Strikeforce results recap from last night (June 26) for 'Fedor vs Werdum'
by Jesse Holland on Jun 26, 2010 11:56 PM EDT
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After 28 fights over the span of nine-and-a-half years, famed Russian heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko has finally been defeated.
That's the big story coming out of the Strikeforce: "Fedor vs. Werdum" event, courtesy of a bookie-busting upset by Fabricio Werdum, who shocked Showtime viewers and a packed HP Pavilion with his submission win over the former PRIDE deity last night (June 26) in San Jose, California.
"Vai Cavalo" was put on his keister just seconds into the main event, but a charging "Emperor" apparently had his submission defense held up in customs.
Werdum earned his shot at Strikeforce Heavyweight Champion Alistair Overeem by submitting Emelianenko with a slick triangle/armbar combination that dropped the iron curtain on Emelianenko -- as well as the world's divisional and pound-for-pound rankings.
It may be safe to assume the Brazilian, perhaps for the first time since it happened, is glad he was cut by the UFC. And speaking of the world's largest fight promotion, anyone else think Zuffa boss Dana White just popped the cork on a bottle of champagne?
Cung Le, with actor Channing Tatum in his corner (seriously), wanted to prove that his stunning TKO loss to Scott Smith at last December's "Evolution" event was due to luck, not skill.
Mission accomplished.
The San Shou striker was evasive in the opening minutes as "Hands of Steel" went into full bumrush mode, swinging for the fences and hoping that lightning would strike twice.
Clear skies in San Jose.
Le eventually found his rhythm and turned up the heat in the latter part of round one. He secured his revenge in a dominant second stanza, capitalizing on Smith's trademarked Venus de Milo defense for the technical knockout win.
Cung Le has returned, and will likely participate in the upcoming Strikeforce middleweight tournament if current division champion Jake Shields defects to the UFC.
Time will tell.
Strikeforce Women's Champion Cristiane Santos waltzed into her title defense against Jan Finney as a bloated -2000 favorite by the accounts of some sportbooks.
"Cuddles" may now be thinking that was a conservative estimate.
In a performance that was eerily reminiscent of feeding Christians to the lions, Finney was damn near devoured whole by a ruthless "Cyborg," who delivered four knockdowns in the first round alone.
Was Referee Kim Winslow's decision to let it continue a reckless one?
Santos was docked a point for being overly aggressive as she dropped multiple sledgehammers to the back of the noggin during one of her patented blitzkriegs.
Finney, to her credit, was able to hang on and run out the clock in a defensive strategy that I believe is referred to as "not dying."
The second round played out much like the first. Santos laughed off a few jabs and proceeded to go apeshit in the clinch. Finally, mercifully, Finney was spared another full round of abuse.
Apparently between rounds someone must have informed Winslow it wasn't a fight to the death.
Is there a doctor in the house? And more importantly, is there a female fighter in the game today who stands a chance against the Brazilian terminatrix?
Former Strikeforce Lightweight Champion Josh Thomson was tasked with getting the "Shark Tank" warmed up for the Showtime telecast by throwing down with the venerable Pat Healy in the opening fight of the night.
"The Punk" did not disappoint.
Thomson went to hell and back with the larger and stronger "Bam Bam," but managed to keep his wits throughout the razor-close bout and secure a rear naked choke with less than a minute left in the final frame.
It didn't come easy -- and Healy definitely earned the respect of the crowd (and his peers) with an aggressive style and gritty performance. He gave Thomson all he could handle and likely claimed at least one of the first two rounds before running out of steam and succumbing to the last-minute submission.
A great show of heart and an impressive finish for the former champ. Where does Thomson go from here? Rumor has it that Lyle Beerbohm is looking to take a major step up in competition...
That's it from us. Now we want to hear what you have to say ... share your thoughts and "Fedor vs. Werdum"-related comments below.
Assuming you're not still in shock.
If you missed any of the action you can check out the Strikeforce: "Fedor vs. Werdum" play-by-play and live fight coverage here.
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I've said for a long time now that Fedor was on a decline.
I still thought he was the best in the world, but he fell right into that triangle.. Still, the greatest that ever lived, but I call a retirement coming from him rather soon.
About time.
Time catches up with everyone. Fedor is still one of the greatest ever but the last 5yrs he hasn’t been fighting the best in the world. Congrats Werdum!!!
Alright
I’m still in shock but I just want to get in here. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t completely forget how much the UFC dicked around with Werdum (not giving him his title shot etc) but it wouldn’t have mattered. I have gave him NO shot vs Fedor like most of you. Didn’t even give it a second thought.
I really can’t believe it and watching the fight over again I see that Werdum was never fazed and totally faked/baited Fedor into getting on the ground. Good for him. I give him all the props in the world.
That being said I expect nothing less than 700-800 comments per thread mentioning Fedor’s name. I try to get in early on stuff like MMBB and other fan posts by people I respect other than that I’m laying low until the trollage blows over. Love the regular maniacs, trolls be damned. See ya’ll next week probably.
Unbelievable shit…
I have never been all that impressed by Fedor!
I put $15 on Werdum that won me $68! Not huge money, but it’s also the first time I ever bet against Fedor. Why would he follow him to the ground???? That was just DUMB!!!!!! That was the only place that he could lose the fight. He might have been the best HW ever, but he isn’t now and he made the worst move possible!
FEDOR WON'T FIGHT ANYONE IN THE TOP 5 EVER AGAIN !!!
so credit SF for putting on a good fight, werdum WAS a game opponent.
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
Guess Fedor isn't the #1 HW now!
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
he is.
maybe not this year but over a longer period of time he is untouchable in the rankings.
Werdum is a world champion BJJ artist so not surprising how it ended.
USA All the way !
I agree, best HW ever...
just not at this time.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
Well said Oswald.
Very true statement. I still think he beat’s most HW’s and is still top 3 easily tho.
He beats Werdum 999999 times out of 1000000
In all time discussions Fedor is without a doubt #1 and you can debate big Nog
simply because he has more top 10 wins. However now, Brock is number 1 without a doubt. I won’t even debate it. Soon enough carwin will be tho;)
Big Nog for Life
Inventor/supporter of "Gleison Tibau to Featherweight" movement.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Jun 27, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Lesnar didn't last 2mins with Mir..
People get caught..
Everyone loses sooner or later man..
Lesnar's 2nd fight...
Fedor’s 34th or so… not the same.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
It was his second fight ever in MMA against a fighter as good if not better than Werdum
This is not Fedors 2nd fight the losses are not comparable LOL
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
All I’m saying is 999999 times out of 1000000 seems alittle crazy after being submitted in one minute and nine seconds.
he gets submittet 999999 out of 100000000 times if he comes in like that.
and so does any fighter, Werdum is a legit world champion in BJJ. I would like to see Brock Lesnar submit Fedor from his back if he fell down.
USA All the way !
Fedor would be the one on his back in that fight
Therefore that question is unanswerable.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Right but...
until Fedor comes back with some big wins…
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
I told people not to sleep on Werdum, although definitely didn't see it going down like that. Fedor did what he's never done(dumb mistake, never should've stayed there after that sub attempt) and he paid for it. Great job Werdum; looking forward to July
3rd.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
lol
Your taking what I said a little to literally.. I was doing it just to prove a point.. Fedor wins that fight much more often then he loses it.. He just got caught..
Does it mean he’s overrated? No.. But his sub defense was uncharacteristically poor. I personally think since the Sylvia fight that he has this thought in his head that he can just rely on his punching power to win his fights alone. Tonight it seemed like he thought he had Werdum rocked when he didn’t. and forgot about the defense when trying to flurry and finish him off
The King is Dead. Long Live the King..
I know, and now i proved my point.
make a mistake and you’re fried at the highest level in any sport and also in life.
USA All the way !
Ok I know its just speculation but...
who would your money be on in a match between Mir and Werdum? I’d have the house bet on Mir without a doubt. And like Oswald said below that was Lesnar’s 2nd fight in MMA, so it can easily be blamed on inexperience. Whats Fedor’s excuse? I’m not blasting Fedor, he’s been nothing short of amazing since his domination in Pride. But as the old Ric Flair addage goes, to be the man, you gotta beat the man. Whoooooooooooo!
by Kimura_Dragon on Jun 27, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Fedor is the best of all time
Regardless of losing to Werdum tonight. I think on any given night anyone can beat anyone. That’s MMA. In Fedor’s case, nobody can match his resume. His dominance for 10 years.. tonight being his first true loss. Jordan, Tiger, didn’t win every game or match.. Fedor is not the best fighter in the present, however he is the best fighter of all time.
Rankings are only based on right now. Not who was best 5 years ago, he's not ranked first anymore
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Alot of ranking don't do it like that though.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
well right now in mma is like over the past 2 yrs.
cause they only fight 2-4 times a year.
USA All the way !
Roberto
He’s not number one ranked.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
on ur own ranking? we both know rankings don't exist in mma. so for us to even discuss this isn't gonna happen.
USA All the way !
They don't?
Better tell MAnia to stop posting these non-existent rankings than, they will start to confuse people like you.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
no they don't. the rankings are coming from newspapers and websites.
it’s about as official as my own ranking i have at home.
USA All the way !
I know rankings are shit
But they are popular opinion from professionals that know the game better than you do. You will have your own rankings and they will be somewhat close to popular opinion, but who are you again?
Winner of Brock/Carwin will be ranked first(if they don’t for some reason make Werdum #1) by the day after their fight. Book it.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Explain the LW rankings if Fedor won't be knocked off first
Does anyone really think Frankie Edgar is the best LW in the world?
You can’t be ranked first after a loss no matter how good you are/were.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
as i said, if rankings existed it would be UFC's own but they don't have any.
You couldn’t possibly think Brock Lesnar would have gotten a title shot after going 1-1 in the UFC if they followed rankings?
USA All the way !
all they have are title holders, that's their main focus.
no tournament style, no qualifications like u have to through in any real sport.
USA All the way !
+ a ranking is never and i repeat never formed by opinion.
sleep tight, my canadian friend.
USA All the way !
Brock was lucky at the time the UFC had a thin HW division
The UFC has the best structure #1 angainst #2 most of the time unless those fighters have fought already. And #3 inCain is waiting for the winner. July third the NEW#1 HW of the world we be wearing the most reconized and merited belt in MMA!!
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I can't wait until StrikerDave gets home from the fights and gets online
He saw Fedor get tapped LIVE. He’s probably got a shotgun in his mouth right now.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Yeah poor Striker LOL
I’m going to be all over him, he’s not going to dance out of this one. #1 HW weight in the world be fighting July third how do you like that Striker LOL
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
No official rankings exist....
but they do exist and everyone of them had Fedor at #1!
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
Not anymore
WHOOO!
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
lol
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
He lost his last fight
He won’t be ranked first
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Or we wouldn't see this
Lightweight rankings
1. Frank Edgar
2. B.J. Penn
3. Gilbert Melendez
4. Kenny Florian
5. Eddie Alvarez
6. Gray Maynard
7. Shinya Aoki
8. Tatsuya Kawajiri
9. Sean Sherk
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
5 years from now
you will not even think that, the best hw ever will go down as cain velasquez, hes still young and learning but hes got the pedigree, the drive, the heart, and the talent to do it
by randy murders on Jun 27, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
idk about 5 yrs
but cain has potential and i wouldnt be surprised if he beats brock or carwin.
SHOGUN SLAYED THE DRAGON! Hell Yeah
by Phenomenal Angel on Jun 27, 2010 5:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We'll find out soon enough who is...
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
yep..
when the winner of Lesnar/Carwin fight Cain and JDS.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
The winner of this fight will be ranked first in all or most rankings right after the fight
I’m gonna make it my sig right now so you don’t forget I said that
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
No way!
Verdum won’t be ahead of JDS since he destroyed him.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
Yeah that's why the winner of Brock/Carwin will be first
followed by Fedor
the loser of Brock/Carwin
Werdum
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
You think Werdum would be lower than JDS, even though he lost to him?
I think a win over number one would easily jump him. Look at Frankie Edgar, he lost to MAynard but beat Penn. He still jumps Maynard just for beating number one. I’d actually be surprised if WErdum isn’t ranked first.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Jay I agree except Werdum won't be ranked #1, probably 3-5. Fedor MAY hang on to #1, but I doubt it. Lesnar has too much hype behind him(honestly I don't mean that in a deragotary way) for a win to not take that spot, and Carwin being 13-0 with his last
win being over Lesnar would be too much. Can’t go beyond that right now, don’t know what’s next for Fedor. Mostly bummed because I wanted that Fedor-Overeem fight. Let’s see if Overeem bests Werdum this time around.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
I really wanted that Fedor/Overeem fight too
But I am not bummed.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Yea me too! I had Overeem winning that fight!
If Fedor somehow fought him next, that would be 2 losses in a row! IMO
FEDOR WON'T FIGHT ANYONE IN THE TOP 5 EVER AGAIN !!!
I thought this was a throw away fight.
I thought for sure we would see Overeem KO him. This will do though.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
BJ is in the same company as Gray...
Fedor isn’t the UFC champ. I personally woulnd’t put Werdum ahead of JDS cause he hasn’t lost since then. Gray barely beat Diaz. It’s all opinion based anyway but I don’t think he should be.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
Believe it or not I'm actually a Fedor fan...
and it kinda sucked to see him lose and I liked how he handled it but I hated how he didn’t come to the UFC and hated people who thought he was unstoppable.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
He really took it like a champ. He seems like a great guy, made no excuses, and kept his usual demeanor. Respect.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
yeah, I sort of hoped to see him go out with the 2 wins...he was a champ in defeat, its just...sometimes you want to see a guy go out on top
this reminds me a bit of watching e.smith with the cards, or I guess if I was a Favre fan, favre with the jets…the vikings..
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
There's gonna be a lot of crazy comments so I'll be real
Fedor looked out of shape and was tricked onto the ground by a crafty Werdum. Great gameplanning by Werdum and…..
Holy FUCK
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
exactly, dont make excuses for your nuthuggery gone wrong...he got tapped by the first guy worth a fuck hes fought in years
the brockness monster grinds up teenagers and puts them in his protein shakes..and uses razor blades to chop toddlers up into lines to snort like meth...the reason no one can find bigfoot is because the brockness monster found him years ago and now has him in numerous ziplock bags in the back of his freezer...
by HellaHectic on Jun 27, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Woot Woot!!!!
Sorry guys, can’t stay here to chat, going out to dinner to celebrate!
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
and...
there goes everybody’s Fedor-Brock dream match
Fedor looked completely out of shape and for some reason uninterested in winning
i give a lot of props to Werdum though that submission was badass
I agree mate, didnt look the best shape.
Brock and Fedor will still happen because Carwin will Knock out Lesnar.
oh here go the excuses of the dick huggers "oh he was out of shape" hes always been a fatass
the brockness monster grinds up teenagers and puts them in his protein shakes..and uses razor blades to chop toddlers up into lines to snort like meth...the reason no one can find bigfoot is because the brockness monster found him years ago and now has him in numerous ziplock bags in the back of his freezer...
by HellaHectic on Jun 27, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
woah woah
i have never been a nut hugger of any fighter im just saying you can tell he was clearly out of shape but i give credit to Werdum again his submission was badass and he earned that win
I think Fedor is always pudgy, he just looked worst tonight than usual.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Lol @ this out of shape comments..
Conan : You are known as a striker. Is that correct? Tell me what that means.
Chuck : Well I like to punch people, or kick them.
how many times do you plan to call anyone supporting fedor a "dick or nut hugger"...grow the heck up, you were prob one that thinks the ufc is smart to have cut werdum, and SF has a weak HW division...yadda yadda fedor beat IN SF by a game opponent...
if fedor can take the loss, why cant you?
there are no excuses, but there is no reason for namecalling because people believe fedor wasnt in top shape….odds are he wasnt…
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
What are u talking about
he wasnt out of shape he was super fast befor he jumps right in 2 his guard.. so pls dont talk shit.. just watch how super fast he was in the first 5 punches
WOW just WOW . . . totally blown away!
Congrats Werdum on an amazing upset . . . there was only one way you were going to win and you did it. Now to beat Overeem . . . if you can :-)
Bigfoot vs Fedor
First thing I looked for after the tap was Finklefucks face.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
LoL I bet it was priceless, probably loading his gun with 1 bullet for himself.
I seen some Fedor RVCA fans in the crowd and they look like their mom just died or something.
I actually hate Fedor fans so much that I jumped out of my seat
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I hear you jay
I like Fedor but his fans for the msot part are ignorant and most never seen him fight in Pride they jsut go by stats LOL
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Brazil time
Werdum won and now we gonna win world cup
by Fabricio D Araujo on Jun 27, 2010 12:02 AM EDT reply actions
get some popcorn
and watch the show , Brazil 4 Chile 0
by Fabricio D Araujo on Jun 27, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
actually brazil gotta beat spain
ranked 1 and 2 debateable
SHOGUN SLAYED THE DRAGON! Hell Yeah
by Phenomenal Angel on Jun 27, 2010 5:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
fedor has sucked for a long time
his management team has just gotten him all the right fights at the right time. they fucked up HUGE with this one. BAHAHAHAHA
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
I'm going to start being the BE or KidNate of commenters, I'm just going to copy and paste your comments and say "I agree & Dana White sucks!"
SPEECHLESS!!
Fedor is still the greatest in my book. Hopefully this now motivates him to continue to fight the best!!
then your book is stupid and poorly written
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
I'm going to start being the BE or KidNate of commenters, I'm just going to copy and paste your comments and say "I agree & Dana White sucks!"
yeah, and to realistic for u!! stick to fairy tales!
get a clue !! Hes still the best and no one holds a better record
He's the best of all time. He's not STILL the best. His time has passed.
He was the best.
Get used to typing those four sentences and you will be OK.
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HA!
He probably colored in it, too.
by TheIlluminati on Jun 27, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dude
I get your a fan, but he just got owned by the only real competition he has had since Pride. A guy that got knocked out of the UFC by one of their up and comers. Werdum didnt just beat him. He owned him. He guided Fedor to where he wanted to go and as soon as they got to the ground Fedor was in trouble and couldnt keep up with Werdum’s submission attempts. Your book is the fairy tale. The fairy tale written my M1 on how to make a fighter appear unbeatable by avoiding real competition. Unfortunately this fairy tale does not have a happy ending because the big bad wolf of true competition caught up with Fedor. A fighter can only beat up so many cans, has beens and fighters from lower weight classes before the real competition catches up. That is what happened tonight. Fedor is just lucky this was not Overeem or worse yet any of the top 4 in the UFC. It would of been even more embarrasing.
Looks like I picked up some cash tonight on the Werdum fight. One of the only people I know who picked him to win.
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by helloGreenStar on Jun 27, 2010 12:04 AM EDT reply actions
You and me both my friend
Couldn’t pass up those odds
by _Haze_ on Jun 27, 2010 12:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yep I did the same...saw a trap and a chance to make some cash, didnt make me any less shocked
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
i bet tapout is happy their shirts didnt see market
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see this is proof that fedor hasnt been beating anyone worth a shit for years, he fights a decent guy and barely lasts a minute
his time is over…
the brockness monster grinds up teenagers and puts them in his protein shakes..and uses razor blades to chop toddlers up into lines to snort like meth...the reason no one can find bigfoot is because the brockness monster found him years ago and now has him in numerous ziplock bags in the back of his freezer...
True about the record
Accept for the random circus clown and middleweight on it. He has not been the same since Pride.
yeah, and to realistic for u!! stick to fairy tales!
get a clue !! Hes still the best and no one holds a better record
yea the best record at being a can crusher for the past several years
the brockness monster grinds up teenagers and puts them in his protein shakes..and uses razor blades to chop toddlers up into lines to snort like meth...the reason no one can find bigfoot is because the brockness monster found him years ago and now has him in numerous ziplock bags in the back of his freezer...
by HellaHectic on Jun 27, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
History In the Making
Its a story to be past down from generation to generation, and I get to tell my children I saw it live. I wonder what the future holds…
by Thunder Biscuit on Jun 27, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions
let me tell you the greatest story of my life….
and thats how you cut 100,000 people off a man’s nuts
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Great post Micah
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1200
By morning, easy.
800 from me
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i want to see how many times i can hit “bahahahaha” and “nana boo boo” in this post
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Faded
He has faded for a while, not competing at the highest level in any sport does that to anyone. He was the greatest back in PRIDE, no doubt, but that was a few years back and he has not been since. He simply would not be able to compete with the new breed of heavyweights today. His management has done a good job of shielding him from the best. It will be interesting to see where he goes from here.
he chose the level of competition he got. its how he padded his record, and added to his mystique. to many people wanted to slob on his knob and be blind to it though
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Very much agreed.
I just hope this shows people the truth. He is not a true heavyweight anymore. He could possibly diet down to middleweight with the belly he carried in both this fight and the one against Rogers. He would get smothered by either Lesnar or Carwin and simply would have no answer for the combination of size, speed, wrestling ability and strength from either of them.
First opponent of any quality in years
and Fedor gets schooled. I still think he is incredible but I have said it before and will say it again, he would get owned in the UFC. He was cornered into fighting Werdum after trying to duck Overeem in the form of M1 renegotiating with strikeforce and then settling with them as soon as they signed Overoom and Rogers.
His career has been smoke and mirrors ever since Pride. Lesnar, Carwin, JDS would all dominate him.
by ASR on Jun 27, 2010 12:08 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
exactly
His career has been smoke and mirrors ever since Pride
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Who the hell is Overoom?!
Sorry about the spelling mishap was watching it again on DVR as I was typing.
guys last fight was against a sam's club employee
the brockness monster grinds up teenagers and puts them in his protein shakes..and uses razor blades to chop toddlers up into lines to snort like meth...the reason no one can find bigfoot is because the brockness monster found him years ago and now has him in numerous ziplock bags in the back of his freezer...
Hella
It finally happened. People are going to have to open their eyes and see he was never that good
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Lets not get crazy now
In Pride yes he was that good.
But the competition in Pride and at that time was weak compared to what it is now and what it will be in the future
He will always be the best from that era. I believe(like in all sports) that the following generations of athletes is always exponentially better. This new era of fighters would handily destroy the past generation of great fighters. We see it in every single division. HW is just the last one to catch up.
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I get what your saying but
That is like saying that Gracie was overrated as the competition was no as good back then. Just sayin.
Not over rated. Just...
People and technique and everything evolves. If you put a prime Royce Gracie(one of the smallest and weakest gracies)against a prime GSPGSP wins 10 times out of 9.
The best baseball player when the game was started was a little old white haired guy. Times change.
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lol, and they said it enough you would have thought people would have called him out for it
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yea chuck liddell was the best lhw in the world 5 years ago too....but things change
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Dana should make Fedor earn a spot by competing on The Ultimate Fighter
I don’t know if he’d win it, though.
Fedor said he wanted to retire undefeated by doging the UFC
TOO LATE NOW!! go ahead and retire now.
dana whites reaction?
all he had on his twitter page was D
fedor is the greatest ever but he wont be ranked # 1 a week from now.
Winner of carwin/lesnar will be ranked #1 and deservedly so. Imo this makes overeem/werdum the next matchup and fedor will fight the winner after a long layoff. Can’t believe I canceled cable a month back.
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Clinch Gear
I wonder how Hendo and Tapout each feel now. One saved a lot and one spent a lot of cash…
Yesss I knew it, Just what I predicted, I put $15 on Werdum, the odds was just too sweet
by Knowledgereigns on Jun 27, 2010 12:15 AM EDT reply actions
wow
Werdum proved to night that Fedor was not invincible. He got caught as all fighters do, hope he will come back and be better than before. Overeem is gonna get his ass handed to him by Werdum. I would still like to see Lesnar VS Fedor think it would be good for the sport.
honestly, i really have no interest in watching fedor anymore. i dont care if he goes to the UFC or if he stays with strikeforce. he’s a sham and has been scamming fans and promotions for years. the guy is a theif and a crook
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YES!!!!
There u go Fedor nuthuggers he just lost to a UFC reject, yet u think he’d stand a chance against Brock or Carwin. Whether Fedor’s on the decline or not he isn’t the #1HW FOR SURE anymore due to lack of real competition and now a loss to a lesser opponent.
How the fuck do you like that Vlad(his manager)?
Ding Dong
The wicked witch is dead!
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
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yeah
Vlad lost out on a huge payday by pissing around with the level of competition he has been feeding Fedor….
by Matt Kriner on Jun 27, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
ufc will pay the license fee to show this fight
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They have it all over You-Tube right now
Dana’s taking the charges with a smile.
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It was a joke
I should have put a smiley face on it. Just saying Dana White will make it so everyone sees this fight
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a .gif might be good enough. it didnt last long
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A picture would work
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ufc 113
hey who won on on 113, oh that’s right it was a replay, who the hell was watching that when you could watch fedor get beat live.
dana white
“fucking fuck, why the fuck did we fucking counter fucking shitfarce? that fucking shit was fucking sweet!”
kid nate
“AH FUCK!”
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They should have been advertising this Strikeforce fight all week
Dana messed up counter-programming this time.
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he has been for some time. a small group of idiots with a large website wouldnt agree
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I Can't disagree
But I can make an argument for GSP but that would be from the viewpoint that I can’t stand Silva or his manager, although I think its a lot closer than people think. I also think head to head at 170 GSP wins. I can only pray Sonnen can back up his entertaining talk.
and a submission isn’t really a loss… it wasn’t a KO… werdum didn’t land any strikes…
blah blah blah
fedor lost and it was AWESOME!
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....he was so upset about the Tapout t-shirt deal falling apart....
….that this is all on Dana White.
by TheIlluminati on Jun 27, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Fedor destroys werdum 9/10 times
He got reckless trying to finish and paid the price.
Any one think its weird werdum said he wants a rematch, even before anyone mentioned it?
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does not matter if fedor would win 9/10 time
he still lost what a great day
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Joe Rogan
Seriously
He got owned. He got tricked to going to the ground and then looked like a very overmatched fighter. Stop watching his Randleman fight and realize that he is not what he has been built up to be. After watching his fight with Rogers tonight and then watching Werdum OWN him I can tell you this. He gets smashed 9 out of 10 times against Lesnar, Carwin or JDS.
He didn't land any of those.
Werdum was not rocked in any way shape or form. He was playing “Rope A Dope”.
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after paying closer attention after I was done screaming in joy I think your right.
FW baited Fedor
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy
I also think Fedor took the bait
due to him being out of shape. I think that if they rematch. FW should let Fedor chase him for two rounds then sub him in the 3rd. You cannot tell me that man is in shape to go three hard rounds.
Probably not
against today’s true heavyweights no, but not a ton of heavyweights are to be honest, just the top top ones. Fedor’s superior technique, mystique, and killer instinct is always what one him fights, not his diet, or superior training methods, or training camp or anything like that. He is old school from the old country plain and simple, and that’s one of the reasons he would struggle tremendously against Brock, Shane, JDS, etc.
Excellent point
I had not equated that his training methods have not evolved with MMA
Watch it again
I know you dont want to but you will see. Fedor got baited to the ground, that’s 1 mistake. Then gave up his arm, that is 2, then gave up the triangle, that is 3 and then tried to sit up out of the triangle instead of rotating out that is 4.
The real mistake he made was not avoiding the real competition like he has done since Pride……. oh that makes 5
I want sticking up for him at all..
Im stating the obvious, if he stays patient he KO’s werdum on the feet… Anyone going in recklessly like that against werdum is gonna get caught.
Im not a blind fan… but im not a blind hater either… Fedor is still a great fighter and from the looks of it will get a rematch and have his chance to prove he is the better fighter. Which i think he is.
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by Red Eye Jedi on Jun 27, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
God post.
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-Stephen King
He did get baited, but no rematch
Werdum is fighting OVereem now. Fedor won’t be fighting for SF two fights from now. So, unless they run into eachother in the UFC, we might never know if FEdor can beat Werdum.
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Overeem will beat Werdum. And then Fedor will beat Werdum in a rematch. And then Overeem will beat Fedor.
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You think Fedor sits around and waits for Werdum?
He’s gonna sign to fight another guy looking to make a big name off Fedor’s back and then leave SF or resign to fight Werdum.
Fedor will fight again before Werdum is ready. He won’t sit around after a loss like this if he has any competitive fire in him.
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I am sure M1 global
Is trying to contact Mark Coleman right now for Coleman/Fedor III. After all he fits Fedors usual winning model. He is a LHW, he is 45, his career has been seriously winding down, and he has a recognizable name so they can say it was a legitamate challenge.
One of you two fuckers is right. I just can't decide who yet.
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Something that just came to mind
I bet you they give him Lashley. He is a big name, big guy with a winning record, but very little skill. Someone Fedor could look good beating.
I think they know Fedor won't be around after this contract. They won't want to destroy the fake hype behind LAshley.
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Fedor will either retire or move to another Organization or SF will cease operations when his contract is up.
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ASR sure does have a huge boner for Fedor. What Fedor fan pissed you off this much, ASR?
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Jay and OJR
Jay – hadnt thougth of it that way. Why would they ruin all the hype over Lashley. Good point.
OJR – Sorry to seem so overzealous. I have just been saying for years that Fedor is overrated and avoids fighting real competition. I knew as soon as he fought someone of real consequence he would be exposed it just took a long time for him to get cornered into fighting a decent fighter.
Did it for you Pineknot
The Emperor has finally fallen, what a night, Werdum did it for you Pineknot, Im not a big fedor fan so it was nice to finally see him fall. Hats off to Jan Finney though, how she stood in there and kept getting killed showed a ton of heart and yes im commenting on womens MMMA
by See What Had Happend Was !!!! on Jun 27, 2010 12:26 AM EDT reply actions
just checked bloodyelbow, the comments are as i expected.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
he’s still the GOAT
fedor was a little chubby, he must have had a nagging injury
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Bruce Buffer called it!
Playing poker n bet players Werdum would submit Fedor… Collecting now… Wow, big win! No one is invincible, no one!!!
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by tap or snap bons on Jun 27, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions
cyborg
i know they say its not true but if she’s not a man she is at least roiding or something. she should fight men instead. i mean come on she destroyed that woman, they should have stopped it much earlier.
i’d pick her over fedor
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I'm disgusted by her fights
It looks like a dude beating up his wife in a parking lot. I just want to jump in there and say “hey man, what you hitting a woman for dogg?”. It grosses me out.
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i’m loving how excited everyone is. i think i’m going to have a cookout tomorrow to celebrate
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lmao
it happened on my birthday too! greatest gift ever.. I hate those nuthugging (expletive)
Conan : You are known as a striker. Is that correct? Tell me what that means.
Chuck : Well I like to punch people, or kick them.
cyborg
did you see the ref making sure she had a cup, very telling right there.
thats another story. that ref sucked. she should have stopped the fight. she shouldn’t have made cyborg let her opponent up, and on and on. she should never ref again
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he’s the N degree 14?
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dont expect him to lose again. they will tighten up their strategy on planning opponents better next time. fedor vs whitehead
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Im veryyy eager now to see what Dana will say and if this “struggle” to get him to the UFC matters anymore..
by Knowledgereigns on Jun 27, 2010 12:32 AM EDT reply actions
i can’t see him still wanting him. the big question has just been answered, and yes, fedor can be beaten. so no, dana won’t want a fighter on staff that will be as difficult to deal with.
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They won't even ask UFC for co-promotion this time
They will offer to pay Dana to take him. I wonder how that 2 million dollars a fight contract is tasting for Scott Coker right now. He has to give M1 half the money from a Fedor loss.
No problems for Fedor. He doesn’t have a contract that pays him more for winning. He gets half the house no matter how badly he does. I want M1 to manage me.
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HOLY SHIT!!!
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I actually think Fedor should be ranked higher on a P4P list than a HW list because he fights guys that are so much bigger than him. Bad ASS (AndersonSpiderSilva) is the most impressive fighter P4P to me right now because he can dabble in the LHW division and dominate those guys just as easily. But Fedor is/was top 5. However, unfortunately I don’t think he is top 5 HW anymore, and I think he may know it and that’s why he turned down 5million a fight in the UFC and rejected the Overeem fight in Strikeforce. I think Fabricio was requesting Fedor again because he wants nothing to do with Overeem. Now I want to see Overeem come to the UFC. I think he might be large enough to take care of JDS and Cain, and I think a fight with Carwin would be interesting. But Brock just looks like a different animal. I think that beast would take him down and pound him out.
? fedor can’t beat the #8 HW and ufc castoff… what are you talking about?
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Werdum beat him fair and square. What I’m saying is that I’m impressed that he fights so much bigger opponents.
You're correct Geoff
He won’t drop in the P4P too badly. He is still 20 pounds smaller than most of his opponents.
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Overeem would have been a scary fight for him. Their speed is about the same, but Overeem’s sheer size and power… would have probably been a good fight a couple years ago. M1 cost us some potentially amazing fights had he fought in the UFC during his prime. I hope the UFC doesn’t make the same mistake with GSP and Spider Silva. I feel like we’re wasting GSP in his prime waiting 8 months to watch him rematch Kos. And Spider fighting Chael…. it’s all about the hype. there’s so many more interesting fights for him at LHW.
bigger and lower quality, it’s like bj penn fighting chris leben, no one cares
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Exactly!.. His status has dropped tremendously now therefore his value has shot along with it.. i dont think he can be in such the driver seat and be so demanding as he was before but @ the same time I think he cherishes his legacy too much too know that if he goes to the ufc and loses, he will no longer be care for by the fans.. what u think?
by Knowledgereigns on Jun 27, 2010 12:37 AM EDT reply actions
i honestly have a hard time seeing strikeforce paying his salary and “copromoting” again. i think there will be a contract renegotiation before we see fedor fight again
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It might bother nuthuggers..
But those of us still fans even though he lost won’t mind. I still want him in the UFC. Tonight was amazing though. Fedor lost, no excuses. He’s done what he did today to other fighters and gotten away with it (wildly go into their guard). Not tonight. Today he got choked the hell out. I really like Fedor but man I hope M1 shits bricks after this.
someone told you santa wasn’t real and that fedor’s legacy was a myth? what a shitty christmas
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ps. i also like bacon, and rashad evans is a pussy
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Christmas mornig as being happy Fedor lost and the joy I feel right now
But what you said was funny
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy
i get up early in the morning. i’m staying up late to do some good ol fashioned fighter bashing and nut hugger mocking
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I dont dislike Fedor...Its his fans and huggers that think he is a God I hate
this is what fuels my joy
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy
Same
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Fedor is actually probably the most likable guy in the world
There is no reason to ever say anything bad about him.
But his fans have a huge “Go fuck yourselves” coming and I’m here to give it to them.
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Yea...I've never heard me talk smack....always we'll see what happenings in the fight...
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy
I was trying to figure that out
LOL
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I know..its late and I've been up since 6:30am and worked 10 hours today
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy
HAHAHA
yeah he genuinely seems likable and respectful, something DW could learn a but about to be honest. I love DW and what hes done for the sport and how down to earth he is, but still, trying to negotiate through the media with someone like Fedor, whose from the old country didn’t go down too well. At least that is how it appeared. I always will have nothing but love and respect for Fedor, but I am still glad he lost as I was sooo sick of his nuthugging fans
I'll agree with that..
I’m a huge fan, but I can’t say I ever thought he was invincible. This loss should have happened in the UFC, 3 years ago. Then he would be like any other legend in the sport today. People have put him on a pedestal so high its ridiculous. I already see nuthuggers in this thread talking about him retiring and losing fans. WTF? I think he should still come to the UFC.
did you know they fought top competition both before and after their losses? this is something fedor didnt and wont do
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
I'm going to start being the BE or KidNate of commenters, I'm just going to copy and paste your comments and say "I agree & Dana White sucks!"
And after those losses none of those obviously better fighters were ranked first in the world
Or thought of as unstoppable. We are just here for the same treatment.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
got me there....I only speak English and know sign language
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy
Rankings
according to fightmagazine here are the top 10 heavies, lets put them in a 1 night tourney and see who wins and is the best that is how Pride and the Old UFC use to do
1. Cain Velasquez 2. Fedor Emelianenko 3. Brock Lesnar 4. Fabricio Werdum 5 .Shane Carwin 6. Alistair Overeem 7. Josh Barnett 8. Junior dos Santos 9. Antonio Silva 10.Roy Nelson
Put it on ppv have it sponsored by all companies and lets get it on…..
Rankings
according to fightmagazine here are the top 10 heavies, lets put them in a 1 night tourney and see who wins and is the best that is how Pride and the Old UFC use to do
1. Cain Velasquez 2. Fedor Emelianenko 3. Brock Lesnar 4. Fabricio Werdum 5 .Shane Carwin 6. Alistair Overeem 7. Josh Barnett 8. Junior dos Santos 9. Antonio Silva 10.Roy Nelson
Put it on ppv have it sponsored by all companies and lets get it on…..
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Yeah me too wanted to see overeem get knocked out like Lidell did to him several years ago in pride
Moving on--
Finney, to her credit, was able to hang on and run out the clock in a defensive strategy that I believe is referred to as “not dying.”
The second round played out much like the first. Santos laughed off a few jabs and proceeded to go apeshit in the clinch. Finally, mercifully, Finney was spared another full round of abuse.
Apparently between rounds someone must have informed Winslow it wasn’t a fight to the death.
Pure awesomeness. I almost fell out of my chair when I read that. Not only was ref Kim Winslow extremely annoying to watch, and despite her attempt to appear excessively thorough,professional, girlscout…or errrr whatever the hell impression she was trying to make, i personally think that fight was stopped 5 minutes too late.
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As for Fedor, I think we can all move on now and stop caring about the what ifs. All we needed to know was that he was indeed human, and I think tonight he proved to be a vulnerable one at that. The guy is awesome to watch, and he’s a fantastic fighter, but the titles of #1 p4p, or greatest HW ever, always have been and still remain absolutely ludicrous. If you cannot accept this fact, here’s a list of people he’s fought in the last 5 years while being called mma god:
Loss – Wedrum (Cut by UFC)
Win – Brett Rogers (Not top 10)
Win – Arlovski (Cut by UFC, Not top 10)… See More
Win – Tim Sylvia (Cut by UFC, horrible)
Win – Hong Man Choi (Freak show)
Win – Lindland
Win – Mark Hunt
Win – Mark Coleman
Win – Wagner da Conceicao Martins
Win – Crocop
Werdum was his most legit opponent. Regardless of whether or not he was shafted by the UFC in being cut, his resume was not the most impressive even before tonight anyway. Most sites have him between 9-13 in top HWs in the world. That consensus ranking makes him more of a gate keeper than a true contender. While I’m not trying to take anything away from his amazing win. But it just really shows how Fedor matches up with someone in the current top15 (That’s right I said 15) in the world. Crocop at the time 2005 would probably be the only exception to that, since they were both in their prime.
Great post
To give it even more prospective. The fight before Lindland fought Fedor he fought Carlos Newton. Lindland jumped up two weight classes to fight Fedor. When Coleman fought Fedor he was 39 years old, weighed 224. Mark Hunt was basically a kickboxer whose only claim to fame was beating Wanderlei who he outweighted dramatically an CroCop which was a kickboxing match not an MMA fight. Martins is a 390 circus freak who had 3 pro fights before Fedor all with guys that had only fought once or twice. Hardly what the greatest ever should be fighting. His record stands at 7-6.
Just as have been saying for years. It is smoke and mirrors. He is not the greatest fighter of all time. His camp is the greatest of all time at selling that notion to a lot of people who for some reason just believe it, and the greatest of all time at ducking real competition.
He did beat cro cop who weighed in at 235 small by today’s standards and couldnt put him away it went to decision.
Both Sylvia and Arlovski would get crushed even if they were at their very best by the HW division in the UFC or by Overeem who belongs in the UFC.
You can put Randleman in there also who is a light heavyweight.
Fedor is a great fighter he did beat NOG back in 2004, but Fedor has been really overrated in the last 4 to 5 years. Werdum showed everyone how to beat him. Do not chase him and take the chance of getting KOed with counterpunching. Just let him come to you and capitalize.
If Fedor does not retire and fights again, if he fights anyone from the top 10 HW in the world he will lose again. His biggest weapon is gone. That mentally intimidating mistique has been exposed as simple slight of hand.
I have no problem with a female ref, but I really dislike that winslow woman...
also, cyborg fight…I sort of felt that in the 2nd, where cyborg had finney against the cage, you might as well call it, she was trying to hide…hide…just kept waiting for her to stand a bit longer and lose already, drove me nuts….then she had to avoid hits to the head, and it turned into duck and cover.
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
The Cyborg fight was bad for the sport
It showed a woman being beaten on by a woman who looks like a man for wayyyy too long. That fight should of been over in the 1st
I thought...This ref is gonna wait until Cyborg kills her. That should look really great on TV.
It only takes one idiot like that bitch referee to kill this sport.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Seriously
Intelligently defending yourself is not grabbing your opponents ankle, turtling up and taking a beating. Fight should of been over half way through the first.
Just to prove I am not jumping on a bandwagon here are some of my old Fedor posts. I have been sayin he is overrated for years.
Real deal is Rogers is hand picked to be a big guy that Fedor who is incredible will own. That way M1 can then say that he has beaten someone Lesnar’s size to try to save face from what looked to be Fedor avoiding real better competition in the UFC. The HW division throughout the world is very very weak. I never even count Barnett or Overeem as these two cannot or could not pass drug tests. Rogers is overrated just as Carwin is. Beating up a bunch of nobodies does not make you top 10 material.
by ASR on Oct 31, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I think your right, I do not think Lesnar will fight nearly 30 times. The difference is he was fighting Ex UFC champs by his second fight. Fedor had 12 fights before he fought anyone good(NOG). Just sayin
by ASR on Oct 12, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Best fighter in the history of the sport!!?!?!?!?!??? That is quite the stretch don’t you think. To be the best ever there can be no question on your record. While Fedor’s record is incredible it is not the record of the best ever! Lets take a look shall we. Going backwards
AA – apparently can get knocked out by anyone.
Silvia – Moves very slowly and was fed cans including AA for a long time in the UFC.
Hong-Man Choi – Only had one MMA fight before Fedor to a guy that only had 3 previous fights and lost one of them.
Matt Lindland – is a middleweight.
Mark Hunt – beat Cro Cop and Wanderlai early in his career just by size, but has shown to be a complete can since then loosing the fight before Fedor to Barnett in 2 minutes. Fedor took 8 to beat him. Then he went on to lose to Overeem, Manhoef and Moussai in under a minute in a half.)Manhoef in 18 seconds.
Mark Coleman – was 41 years old and weighted 205
Zuluzinho – is a big fat cirus can.
Cro Cop – Is very one dimensional and got his ass mopped in the UFC first time around. Then wins by eye poke in his first fight back.
Tsuyoshi Kohsaka – total can! Technically Fedor’s only loss but that was due to paper cut and some crazy rule. Doesn’t change the fact that this guy has beaten nobody of any importance.
NOG – Fedor’s toughest opponent by far and the only person who was relevant when he fought him.
NOG – No contest on a head butt.
Naoya Ogawa – can and hasn’t beaten anyone of any relevance besides Goodridge.
Kevin Randleman – is a decent LHW but he is still a LHW and does not have an extremely impressive record.
Mark Coleman – Was 40 and weighed 205 at the time.
Yuji Nagata – is a pro wrestler who has only fought twice in MMA and lost miserably to Fedor and lost worse to Cro Cop
Gary Goodridge – I know this will piss some people off but has beaten no-one of any relevance ever.
Kazuyuki Fujita – has only ever beaten Ken Shamrock other than that he has also beaten no one of any relevance
Egidijus Valavicius – weighs 200 and is a LHW.
NOG – again the only person who really makes his career mean anything
Heath Herring – this may upset a few people but is an average fighter and has really beaten nobody but Kongo.
Semmy Schilt – has not beaten anyone of any relevance ever.
Chris Haseman – has lost to everyone of importance even to Matt Hughes and Jeremy Horn. He weights 200 with rocks in his pockets.
Lee Hasdell – has a record of 15 wins and 17 losses and weights 205.
Ryushi Yanagisawa – has a record of 24-23-9 and has beaten nobody. He is a total can
Renato Sobral – is a great fighter but again is a LHW that could even fight at 185.
Kerry Schall – has beaten nobody thus a can
Mihail Apostolov – has only one MMA fight and it was a loss to Fedor.
Tsuyoshi Kohsaka – this was Fedors only loss and it was due to rules that any blood stopped the fight. This is Kohsaka’s only victory of any relevance and it was due to a cut that was barely noticable.
Ricardo Arona – is a pretty good LHW but he is a LHW weighing in at 205
Hiroya Takada – only fought four MMA fights and lost 3 of them.
levon Lagvilava – only had two professional fights and lost both of them.
Martin Lazarov – only had two fights and lost both.
So really the best heavyweight ever? He needs to fight heavyweights in order for us to know.
by ASR on Aug 16, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
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