. He is currently 6’11" and 250 (?) He needs at least 30 pounds of muscle to keep the big boys off of him. I don’t know if he can do it.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
He Is What? 21, 22?
He will put the muscle on. Better start now though
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
My point was that I don’t see him putting on the necessary muscle AND being able to still make it to 265.
If he doesn’t put on the muscle, he is just tall.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Muscle might be a non-factor here. Pinpoint accuracy and technique with his striking is key. Mir is a good example of muscle not being an equalizer.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly Right
But Imagine If Struve could fill out his frame to say 275-280 and have a really good boxing coach. He would be lethal.
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Right now in the HW division,
Strength and good wrestling is the key to beating either Brock or Carwin.
Struve has neither.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Long Legs For BJJ
With a Full 265 pound frame and strength conditioning will help that
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
But he does have some really long limbs; he should go for more Jits
He could work some subs that probably no one else would have a shot at subbing Brock on.
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 9, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed OD.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Ulf - the key to wrestling is endurance but I agree with your analysis.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree but not if it will affect his speed. Some frames are not meant to be burdened with muscle. He strikes me as a naturally rangy fighter who needs to work his MT instead of hitting the weights.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Crazy Thing Is..
He Is Under 23 Years Old
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
FINALLY!
Finally someone will put this fat ass in his spot; and his spot is in the line of In-N-Out burger. When i see Nelson he reminds me of those fat fucks you see waiting in the 30 minute God Damn line waiting for his fix at, In-N-Out burger!
Why are you such an idiot?
I’ve noticed a couple of your post recently.. Just wondering why.
I dont know..
If you could help me figure that out my self, i would be grateful.
by Capnjbrown on Jun 9, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Roy reminds him of his step-dad.
Deep seeded childhood $%&# going on there.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Jun 9, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
dude, you can say shit
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
That’s a great response. You get a rec.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Jun 9, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously dude (capnjbrown) if youre gonna stick around this site try and go with the flow
and the flow is discussing relevant topics of MMA-not insulting someone who has accomplished big things on their physical appearance. dude is a little chubby, and i can poke fun at him as well (as i did above) but thats different than using the term “fat fuck”, and i’ll give nelson some props.
by Andrew Keller on Jun 9, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
lol happens to the best of us man.
shoulda been here after UFC’s 69 and 94. Some dudes had to be put on suicide watch!
by Andrew Keller on Jun 9, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
What?
I dont doubt it. People get so emotionally attached to a fighter, and a specific fight. There has been some losses that after, i swore ill never watch another MMA fight ever again! However i keep coming back for more.
I guess cain can relax now
He doesnt have to fight anyone dangerous at all just get his gift titleshot.
by Lester The Pimp on Jun 9, 2010 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
yep..gotta cater to the guys who will help break into other areas
Not that cane is without skill…but everybody knows it should be cain/jds in there…this shelving the contenders nonsense is irritating
Join The Army, Visit exotic places, meet strange people, then kill them.
by salamagogo on Jun 9, 2010 1:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
why did he have to wait until now to relax? dana announce a while ago that cain would face the winner of brock/carwin and dos santos would have to fight again before getting a title shot.
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
Fat or not
he is in the UFC and has been winning fights. Losing to dos santos wont be a big deal.
Frank Should Get The Re-Match From The Grappling Tourney
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to see Mir/Nelson. Didnt see the grappling match,
but i think it would be a fun fight based on the fact that nelson won once. I’d also be interested in seeing how their striking matched up.
by Andrew Keller on Jun 9, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
nelson didn't want that fight
he feels he should fight someone in the title picture and mir is definitely not one of those few people
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
Why Isnt He?
Former Interim Champ. Coming Off a Loss to Current Interim Champ. He isnt on a losing streak
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
you'd have to ask nelson, he's the one that said mir is not in the title picture
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
Mir is about as close to a title shot as Big Nog
2-3 big wins
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
http://www.fightopinion.com/2010/06/04/roy-nelson-ufc-junior-dos-santos/#more-6886
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
Probably because as long as Brock has the title (or Carwin if by some miracle he were to beat Brock) then there is no reason to see Mir against either of them again.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Agreed. No more Mir. Or the NMM Movement, if you will.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
NMM?
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
No More Mir.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
NMM, I like it
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
duh, how did I miss that? wow, just wow.
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
You got good weed, brother. :)
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
NMM! LMFAO!!!
"You're in this dark tunnel and you've got no way out, you're waiting for light, and you see that light, what do you do? What do you do? You start digging, and getting out. ... I've always beleived you stay in the tunnel and you keep digging when you expect no light. You have the same faith when you expect no light. You have the same beleif in what you're doing when you expect no light. ... It's dark and I'm going to dig through. My shovel is sharp and my pick is sharp and my will is outstanding." --Rod Marinelli 2008 (on his way to that sweet 16!)
Where does Cain V stand in all this? Shouldnt he be fighting JDS for #1 Contender?
I cant wait to see Cain vs. Carwin—Definitely a dream fight of mine
Yup, he is.
I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.
by BNF on Jun 9, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Cain lacks size but if I had to guess I'd say his chin is stronger than both Brocks and Carwins
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I'd also says he is quicker and a more technical.
I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.
by BNF on Jun 9, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I like his chances agaisnt either guy.
I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.
by BNF on Jun 9, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
are you ABM or PT BF??? or undecided yet? is anyone else still neutral?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Neither...
I really like Shane and Brock makes me laugh. But I’m most likely taking Shane FTW. He is a monster and I am always very reluctant to pick a guy coming off a long layoff due to injury, especially with a situation like Brock’s.
I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.
by BNF on Jun 9, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha ha, you guys are funny with that shit. Okay, I guess I'm ABM.
I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.
by BNF on Jun 9, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome aboard, BNF.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks guys. I will try not to let you down.
I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.
by BNF on Jun 9, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
BOOOO
I’m dissapointed in you BNF…
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 9, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry to dissapoint OD, as a consolation I can assure you I will be screaming for Wandi on that same evening.
I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.
by BNF on Jun 9, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Good man
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 9, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
And scream for Randy, always scream for Randy...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I will overlook your sarcasm this one time OJ....
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 9, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
You are forgiven BNF
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
I'm undecided and refuse to decide without the respective leaders courting me LeBron style
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Our leader is like Bill Clinton - always chasing ass and being funny. Good luck.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I know worby is involved but who else? also....
are their lists like me and Adam G did when BJ fought Georges? There needs to be lists for me to get involved…lol
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
click my name and look at the only fan post i ever made
it was the official allegiance post and people chose their side. As close to a list as you will come
Bullets dodge Fedor.
prob nothin'...but maybe I can trick worbs into something
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Shouldn't be too hard...
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
you'd just have to find the right bait..
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 9, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Classic, OD. Fucking Classic.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i think both nelson and fedor could fit under that very large
wood container.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c it's a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. 2/1 odds on that too.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 9, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Immortalization in Dak's comics, Canadian love from jay, Texas barbeque from PW vs...
-UFC payscale bashing from Worbsy
-Narrowmindedness opinion from Striker Dave
-OJR’s goatee
Still need courted? REALLY? (I’ll do yopur taxes if that gets the nod, but I don’t know shit about the Canadian tax code)
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Not sure if this is to me or Mac, but I am on the Pain Train if my sarcasm above is not obvious.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
What the?
Sorry if everybody doesn’t agree with YOU Jimbobb and Ulf. Seems a little narrow minded for you to think everybody agrees with you.
You should've left the goatee out of it... now he's headed to ABM for sure..
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 9, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget my beautiful brown skin and my devilish good looks, Ulf. Plus I have the ability to read and write in coherent sentences (not the norm for PT members).
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
its nice to have someone like OJ around who I trust in case I need to go to the bathroom and need my seat saved
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
You posted a picture of yourself, remember...
I am not sure devilish or good are proper in this instance. ;)
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Don't make me go John G on you Ulf and start spinning tall tales of my romantic interludes!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You shagged Brooke Hogan as well?
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
Ha! Yes. John G got my sloppy seconds. I whispered Pasta Primavera in her ear and her legs parted like the Red Sea, mate.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
I must’ve missed that thread…
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 9, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 9, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
U talk that bak u jurk
we spel reel gud on the trane
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
LMFAO
jurk
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
@Mac
Cain has a strong chin? Did you see Kongo put him on his ass not once, not twice, but thrice?
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
that means his balance sucks..not his chin cause he got back up both times...
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Yes. Weak chin = KO for Kongo. Strong chin = recover from Kongo's shots.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Short night for Nelson. He can’t stand “hard hitting” dos Santos.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
I Actually Think Roy can Take Some Solid Shots From JDS
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
he definitely can
but the voleume willa dd up quick if he doesnt take it tog the ground
Bullets dodge Fedor.
wow spell much freenow?
I said the volume will add up quick if he doesnt take him down
Bullets dodge Fedor.
gooooo nelsonnnnn!!!!!!
House of 1000 Worbses
by daniel worby on Jun 9, 2010 1:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i see this looking similar to Arlovski vs Nelson. Nelson is undoubtedly a good HW, i dont think anyone would argue against that. but i think when he faces top competition with fewer holes to exploit, he comes up short. i look for Nelson to get frustrated on the feet, and ultimately KO’d somewhere in the 2nd.
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
Why does cain get title shot?
Carwin has to go thru the toughest dudes to get his chance. Dos santos also has to fight a lot of people.
Carwin had gonzaga and mir,
Cain had kongo and Nog. Id say both guys (cain and carwin) toughest competition were pretty equal.
by Andrew Keller on Jun 9, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed...Cain is NOT getting a pass
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
what are people talking about?
Brock Lesnar had the easiest road ever both him and Mir did due to their popularity after their 1st fight. JDS, Carwin, Cain have all three done more than Mir and Lesnar did to get to the title that Couture after he too was handed a controversial title shot.
gli azzurri !
Wait, Wait, Wait
Mir, Herring, Randy, Mir is not an easy road. Especially for your first 4 fights. Cain and Carwin smashed lesser talented guys in their first fights. Brock was on Main Stage since day One.
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
(Day2 since he beat one can before the UFC)
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
it is an easy road, compared to what the other guys have done.
and it’s not even about that, most fighters have to wait so fucking long until they even get the oppurtunity they’re looking for. Brock was thrown in right away b/c they paid him a shit ton of money.
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Two ways to look at that. Who is to say if they had thrown Carwin or Cain in with those top level guys their first fights if their records would be the same.
I Think No.
I think any Cain and Carwin lose to Mir in their first fight for the UFC. I also think they have tough times with Herring.
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not trying to take anything from either of them because I think they are both deserving of their rankings. Normal big names are usually given talent that is equivalent to their records. When you are 0-0 or 1-0 you are usually given fellow beginners or people coming off a couple losses that are also near the bottom. So you can look at it that Brock was given a title shot right away because of his name or you can look at it that its amazing that he was competitive with those big names so early in his career.
so a title shot for carwin and cain after going 1-1 against those guys?
NO way. Junior beat Werdum in his first UFC fight and he has to sit around and fight guys like Roy Nelson now.
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Thats True
But we were talking Cain and Carwin I thought
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't look like Herring is even interested in fighting anymore
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by O damn he got caught on Jun 9, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Not broken spirit, ANS. Just a realization of the big picture. You are very young so you don't understand...yet.
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by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Really Think So?
I think he just got his spirits crushed and realized MMA wasnt for him anymore.
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Think it had more to do with $$
He’s fighting 3-4 times a year not making decent money but not the huge pay days; some people also tend to live beyond their means and if he’s making more $$ outside of fighting, who can blame him .
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by O damn he got caught on Jun 9, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
*Making decent money
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Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 9, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW - I was not trying to be condescending towards you ANS.
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by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly, OD. An epiphany that his lifestyle has to change, perhaps?
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by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He should've sold dope imo
He’s a big guy, knows how to handle himself, got the intimidation look going on and no ones gonna try and jack his stash, he should’ve been peddlin pot.
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by O damn he got caught on Jun 9, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He should have stored all of that money away, retired at 30 and written a juicy tell all book and sold himself to the media like an attention whore.
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by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
He shouldn't have signed with the UFC if his contract was as bad as he claims
I feel sorry for some guys who are underpaid and underappreciated but Herring ain’t one of them, he’s an arrogant guy who learnt the hard way that he’s no longer top level and sulked his way out of the UFC in response. Let him make his C list film cameos though he doesn’t deserve sympathy or respect for making that decision.
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I think he and Rampage are of the same mindset. They are tired of putting their bodies on the line and see the potential end to their careers.
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by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
One Mir, No Randy
He fought Mir and LOST the fought Herring and won, then got a title shot. You can’t count Randy, that was the title fight, and you can’t count Mir the second time because that was after the title shot. He had a record of 1-1 in the UFC when he fought Randy for the title.
Cain Is Marketable To a HUGE Market
Thats Title Shot Material
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention the perfect record and the fact that he smashes everybody put in front of him.
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by BNF on Jun 9, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He won me over with his destruction of Jake "The Blanket" O'Brien.
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by BNF on Jun 9, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
He won me over with his striking vs. Nog. Not the KO itself but the fact that he has committed to being multi-dimensional.
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by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
He had me at "Hello"
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 9, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember that he was very unhappy with his preformance agaisn't Kongo.
You could tell that hput in the work.
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by BNF on Jun 9, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
with maybe the exception of the nog fight doesn't he say that after every fight in the UFC?
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
LOL, true.
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by OJR on Jun 9, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I like that though
He sets himself high targets and pushes himself to be the best, that’s the sort of attitude that I want to see in fighters. As long as he maintains this motivation Cain is going to continue to develop into a world class MMAst.
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
That is absolutly the best type of attitude to have. Exactly why I am a fan.
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by BNF on Jun 9, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
JDS is my man!
mainly because my buddies and I made some good coin off him when he came in 5 to 1 underdog against Werdum!
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i know roy is fresh off his struve destruction
But let’s not forget he was gettin lit up by kimbo before he went for the takedown in rd one…its a looong shot for roy to win on the feet..he needs to get it to the ground asap…doubt he will tho
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by salamagogo on Jun 9, 2010 1:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lit Up Is a Bit Of A Stretch
He got tagged with one good punch if I remember correctly
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder how Roy is training for JDS
with Struve he was training with broomsticks as Struve’s arms lol.
I would bring in Aggressive strikers and thats it.
JDS ground game is probably equal to Roys
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 9, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if Roy can block JDS uppercuts
with his belly LOL
I doubt JDS' ground game is anywhere close to Roy's
Roy is a grappling wizard, JDS is a brown belt who has never been tested on the ground in a fight.
Bullets dodge Fedor.
JDS has good hip movement during takedowns
but I’m dying to see what he can do off his back. They are two of my favourite fighters and I can’t wait to see how they match up. I’m hoping to see a war between these two
Im pulling for nelson, i like JDS but nelson is the man!
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by Thats It For you! on Jun 9, 2010 2:01 PM EDT reply actions
nelson is fighting for all the coach potatoes which are many considering 67% of the country is overweight.
but jds will win by a combo of strikes to the stomach and face of roy “big country” nelson. dreams die hard mr. nelson. man has got to know his limitations. the knockout of struve is the best you are going to do in the ufc.
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great matchup
Im going for roy but dayum this should be a good fight ether way
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