Fabricio Werdum: Beating Fedor Emelianenko 'is the best thing in world' (Video)
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Fedor learned a valuable lesson last night DON’T DIVE HEAD FIRST INTO A JUJITSU MASTERS GUARD. For such an experienced guy that was a rookie move.
I think he would have been fine if he fell inside werdum's guard. Nullify just like he did to nog.
But not holding position when one of the best HW grapplers of all time scrambles on you, yea definitely a valuable lesson. And that was not a luck or anything, everything werdum did was perfectly setup and transitioned into from the initial armbar. He locked up the triangle, made sure it was tight, then went for the armbar instead of blowing it by jumping for the arm too quick. No rookie thing for a decade of dominance to fall to thousands of hours of perfected BJJ.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jun 27, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Like I said yesterday werdum has a chance
Fedor he has displayed slower reflexes in his 2 fights, this doesn’t surprise me at all, all great fighters get old, Fedor of pride wouldn’t lose to werdum, Fedor is and was the best ever heavy but is slipping greatly
I don't know how a man can sit behind a computer and say that Fedor is losing "it"
because he lost to a man we all know is the best in the world on the ground. He made a mistake it happens he’ll get his rematch and win and then maybe they can fight again and he’ll win again.
USA All the way !
LOL at Werdum being the best in the world on the ground
No one was saying that before Fedor tapped. Every one thought this fight was set up for Fedor to win, and most looked past him to the Reem fight. Way to spin it though Roberto, you fuckin Hack!
Roberto=good poster. Werdum has very good BJJ and if u look up his grappling accomplishments they are right up there in contention for the best in the world (minus, of course, Roger Gracie, who seems to be barely competing in MMA).
werdum is far far far from being the best HW grappler of bjj guy
But I bet people will start spinning it like that
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 27, 2010 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So who do you suppose is better? Name a few guys if you can. I’m not doubting you at all by the way. I’m curious.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
Speaking of good grapplers, I heard during the SF broadcast, when he fought, that Roger Gracie was training something like 80% BJJ and 20% stand-up. Man, that guy should go crazy training stand-up, 80% stand-up or more. He would improve dramatically.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
Roger Gracie ain't even on the radar and he's competing as LHW.
name a successful HW in MMA with better BJJ than Werdum?
impossible!
Why Did Fedor Really Lose? Aftermath Review
Fedor is a world class grappler and he’s very good at that, although I was hoping to see him give his 100% Fedor Lose To Werdum Conspiracy
by Alicia Colbie on Jun 27, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Roger Gracie ain’t even on the radar and he’s competing as LHW
I never said he was competing at HW, nor did I compare him to anyone. Are you trying to correct something here? Because there is nothing to correct.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
I wasn't replying to you.
I was responding to ANS , I would like to know who’s a better hw grappler in mma than Werdum and it’s not Roger since he’s competing as a LHW + he’s a beginner in MMA.
None
Even in BJJ gi and no gi, it’s Roger, Marcio Cruz, then Werdum. No one is a bigger fan of Big Nog than me but Werdum has way more grappling accolades than him (stil my boy simply outboxed that ass up and down that ring). Frank Mir shouldn’t even be mentioned in the discussion. Nothing to spin here, Werdum is the best BJJ at HW.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jun 27, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok. Well, I was the one who brought up Roger, and that was just a general statement.
I agree. Werdum is certainly one of the best.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
Yeah, I wonder who is so much more superior to him in grappling as well as just BJJ, according to ANS. That’s why I asked him. I’m curious to see what he says. Oh well, he either didn’t see the question or chose to ignore it. Probably because it wasn’t aggressively asked by SD in a post which takes up half the page.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
we all know brad imes has the best bjj for a hw!
I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett
"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
Slipping is not losing it!
He is still the best heavy out there but his fights have been more competitive lately and I think its because he is getting older thats all…IMO the Fedor of Pride runs through Rogers and Werdum, Nog in his prime was more dangerous on the ground
no, robert but the general view on this site is that he's losing it.
my honest opinion is that he’s fighting bigger and better opponents today than he did in Pride. Today’s MMA fighter is more complete and dangerous than the one 5 years ago.
Thats a valid point but Fedor
has been fighting for a long time and theres no shame in getting a little slower, Werdum is not bigger than anybody Fedor has faced and Nog was better on the ground/. Im also a strength and conditioning coach, so I anaylize all the time, Fedor"s reflexes are not a sharp as they once were, that being said he is still the best heavy out thee and I still believe he would kill Brock, Carwin, not sure about JDS or Cain
agreed.
I don’t believe his speed or “declining” physique played a factor in this fight though, he was just reckless.
He fought kinda like Chuck Liddell does when he’s standing, you are gonna get caught fighting wild like that if u miss your shots.
against Nog he played it smarter and took much smarter risks.
Why Did Fedor Really Lose? Aftermath Review
Fedor is a world class grappler and he’s very good at that, although I was hoping to see him give his 100% Fedor Lose To Werdum Conspiracy
by Alicia Colbie on Jun 27, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, we could do without your shit fucking spam.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
Jackanapes
No disrespect towards Werdum but his MMA BJJ isnt as world class as his Gi/No Gi BJJ say in ADCC. Sure he is a masterful bjj guy and has shown that with two world titles but his MMA BJJ isnt the top of the world. I wish I could give you a list of who are better. IMO I would say Mirs MMA BJJ is just as good as Werdums MMA BJJ. The sub on Fedor wasnt anything other then very very good technique. It wasnt spectacular bjj
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 28, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
If there was ever a truly justified rematch, this is it
Fedor wins it, easy.
by Lester The Pimp on Jun 27, 2010 10:17 AM EDT reply actions
Sure sure..
Conan : You are known as a striker. Is that correct? Tell me what that means.
Chuck : Well I like to punch people, or kick them.
would you pick werdum in a rematch?
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jun 27, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
if it were anyone else there wouldnt even be a rematch
so why should fedor get one just cus he lost…why didnt big nog get an immediate rematch against mir? oh yeh just cus its FEDOR the almighty he gets a rematch cus he lost and it wasnt like it was a fluke either.
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Jun 28, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
So does Fedor give Werdum that stupid WAMA belt...
or does he continue to walk in, with that fake ass represntation of something insignificant?
Shivello "The Voice": That jab is stiffer than a box of Viagra!" and I am still wondering if I heard this one right on Dream 14...."These guys are busier than a cucumber in a women's prison!"
I believe someone on here says it was for the WAMA belt but am not to sure who it was.
So by that logic yes Werdum is the new WAMA champ lol. What a joke hope he throws it away or worse tell Fedor to keep it.
Never tell your problems to anyone...20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them.
by Jamie The Peach Hunter on Jun 27, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought WAMMA no longer existed?
I don’t think Werdum would want that stupid fake belt.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
I know it was longer but he still walks around with it...=)
Shivello "The Voice": That jab is stiffer than a box of Viagra!" and I am still wondering if I heard this one right on Dream 14...."These guys are busier than a cucumber in a women's prison!"
Emelianenko, who was said to have been consoling his sullen team members backstage afterward, was characteristically calm following the defeat, smiling to the press as he answered questions.
read this on sherdog and thought it was hilarious. Those M1 bastards are crapping their pants!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
haha
you can add crossed fingers on their other hand and toes too.
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jun 27, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
what u can’t see in this picture is the horse shoe up ass and lucky rabbit foot in hand, just to name a couple things lol
I do a lot of jacking off, ya know, because I don’t get no women, so these arms are, like, humongously big. See it’s workout, and it’s pleasure.._" Charles Bennett
"He who fights and runs away lives to fight another day and looks like a ***** today." -Tank Abbott.
We can all keep arguing about last nights events.....
But one thing is for sure. Werdum won in decisive fashion, you cant take that from him. Now as for Fedor, only time will tell. We may not see him enter the ring for another year. And his next fight will no doubt be the most important of his carreer. I guess thats the worst part of this thing we all love called MMA, the wait.
I DONT SEE WHAT THE BIG DEAL IS?????
Its strikeforce. Fedor obviously lost on purpose so that he could get the title shot….lol. Thats how strikeforce works isnt it? Get KO’d or submitted and your next in line for the title shot. Good thinking Fedor…LMAO!!!
by Rare Poker Tips on Jun 27, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions
Where are all the guys that were talking shit about Brock tapping?
Brock was in his 2nd fight when that happened! Fedor or should I say “GOD” would never tap right? Now all of a sudden Werdum is “the best on the ground?”
its not fair to do imediate rematch for werdum, he earned his shot
werdum should fight overeem and winner takes on fedor, or even better if they wanna pair up big foot vs fedor and winner takes reem or fw
SHOGUN SLAYED THE DRAGON! Hell Yeah
by Phenomenal Angel on Jun 27, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions
strikeforce better not set up an immediate rematch
a lot of people seem to think that’s the only smart thing to do business-wise. I think in the short term, perhaps. Not in the long term. Fans would lose respect for Strikeforce and Coker if the next fight was a rematch. SF already takes a lot of shit for some matchups. Werdum won fairly and decisively, and Fedor does not even come close to deserving a quick rematch.
i wonder what is going on in
JDS mind???
by kinghaze on Jun 27, 2010 1:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
One of the funniest moments in mma history
Emelianstinko taps to a ball sniffing submission.lol
Fedor "The Last Can Crusher" Emelianstinko finally falls at the hands of a washed up UFC Contender...the Irony:)
werdum wasn't lucky
to pull off a move like that is amazing because fedor is a world class grappler. Nog couldnt even sub fedor in 3 fights and he was on his back most of the time in those. GIVE WERDUM CREDIT he is a top ten heavyweight IMO
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