Vadim Finkelchtein: UFC threatened TapouT with lifetime ban over Fedor shirts
Props: BJ Penn.com (via Bloody Elbow)
Quoteworthy:
"I'm afraid to disappoint the fans, but it seems like, never. Literally today they called me from the TAPOUT firm and told me that they were contacted by the representatives of the UFC, and that under the threat of tearing up all the contracts with their organization demanded that TAPOUT categorically stop producing all the shirts from the line of Fedor Emelianenko. This is how Dana White feels about Fedor. So tell me, what can we think about such person after this, that even in things that have nothing to do with UFC, he still tries to mess it up for us. So it seems that the shirts will just stay a rarity that fans will see in pictures. Say thanks to UFC and their politics of monopoly."
Co-owner and President of M-1 Global Vadim Finkelchtein accuses the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) of blocking a potential deal between Fedor Emelianenko and TapouT, the world's most recognizable brand of mixed martial arts apparel and merchandise. TapouT produced a Fedor shirt that will probably never see the light of day under threat of a lifetime ban from the UFC. Is this just business 101? Or a slap in the face to a company that helps provide for many of today's (and yesterday's) top fighters?
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Fecal-stain can suck a fart out of my ass
That guy is as crooked as they come and is the last one who should be commenting on someone else’s business practices.

dont forget
tapout has the ufc to thank for making their business successful as well. if it wasnt for them tapout would still be selling their ugly shirts out of the back of cars still. is it me or does fedor and finklestien seem to be using the media bigtime lately to slam the ufc amerikans? war is a bitch eh.
Sure
Why talk about a fight that was set up for him to win? There’s no story there. Fucking Britanny Spears of MMA, outside of the media, no one cares anymore, just talks and does stupid shit so people will remember them
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
So let me get this straight : IF the UFC pulls something like this - its just business. IF M1 pulls something like this - Fedor is a pussy and his cronies are crooks, right? You posters make me laugh!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The two situations are nothing alike.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Yes they are, Jay. Its called hardball business practices. Same shit, different intestine.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
If the UFC had made Tapout print their Fedor shirts saying
Tapout and UFC present
Fedor
Then it would be the same. The UFC doesn’t want Tapout taking the profits they make/made with the UFC and putting it into starting a Fedor line. Nothing wrong with that. If the UFC had said “I want half the profits from all Fedor shirts”, then it would be the same.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Jay - details do not matter. TapOut is a 3rd party. UFC is using coercion to bump off M1. I have no problem with that. Just don't turn around and bash M1 for doing the same type of business practices. That's all.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
They aren't really similar IMO
M1 wants a lot of money for doing nothing in their situation, and the UFC doesn’t want to give away any of their money for no reason in their situation. Totally different scenarios here.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
my 2 cents
seems shady to me, but goes to show the real power that the UFC has. Tapout is supposedly growing by 300% a year yet they will bow down to the UFC in an instant. Right or wrong, I can tell you one thing, I wish I had that kinda power!
oh and by the way
he’s doing the same thing to them that they are doing to him. It’s basically who can fuck who more and worse!
by kevjack115 on Jun 26, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's right. If I helped make a sponsor I wouldn't want them promoting the competition either.
This helps put the squeeze on Fedor to go to the UFC. You want to make money, go fight good fighters.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Funny thing is I never wanted a Tapout shirt before
But now I might want one just because of this mess and it will be limited!!!
Then again on second thought Hendo line Clinch Gear has a Fedor line so maybe I will get my shirt there.
Hendo is less douchy than Tapout.
Nobody makes me bleed my on own blood!
by WarriorSaint on Jun 26, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
the thing about this is it’s not even about money it’s just Dana being fucking vindictive. Tapout isn;t your fucking company, Dana, and them selling a few fedor shirts certainly isn’t hurting the UFC.
but
it’s hurting M-1 and they are hurting Dana by not giving in. It’s a brilliant move on Dana’s part, like it or not, he’s just showing he’s in control. watch him buy SF when Fedor’s contract is up just so he has no one to fight!
He is definitely putting the pressure on them now.
He wants them gone, obviously.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
he's gonna buy out SF
mark my words, he wanted pride, he got it, he wants Fedor, whats a few million bucks and a new stable of fighters
If I was DW - I would do the same thing! All is fair, you have to do what you can to crush your comp. Just don't get upset at M1 for doing the same stuff. Its really that simple!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Not the same move in my mind.
But agree to disagree.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
That's because you hate Fedor's cronies! LOL. I don't care anyway as M1 or DW will NOT be sending me a check for my loyalty.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You guys are just a bunch of week-end posters!

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
Good pic, Yan. I like pussy! :)
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Agree with Yan!
You guys are just a bunch of noobs!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Yea it's the weekend, I'm at work
And I’ll be here tomorrow! YAY! ….. wait a sec..
"The other shape,
If shape it might be call'd, that shape had none,
Distinguishable in member, joint, or limb;
Or substance might be call'd that shadow seem'd;
For each seem'd either; black it stood as night,
Fierce as ten furies, terrible as Hell,
And shook a dreadful dart; what seem'd his head
The likeness of a kingly crown had on.
Satan was now at hand; and from his seat
The monster, moving onward, came as fast
With horrid strides; Hell trembled as he strode."
-- John Milton
by O damn he got caught on Jun 26, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Where you been?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Here in this office chair.. or purgatory..
Being purged of all evil, before I can move on to a real weekend someday.
"The other shape,
If shape it might be call'd, that shape had none,
Distinguishable in member, joint, or limb;
Or substance might be call'd that shadow seem'd;
For each seem'd either; black it stood as night,
Fierce as ten furies, terrible as Hell,
And shook a dreadful dart; what seem'd his head
The likeness of a kingly crown had on.
Satan was now at hand; and from his seat
The monster, moving onward, came as fast
With horrid strides; Hell trembled as he strode."
-- John Milton
by O damn he got caught on Jun 26, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, man. Just make sure you save up all that $$$ for the Mania trip in 2011.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Toronto would be awesome but who knows when (or if) that will happen?
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
Vegas seems to be the most popular request.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I think Vegas would be a blast!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Me, too. Especially if most of the regulars can make it.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Do they have hookers in Vegas?
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
Never been there but I heard that it is legal. Single guys might have a heathen's paradise.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I wasn't expecting you guys to take that question seriously.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
I'm gonna have to start using those winky faces again;)
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
Any of the brothels have women who look like Vida Guerra? You guys might find my corpse after 3 days of debauchery...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Dam ojr I can't belive U of all people never been 2 Vegas !
I don’t know if U shud go bro U might never leave =D
by d*locc on Jun 26, 2010 2:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know, right? I am not into gambling so I never thought about it. But I heard its alot more now so I am down.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
can i come to vegas too? i have $$$ i just spent $700 on 10th row floor seat for UFC 118
by Jared DeMarino on Jun 26, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course you can. All Maniacs are welcome. Look for a fanpost in late 2010 or early 2011.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Newbies pay the first round of beers.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
LOL. Noobs also pay for 1st lap dance.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I'm no noob. Just don't post too much. Last time i posted you guys almost murdered me and made me love FEDOR
by Jared DeMarino on Jun 26, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL. I know, dude. You are the Wolvie vs. Batman guy. Its all good.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
But damn, none of y'all drink!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
I drink mixed drinks. Rum and coke for me.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
nice pussy.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Fedor: He once had an awkward moment in the cage, just to see what it feels like. Sharks have a week dedicated to him. He would show his feminine side if he had one. He is a lover, not a fighter, but don't get any ideas. He is the most important man in the world. Stay thirsty my comrades b/c i will never fight in the UFC. Sorry Fedor but in America Budweiser is the King of beers and Lesnar is a clydesdale while Fedor is just a mule. Beating Werdum proves nothing. Beat Lesnar, Carwin. JDS, Velasquez or Overeem and i'll be impressed. Just one of them.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 26, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree with OJR
Shadiness is a two way street, can’t believe only M-1 is capable of it.
Its hard for me to feel one way or the other because they are paying me nada for my consumer loyalty.
Nobody makes me bleed my on own blood!
by WarriorSaint on Jun 26, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
kev dana would never buy SF for him to buy something it has to be an investment and it wouldnt be it would be a waste of money to try and get some dude who is scared to fight the best, he had his chance when pride was bought, then when affliction went under and now when his SF contract is up he doesnt wanna do it he shows more and more each year hes a chicken and ducks the real shows
people need to quit defending him because everyone else came over and put there money where there mouth was and fought the best 3 strikes you’re out
by randy murders on Jun 26, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
What overpaying for PRIDE?
Pride was set to go out of business anyway and the UFC basically spent millions to own the contracts of fighters that they could have gotten anyway my waiting. Quit looking at UFC/SF as competition instead view it as variety.
My legend precedes me like lighting precedes thunder.
It is variety to us. It is competition to Dana.
It doesn’t matter what we think.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
UFC, SF, Bellator they all market to us. So you know they have a marketing firm to gauge what the public wants.
My legend precedes me like lighting precedes thunder.
If SF and Bellator knew what the people wanted they would close their doors
Competition and multiple promotions does not work in the fight game.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
You don't think.....
eliminating the competition is an investment?
by The real Philo on Jun 26, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
But it would be helping Fedor
Why help Fedor? Fuck him
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
that’s fucking stupid. He’s not your enemy in capitalism you’re supposed to do as well for yourself as possible. Considerations of wanting to fuck over someone if it has no effect on your own bottom lines are not legitimate business decisions they are just personal vendettas, so long as the person you’re fucking
in fact the UFC screwing Fedor/tapout like this for no reason is decidedly BAD for the UFC from a business perspective. It means that they will never, ever be able to sign Fedor (not that it was super likely, but not beyond the realm of possibility) and make money off of him.
I agree but DW obviously had his mind made up that he was not getting Fedor, hence this power play on his part.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I think Dana has succumb to the fact he'll never sign Fedor, so he'll try to crush him
I agree with OJR, business is cut throat. I owned a landscape design business, I had a competitor. I knew to the penny what he would bid on jobs, and I had a better portfolio than he did, I’d go in and bid 5 bucks less with better pictures/plans just to get the work. Was it ethical for me to know and under bid every job? Nope, but I would just trim something somewhere and make money, he went out of business!
Yup. This is the way American businesses are usually ran. You win by establishing a monopoly.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
you guys realize it's a beautiful sunday morning/afternoon
why r u on mania?
did you guys see that amateur hour weigh in last night? it was so bad I kept watching to see what was going to happen next
Today's Sunday already?
Who won that Fedor fight, I missed it? LOL
It’s raining here.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I missed the weigh ins
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
my wife's cousins 9 yr old
has a boxing match today in oakland. Im going only to hopefully chat up andre ward, he should be there and is really cool, and spars with the Diaz’s and my wife’s cousin. my wife is on a Rampage today, on a 5 mile run, hopefully comes home in a good mood
Shower with her after her run and be sure to put her in a good mood, buddy.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
yeah, thats the plan.
I’m out, meeting her at the park so me and my son can toss the baseball around for a while. I went bowling yest, my ass/thighs are so sore from doing something I rarely do it’s pathetic
I am waiting for a delivery then I am going downtown to the Taste of Chicago.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
flip side really quick
Tapout sponsors EVERYONE, why not be a man (men) say fuck you to the UFC, put the shirts out and see how loyal the fighters are. Believe it or not, Tapout has been around before Dana, and are supposedly worth almost a billion dollars (exaggerated) so stand up for ur beliefs, I thought thats what the bad ass tapout crew was built on, Just saying
Dana then bans Tapout from the UFC
Tapout loses 80% of their guys.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
maybe, maybe not
maybe the fighters (tapout sponsors everyone) says no, we r gonna still wear it. it only takes a few to have the rest follow. Randy with affliction is a good example!
Exactly, Jay. Kevin has a point but that is what will happen. Besides why risk that much for a fighter that is not marketable to the casual MMA fan? Good move by TapOut.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Risk vs. reward for TapOut. Too much risk - not enough reward.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Maybe instead of buying a Fedor shirt...
….someone over at TapOut ends up buying a shirt for a UFC fighter instead. That’s helping his own brand.
by TheIlluminati on Jun 26, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
If you're not on the UFC payroll, you're brainwashed.
If you would have been in Germany during Hitler’s days, you would’ve been a follower of his.
My legend precedes me like lighting precedes thunder.
Make sense so I can talk to you.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
welcome to america boys
i’m sure nothing like this happen in russia. if i were the ufc i would block every money making opportunity for fedor and his handlers.another thing i want to make clear is who says fedor does not care about money. for all we know since he does associate and does business with his handlers he could be the one pulling the strings.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Fedor: He once had an awkward moment in the cage, just to see what it feels like. Sharks have a week dedicated to him. He would show his feminine side if he had one. He is a lover, not a fighter, but don't get any ideas. He is the most important man in the world. Stay thirsty my comrades b/c i will never fight in the UFC. Sorry Fedor but in America Budweiser is the King of beers and Lesnar is a clydesdale while Fedor is just a mule. Beating Werdum proves nothing. Beat Lesnar, Carwin. JDS, Velasquez or Overeem and i'll be impressed. Just one of them. College Football is still the best sport out there.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 26, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not fun dealing with an unreasonable asshole, is it Finkelchtein?
by Jared1984 on Jun 26, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I wouldnt trust anything Vladim has to say...
i wana hear Dana’s side of this story before i decide to actually form an opinion about this… but if its true then thats a bit fucked up
I think there's more to this than what he's saying
your not gonna get the full story from a twat like this he’s just trying to throw some shit cause he knows Fedor is considering going to the UFC & without Fedor M-1 global is M-1 Russia cause that’s the only country that’ll give shit about them
That's just Dana or whoever being an a-hole
That is not business thats the UFC trying to monopolize (?) everything. One shirt is not going to hurt the UFC . They just want to be the only one. Dana says that Strikeforce is bush league but the counter-program that is just being an a-hole or being afraid
Actually...
It is business… A LOT of business do the same sort of shit… Any sponsor who tries to sponsor a rival will get the same threat no matter the business.
Ok it's business but.....
How many Fedor shirts can they sale? That’s just the big dog pissing on the little dog. That shirt doest hurt the UFC at any level. The only one getting really hurt by this is TapouT
And Fedor and M1. They are also being hurt. Fedor would have received a cut from every tapout shirt with his name on it.
I agree 100% with Dana. This is a good move on his part.
You want to keep running from the UFC, then stop trying to make money with one of their biggest sponsors.
Bravo Dana Bravo. Put these bastards in a corner!
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Just like the Affliction T shirts
When Affliction was running the UFC didn’t want clothing that also was supporting the competition. You guys have to realize that Fedor and some of the other SF fighters are the competition and Dana wether he’s the big dog or small dog has every right to say he doesn’t want to support a clothing line that helps the competition.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Yeah, he didn't say Tapout couldn't make the Fedor shirts.
He drew a line in the sand. You’re either with the UFC or against them.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Let’s wait Dana’s words. I believe Finkelchtein wouldn’t invent this news. Actually this is business war. Everything is fair in a war, guys. Dana promotes UFC not MMA. Keep it in mind.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
And Finklefart is M1 or No one
I really dont believe this. I would like to hear it from the Tapout guys.
The Pain Train's in full steam ! ABM's look out.
I Believe It
and I support it. Tapout owes everything to the UFC, without the UFC no one would give 2 shits for Tapout.
The enemy of my friend is my enemy. That seems totally reasonable.
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
Youre no different
Call me a nuthugger but you are the one pulling your thong up your ass because you dont have any new Fedor shirts to jack-off into
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
Usually I like to disagree with JasonFahQ, because he is (self-admittedly a UFC nuthugger) but he's right here.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I never thank Jay because he is my nemesis
But thanks Jay.
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
LOL
Even two guys who hate to agree with each other know this is a smart move by Dana. I would do the exact same thing, but I would have done it earlier. I’d also start putting pressure on anyone else thinking of sponsoring Fedor or any SF fighter UFC wants.
I know it seems mean or heavy handed, but business is business.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
U guys are both morons
Its just a shirt? is it really going to make or break tapout or Fedor. Fedor still makes his money while u two homos circle jerk with Dana in the middle!
I <3 Rashad Evans
by The real ZACK on Jun 26, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Zack, c'mon. First of all, you can take the sig down, you've done well youngster.
Second of all. This is a sponsor helping Fedor stay out of the UFC. Dana wasn’t able to talk sense into Fedor because Fedor can make a boat load of money without them. Well now the UFC is trying to make it so he can’t make a living without them. It is hardball tactics but what else can they do? They’ve tried everything to make Fedor go there. This is just good business and I finally agree with something Dana does.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I never wanted to buy any type of tapout t-shirts,
but now I’m thinking I’d like to have that Fedor shirt. Weird.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
It is pretty nice.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
How will Fedor vs Werdum unfold jay?
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
Same way as Fedor/AA
Werdum will come out and look like the better fighter only to get hit with one of those ugly brawling hooks. After the hook, Werdum loses all confidence and probably gets Ko’d, maybe tapped out after strikes.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I agree. If Werdum is smart he leg kicks Fedor all day and escapes with a decision victory. Like Jardine vs. Chuck.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You think that could work? Werdum isn't fast enough
It worked for Forrest over Page, Jardine over Chuck and Edgar over BJ because they were all faster than their opponents. I don’t think that gameplan would work here.
Notice how when a fighter has really nothing to offer his opponent it seems like leg kicks and running around seem to be the only game plan we can come up for him. You know you’re screwed when your best game plan involves leg kicks and running away. lol
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I disagree. That is his best shot. Take away Fedor's legs and slow him down. Pepper him with your superior length and height. You have to win ugly.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I think his best shot is using his strength.
I doubt he has it in him to avoid a big shot from Fedor for 15 minutes with that plan. He needs to get this fight on the ground and win with a sub or LNP.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
lol
theres still affliction fedor shirts
SHOGUN SLAYED THE DRAGON! Hell Yeah
by Phenomenal Angel on Jun 26, 2010 12:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dana Promotes UFC
Tapout promotes MMA, not the UFC…If this is true, I think Dana is not being fair to the Tapout guys, and I don’t see him screwing them over. Smells like somethings up.
i agree
something fishy here
SHOGUN SLAYED THE DRAGON! Hell Yeah
by Phenomenal Angel on Jun 26, 2010 12:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's called business and Dana like it or not has every right to tell a clothing line that he won't support it if they support the competition
I think Finkledink is getting what he deserves, I hate M1 so I’m happy Dana is pissing them off
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Can you say extortion?
Kind of a dick move involving the guys that have been with the UFC since the beginning, at least since Zuffa (Dana using his friends money) has owned it anyway.
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
Don't Use Words You Don't Know How to Use
Extortion is demanding money in a blackmail attempt with the person being “extorted” being threatened that they will be reported for something the did wrong.
Not even close. 2nd, you talk about Dana’s “frineds” money. Can you do me a favor a list all of the companies that started without any investment from other partners? Use your brain kid.
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
Sorry
I should have said coercion.
And yeah, without his rich investor friends money the UFC wouldn’t be where it is today. Without them he’d still be running like a bitch from the wise guys in Boston. Dude seems to have forgotten where he came from in a way.
@fjbar on twitter...formerly El Mexicutioner
It's easy to critize
But Im sure if you went from average Joe to the president of the fastest growing sport in the US, you may be a little different too.
It’s called being human. Dana White isn’t anyone special, he eats, breathes, changes his mind and takes a shit everyday just like you. It’s easy to say how he SHOULD act when you have never had to walk in his shoes.
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
Thanks
That response shows
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
Yeah Dana haters are more like WWE fans they jsut want to hate the boss
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
And DW lovers are just as bad. They just want to excuse everything the UFC does. I prefer objectivity.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Is there any DW lovers?
I agree and disagree with him based on each move. Sometimes I agree with him sometimes I don’t. Guys like Worby and Introvert will always find a way to disagree with him just to call people UFC nuthuggers. I already knew Worby would say what he had to say before he woke up this morning.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Yes, there are plenty of DW lovers who will defend him blindly without looking at the facts involved.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I don't know any.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Jason FahQ is the only one I've ever seen.
Why would anyone like Dana White? He’s nobody.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
They come out in full force on a DW thread.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I respect Dana but I don't always agree with him
Is he in the wrong regardless if it was Dana or the UFC as a whole the answer is no. It’s called business what he is doing anyone that works in a company that has competition see’s this all the time. In ourt company we try not and sell products that the competition sells and if the product is given to the competition we have threatened to take it off our line. UFC is not the only company doing this any player NIke signes is not allowed to wear the competions clothing same goes with Tap Out and the UFC agreement
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Business may be business, but............
If this is in fact true, it would be pretty F’d up of Dana to threaten TapouT! Otherwise, screw the Fink! He’s just worried his one-trick-pony may either slip from his grass, or, prove to be getting a little past his prime! In which case, he may lose to today’s top competition! That said, I am a huge fan of Fedor and wish he could come to the UFC!
by Danas A Crossdresser on Jun 26, 2010 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
Seems like business to me
Sure, maybe a crummy move by Dana but that’s business. M1 wants a piece of the pie, and he wants to make sure they don’t get it, by whatever means necessary.
And no, Vadim, Dana doesn’t “feel” that way about Fedor. He hates you and your buddies. Despite all the crap he talks about Fedor, you and I both know if he signed him, Fedor would be a God in his eyes by the next day.
I like this move because it pisses M1 off. I hope they know what they are dealing with when they try to meddle in anything even attached to the UFC.
I hate this move because, as usual with M1 and the UFC, the fans get screwed. I just hope if this is true, that they don’t ban ALL tapout shirts for every UFC fighter. Seems extreme and I don’t think Dana would want that. I think he just wants Fedor, while under the banner of M1 and strikeforce, to not have any success.
how does this screw the fans?
its not like fedor wont be fighting now, he just has to wear a different shirt now. or do you mean its one less shirt some wannabe tough guy trailer trash can buy for $80?
If the UFC bans Tapout for every fighter
Quote:
“tearing up all the contracts with their organization”
Not just Fedor T-Shirts. This would affect those who wear shirts, tapout as a company, and the fighters. The UFC canceling ALL contracts is a huge deal. I don’t care about who wears the shirt and what you think of people who do. That’s not what’s being discussed.
behind one business is another waiting to take over
if the were to tear up the contracts, both silverstar and affliction would be right there. its capitalism. and dont forget, affliction was banned once too, it hurt no one. once they affliction came back to the darkside all was well again
FUCK DANA WHITE
How does this help the fans? ALL U UFC FANBOYS It just a fuckin shirt!
All u UFC nuthuggers on here make me sick
I <3 Rashad Evans
Its not Just a Shirt
It’s an advertisement. One Fedor isn’t going to have anymore lol
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
And people wonder why Fedor doesn't like the UFC
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
by Johnny WF on Jun 26, 2010 12:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Considering all the back and forth..
between M1 and the UFC these past few years, I’m not surprised. I don’t see this as personal. Just business. It’s not like if Fedor signed with the UFC, they would still pull this crap and screw him over. Fedor’s with a company who thinks it can compete with the UFC in the U.S market. This is part of bumping heads with a company as big as the UFC while you are a company no one’s heard of.
Politics of Monopoly?
Russia has never seen anything like that. . .Rrrrright ex-KGB operative and now ruler of Russia Comrade Putin? LOL.
Dana White is only good at brainwashing little kids....
It’s not “crazy Russians” that are stopping Fedor from getting to the UFC, it’s “crazy Jew” Dana White. Nuff said.
The guy trying to force him into a contract is stopping said contract?
I don’t get it.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
lol
all that money and immediate title shot talk before was just crazy… why would anyone want to accept a contract like that?
it is crazy
whod want to step in the cage and face brock? then again for 2 to 5 million dollars per fight id let brock smash as many times as they would let me
I'm mid 30's
when do I get to stop being a little kid?
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
same age as me so
youre in the same boat as me. when we stop hugging danas nuts and think for ourselves we will grow up
If your grown up you would realize nuthuggin is a term used by the ignorant
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Zuffa also has employees
That go on MMA forums/news sites/articles to comment about how great the UFC is…Its guerilla marketing at its finest.
A lot of the most outrageous pro UFC in any circumstance people are actually paid employees
Stay thirsty my friends
by Bob Lawblah on Jun 26, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Love the UFC apologists on the net...When Dana does something shady
Everybody says “it’s just business”.
When Fedor’s management wants to co promote (you know, part of doing business) ppl call Fedor a coward.
Some of you guys are just pathetic.
no one says hes a coward because of co promoting
they say any organization is stupid to sign fedor to co promote because its bad business sense to do so. do all the work and give a chunk of money to M1. ask bodog/affliction if it makes sense.
Guys like olegb piss me off.
Who said Fedor was a coward? Don’t make shit up. I haven’t seen anyone say Fedor was a coward for not going to the UFC. He’s a robot for not having his own thoughts. I’ve never heard anything about ANY other fighters manangement team. Who manages GSP, Brock, BJ, Frankie Edgar, Randy Couture, Chuck Liddell??? Who manages these people? I’m sick of hearing about what M1 wants, I shouldn’t have to hear about M1 at all.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
A lot of people
have called fedor a coward for not coming to the UFC. Look at the last 4-5 articles. It’s filled with that. At least here so far there are rational posters like you and I
Stay thirsty my friends
Who called Fedor a coward?
Are you kidding me? Half the people who reply to these articles call him a coward. THE PRESIDENT of the UFC says Fedor doesn’t want to fight the best, which directly implies he’s a coward. Open your eyes.
As far as other people’s managements, you’re also ignorant. You hear about M-1 because they are a huge company in Russia and are a (smaller) competitor of the UFC in fight promoting. Same way you hear about Monte Cox, who manages a lot of midwest fighters and has his own promotion.
Furthermore, Fedor is the best fighter in the world, so OF COURSE he gets special attention.
P.S. – Sorry I pissed you off with logic and common sense.
well said olegb
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
by Ulf Murphy on Jun 26, 2010 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Best fighter of the world five years ago maybe
We hear about M-1 because of Fedor not because they’re something special. And so you’re a big mma company is Russia? That’s like saying you have a huge record company in Thailand. Just because it’s big there doesn’t mean jack shit to the world.
Also, the ONLY people that care about Fedor are the hardcore mma fans that used to watch pride. The rest of the mma community couldn’t give two shits about him since he’s taking on crap fighters and won’t go and fight someone like Brock or Carwin or hell even Mir.
And he is a coward if what he says is true is because he gets more ‘respect’ in Russia than America.
Cowards don't fight for a living. Use another word.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Acceptable. In this case I would say that Fedor is being a businessman who wants too much money for being a fighter who is not known to the casual MMA fan.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
But I think he could get that if he fought in the UFC
Come on, you can’t tell me there wouldn’t be a huge massive ad campaign on that. From there Fedor could use the UFC the launch M-1.
I agree. UFC could market him like crazy and make more $$$ for him but he likes being in control. You would have to give the UFC alot of control which is why M1 is making its ridiculous demands. I see both sides.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I do too but I think Fedor's (or his manger's) stubborness is getting in the way of making profit
While you would have to give the UFC alot of control, I think they would still do a good job.
I'm a big Fedor fan but
I can’t stand M1 so if anybody is getting screwed by this is M1.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Ok
I’ve never said M1 demanding co-promotion was crooked or cowardly. They (M1) are in NO position to ask for co-promotion from a company like the UFC, let alone have it be the make-it or break-it part of the negotiations. Yeah, it still business, but it’s unreasonable. Think about how they were just recently “re” negotiating their contract with StrikeForce and causing fight delays. 1 fighter, slowing down an entire organization. Why the hell would Dana want that drama for the UFC? They’re more interested in dangling Fedor in front of the UFC and playing victim (as in this case).
I like how War Kratos states these things as a fact
You’re bringing up speculations and only looking at it from UFC’s point of view.
More importantly, I’m NOT defending M1, I’m defending FEDOR. These imbeciles somehow think they scientifically proved the equation (M1 wants their way + UFC wants their way = Fedor is ducking competition and is a coward) to be true.
You're good at reading minds.
Should be using that skill for your own good.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
?
What did I state as fact that wasn’t? The mess with StrikeForce and M1? That happened. M1 being a nobody and UFC being a big force in MMA. That’s true too. Co-Promotion being the reason dana won’t sign? Where have you been?
I’m a huge Fedor fan too and I defend him whenever I feel it’s necessary. But Vadim getting a taste of his own medicine? Yeah, I’m going to call it what is is.
way 2 many douches wear tapout anyways
The Red Wings will come back stronger
RESTORE THE ROAR 2010 Detroit Lions
hey thats not nice lol
SHOGUN SLAYED THE DRAGON! Hell Yeah
by Phenomenal Angel on Jun 26, 2010 12:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
TAPOUT+UFC
TapouT is the official sponsor of the UFC. It only makes sense to have the same motives/moral as the UFC. Basically in signing in with eachother, the made the deal to promote the same things. You wouldn’t see UFC put on their posts a clothing company that mocks TapouT. UFC & TapouT are NOT the same company, but i’d consider them “brother” companies. Or UFC (zuffa) is TapouT’s father company.
Exactly.
It’s like Bud Light trying to promote another football league, the NFL would not be cool with it.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
nfl is totally cool with it, go sponsor the arena league, they are FINE with that...but see the UFC cant decide what SF is...if they are the nfl/superbowl and SF is the arena league, then why would the UFC care? obviously they do care despite what dana sa
Fav 6 Fighters:Spider Silva,Mayhem,Jon Jones,Aoki,KJ Noons/King Mo
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
they wouldnt want them to sponsor the UFL, or any new league that is trying to compete with them...but SF has never claimed to be competiting, its the complete opposite.
Fav 6 Fighters:Spider Silva,Mayhem,Jon Jones,Aoki,KJ Noons/King Mo
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
It doesn't matter that SF says they aren't trying to compete. They are trying to run a MMA business in North America
That is UFC’s territory. They are competition.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
good way to look at it Jay
when they were a regional show, in San Jose, UFC didnt flinch, you go all over into their territory, they will crush you. It’;’s a simple and realistic concept at this point. Everyone said Elitexc was the answer, then affliction, now SF…sorry, ur wrong!
There isn't enough buyers in North America to have two major shows.
SF is trying to steal some of the UFC’s market, I say crush them so I can see where Fedor hides next.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
That what SF has always been
They have not got MMA legalized in any state like the UFC is doing, they are simply following the uFC around and have done little as far as grow the sport.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
They've done nothing, they ARE nothing.
they are the flavor of the month. Next year Dana will have another tacky casket on his desk and we will be talking about how Bellator just signed Fedor and have no one for him to fight. History repeats itself.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I have no problem with this.
Fuck M1! They are getting squeezed by the UFC and it’s about time, fuckers want everything their way!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
YES
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
This to me is GREAT news!!!
Call me a UFC nuthugger I call you a HOMO! DW actually listens to the fans unlike M1.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Homo is my new favorite word thanks to Hella.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Is it justme, or isTapout really milking the lose of their buddy to sell shit
its like theyre using his death and memory for sales, how do these douche bags sleep at night?
really wasnt a fan of putting him in UFC undisputed...its a bit eerie since you smash his face in
Fav 6 Fighters:Spider Silva,Mayhem,Jon Jones,Aoki,KJ Noons/King Mo
Team Pioli/Haley. Decade of the Chiefs.
wow this page is full of ufc cocksuckers
Fuck I’m glad Fedor won’t waste his time trying to give you losers the fights that “need to happen”. Best HW of all time. Period. Always. This is a dick move and I’m so glad Fedor won’t ever come work for some f*cking loser like Dana. Throwing another hissyfit.
You guys do know Penn couldn’t wear his RVCA (Ruca) shirts anymore, cause Fedor has that brand as a sponsor as well right? Dana is a f*cking b*tch.
Fedor you’re the man. I’m in awe of your pride and respect. And its amazing to me how stupid most fans are.
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 26, 2010 1:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You're the stupidest fan I've ever run across. You should choose your words wisely.
Why would Dana want to let Fedor make money while ducking his promotion? You can’t be that retarded business wise.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
So why would Fedor sign with a promotion
That is taking money away from him, calling him a coward, and disgracing his legacy in the sport.
Stupid is as stupid does. Take a look in the mirror, “you ain’t no genius either”.
some people just think its cool to hate dana maybe
worby would probably bitch about dana if he found out he wiped his ass in a different direction than him.
Who said you aint no genius either? Why would you quote that?
They are making it so Fedor has to sign with them if he wants to make money. You don’t see that? They are trying to make it impossible for Fedor to make a shit load of money without them, I don’t understand how that is confusing you.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Why should Fedor sign with the UFC?
1. To make more money.
2. To complete his legacy and establish himself as the best fighter ever once and for all.
3. To shut Dana White’s mouth before the whole world.
4. To please me.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
The #1 reason is #4 and not only you every other MMA fan
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
you losers just back everything dana does
Explain why Penn can’t wear RVCA anymore then and had to come out in f*cking WalMart fight gear last time (MMA Elite).
I’m sure you’ve got some great story about how its just business. Its not. He’s a fucking whiner and you’ll all follow his whining lead, cause he’s got a bigger media outlet and a bigger org.
Losers.
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 26, 2010 2:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You don't even know what you're bitching about. You haven't read anything about the RVCA deal
You just find out what Dana says and go against it no matter what. You’re lame(on this subject). Dana could say he’s against kicking puppies and you’d still disagree with him. You might as well save your opinion on anything to do with Dana. Like I said, I knew where you would stand on this subject before you got up this morning.
I bet you think M1 deserves to co-promote a fight with the UFC don’t you? Sheep.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
LOL. It is just business, Worbs. Is he being a dick? Yes. Is it fair? No. Is it common in American business? Yes it is. I don't think its a personal decision per se.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
And
Nobody backs up everything that Dana says. You just complain about everything Dana says. LOSER.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I know I gave DW shit when he signed Kimbo Slice. I call 'em as I see 'em.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
jay is a stubborn loser and i hate him
OJR you are still cool.
:)
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 26, 2010 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
WOW Worby once again your ingnorance shines brightly!
You have no idea how a business works but everytime your opinion is Dana is in the wrong? Are you that ignorant or you just blinded by jealousy?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
But BJ is a man
and wore it anyways. why doesn’t tapout stand up for themselves? they sponsor everyone, see where fighter loyalties lie. I agree with you on Fedor Worbs, but this is Dana running a shrewd business!
Finally someone brings the truth, thank you worby.
Reading all the other posts here it was clear to me why much of america is run by corporations. Apparently these kinds of business practices are normal and acceptable, like when Dan Henderson wasn’t giving the UFC the figures they wanted, they banned him from sponsoring anyone//getting his gear shown in UFC fights.
I mean… YAY let’s prevent more people from taking part in MMA culture!!! GJ DANA!!!
Yeah, America is controlled by corporations, special interest groups that make alot of $$$ through corporations and the gov't - which relies on corporations to contribute to America's pulse - capitalism.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
thx Kanadian
I try to be polite usually, but this is just ridiculous. Its very immature, and I just am disgusted at the followers.
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 26, 2010 3:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I hate when businesses do things to make themselves money. You know those people at the UFC should do more to help their fellow organizations. Maybe they could give all their proceeds to Strikeforce and M1 so they can become as big as the UFC then everyone will be happy.
Business is business. If something is going to hurt the competition and/or help the UFC Dana White is going to do it.
Now go up and have a shower, and make sure its a good one, cause Ill be coming up after to see how clean you are
by snipersniper on Jun 26, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Before I forget,
USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
USA! USA! USA!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
FUCK YEAH!!!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
And we have lift off of the Dana White thread.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
two women that would sleep with jardine instead of fedor.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Fedor: He once had an awkward moment in the cage, just to see what it feels like. Sharks have a week dedicated to him. He would show his feminine side if he had one. He is a lover, not a fighter, but don't get any ideas. He is the most important man in the world. Stay thirsty my comrades b/c i will never fight in the UFC. Sorry Fedor but in America Budweiser is the King of beers and Lesnar is a clydesdale while Fedor is just a mule. Beating Werdum proves nothing. Beat Lesnar, Carwin. JDS, Velasquez or Overeem and i'll be impressed. Just one of them.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 26, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Bless you, Yan.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You don't like my vida guerra pic?
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Champ - your pics are always awesome. I have to pat the back of the guys who don't do it that often.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
this is america where we can have monopoly's unlike russia.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Fedor: He once had an awkward moment in the cage, just to see what it feels like. Sharks have a week dedicated to him. He would show his feminine side if he had one. He is a lover, not a fighter, but don't get any ideas. He is the most important man in the world. Stay thirsty my comrades b/c i will never fight in the UFC. Sorry Fedor but in America Budweiser is the King of beers and Lesnar is a clydesdale while Fedor is just a mule. Beating Werdum proves nothing. Beat Lesnar, Carwin. JDS, Velasquez or Overeem and i'll be impressed. Just one of them.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 26, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
monopoly's are illegal.
oligopoly’s however, are not.
by Coach's Corner on Jun 26, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I would chant Canada, but I sort of wish I was American.
by snipersniper on Jun 26, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Blasphemy.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Because Canada sucks at the girly sport of soccer.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
Sorry, I have a probalem with my tax dollars paying for unemployed bums and single moms to sit around and hate on me.
fucking welfare state, you do better to not work then to work hard.
by snipersniper on Jun 26, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I always thought it was, maybe Im wrong
plus they are too easy on criminals, our pathetic military makes us sitting ducks
our immigration is too lax and lets criminals in and terrorist are numerous here Im sure. The idea of the cultural menagerie as oppose to the melting pot has left things overly politically correct and hence diluted and weak
Not to mention Canadian UFC audiences are easily the rudest
by snipersniper on Jun 26, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been to 75% of the events in Canada and the audience was fantastic.
And all that other shit you mentioned is the same in the US only worse.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
These problems are worldwide and not just limited to North America. Trust me.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
in canada
Jay is a loser.
:)
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 26, 2010 3:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Worby do you ever have anything intelligent to say?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
We are fucking around.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
another easy way out
if you think about it. i think this is just another excuse or reason for why they shouldn’t work with the ufc. they just looking for more reasons why fedor shouldn’t fight in the ufc thats all. i mean come onn its bloody t-shirts their crying about. if they want their t-shirts so bad then just come over to the ufc and dana will let the fedor t-shirts live. i guarantee that over the next couple of weeks they are going to look for another 20 excuses why fedor shouldn’t go to the ufc. its going to be some more stupid stuff like t-shirts aswell
Good point.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Now that you say that f1
Do you think Dana will also offer them their tap out deal when negotiates next time? “we can’t offer the co-promotion but we can offer you a tap out deal worth millions”?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
All good businessmen do this. He is not a douche. He is just being very aggressive.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
LOL. I guess so...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
The way he is quoted makes him siound like a HUGE DOUCHE. but i'm sure we don't know the specifics
by Jared DeMarino on Jun 26, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya gotta be a cold hearted dick to be very successful - at least in the USA. I don't know about other countries.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Dana White
This does not surprise me at all.Dana is like a spoiled child.He always thinks of himself and if he does not get his way he throws a temper tantrum.
Thinks of himself? You mean thinks of the UFC I hope, right?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
This guy's right. Dana should also try to make SF and Fedor as successful as possible.
Pfffttttt
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Crushing
Sometimes trying to crush someone into submission doesn’t really work.
Neither has anything else though. The UFC has nothing to lose at this point really.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
McDonalds should also allow Wendy's, Burger King and Harvey's to make their own Big Macs.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
^^^non sarcasm^^^
:)
Loser.
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 26, 2010 3:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe Fedor will come to the UFC after this. Look at all the money he could make with them. And All the fans want it.
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
Seriously.......
First off Dana is close with the guys from Tapout and 2nd what does it do for Dana business wise? Maybe Tapout’s pissed that Fedor’s loosing fans and told him get into the UFC or we’ll stop selling ur shit. That makes more sense. Tapout im sure still sells way more UFC fighters things than just Fedor things. So it wouldnt help or hurt the UFC business wise if Dana did this. This whole story sounds fishy and it is just another excuse from Fedor’s camp on why not to come to the UFC. This conversation is so old………………
sry change theme
was this post here in mania ? http://www.mmafightgirls.com/category/433/cristiane-cyborg-santos
TAPOUT=sellout
WHy would dana not screw with Bellator why FEDOR??!?!?! this is not fair and i’m no longer a supporter of tapout or the ufc…who do they think they are….?
Mask would not have approved of this and would hav at least put out a statement!!!
Screw M-1!
Every other promo (Strikeforce, Dream, Bellator etc.) has fighter that wear Tapout and dana hasn’t done this before. Dana just hates M-1 and for good reason.
Another reason to add to my rapidly growing list of reasons why i hate Dana White.
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
too fu-king bad.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Fedor: He once had an awkward moment in the cage, just to see what it feels like. Sharks have a week dedicated to him. He would show his feminine side if he had one. He is a lover, not a fighter, but don't get any ideas. He is the most important man in the world. Stay thirsty my comrades b/c i will never fight in the UFC. Sorry Fedor but in America Budweiser is the King of beers and Lesnar is a clydesdale while Fedor is just a mule. Beating Werdum proves nothing. Beat Lesnar, Carwin. JDS, Velasquez or Overeem and i'll be impressed. Just one of them.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 26, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
when you learn to read my username properly i may actually pay attention to what your saying.
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
fedor is never challenged. he can't beat the people i listed.
i’ll do one better “jam that dick in your face in your local park restroom”, jampark. peace. lol.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Fedor: He once had an awkward moment in the cage, just to see what it feels like. Sharks have a week dedicated to him. He would show his feminine side if he had one. He is a lover, not a fighter, but don't get any ideas. He is the most important man in the world. Stay thirsty my comrades b/c i will never fight in the UFC. Sorry Fedor but in America Budweiser is the King of beers and Lesnar is a clydesdale while Fedor is just a mule. Beating Werdum proves nothing. Beat Lesnar, Carwin. JDS, Velasquez or Overeem and i'll be impressed. Just one of them.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 26, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
and thats what we call in modern days a FAIL.
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
I honestly doubt Dana would ban Tap Out as a UFC sponsor, the guys who run that company are like family to him and the Ferttita’s and they’ve been business partners for a long time. Until we hear something from Tap Out or Zuffa, I don’t take this with a grain of salt and I have no reason otherwise to do so. Finklestein is cancer on Fedor’s career and with the exposure M1 would’ve gotten in the sponsorship role they would’ve had in the UFC, Vadim has sabotaged his own company
M1 is little more than a glorified management company trying to pass itself off as a growing MMA promotion who’s primary way of doing business is through copromotion. What they basically do is attach themselves to other promotions, “promote” their one and only credible fighter in Fedor and take 50% of the profits. Zuffa recognizing this, basically said to M1 that we’re not going to give you guys 50% for just giving us 1 fighter. The last 2 companies M1 copromoted off of, suffered huge financial losses and are no longer in business as fight promotions in Affliction and Bodog.
Funny thing is you never hear about SF, Dream, Sengoku or any of these other promotions asking to copromote off of an M1 card…it’s always the other way around. Vadim talked Fedor into minority ownership of M1, funnny because once Fedor retires…I can’t see too many companies wanting to work with them. Once Fedor retires, I’ll be amazed if M1 is around for that much longer
is dana the biggest piece of whiny shit ever? yes.
would dana take it in the ass from bobby lashley and then walk over his dead mother’s body to sign fedor? yes.
is dana a jealous, vindictive little bitch? yes.
Are you jealous of Dana CC? Yes.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I don't they Dana minds Tap Out making Fedor Shirts anymore
Cuz he actually tapped out!!!!
do not support the ufc
why would a person dislike the ufc
ill tell you why
there fighters and shows are awesome
but the companies tactics behind the scenes
to undermine and ruin the competition
even discredit champions like fedor is embarasing
i wont even wear my ufc gloves to training no more
its lame and based on that principle
im not going to support them anymore
its rotten from the top
by David Deitch III on Jun 30, 2010 2:07 AM EDT reply actions

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