UFC Quick Quote: Fedor Emelianenko doesn't deserve to step inside the Octagon
by MMAmania.com on Jun 30, 2010 11:31 PM EDT
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"Nope. Now I don't have to hear about him anymore. I like it.... He has star power? Nobody cares. Do you realize this is something that's been created by the mixed martial arts media? Do you know how many people watched his fight the other night? 400,000 people watched it. The guy has absolutely no star power. They sold no tickets to that fight, either.... Here's the problem, the guy loses and gets to fight one of these guys? I've been saying for years this guy isn't all that. He's not great. Everybody's talking about how great this guy is, no he's not. Now he should deserve to come into the UFC and fight the best? No way!... The guys who fight in the UFC are fighting the very best three times a year. This guy hasn't fought anybody since 2005. The media created him and hyped him up. Not me. What do you want me to say? This is what I've been saying?"
-- Well, that's that. UFC President Dana White tells ESPNRadio1100 (via CageWriter.com) that he's no longer in the hunt for the elusive former Pride FC heavyweight champion, Fedor Emelianenko, after he sustained basically his first loss in a decade of competition last weekend. Emelianenko, who has famously shunned White's repeated attempts to join the UFC fray, got trapped in a Fabricio Werdum triangle choke while competing under the Strikeforce/M-1 banner, losing convincingly to a UFC castoff (Werdum was 2-2 inside the eight-walled cage). It appears that Emelianenko lost more than his aura of invincibility on June 26 -- he may have missed his chance to seal his legacy and go down as the best ever with a successful, high-profile run with the mixed martial arts marketing machine. Having said all of that, he still may go down as the best ever. And he probably doesn't really care one way or the other what fans, or Dana White, think about his career choices. Care to predict who'll have the last laugh in this never-ending saga?
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Simply awesome, DW. So before he lost Fedor was a crazy Russian who should be in the UFC but now that he lost his first fight...Fedor sucks. LMAO. DW=Pancake. I gotta love it! *bracing for the UFC scrotum soldiers*
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
he's always been that way.
the only reason he wanted fedor in the ufc was to make money off of him before he fell.
but in any case, now they the ufc is no longer trying to get him. m-1 loses a lot. SF should be happy that they wont have to try to match pricetags with the UFC anymore.
You mean an opportunist who changes his views to gain the advantage in a business situation? Yeah, I understand that concept but his 180"s get tiring.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Agree with OJ, its a dick move to kick somone when they are down
hell they won’t even let you do it inside the octagon but the the great Dana White is exempt from everything.
I have said it before and will say it again, You don’t see Roger Godell dogging out NFL players if he is not happy with them and with all the shenanigins they get caught up in like Vick, Big Ben, Ray Lewis, Plaxico Burress etc. Can you imagine if these guys were UFC fighters…..DW would wasn’t no time dogging them out to the press.
DW is like school on Saturday……no class.
Nobody makes me bleed my own blood!
I AGREE WITH DANA
FEDOR SHOULD NOT FIGHT IN THE UFC , HE SHOULD FIGHT WHERE THEY HAVE REAL……HEY DANA……REAL MMA , NOT THE BULLSHIT UFC , WHERE MY GRANDMOTHER CAN FIGHT , FEDOR BELONGS IN REAL MMA , DO YOU KNOW THAT IF YOUR ON THE FLOOR IN THE UFC , YOUR ONLY SOLE OPTION IS TO …..EXCUSE ME…..LOL….BODY KICK YOUR OPPONENT , AND IF YOU HAVE YOUR OPPONENT ON THE FLOOR , YOUR ONLY TWO OPTIONS ARE …..LMAO….EXCUSE ME AGAIN……TO BODY KICK YOUR DOWNEN OPPONENT , OR……GET THIS…..READY…..GIVE UP ALL ADVANTAGES AND SIMPLY DROP INTO YOUR OPPONENT GAURD (HOPE THEY ARE NOT A BLACK BELT IN JU- JITSU) ……..NO KNEE ON THE GROUND EITHER …..THIS RESEMBLES A REAL FIGHT LIKE DANA WHITE ASS RESEMBLES A STRIPPERS…..PLEASE…..UFC IS GREAT PRACTICE …..NOTHING….NOTHING LIKE A REAL FIGHT …….COULDN’T LACE PRIDE’S SHOES IS A MILLION YEARS …..LONG LIVE PRIDE
P.S. I CAN WRITE A WHOLE ARTICAL ON WHAT REAL MMA IS , AND HOW COMPARE MMA TO REAL MMA , I.E. PRIDE FIGHTING, IS LIKE COMPARING FOOTBALL WITH PADS COMPARED TO FOOTBALL WITHOUT PAD , LIKE SCHOOL LUNCH VS YOUR MOM BEST MEAL , LIKE A HOT WHEEL VS A MONSTER TRUCK, LIKE A WILD THREESOME WITH TWINS VS DRY HUMPING YOUR PILLOW
P.P.S. DANA PLEASE KEEP YOUR WEAK AS VERISION OF MMA ON , I LIKE TO WATCH IT EVERY NOW AND AGAIN TO
by BondTheLaySilva on Jul 1, 2010 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions
wow your caps is broken..
and that whole post was retarded
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Jul 1, 2010 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions
YES IT WAS
THEY BROKE LIKE YOUR MOMMA VAGINA , but that aside , what ….part….didnt….you ….get…..rampagelangford?
by BondTheLaySilva on Jul 1, 2010 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions
well..
that was a very clever response sir, bravo.
the…part..i…didnt…understand….was….all…of…it.
as you made no valid points whatsoever, MMA is a sport they’re trying to bring into mainstream and be accepted by people around the world not just as a brutal put two guys in a cage cock fight.
the days of PRIDE are over deal with it and dont watch any MMA if its not real enough for you….BondTheLaySilva
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Jul 1, 2010 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions
P.P.P.S.
A WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE
TIM “DOWN SYNDROME” SYLVIA – UFC BORN
CHUCK “WAKE ME UP IM KNOCKED OUT AGAIN” LIDDEL – UFC BORN
TITO " I SCARED OF CHUCK LIDELL " ORTIZ – UFC BORN
MIRKO CRO COP
FEDOR
ANDERSON SILVA
RAMPAGE JACKSON
SHOGUN RUA
AND THE LIST GOES ON ALL ….PRIDE BORN
LEAVE MMA TO THE PRO’S
STICK TO CASINOS
by BondTheLaySilva on Jul 1, 2010 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions
wtf ahahaha
ok
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Jul 1, 2010 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions
WHEN YOU DROP OUT IN THE 5TH GRADE
THINGS LIKE THIS TEND TO SEEM POINTLESS……HEY I FEEL YOU MAN….SORRY YOUR MOM WAS A W**** GROWING UP AND LET YOU DROP OUT
P.S. i should have use words like bravo and whatso ever , maybe you’d understand
DO YOU KNOW THAT IF YOUR ON THE FLOOR IN THE UFC , YOUR ONLY SOLE OPTION IS TO …..EXCUSE ME…..LOL….BODY KICK YOUR OPPONENT , AND IF YOU HAVE YOUR OPPONENT ON THE FLOOR , YOUR ONLY TWO OPTIONS ARE …..LMAO….EXCUSE ME AGAIN……TO BODY KICK YOUR DOWNEN OPPONENT , OR……GET THIS…..READY…..GIVE UP ALL ADVANTAGES AND SIMPLY DROP INTO YOUR OPPONENT GAURD (HOPE THEY ARE NOT A BLACK BELT IN JU- JITSU) ……..NO KNEE ON THE GROUND EITHER …..THIS RESEMBLES A REAL FIGHT LIKE DANA WHITE ASS RESEMBLES A STRIPPERS…..PLEASE…..UFC IS GREAT PRACTICE …..NOTHING….NOTHING LIKE A REAL FIGHT …….COULDN’T LACE PRIDE’S SHOES IS A MILLION YEARS …..LONG LIVE PRIDE
by BondTheLaySilva on Jul 1, 2010 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont really understand your point.
dont watch UFC or Strikeforce or Bellator or any other MMA organization then…..
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Jul 1, 2010 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions
"The other shape,
If shape it might be call'd, that shape had none,
Distinguishable in member, joint, or limb;
Or substance might be call'd that shadow seem'd;
For each seem'd either; black it stood as night,
Fierce as ten furies, terrible as Hell,
And shook a dreadful dart; what seem'd his head
The likeness of a kingly crown had on.
Satan was now at hand; and from his seat
The monster, moving onward, came as fast
With horrid strides; Hell trembled as he strode."
-- John Milton
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Dana is not the Athletic Commision in the US.
He has nothing to do with the rules made for athletic events here. The only thing Dana did for MMA in the states was ask how the and what he needed to do in order to get it approved in the states, with many states having there own little tidbits of differences (like the double weigh in , in Nort hCarloina).
Apparently, it could Lace Pride’s shoes, becuase Pride is now nothing more than a defunct company and memories of yester year, while the UFC is the fastest growing sporting name in the world. So apparently the UFC maybe the Shoe for Pride’s laces. Remember Pride was not perfect either, if it was about being a real fight, they didn’t allow elbows to the downed opponents. So while soccer kicking someone in the face may have its plus side in making a fight seem real, it is also a half a step away from curb checking someone. I actually enjoyed Prides rules but MMA lost the “REAL FIGHT” comparison with the first couple of UFC’s when they basically allowed everything but fish hooking and eye gauging.
Shivello "The Voice": That jab is stiffer than a box of Viagra!" and I am still wondering if I heard this one right on Dream 14...."These guys are busier than a cucumber in a women's prison!"
These
UFC Fanboys will never understand that Pride was 10x better in every facet. Guys had to fight now hug against a fucking cage. Half the guys in UFC would be KILLED in Pride.
BTW Pride is not dead all the top guys are Pride originals and Pride has been out of business for atleast 4 yrs WOW.
FUCK u DANA White UR not A FIGHTER stop taling shit like you have the right you piece of shit. DANA TURNS MMA INTO WWE. TAke a fucking seat and play the back let the fighters market the sport u BOXERCISE HOMO
The man that doesnt fall, Doesnt Stand
Fuck u Fedor haters
by The real ZACK on Jul 1, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
The hugging against the cage is the influence of wrestling in mma.
It is called dirty boxing and wearing down your opponent. Makng the fighter carry your weight.
You can’t compare the Pride of then to the UFC now. The fighters now are super human athletes. They eat, sleep, and shit working out, training, and diet. Wrestlers have always and will always excel in mma. It is the anti-BJJ and stand up art. That is why the British fighters and Japanese fighters can’t contend with a lot of the North American wrestlers. I think any top UFC fighter right now would do just fine in the Pride of then. I love MMA, I am far from a UFC fanboy, I watch everything I can on HDNET, Showtime, PPV, and the net but you can’t take away or discredit what the UFC has done for MMA. Pride vs UFC is an opinion based argument. Arguing opinioons is just ridiculous. If you look at the the Top 5 fighters from each UFC weight class and say they would not stand a chance in Pride back then, it would be crazy talk.
Shivello "The Voice": That jab is stiffer than a box of Viagra!" and I am still wondering if I heard this one right on Dream 14...."These guys are busier than a cucumber in a women's prison!"
HI BILLY MAYS HERE
HAVE YOU EVER WANTED TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS? HAVE YOU EVER WROTE SOMETHING ON A MESSAGE BOARD BUT DON’T FEEL LIKE YOUR GETTING THAT RAW EMOTION ACROSS? NOT BEING AS OBNOXIOUS AS YOU COULD BE IN PERSON? WELL I HAVE THE “KEY” FOR YOU!
CAPS LOCK….
IT MAKES PEOPLE SCREAM WHAT YOU TYPE IN THEIR HEAD!
OR ITS JUST BIGGER
LIKE THE PUSS FILL PIMPLES ON YOUR MOM ABUSED VAGINA , OR MY MAN TOOL COMPARED TO YOUR inverted penis …. its just BIGGER
by BondTheLaySilva on Jul 1, 2010 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions
LEAVE HER OUT
I LIKE YOUR MOM…….
I SEEM TO BE OFFENDING ALL THE LOSERS THE SPEND HOURS IN THEIR ROOM DOING PUSH UP HOPING TO ONE DAY GRACE A UFC OCTOGON …..BECAUSE THEY RELIZE THEY PRACTICE TO BE THE …. I CAN RUB MY PENIS ON YOUR THIGH "CHAMPION OF THE WORLD " ….WELL GOOD LUCK
by BondTheLaySilva on Jul 1, 2010 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I GUESS THIS IS MADE UP
A WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE
TIM "DOWN SYNDROME" SYLVIA – UFC BORN
CHUCK "WAKE ME UP IM KNOCKED OUT AGAIN" LIDDEL – UFC BORN
TITO " I SCARED OF CHUCK LIDELL " ORTIZ – UFC BORN
MIRKO CRO COP
FEDOR
ANDERSON SILVA
RAMPAGE JACKSON
SHOGUN RUA
AND THE LIST GOES ON ALL ….PRIDE BORN
LEAVE MMA TO THE PRO’S
STICK TO CASINOS
by BondTheLaySilva on Jul 1, 2010 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Leave posting on mania to people with common sense
Stick to coloring books with pop up pages
"The other shape,
If shape it might be call'd, that shape had none,
Distinguishable in member, joint, or limb;
Or substance might be call'd that shadow seem'd;
For each seem'd either; black it stood as night,
Fierce as ten furies, terrible as Hell,
And shook a dreadful dart; what seem'd his head
The likeness of a kingly crown had on.
Satan was now at hand; and from his seat
The monster, moving onward, came as fast
With horrid strides; Hell trembled as he strode."
-- John Milton
by O damn he got caught on Jul 1, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
@ jimbob. So wut only the ufc can call AS a pride star?!
& AS lost to 2 or 3 cans in pride. I know it wa a long time ago.
I'm going out on a limb and saying
English is not your primary language.
OJR what do you expect though? He wanted Fedor in the UFC to prove a point
the point is no longer his to prove so he says “fuck you”. Its gotta be fucking frustrating when you’re trying to get a fighter and his management are being dicks but you gotta swallow your pride by trying to get him in. M-1 had so much leverage it wasn’t even funny. And they just kept bullshitting thinking Fedor was never going to lose because he was being handed all these “cans” to fight. Now the dude lost, he lost his ranking, he lost his mystique, M-1 lost its leverage, they lost their “power” and DW said the first thing that came to his mind…“fuck them”. I can’t blame the man for that shit.
Doc: You know what they say: People in glass houses sink sh-sh-ships.
Rocco: Doc, I gotta buy you, like, a proverb book or something. This mix'n'match shit's gotta go.
Doc: What?
Connor: A penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it?
Murphy: And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.
I understand your POV but I expect DW to act like a professional businessman. This ain't the streets and he is not a victim here.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
True OJ....and most hurtful to Dana, there is nothing to gain by dissing Fedor
Instead he comes off like this I told you so rich no it all. It is only setting up the day when he will have to eat alot of crow because his day is coming.
People dig on Carwin for “flip-flopping” with his comments but it is obvious that Dana is the King of flip flopping and straight out contradiction.
Nobody makes me bleed my own blood!
by WarriorSaint on Jul 1, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
WOW... onemansyn!!! I couldn't have said it better myself...
we all know Dana is an immature spoiled brat that gets what he wants… But that doesn’t make him wrong all the time. ESPECIALLY when it comes to Fedor.
Listen the guy was an amazing champion… but since 2005 he has been riding on the coat tails of his past victories and fighting nobodies or washed up guys that still have a big name from their glory days of the dark ages of the UFC
It was only a matter of time that he fought somebody that had some real talent and he would lose… Dana just wanted it to happen in the UFC.
Fedor’s reign is over… and yes AS OF NOW he is the greatest Heavyweight of all time
AS OF NOW
by Jared DeMarino on Jul 1, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I think a lot of us knew he was going to spin this around this way.
I said it from the get go, that Dana would say Fedor got beat by a UFC reject and it would completly effect his bargaining power. I really don’t think Dana ever believed he was the best, really only wanted him in the UFC so he could lose in the UFC, and he could say, “I told you he was not worthy of the UFC or that great!” He always said and I believe most of realize that Fedor lacked star power among the everyday fans of mma. Unfortunatly for the everyday mma fans, as soon as the Fedor hype train started gaining some momentum, he was derailed by a fighter who was just barely a top 10 fighter (he was most certainly not a top 5 guy and I still question if he is truly a top 5 after this). I am not siding with DW and think that Fedor would wreak havoc with the UFC HW division but I truly don’t think DW wanted him in the UFC for any reason but to lose.
Shivello "The Voice": That jab is stiffer than a box of Viagra!" and I am still wondering if I heard this one right on Dream 14...."These guys are busier than a cucumber in a women's prison!"
I don't think
he wanted him just to lose. I think if the terms were agreeable by both sides (M1 and UFC) from the get go, Fedor would come in to win some and lose some. If it got to the point where he needed to get cut, then it would happen. I don’t think he would treat him any different than most of his high profile fighters. This rant by DW is coming after all the crap that’s been going on between Fedors camp and him. And like most people have already said, DW would still sign Fedor and promote the hell out of him even after this loss. Yeah, I see he said “Nope!” but if M1 approaches with a better, more agreeable offer (cause now they have to, right?) and the UFC likes it, I think it’ll happen.
No
Now there stuck with him. And Fedor has no negotiation room his price tag just plummeted
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 30, 2010 11:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i'm sure they'll have to pay him another 1.5 million or so for his next fight
but after that it’s done
M1 Really Got Screwed On This One
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 30, 2010 11:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I Know You Wont Like This OJR
But I’m with Dana here. I’m glad Dana won’t pursue him now. I’m glad that mess is done with. Fedor got tapped by a ufc cast off perfect for Dana. Sure intriguing match ups for Fedor are available but hell I’m glad M1 is swallowing their own shit now.
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 30, 2010 11:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I am not a Fedor fan but for DW to talk shit is a bit much. DW got the upper hand as soon as Werdum made Fedor tap. Move on and focus on the UFC. Give the comments a rest. Jeez.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Of course but why trash the guy? You are successful and you have the best MMA org on the planet. Act like it.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Fedor will be fine an I’m sure he could care less, he will go down in history as one of the best. He will also be remembered as one of if not they most humble fighters, I like the ufc, but at some point dana’s ego will bite him in the ass. Also I’m sure its a relief finally getting the “real loss” out of the way.
by AfflictedLotus on Jul 1, 2010 1:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
at 9:48 pm
I’m just doing the regular… watching a movie. Couldn’t help but check out mania.
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 30, 2010 11:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dana White will still pursue him
Dana is just already getting ahead in the negotiating process but acting like he has no desire to sign him. Just like he did with Kimbo. He paid more than Kimbo’s worth as far as skill goes too. Even though he was the loudest critic of Kimbos skill. In the end, its all business, and despite Fedor’s recent loss, most true mma fans want to see him fight top talent in the octagon. Either to cheer him on, or hope he gets beat so they can say I told you so
Yes he Will
But it will be the same old Dana White saga story. Bash, Bash, Bash, then come out like it is nothing and say “I was wrong Fedor is one of the greatest fighters in mma history and he should be able to continue to fight top notch fighters”
Dana didn't pay Kimbo nearly what Elite XC did.
by naturalshadow on Jul 1, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
He is still paid him more than his worth in skill
New guys with records of 2-1 or 3-1 or whatever he had against no name competition get no more than 6k per fight (some less than that) Kimbo got much more than that. Its also been reported that he got a lot of special treatment when he did the show, which leads me to believe he might have been getting paid on the show as well.
Werdum may have been fired from the UFC
but it is possible he’s gotten better since leaving them.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jul 1, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
He wasn't fired by the UFC. The UFC wanted to renegotiate his contract after the JDS fight, and they couldn't come to terms, so he left.
http://www.mma-king.com/2008/11/10/fabricio-werdum-leaves-the-ufc-1115/
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
No, you have the option to continue working there at the proposed salary, or you can seek employment elsewhere. Getting fired is getting fired. It's not the same at all.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Either way you don’t have a job and you really didn’t have much of a choice. You can call it a choice but is it really?
Yes, a choice is a choice. Are you trying to change the English language here? He had other options, so he chose a different employer. If my boss comes to me and says, "I want to drop your salary by x amount", and I counter offer, and we can't agree,
I would leave and get employment elsewhere. That’s not getting fired. You’re attempting to spin this into something it’s clearly not. It’s very simple and basic, don’t try to complicate things to suit your agenda. Dana said I want you pay you x amount. Werdum said, no thanks, I’ll work elsewhere. That’s NOT getting fired.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Someone please find QJR a chick with a huge ass to help him blow off some steam. These angry anti UFC comments are getting real old.
Who is being anti-UFC? You get me a big booty chick and I will get you a book called reading comprehension 101. Deal?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
How is it retarded? Look for one post that reads that I am anti-DW or anti-UFC and I will eat jelly off Flockhart's bony ass. LOL.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Simply Stupid
Come on!! Everybody knows that the chance Dana White gets to sign the paper saying that Fedor is coming to the UFC to fight, he will without a doubt sign the paper for him to fight either Brock or Shane Carwin. This was stupid for Dana White to say that shit. Its just like letting go of Kimbo Slice. Hell I hated the guy and wanted him to lose every time he fought, but I never missed a fight that he was in and I would still watch Kimbo fight just bc I want to watch him lose. Same way with Fedor guarantee everyone will still watch him fight. Hell he has only lost one fight and he got submitted, in like a minute after he threw a fist that stunned Werdum. Shit happens, ask GSP when Serra threw that lucky punch that knocked him out or Ryo Chonnen when he got that lucky ankle lock on Silva. DW is a shitty business man and the Fertita boys need to take over to make this a more professional and marketable sport.
shitty business man??
i strongly disagree. He’s a dickhead yea but not a shitty business man, now you’re just talking nonsense. Dana White is all about business and just because he does things you are against doesn’t mean he is a “shitty” business person.
Psalm 144:1 Thank the LORD, my rock, who trained my hands to fight and my fingers to do battle,
by the chubbster on Jul 1, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree with you OJR
Dana sells the UFC product, thats what he does, you either dont take him serious becuase of that or you let it bother you, I for one like to tell it like it is and let the chips fold as they may…
Anybody who watches MMA and is a true fan and understands the sport should realize Fedor is the best heavyweight (still) and was for the past 8yrs. The way he ko’s and subs guys is biomechanically above anybody else I have ever seen. Everybody losses, Fedor looked sharp and fast vs Werdum he just caught like Anderson vs Ryoan(name). Although I think he is getting slower and older and it is a shame he is not in the UFC, but when you compare who has has faced vs anybody else in the top ten p4p, it matches up quite nicley.
Nog(prime)
Cro Cop(prime)
Coleman(midprime)
Randleman(midprime)
AA was coming back with 2 ko wins against guys who are now fighting in the UFC and Fedor destroys him with one shot
Rogers sucks but at the time was considered real dangerous, one shot destroyed…
GSP and Anderson competition vs Fedor’s and they add up nicely
Nog(Fedor) vs Alves(GSP) who is the better fighter?
AA (Fedor) vs Nate(Anderson) comparing who has fought who, Fedor matches up nicely with the best, in terms of who he has fought.
UFC still has the best product and fighters but most pros and commentators admit Fedor is the best heavy ever including Penn, Rogan and Bas, so its not just Sherdog!
Sure Dana
You’ll sign jobbers like Kimbo, James Toney, Phil Baroni and Mark Coleman but not Fedor.
Yeah, ok!
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Exactly, he won't sign Fedor because he sucks...until he signs Fedor and touts him as the best HW ever.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
you know what though OJR
Look at Dana’s track record, every time he cuts someone they seem to drop off and lose to lesser competition. he does have a great eye for talent. I always knew (and was vocal) that Fedor wasn’t a draw, but I always believed he was the best
True about the talent thing Kev...I want to pose a question though
Is it true that Fedor isn’t a draw because no one knows/likes him or is it more like the organizations don’t know how to market their fighters especially the most successful one of all times?
Nobody makes me bleed my own blood!
by WarriorSaint on Jul 1, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Only the hardcore fans in America know he is, not the casual fans. And he looks like a typical pudgy balding 30-something, not like one of the most dangerous men on the planet. You can sell Brock because he’s a massive man with an impressive physique, but not Fedor, especially when he’s wearing one of his sweaters and eating an ice cream cone.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
good point P-Dub, I think there is a way to sell Fedor though
Since Fedor doesn’t have the physique of say Brock or Kimbo for that matter, you sell him the opposite way, You put Fedor in suits and say something like “Don’t let the smile and calm demeanor fool you, this guy will thrash a man quck” You play off the looks that aren’t what you would expect from a world beater and in fact he would stand out more because he doesn’t look like every gymrat in america.
Its all about the story you tell when marketing.
Nobody makes me bleed my own blood!
by WarriorSaint on Jul 1, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
thats *quick
Nobody makes me bleed my own blood!
by WarriorSaint on Jul 1, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
New flash Dana FEDOR WASNT GOING 2 THE UFC ANYWAY!
Dana trying 2 make it sound like ge never wanted fedor =D like fedor was obsessed with getting in the ufc or something. Hilarious!
Well...
Fuck you Dana Fucking White. You KNOW that Fedor is a legend and you and your money can’t get him. You have nightmares with Fedor, I know that!
Dana doesnt have nightmares of Fedor lol! He has dreams of having Brock as his multi million dollar cash cow.
Oh that’s a reality?
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 30, 2010 11:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Only until Saturday
Hard to market a guy whose frontal lobe is getting smashed into his cerebellum.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
by Johnny WF on Jul 1, 2010 12:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL Even if Brock lost
He is still five times as marketable then Fedor sorry bud
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 12:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, he is. Even Brock spoke respectfully about Fedor's loss. DW's cash cow and HW Champ being soft spoken and shining through while the president muddies himself with crassness.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Yep. Anyway, if Fedor ever did sign with the UFC, we KNOW DW would market him as the best HW ever. All those fights he owns would come out in force to promote him.
Dana’s always been pissy Fedor wouldn’t sign, so he’s taking the chance to bash him because he acts like a spiteful high school girl. Typical shit from Dana.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
That's exactly what would happen Dice...
I mean Dana allowed Tito and Cro-Cop to come back, how on earth would he not want Fedor at least once to headline a card.
He says Fedor is not a draw, I think that has more to do with the way Strikeforce markets. I didn’t see one commercial for the Fedor Werdum fight and yesterday I saw a bus with a Lesnar Carwin sign on it.
Put Fedor in the UFC and he will be come easily one of the most marketable fighters inthe UFC. The UFC knows how to market Strikefoce could use help
Nobody makes me bleed my own blood!
by WarriorSaint on Jul 1, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
The last sentence is correct
He has never cared about what fans or Dana White think of him. That is why is isn’t interested in facing top competition in or out of the UFC.
Honestly, I did not. I was obviously wrong.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Dana will do and say ANYTHING to boost his brand
This also helps plummet m1 bargaining leverage even more
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 30, 2010 11:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I completely agree but in this case it is beating a dead horse. UFC reigns supreme and the Fedor loss was the final nail in the competitive coffin. Do you disagree?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Your Right
But Dana has too hammer that nail at least once…
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 30, 2010 11:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You sound like a DW apologist, ANS. I admire what he has done but he needs to be more professional and not trash people in his professional circle.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
* in his MMA circle.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I always follow this motto : be cool to people while you are on top because they might be the same people you bump into on your way to the bottom.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jul 1, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thats true
I’m nice and respectful to everyone at least I try to be. Unless I’m disrespected of course.
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 12:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You don't have to be fake but don't go out of your way to be a complete dick - especially if you are the head of a very successful franchise.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
OJR
So you just want Dana to be fake? This is him buddy. If he were to say something nice you guys would jump all over him for hiding something.
The man is an asshole, hello?
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
You can be an asshole as a person, no problem. Its just bad for business to SOUND like an asshole. Never burn your bridges.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jul 1, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think his business has proven to be fine with him there.
I agree with you guys though, it has gotten REALLY old after listening to it for this long. But one of the reasons I even decided to give the UFC another chance after the lean period was Dana. I wanted to see what else this buffoon would say on TV.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
What bridge could he possibly be burning here?
He doesn’t have Fedor. He hasn’t had Fedor. Tearing down Fedor only makes his brand look better to some.
by TheIlluminati on Jul 1, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
His brand already looked better and Fedor losing was the cherry on top. I don't see your POV.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jul 1, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
"The guys who fight in the UFC are fighting the very best three times a year."
Riiiiight, thats why the champion of your organization was given a title shot after going 1-1 in the UFC. GTFO
Now Hold On Here
That statement is completely correct the fighters in the ufc are absolutely fighting the BEST competition 2-4 times a year
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 30, 2010 11:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Do we really need to go over this again!?
Until Saturday night the top 4 ufc guys have yet to fight each other (Lesnar, Carwin, Dos Santos and Velazquez). Dana keeps feeding BS.
by ChuteLegend on Jun 30, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
were talking
Fighters in general and he says there fighting the best which they are
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 12:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Um anyone can do a quick search on google and find out.....
That Fabricio Werdum has better victories than Brock, Carwin, Cain or Dos Santos.
Can You Do One Then
Cains beat Nog and Kongo
Carwin beat Mir and Gonzaga
JDS – Cro Cop Yvel
Brock beat Mir Randy Herring
Werdum before Fedor beat Gonzaga and…
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 12:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cain – A past prime Nog and a 1 dimensional Kongo….really?
Carwin – A demoralized Mir and a Gonzaga whose been on the decline since Randy…really?
JDS – Im not even gonna comment both those guys are well past there primes/hey days
Brock – LOL only decent person listed there is MIr, Randys biggest win at HW was Tim Sylvia GTFO
Werdum – Fedor, Gonzagax2, Overeem, Vera
Lets not forget top p4p fighter
Ben Rothwell for Cain and the list of cans Carwin beat before recently. Or how about Brock and his W over Min Soo Kim man such credentials.
Your WEAK attempt to discredit fighters make you not worth the effort to argue with
Sorry but anyone who discredits fighters aren’t intelligent MMA fans. Watch let me show you.
Werdum beat Gonzaga who hasn’t been anything more then a mid tier fighter who loses to all good fighters and beats C level fighters. Gonzaga = Overrated
Werdum beat Overeem. Who had issues cutting to 205. Was depleted and weak and shell of his current self. He was inexperienced and today would mop the floor with Werdum.
Werdum beat Vera. An over achiever at best. Never showed anything other then beating an out of shape Mir. Lost to A past his prime old randy and scrub wash out Jardine and only beats cans.
See how stupid it is. You can do it to anyone
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 12:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh
And he beat Fedor who was massively Overrated. Barely beat anyone more then cans since 2005. Who couldn’t defend a triangle my white belts could defend against
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 12:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
maybe tito
should’ve been in fedor’s corner after the loss so he could show him what he did wrong! lol poor mckenny(Sp)
Psalm 144:1 Thank the LORD, my rock, who trained my hands to fight and my fingers to do battle,
by the chubbster on Jul 1, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL!
I guess maybe this one slipped past your all knowing mind but by agreeing with Dana White’s statement you’ve by default discredited every fighter outside of the UFC.
I was just doing what Chute did
im not saying that what i believe im saying anyone can discredit someones record. I like werdum. Read the whole argument between chute and myself
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
If gonzaga is anything ANS why did carwin get a title shot after beating him!? & don't 4get gonzaga was wrecking him the whole fight b4 he got caught!
The best fight best 3 times a year is a crock a shit. That’s why he’s keeping Cain away from everybody. Jones vs vlad is the best fighting the best!? Haaaaahaaa =D
Gonzaga Is A Good Fighter
heavy hands and a very good ground game. Unfortunately he loses in the big fights. And beats people on undercards. Its just the way it is. Cain away from everybody? Kongo almost KO’d him MULTIPLE times and then he went on to face ANTONIO RODRIGO NOGUEIRA… LOL.
Jones vs Vlad is going to be a much better fight then you think. It will not be a squash match. If you dont give Vlad credit you dont know your mma.
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
F*ck this bald @sshole… im bald, but f*ck this guy.
by Ronin Noremlas on Jun 30, 2010 11:56 PM EDT reply actions
If Fedor wants to come to the UFC he will.
Regardless of if Dana is being a dick or not.
I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.
No Actually He Cant
Unless Dana wants him in. You can’t think Fedor can just walk in if Dana doesnt want him
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 12:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think if anything the Fertitas would overrule this....
Theres still plenty of money to be made in Fedor matchups, especially if he comes back strong and destroys wedum & overeem.
You Dont Think The Fertitta Bros
Share the same feelings and Dana is just the boldest of them
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 12:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I dont remember the Fitch/Video game situation?
Dana was ready to cut fitch cold turkey, fertittas stepped in.
Weird I Thought
Or remember anyways that Fitch wasn’t cut because he choose to sign the exclusive rights contract or believe he would have been cut. No Fertitta intervention needed
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 12:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ANS you really think Dana wouldnt sign Fedor in an instant if he could now?
I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.
I'm just saying once the smoke blows over and he gets a win under his belt.
I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.
I think Dana
Initially says take the TUF route then signs him and puts him vs b level dude. But I think he won’t negotiate immediately that’s for sure. He will go the semi kimbo route with him
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 12:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
GTFO here with that shit-talk ANS, did Fedor bang your mom or something.......
You are really talking out your hole on this one…..You are obviously jealous of The Emperor and his skill-set and wish you could have just 1% of his fame and fortune.You just lost all credibility in my eyes……………As if Fedor needs to prove himself to anyone at this stage in his career……….TUF Route you say…..LMAO……..are you serious?? Semi Kimbo route you say?? Seriously ANS?? You get rocked in training or something cause that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on Mania!!!!
There will never replace Cro Cop, Wand or Fedor, fuck the Haters, stay loyal to your favourite fighters, win, lose or draw.
Whoa
ANS is just saying what he thinks Dana would do, he didn’t say he would have the same opinion.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
Ah stop right there Jack, ANS is a big boy, he can speak for himself, I like you so lets keep it that way.......
Anyone and I mean anyone who thinks that Fedor should or possibly could go the TUF route must be smoking crack. This is the same Fedor who just got his first real loss in a decade, Pride Heavyweight Grand Prix 2004 champion, The same Fedor who holds the distinction of having held five separate major championships including the RINGS World Heavyweight and King of Kings Championships, the Pride Fighting Championships World Heavyweight and Heavyweight Grand Prix Championships and the World Alliance of Mixed Martial Arts Heavyweight Championship. We are not talking about Meat-head here for fucks sake, we are talking about Fedor Emelianenko, the baddest mother fucker to ever compete in mixed martial arts!!
There will never replace Cro Cop, Wand or Fedor, fuck the Haters, stay loyal to your favourite fighters, win, lose or draw.
I totally agree, 100% with your whole post.
And it would be an insult to make Fedor go through TUF. Dana’s a prick, but I hardly believe he’s that much of a prick, to do something like that. But I was just saying that despite what ANS thinks would happen, I reckon he would agree with you about Fedor as well, but he just doesn’t seem to think that Dana would.
But you’re right. ANS can speak for himself when he returns.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
If i mis-interpreted the context of his post then maybe the viciousness of my retort was un-justified but fuck it , I said it so can't do fuck all about it now.
There will never replace Cro Cop, Wand or Fedor, fuck the Haters, stay loyal to your favourite fighters, win, lose or draw.
lol
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
I wouldn't even worry about it tkkpal
It would never happen, but it DW ever actually brought up the suggestion that Fedor go TUF, he would be absolutely gang raped on the blogs.
That would never happen.
Fedor is the the #1 fighter in MMA history.
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
Fedor is not going on fucking TUF
But he wouldn’t walk in and fight for a title. He would have to win a fight before he got a title shot. What do you think this is Strikeforce?
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
TKKPAL
thats not what I think should be done. Its what I think Dana would do. Im actually not a “ufc fanboy” and actually was rocked yesterday in training. But aside from that, I think Fedor is the best HW of our time. I dont like to say ever because if you have a HW tourney with all the great HWs in their prime anything can happen.
Dana is a dick and I like him. He built this org from the ground and has built my sport into something to be proud of. Sure he can be a bit of a flip flopper but hey what can any of us do about it. The irony here is Fedor had all this leverage over him and now Dana says hey fuck you Fedor keep your ass in SF.
So now instead of unloading tons of money and co promotion he now has the leverage and Fedor wont be fighting anywhere near the big stage unless its on Danas terms. So Im not on some UFC Fanboy stuff because actually to this day I still mis Pride, I watch Shooto, I watch Dream and I love small promotions like KOTC, RITC, ETC
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree with u tkkpal. ANS is on a good 1 today.
1st lost in 13 years & his career down the tubes?! Lmfao give me a break U ufc fanboys R hilarious!
and about your article link
Like I said Fitch signed the contract. That’s why he wasn’t cut. Never does it say Lorenzo stepped over Dana
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 12:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
For less money (since he lost) and DW trashing him worse than before? I think not, BNF.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I said if Fedor wants to.
First, Dana is full of shit, 2 weeks ago he is obsessed and now he couldn’t care less. I call bullshit.
Second, if Fedor really did want to prove himself after the loss, he would finish with SF with a W then come on over. If HE wanted to.
I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.
You have this twisted
Fedor has NO say as to being in the ufc that’s a fact. If Dana wants to allow him in that’s different
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 12:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You honestly think that Fedor couldn't ring Dana and say I want in????
Dana would give his left nut to have Fedor and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional!!
There will never replace Cro Cop, Wand or Fedor, fuck the Haters, stay loyal to your favourite fighters, win, lose or draw.
It’s not that simple though. Perhaps Dana wouldn’t meet the figure Fedor would want, leaving Fedor to decide whether he would want to sign with a less than satisfactory contact. Due to the loss, I reckon Dana would be offering less than he did earlier.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
Correction:
… a less than satisfactory contract.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
Dude, I'm simply saying, regardless of terms and conditions, if Fedor wanted in, they would sign him faster than you can say Dana's full of shit!!
There will never replace Cro Cop, Wand or Fedor, fuck the Haters, stay loyal to your favourite fighters, win, lose or draw.
Duh...obviously the UFC would have him. They took Kimbo after similar trash talk, but they're not going to sign someone they've been "obsessed" with signing? Riiiiiight.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
No shit Sherlock.
There will never replace Cro Cop, Wand or Fedor, fuck the Haters, stay loyal to your favourite fighters, win, lose or draw.
That picture looks like Jay when people said that Belcher beat Cote fair and square in MTL. The resemblance is uncanny.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jul 1, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha poor jay
That reaction was nothing compared to jays when he saw my pic and sig.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
by David W-S on Jul 1, 2010 10:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That was a great pic and sig, David.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You know what's funny?
The guy who lost his legend was kind, humble, and respectful.
The guy who benefitted the most acts like a cunt.
Also, I seem to recall a guy you cut from the UFC knocking your welterweight champ the fuck out.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
by Johnny WF on Jul 1, 2010 12:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I will take Matt Serra for $100, Alex.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Apparently
He was on the comeback season of ultimate fighter
Ya they cut him like 5 years ago lol
He was on a bad streak of fights then also so not really a point to be made there.
I dont get the guys point though
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 12:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You can't devalue a fighter with any sense of finality. I think that is the point. Serra fought his way back and won in a big upset after being deemed unworthy of the UFC.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
It was lame
He is just referring that werdum was cut from the ufc, and apparently serra was so that makes it the same situation according to him.
werdum was cut because after renegotiating his contract he turned around and lost
the same reason the nfl, nba and another other sport cuts players that arent performing to what they should be
I think the underlying theme here is not to discredit a fighter after a loss - especially his first official loss. I don't think that is a lame point. Its pretty accurate.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Of course it is - by discrediting the fighter. You devalue the product so you can scoop it up at a lower price or put the competition out of business.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
What he fails to mention
Is he was 2-2 in the ufc and wanted 6 figures a fight.
Right, he wasn't CUT. He tried to renogotiate and WALKED AWAY. Completely different. The misinformation around here is pathetic.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Dana is right
Fedor is not a draw at all, it is what it is. The money and terms fedor and m1 demands is ridiculous for what he draws.
and MMA suffers due to the UFC...
why? new york for example can point to how brock lesner acts as a reason to avoid the sport…Fedor acted as he should, with honor and respect in defeat…Dana has just Shi! all over him now thats hes lost…so a fighter dana cut too early….
I am so sick of the SF bashing, the “anyone who isnt UFC isnt the best in the world” BS…People like Frank Mir are looked at as so amazing, while “big foot” is looked at as over the hill and done….its laughable…
Werdum beat fedor/overeem…Brock lost to…OH right…
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
lmfao... really
is that what the committee said? “did you see how brock lesnar acted, we can’t allow that here in new york”
Haha this guy is actually comparing the ufc hw division and sf hw division
Werdum and fedor are rematching and the champ who defended his belt for the first time in 2 and a half years is fighting ricco rodriguez now because strikeforce didnt like the outcome of the fedor werdum fight.
I think he is Dice
I remember a thread yesterday…
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
big foot did get done for steroids
so that taints his name. mir was one of the youngest hw champs so props to him
I Agree Whole Heartedly
I wish there was none of this B.S.
by AintNoSunshine on Jul 1, 2010 12:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
all that really mattered here was $
At the end of the day, the UFC is a business. Fedor’s stock just plummeted for the foreseeable future. It’s not about who really is the best.. it’s about selling seats and ppvs. Lesnar on the other hand is a more polarizing figure who grabs the interest of the casual fan.
StrikeForce if they had any personality would put a spin on this.
…if they promote things right it puts 3 fighters in the limelight, Overeem, Fedor and Werdum… throw in BigFoot to fight one of these guys get them all on the same card and then work on the rest of the card… Stickeforce production needs work as well as it’s marketing, however we all know Fedor losing was embarressing for his fans… he would beat werdum 9-10 times….. actually after 3 times werdum would be forced to retire from brain damage… I think D. White is turning this into a negative and Scott Coker is letting him… c’mon’ Scotty speakup!
Just like I predicted
The reason why Dana wanted him so bad was because Fedor wasn’t in the UFC and everybody was talking about Fedor being the best hw/p4p. It bothered Dana! Now that he lost, Dana can make himself feel good and say all that stuff!
i wondered how long it would take him
Dana will always say shit like this i suppose he’d be a shit salesman if he didn’t.. i bet if when Fedor finishes his contact & did except an offer from the UFC Dana’s tune will all of a sudden change again to him hyping Fedor up
Guaranteed it would. He's be calling Fedor the best HW ever. All of Fedor's fights that he owns would be made into sick promo's.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
UFC FANBOYS
These UFC Fanboys will never understand that Pride was 10x better in every facet. Guys had to fight now hug against a fucking cage. Half the guys in UFC would be KILLED in Pride.
BTW Pride is not dead all the top guys are Pride originals and Pride has been out of business for atleast 4 yrs WOW.
FUCK u DANA White UR not A FIGHTER stop taling shit like you have the right you piece of shit. DANA TURNS MMA INTO WWE. TAke a fucking seat and play the back let the fighters market the sport u BOXERCISE HOMO
The man that doesnt fall, Doesnt Stand
Fuck u Fedor haters
the UFC bought out Pride cause they couldn't compete with them
which is what will eventually happen with strikeforce if it ever becomes as big as the UFC
NO! u fail terribly
The UF bought Pride because Pride was in very bad financial trouble and most importantly the proposition of opening business in Japan as well as having the BETTER pride fighters oin the UFC roster
The man that doesnt fall, Doesnt Stand
Fuck u Fedor haters
by The real ZACK on Jul 1, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
YES
Def was. Better fighter better Fights better rules whart more do u want. We seen what happened to Lidell wen he went to Japan. And he lost to the GUy that didnt even win the tournament.
And the several fights in one night tournament style is true warrior shit. Also Hw vs LHW fights i mean come on cant get more real than that,
ANS get DW Taint from off of your face
The man that doesnt fall, Doesnt Stand
Fuck u Fedor haters
by The real ZACK on Jul 1, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll still go down as the best HW of this era.
But it’s true, he hasn’t fought a high-caliber opponent in a long time. A lot of people have been saying “2005,” and that seems about right. I wouldn’t call his post-2005 fights walks in the park by a long shot. But he hasn’t fought world beaters. We’ve seen many instances of the favored star losing to a heavy underdog, in the past couple years especially. So, the fact that Fedor didn’t fight high-caliber opponents doesn’t mean they weren’t tough. At the same time, he didn’t fight top ranked fighters, other than (at the time) AA and TS. Rogers was up there, too. I didn’t think much of Rogers, but he was ranked in the top 10 at the time (right?).
Well, I’m not a big Fedor fan, and I’m not a big DW fan. So… whatever.
JUst compare
Fedors resume to anyone elses and tell me who fought better guys. Who has CARWIN FOUGHt? What about Brock ? Mir and Coutoure i mean come on.. A shitty BIG NOG beat Coutoure almost stopped him I mean come on. GUys have no fucking clue for real.
The man that doesnt fall, Doesnt Stand
Fuck u Fedor haters
by The real ZACK on Jul 1, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
UFC had same intentions with Fedor as they did Royce Gracie.
Pre Hughes vs Gracie, Royce still had a mystique around him from his past glory days. His name still came up in conversation as relevent. That was taking some of the thunder away from the UFC and fighters at weight with Gracie. They knew full well going into that fight that Hughes 9 out of 10 would destroy Gracie, and he did. We don’t hear much conversation anymore about how great Royce is…was great…absolutely. Same setup was the intention for Fedor. He would have certainly put up more of a fight, no doubt. But in the end it was clear that he would have been set up to fail for the clear intention of removing a focal point away from the UFC overall fighter pedigree. Fedor was never going to be brought into the UFC to become a company fighter and a running champion. He was being brought in to squash his name just like Royce. It’s clear Fedor fans that him being put into trouble by Rogers, outboxed by Arlovski, and submitted by Werdum that he would have been completely out MMA’d by the top 3-5 in the UFC. The only weapon that has saved him recently was the big looping swinging punches that if connected resulted in ko’s. He’s obviously great at that and has tremendous power in both hands. Swinging for the fences is not enough anymore. i.e. Liddel, Hendo…and Fedor. He caught Arlovski(Glass chin anyway). And Rogers has no business being in the big fights. No disrespect to Fedor. He was miles ahead of every other fighter in his day, and well rounded. The problem is that today the fighters becoming well rounded and learning all aspects of MMA from the best teachers are also Larger, Stronger, Faster Athletes. It’s time to move on to “BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS”.
Nice post.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I don’t think you can really say that Royce was taking anything away from the UFC considering the he helped to build their name and they helped to build his. His first 11 or so fights were in the UFC.
He took with him a belief that he was still relevant.
UFC/DW are/is too proud to have any fighter outside their roster drawing attention. Before that fight Royce was still discussed in the same light and level. One round with Hughes and that was eliminated. It’s so obvious. Look at it from a clearly business standpoint and it makes sense, because that is the only way the UFC looks at it.
haha
you really don’t consider Fedor well rounded? He falls into someones triangle/arm bar and he’s not well rounded? AA is one of my fav. fighters and i’m sick of everyone saying “well he was winning the first round w/ boxing” ok he was out boxing him, but i would never say he was in any danger.
Fedor was never in trouble before till now??? Coleman had his back once! Hong Man Choi! Mark Hunt could have subbed him!
You need to stop hanging from Dana’s marbles! Fedor is still a top 5 HW.
Since you obviously don’t know anything about Fedor’s record, go take a look at it, and see what the majority of his wins come from….. SUBMISSION!!!
He’s only human! Everyone thought of him as invincible and now everyone’s reality is chattered. He’s gonna get an immediate rematch and things will happen much different.
Dana of course is gonna talk shit, but when Fedor’s contract is up, he’s gonna try and sign him.
I even said he was well rounded. Do you read before replying?
No disrespect to Fedor. He was miles ahead of every other fighter in his day, and well rounded. The problem is that today the fighters becoming well rounded and learning all aspects of MMA from the best teachers are also Larger, Stronger, Faster Athletes. It’s time to move on to "BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS".
He will only sign him to further destroy his name.
Lesnar, Carwin, or Cain would be too much to handle. If your a fan of his then be happy his loss came by submission and not a KO or GNP. I’m sorry man, but Fedor on his back under Lesnar would be a massacre.
Dana's Ploy
This is Dana’s ploy to get him at a cheaper price! I bet any money that when his contract is up he’ll still try to sign him.
James Toney? Kimbo? Coleman? Trigg? He signed these wash ups and amateurs. Dana is so freaking retarded that he’d prob. put Fedor in the same category as them.
Fedor will never make that mistake again not trusting a BJJ guys ground game. The rematch will def. be a dif. story.
Not for the money
Showtime isn’t doing this t make a fortune, they have Dexter and Weeds and all that other shit for that. If this was about making money they would have cancelled the boxing a long ass time ago. As long as Showtime can break even on insurance and fighters salaries I don’t think they care about giving up a time slot on their own station once a month. That’s why I like them, I think they have an actual passion for sports, again, the boxing proves that to me.
DW is a dick
so Brock gets caught in a submission and he still gets called the greatest hw of all time with only 4 wins, fedor gets caught in a submission with 30 wins on his belt and dana white calls him a chump? wow
The difference is...
Brock is still a rookie, and got caught. Fedor was considered unbeatable and got caught. HUGE difference.
na
na your wrong, many fighters get caught in submissions, and KO’s, doesn’t mean they are finished after that, they just made a mistake and payed for it
My point is simple.
Whether it happened in the UFC or elsewhere. His mystique is gone. That is what all this was about. Let’s all move on to what is happening today with current fighters. I give Fedor all the credit in the world because it is well deserved. He was well ahead of his time, and is still a very dangerous fighter. Times change.
omfg
wtf… is up with all u pplz !!.
its only 1 loss.. who else has only 1 loss in a decade of fighting mma. !
Fedor will become even stronger after this loss..
"They say the only way to kill a lion is with a rear naked choke. I would just kick it in the head." - Bas Rutten
"Liver, liver, liver, now get drunk" - Bas Rutten
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