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Vadim Finkelchtein: UFC threatened TapouT with lifetime ban over Fedor shirts

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"I'm afraid to disappoint the fans, but it seems like, never. Literally today they called me from the TAPOUT firm and told me that they were contacted by the representatives of the UFC, and that under the threat of tearing up all the contracts with their organization demanded that TAPOUT categorically stop producing all the shirts from the line of Fedor Emelianenko. This is how Dana White feels about Fedor. So tell me, what can we think about such person after this, that even in things that have nothing to do with UFC, he still tries to mess it up for us. So it seems that the shirts will just stay a rarity that fans will see in pictures. Say thanks to UFC and their politics of monopoly."

Co-owner and President of M-1 Global Vadim Finkelchtein accuses the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) of blocking a potential deal between Fedor Emelianenko and TapouT, the world's most recognizable brand of mixed martial arts apparel and merchandise. TapouT produced a Fedor shirt that will probably never see the light of day under threat of a lifetime ban from the UFC. Is this just business 101? Or a slap in the face to a company that helps provide for many of today's (and yesterday's) top fighters?

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Fecal-stain can suck a fart out of my ass

That guy is as crooked as they come and is the last one who should be commenting on someone else’s business practices.

by SHORT_BUS on Jun 26, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

Fecal-stain can suck a fart out of my ass
that made me laugh

by Egads on Jun 26, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

dont forget

tapout has the ufc to thank for making their business successful as well. if it wasnt for them tapout would still be selling their ugly shirts out of the back of cars still. is it me or does fedor and finklestien seem to be using the media bigtime lately to slam the ufc amerikans? war is a bitch eh.

by Egads on Jun 26, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes...

they have a fight coming up and i think they talked about the ufc more than fighting werdum

by HitokiriX on Jun 26, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

Why talk about a fight that was set up for him to win? There’s no story there. Fucking Britanny Spears of MMA, outside of the media, no one cares anymore, just talks and does stupid shit so people will remember them

Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.

by JasonFahQ on Jun 26, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The two situations are nothing alike.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes they are, Jay. Its called hardball business practices. Same shit, different intestine.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the UFC had made Tapout print their Fedor shirts saying

Tapout and UFC present

Fedor

Then it would be the same. The UFC doesn’t want Tapout taking the profits they make/made with the UFC and putting it into starting a Fedor line. Nothing wrong with that. If the UFC had said “I want half the profits from all Fedor shirts”, then it would be the same.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

They aren't really similar IMO

M1 wants a lot of money for doing nothing in their situation, and the UFC doesn’t want to give away any of their money for no reason in their situation. Totally different scenarios here.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

my 2 cents

seems shady to me, but goes to show the real power that the UFC has. Tapout is supposedly growing by 300% a year yet they will bow down to the UFC in an instant. Right or wrong, I can tell you one thing, I wish I had that kinda power!

by kevjack115 on Jun 26, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh and by the way

he’s doing the same thing to them that they are doing to him. It’s basically who can fuck who more and worse!

by kevjack115 on Jun 26, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's right. If I helped make a sponsor I wouldn't want them promoting the competition either.

This helps put the squeeze on Fedor to go to the UFC. You want to make money, go fight good fighters.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny thing is I never wanted a Tapout shirt before

But now I might want one just because of this mess and it will be limited!!!

Then again on second thought Hendo line Clinch Gear has a Fedor line so maybe I will get my shirt there.

Hendo is less douchy than Tapout.

Nobody makes me bleed my on own blood!

by WarriorSaint on Jun 26, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

the thing about this is it’s not even about money it’s just Dana being fucking vindictive. Tapout isn;t your fucking company, Dana, and them selling a few fedor shirts certainly isn’t hurting the UFC.

by frosnt1 on Jun 26, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

but

it’s hurting M-1 and they are hurting Dana by not giving in. It’s a brilliant move on Dana’s part, like it or not, he’s just showing he’s in control. watch him buy SF when Fedor’s contract is up just so he has no one to fight!

by kevjack115 on Jun 26, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is definitely putting the pressure on them now.

He wants them gone, obviously.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's gonna buy out SF

mark my words, he wanted pride, he got it, he wants Fedor, whats a few million bucks and a new stable of fighters

by kevjack115 on Jun 26, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

I could totally see this happening.

Albino Mormon 4 Life

by Dakatak on Jun 26, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not the same move in my mind.

But agree to disagree.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's because you hate Fedor's cronies! LOL. I don't care anyway as M1 or DW will NOT be sending me a check for my loyalty.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys are just a bunch of week-end posters!

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good pic, Yan. I like pussy! :)

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree with Yan!

You guys are just a bunch of noobs!

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Jun 26, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn!

I was thinking the Champ is the only one missing…

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea it's the weekend, I'm at work

And I’ll be here tomorrow! YAY! ….. wait a sec..

"The other shape,
If shape it might be call'd, that shape had none,
Distinguishable in member, joint, or limb;
Or substance might be call'd that shadow seem'd;
For each seem'd either; black it stood as night,
Fierce as ten furies, terrible as Hell,
And shook a dreadful dart; what seem'd his head
The likeness of a kingly crown had on.
Satan was now at hand; and from his seat
The monster, moving onward, came as fast
With horrid strides; Hell trembled as he strode."
-- John Milton

by O damn he got caught on Jun 26, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where you been?

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here in this office chair.. or purgatory..

Being purged of all evil, before I can move on to a real weekend someday.

"The other shape,
If shape it might be call'd, that shape had none,
Distinguishable in member, joint, or limb;
Or substance might be call'd that shadow seem'd;
For each seem'd either; black it stood as night,
Fierce as ten furies, terrible as Hell,
And shook a dreadful dart; what seem'd his head
The likeness of a kingly crown had on.
Satan was now at hand; and from his seat
The monster, moving onward, came as fast
With horrid strides; Hell trembled as he strode."
-- John Milton

by O damn he got caught on Jun 26, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, man. Just make sure you save up all that $$$ for the Mania trip in 2011.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vegas?

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toronto would be awesome but who knows when (or if) that will happen?

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vegas seems to be the most popular request.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Vegas would be a blast!

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Jun 26, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me, too. Especially if most of the regulars can make it.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do they have hookers in Vegas?

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never been there but I heard that it is legal. Single guys might have a heathen's paradise.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't expecting you guys to take that question seriously.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna have to start using those winky faces again;)

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any of the brothels have women who look like Vida Guerra? You guys might find my corpse after 3 days of debauchery...

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dam ojr I can't belive U of all people never been 2 Vegas !

I don’t know if U shud go bro U might never leave =D

by d*locc on Jun 26, 2010 2:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know, right? I am not into gambling so I never thought about it. But I heard its alot more now so I am down.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course you can. All Maniacs are welcome. Look for a fanpost in late 2010 or early 2011.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Newbies pay the first round of beers.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sure to budget that.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL. Noobs also pay for 1st lap dance.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL. I know, dude. You are the Wolvie vs. Batman guy. Its all good.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

But damn, none of y'all drink!

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Jun 26, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I drink mixed drinks. Rum and coke for me.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice pussy.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Fedor: He once had an awkward moment in the cage, just to see what it feels like. Sharks have a week dedicated to him. He would show his feminine side if he had one. He is a lover, not a fighter, but don't get any ideas. He is the most important man in the world. Stay thirsty my comrades b/c i will never fight in the UFC. Sorry Fedor but in America Budweiser is the King of beers and Lesnar is a clydesdale while Fedor is just a mule. Beating Werdum proves nothing. Beat Lesnar, Carwin. JDS, Velasquez or Overeem and i'll be impressed. Just one of them.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 26, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree with OJR

Shadiness is a two way street, can’t believe only M-1 is capable of it.

Its hard for me to feel one way or the other because they are paying me nada for my consumer loyalty.

Nobody makes me bleed my on own blood!

by WarriorSaint on Jun 26, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

kev dana would never buy SF for him to buy something it has to be an investment and it wouldnt be it would be a waste of money to try and get some dude who is scared to fight the best, he had his chance when pride was bought, then when affliction went under and now when his SF contract is up he doesnt wanna do it he shows more and more each year hes a chicken and ducks the real shows

people need to quit defending him because everyone else came over and put there money where there mouth was and fought the best 3 strikes you’re out

by randy murders on Jun 26, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

What overpaying for PRIDE?

Pride was set to go out of business anyway and the UFC basically spent millions to own the contracts of fighters that they could have gotten anyway my waiting. Quit looking at UFC/SF as competition instead view it as variety.

My legend precedes me like lighting precedes thunder.

by delldog on Jun 26, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is variety to us. It is competition to Dana.

It doesn’t matter what we think.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

If SF and Bellator knew what the people wanted they would close their doors

Competition and multiple promotions does not work in the fight game.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't think.....

eliminating the competition is an investment?

by The real Philo on Jun 26, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it would be helping Fedor

Why help Fedor? Fuck him

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s fucking stupid. He’s not your enemy in capitalism you’re supposed to do as well for yourself as possible. Considerations of wanting to fuck over someone if it has no effect on your own bottom lines are not legitimate business decisions they are just personal vendettas, so long as the person you’re fucking

by frosnt1 on Jun 26, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

ignore that last part (as long as the person you’re fucking).

by frosnt1 on Jun 26, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

in fact the UFC screwing Fedor/tapout like this for no reason is decidedly BAD for the UFC from a business perspective. It means that they will never, ever be able to sign Fedor (not that it was super likely, but not beyond the realm of possibility) and make money off of him.

by frosnt1 on Jun 26, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree but DW obviously had his mind made up that he was not getting Fedor, hence this power play on his part.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Dana has succumb to the fact he'll never sign Fedor, so he'll try to crush him

I agree with OJR, business is cut throat. I owned a landscape design business, I had a competitor. I knew to the penny what he would bid on jobs, and I had a better portfolio than he did, I’d go in and bid 5 bucks less with better pictures/plans just to get the work. Was it ethical for me to know and under bid every job? Nope, but I would just trim something somewhere and make money, he went out of business!

by kevjack115 on Jun 26, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. This is the way American businesses are usually ran. You win by establishing a monopoly.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

you guys realize it's a beautiful sunday morning/afternoon

why r u on mania?
did you guys see that amateur hour weigh in last night? it was so bad I kept watching to see what was going to happen next

by kevjack115 on Jun 26, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Today's Sunday already?

Who won that Fedor fight, I missed it? LOL

It’s raining here.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I missed the weigh ins

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

my wife's cousins 9 yr old

has a boxing match today in oakland. Im going only to hopefully chat up andre ward, he should be there and is really cool, and spars with the Diaz’s and my wife’s cousin. my wife is on a Rampage today, on a 5 mile run, hopefully comes home in a good mood

by kevjack115 on Jun 26, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shower with her after her run and be sure to put her in a good mood, buddy.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, thats the plan.

I’m out, meeting her at the park so me and my son can toss the baseball around for a while. I went bowling yest, my ass/thighs are so sore from doing something I rarely do it’s pathetic

by kevjack115 on Jun 26, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am waiting for a delivery then I am going downtown to the Taste of Chicago.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

flip side really quick

Tapout sponsors EVERYONE, why not be a man (men) say fuck you to the UFC, put the shirts out and see how loyal the fighters are. Believe it or not, Tapout has been around before Dana, and are supposedly worth almost a billion dollars (exaggerated) so stand up for ur beliefs, I thought thats what the bad ass tapout crew was built on, Just saying

by kevjack115 on Jun 26, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dana then bans Tapout from the UFC

Tapout loses 80% of their guys.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe, maybe not

maybe the fighters (tapout sponsors everyone) says no, we r gonna still wear it. it only takes a few to have the rest follow. Randy with affliction is a good example!

by kevjack115 on Jun 26, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait.

You think if Dana bans Tapout that fighters would be allowed to wear it at their events still?

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Risk vs. reward for TapOut. Too much risk - not enough reward.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree OJR

just was throwing an option out there

by kevjack115 on Jun 26, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dana banned Affliction during Elite XC and everyone except Randy switched to the ugly Tapout shirts.

by Jimbobb on Jun 26, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe instead of buying a Fedor shirt...

….someone over at TapOut ends up buying a shirt for a UFC fighter instead. That’s helping his own brand.

by TheIlluminati on Jun 26, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you're not on the UFC payroll, you're brainwashed.

If you would have been in Germany during Hitler’s days, you would’ve been a follower of his.

My legend precedes me like lighting precedes thunder.

by delldog on Jun 26, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make sense so I can talk to you.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did he just equate Dana White to Adolph Hitler?

by Jimbobb on Jun 26, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

welcome to america boys

i’m sure nothing like this happen in russia. if i were the ufc i would block every money making opportunity for fedor and his handlers.another thing i want to make clear is who says fedor does not care about money. for all we know since he does associate and does business with his handlers he could be the one pulling the strings.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Fedor: He once had an awkward moment in the cage, just to see what it feels like. Sharks have a week dedicated to him. He would show his feminine side if he had one. He is a lover, not a fighter, but don't get any ideas. He is the most important man in the world. Stay thirsty my comrades b/c i will never fight in the UFC. Sorry Fedor but in America Budweiser is the King of beers and Lesnar is a clydesdale while Fedor is just a mule. Beating Werdum proves nothing. Beat Lesnar, Carwin. JDS, Velasquez or Overeem and i'll be impressed. Just one of them. College Football is still the best sport out there.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 26, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

UFC wants SF to fail and is doing everything in its power to make that happen, thats business.

by detroit_fan on Jun 26, 2010 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s not fun dealing with an unreasonable asshole, is it Finkelchtein?

by Jared1984 on Jun 26, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+10000000

Looks like Dana’s gonaa CRUSH your asses the old soviet way commrades!

Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.

by JasonFahQ on Jun 26, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldnt trust anything Vladim has to say...

i wana hear Dana’s side of this story before i decide to actually form an opinion about this… but if its true then thats a bit fucked up

by Wingblade on Jun 26, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

 If you are able not to sign with the UFC and mess with Dana, guess what, Dana’s also capable of messing up your shit as well!

by pamirec on Jun 26, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I think there's more to this than what he's saying

your not gonna get the full story from a twat like this he’s just trying to throw some shit cause he knows Fedor is considering going to the UFC & without Fedor M-1 global is M-1 Russia cause that’s the only country that’ll give shit about them

by evilgumbo on Jun 26, 2010 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

That's just Dana or whoever being an a-hole

That is not business thats the UFC trying to monopolize (?) everything. One shirt is not going to hurt the UFC . They just want to be the only one. Dana says that Strikeforce is bush league but the counter-program that is just being an a-hole or being afraid

by Norteco664 on Jun 26, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Actually...

It is business… A LOT of business do the same sort of shit… Any sponsor who tries to sponsor a rival will get the same threat no matter the business.

by Fokman on Jun 26, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok it's business but.....

How many Fedor shirts can they sale? That’s just the big dog pissing on the little dog. That shirt doest hurt the UFC at any level. The only one getting really hurt by this is TapouT

by Norteco664 on Jun 26, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Fedor and M1. They are also being hurt. Fedor would have received a cut from every tapout shirt with his name on it.

I agree 100% with Dana. This is a good move on his part.

You want to keep running from the UFC, then stop trying to make money with one of their biggest sponsors.

Bravo Dana Bravo. Put these bastards in a corner!

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just like the Affliction T shirts

When Affliction was running the UFC didn’t want clothing that also was supporting the competition. You guys have to realize that Fedor and some of the other SF fighters are the competition and Dana wether he’s the big dog or small dog has every right to say he doesn’t want to support a clothing line that helps the competition.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Jun 26, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he didn't say Tapout couldn't make the Fedor shirts.

He drew a line in the sand. You’re either with the UFC or against them.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s wait Dana’s words. I believe Finkelchtein wouldn’t invent this news. Actually this is business war. Everything is fair in a war, guys. Dana promotes UFC not MMA. Keep it in mind.

"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights

by Eduardo Cruz on Jun 26, 2010 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

And Finklefart is M1 or No one

I really dont believe this. I would like to hear it from the Tapout guys.

The Pain Train's in full steam ! ABM's look out.

by PSYQO78 on Jun 26, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Believe It

and I support it. Tapout owes everything to the UFC, without the UFC no one would give 2 shits for Tapout.

The enemy of my friend is my enemy. That seems totally reasonable.

Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.

by JasonFahQ on Jun 26, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL
  1. UFC nuthugger

I <3 Rashad Evans

by The real ZACK on Jun 26, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Youre no different

Call me a nuthugger but you are the one pulling your thong up your ass because you dont have any new Fedor shirts to jack-off into

Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.

by JasonFahQ on Jun 26, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Usually I like to disagree with JasonFahQ, because he is (self-admittedly a UFC nuthugger) but he's right here.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never thank Jay because he is my nemesis

But thanks Jay.

Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.

by JasonFahQ on Jun 26, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Even two guys who hate to agree with each other know this is a smart move by Dana. I would do the exact same thing, but I would have done it earlier. I’d also start putting pressure on anyone else thinking of sponsoring Fedor or any SF fighter UFC wants.

I know it seems mean or heavy handed, but business is business.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

U guys are both morons

Its just a shirt? is it really going to make or break tapout or Fedor. Fedor still makes his money while u two homos circle jerk with Dana in the middle!

I <3 Rashad Evans

by The real ZACK on Jun 26, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zack, c'mon. First of all, you can take the sig down, you've done well youngster.

Second of all. This is a sponsor helping Fedor stay out of the UFC. Dana wasn’t able to talk sense into Fedor because Fedor can make a boat load of money without them. Well now the UFC is trying to make it so he can’t make a living without them. It is hardball tactics but what else can they do? They’ve tried everything to make Fedor go there. This is just good business and I finally agree with something Dana does.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never wanted to buy any type of tapout t-shirts,

but now I’m thinking I’d like to have that Fedor shirt. Weird.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is pretty nice.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

How will Fedor vs Werdum unfold jay?

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same way as Fedor/AA

Werdum will come out and look like the better fighter only to get hit with one of those ugly brawling hooks. After the hook, Werdum loses all confidence and probably gets Ko’d, maybe tapped out after strikes.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. If Werdum is smart he leg kicks Fedor all day and escapes with a decision victory. Like Jardine vs. Chuck.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You think that could work? Werdum isn't fast enough

It worked for Forrest over Page, Jardine over Chuck and Edgar over BJ because they were all faster than their opponents. I don’t think that gameplan would work here.

Notice how when a fighter has really nothing to offer his opponent it seems like leg kicks and running around seem to be the only game plan we can come up for him. You know you’re screwed when your best game plan involves leg kicks and running away. lol

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think his best shot is using his strength.

I doubt he has it in him to avoid a big shot from Fedor for 15 minutes with that plan. He needs to get this fight on the ground and win with a sub or LNP.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

theres still affliction fedor shirts

SHOGUN SLAYED THE DRAGON! Hell Yeah

by Phenomenal Angel on Jun 26, 2010 12:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Dana Promotes UFC

Tapout promotes MMA, not the UFC…If this is true, I think Dana is not being fair to the Tapout guys, and I don’t see him screwing them over. Smells like somethings up.

by Il Gladiatore on Jun 26, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

i agree

something fishy here

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by Phenomenal Angel on Jun 26, 2010 12:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's called business and Dana like it or not has every right to tell a clothing line that he won't support it if they support the competition

 I think Finkledink is getting what he deserves, I hate M1 so I’m happy Dana is pissing them off

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Jun 26, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can you say extortion?

Kind of a dick move involving the guys that have been with the UFC since the beginning, at least since Zuffa (Dana using his friends money) has owned it anyway.

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by _Felix_ on Jun 26, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't Use Words You Don't Know How to Use

Extortion is demanding money in a blackmail attempt with the person being “extorted” being threatened that they will be reported for something the did wrong.

Not even close. 2nd, you talk about Dana’s “frineds” money. Can you do me a favor a list all of the companies that started without any investment from other partners? Use your brain kid.

Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.

by JasonFahQ on Jun 26, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I should have said coercion.
And yeah, without his rich investor friends money the UFC wouldn’t be where it is today. Without them he’d still be running like a bitch from the wise guys in Boston. Dude seems to have forgotten where he came from in a way.

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by _Felix_ on Jun 26, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's easy to critize

But Im sure if you went from average Joe to the president of the fastest growing sport in the US, you may be a little different too.

It’s called being human. Dana White isn’t anyone special, he eats, breathes, changes his mind and takes a shit everyday just like you. It’s easy to say how he SHOULD act when you have never had to walk in his shoes.

Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.

by JasonFahQ on Jun 26, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah yeah...

run along.

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by _Felix_ on Jun 26, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

That response shows

Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.

by JasonFahQ on Jun 26, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Dana haters are more like WWE fans they jsut want to hate the boss

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Jun 26, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And DW lovers are just as bad. They just want to excuse everything the UFC does. I prefer objectivity.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there any DW lovers?

I agree and disagree with him based on each move. Sometimes I agree with him sometimes I don’t. Guys like Worby and Introvert will always find a way to disagree with him just to call people UFC nuthuggers. I already knew Worby would say what he had to say before he woke up this morning.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, there are plenty of DW lovers who will defend him blindly without looking at the facts involved.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know any.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason FahQ is the only one I've ever seen.

Why would anyone like Dana White? He’s nobody.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

They come out in full force on a DW thread.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I respect Dana but I don't always agree with him

Is he in the wrong regardless if it was Dana or the UFC as a whole the answer is no. It’s called business what he is doing anyone that works in a company that has competition see’s this all the time. In ourt company we try not and sell products that the competition sells and if the product is given to the competition we have threatened to take it off our line. UFC is not the only company doing this any player NIke signes is not allowed to wear the competions clothing same goes with Tap Out and the UFC agreement

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Jun 26, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Business may be business, but............

If this is in fact true, it would be pretty F’d up of Dana to threaten TapouT! Otherwise, screw the Fink! He’s just worried his one-trick-pony may either slip from his grass, or, prove to be getting a little past his prime! In which case, he may lose to today’s top competition! That said, I am a huge fan of Fedor and wish he could come to the UFC!

by Danas A Crossdresser on Jun 26, 2010 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems like business to me

Sure, maybe a crummy move by Dana but that’s business. M1 wants a piece of the pie, and he wants to make sure they don’t get it, by whatever means necessary.
And no, Vadim, Dana doesn’t “feel” that way about Fedor. He hates you and your buddies. Despite all the crap he talks about Fedor, you and I both know if he signed him, Fedor would be a God in his eyes by the next day.

I like this move because it pisses M1 off. I hope they know what they are dealing with when they try to meddle in anything even attached to the UFC.

I hate this move because, as usual with M1 and the UFC, the fans get screwed. I just hope if this is true, that they don’t ban ALL tapout shirts for every UFC fighter. Seems extreme and I don’t think Dana would want that. I think he just wants Fedor, while under the banner of M1 and strikeforce, to not have any success.

by War Kratos on Jun 26, 2010 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

how does this screw the fans?

its not like fedor wont be fighting now, he just has to wear a different shirt now. or do you mean its one less shirt some wannabe tough guy trailer trash can buy for $80?

by Egads on Jun 26, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the UFC bans Tapout for every fighter

Quote:
“tearing up all the contracts with their organization”
Not just Fedor T-Shirts. This would affect those who wear shirts, tapout as a company, and the fighters. The UFC canceling ALL contracts is a huge deal. I don’t care about who wears the shirt and what you think of people who do. That’s not what’s being discussed.

by War Kratos on Jun 26, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

he doesn't and he won't do it for every fighter

just the fighter who has a company that talks shit

by HitokiriX on Jun 26, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right...

Which is why I said I hope they don’t do that and that it would be extreme.

by War Kratos on Jun 26, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

behind one business is another waiting to take over

if the were to tear up the contracts, both silverstar and affliction would be right there. its capitalism. and dont forget, affliction was banned once too, it hurt no one. once they affliction came back to the darkside all was well again

by Egads on Jun 26, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK DANA WHITE

How does this help the fans? ALL U UFC FANBOYS It just a fuckin shirt!
All u UFC nuthuggers on here make me sick

I <3 Rashad Evans

by The real ZACK on Jun 26, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Its not Just a Shirt

It’s an advertisement. One Fedor isn’t going to have anymore lol

Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.

by JasonFahQ on Jun 26, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

And people wonder why Fedor doesn't like the UFC

Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.

by Johnny WF on Jun 26, 2010 12:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Considering all the back and forth..

between M1 and the UFC these past few years, I’m not surprised. I don’t see this as personal. Just business. It’s not like if Fedor signed with the UFC, they would still pull this crap and screw him over. Fedor’s with a company who thinks it can compete with the UFC in the U.S market. This is part of bumping heads with a company as big as the UFC while you are a company no one’s heard of.

by War Kratos on Jun 26, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

They want to compete and then cry that the it’s not a level playing field. Tough Shit!

Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.

by JasonFahQ on Jun 26, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Politics of Monopoly?

Russia has never seen anything like that. . .Rrrrright ex-KGB operative and now ruler of Russia Comrade Putin? LOL.

by haglnuts on Jun 26, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Dana White is only good at brainwashing little kids....

It’s not “crazy Russians” that are stopping Fedor from getting to the UFC, it’s “crazy Jew” Dana White. Nuff said.

by Hooner on Jun 26, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

The guy trying to force him into a contract is stopping said contract?

I don’t get it.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

all that money and immediate title shot talk before was just crazy… why would anyone want to accept a contract like that?

by HitokiriX on Jun 26, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is crazy

whod want to step in the cage and face brock? then again for 2 to 5 million dollars per fight id let brock smash as many times as they would let me

by Egads on Jun 26, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm mid 30's

when do I get to stop being a little kid?

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

same age as me so

youre in the same boat as me. when we stop hugging danas nuts and think for ourselves we will grow up

by Egads on Jun 26, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zuffa also has employees

That go on MMA forums/news sites/articles to comment about how great the UFC is…Its guerilla marketing at its finest.

A lot of the most outrageous pro UFC in any circumstance people are actually paid employees

Stay thirsty my friends

by Bob Lawblah on Jun 26, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love the UFC apologists on the net...When Dana does something shady

Everybody says “it’s just business”.

When Fedor’s management wants to co promote (you know, part of doing business) ppl call Fedor a coward.

Some of you guys are just pathetic.

by olegb139 on Jun 26, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

no one says hes a coward because of co promoting

they say any organization is stupid to sign fedor to co promote because its bad business sense to do so. do all the work and give a chunk of money to M1. ask bodog/affliction if it makes sense.

by Egads on Jun 26, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guys like olegb piss me off.

Who said Fedor was a coward? Don’t make shit up. I haven’t seen anyone say Fedor was a coward for not going to the UFC. He’s a robot for not having his own thoughts. I’ve never heard anything about ANY other fighters manangement team. Who manages GSP, Brock, BJ, Frankie Edgar, Randy Couture, Chuck Liddell??? Who manages these people? I’m sick of hearing about what M1 wants, I shouldn’t have to hear about M1 at all.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of people

have called fedor a coward for not coming to the UFC. Look at the last 4-5 articles. It’s filled with that. At least here so far there are rational posters like you and I

Stay thirsty my friends

by Bob Lawblah on Jun 26, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who called Fedor a coward?

Are you kidding me? Half the people who reply to these articles call him a coward. THE PRESIDENT of the UFC says Fedor doesn’t want to fight the best, which directly implies he’s a coward. Open your eyes.

As far as other people’s managements, you’re also ignorant. You hear about M-1 because they are a huge company in Russia and are a (smaller) competitor of the UFC in fight promoting. Same way you hear about Monte Cox, who manages a lot of midwest fighters and has his own promotion.

Furthermore, Fedor is the best fighter in the world, so OF COURSE he gets special attention.

P.S. – Sorry I pissed you off with logic and common sense.

by olegb139 on Jun 26, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

well said olegb

The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein

by Ulf Murphy on Jun 26, 2010 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Best fighter of the world five years ago maybe

We hear about M-1 because of Fedor not because they’re something special. And so you’re a big mma company is Russia? That’s like saying you have a huge record company in Thailand. Just because it’s big there doesn’t mean jack shit to the world.

Also, the ONLY people that care about Fedor are the hardcore mma fans that used to watch pride. The rest of the mma community couldn’t give two shits about him since he’s taking on crap fighters and won’t go and fight someone like Brock or Carwin or hell even Mir.

And he is a coward if what he says is true is because he gets more ‘respect’ in Russia than America.

by pbdb on Jun 26, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cowards don't fight for a living. Use another word.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I think he could get that if he fought in the UFC

Come on, you can’t tell me there wouldn’t be a huge massive ad campaign on that. From there Fedor could use the UFC the launch M-1.

by pbdb on Jun 26, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a big Fedor fan but

I can’t stand M1 so if anybody is getting screwed by this is M1.

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Jun 26, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok

I’ve never said M1 demanding co-promotion was crooked or cowardly. They (M1) are in NO position to ask for co-promotion from a company like the UFC, let alone have it be the make-it or break-it part of the negotiations. Yeah, it still business, but it’s unreasonable. Think about how they were just recently “re” negotiating their contract with StrikeForce and causing fight delays. 1 fighter, slowing down an entire organization. Why the hell would Dana want that drama for the UFC? They’re more interested in dangling Fedor in front of the UFC and playing victim (as in this case).

by War Kratos on Jun 26, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like how War Kratos states these things as a fact

You’re bringing up speculations and only looking at it from UFC’s point of view.

More importantly, I’m NOT defending M1, I’m defending FEDOR. These imbeciles somehow think they scientifically proved the equation (M1 wants their way + UFC wants their way = Fedor is ducking competition and is a coward) to be true.

by olegb139 on Jun 26, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're good at reading minds.

Should be using that skill for your own good.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

What did I state as fact that wasn’t? The mess with StrikeForce and M1? That happened. M1 being a nobody and UFC being a big force in MMA. That’s true too. Co-Promotion being the reason dana won’t sign? Where have you been?
I’m a huge Fedor fan too and I defend him whenever I feel it’s necessary. But Vadim getting a taste of his own medicine? Yeah, I’m going to call it what is is.

by War Kratos on Jun 26, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

way 2 many douches wear tapout anyways

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by GOLDIGGAH on Jun 26, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

hey thats not nice lol

SHOGUN SLAYED THE DRAGON! Hell Yeah

by Phenomenal Angel on Jun 26, 2010 12:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

TAPOUT+UFC

TapouT is the official sponsor of the UFC. It only makes sense to have the same motives/moral as the UFC. Basically in signing in with eachother, the made the deal to promote the same things. You wouldn’t see UFC put on their posts a clothing company that mocks TapouT. UFC & TapouT are NOT the same company, but i’d consider them “brother” companies. Or UFC (zuffa) is TapouT’s father company.

by prettyinink on Jun 26, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Exactly.

It’s like Bud Light trying to promote another football league, the NFL would not be cool with it.

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Jun 26, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn't matter that SF says they aren't trying to compete. They are trying to run a MMA business in North America

That is UFC’s territory. They are competition.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

good way to look at it Jay

when they were a regional show, in San Jose, UFC didnt flinch, you go all over into their territory, they will crush you. It’;’s a simple and realistic concept at this point. Everyone said Elitexc was the answer, then affliction, now SF…sorry, ur wrong!

by kevjack115 on Jun 26, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

There isn't enough buyers in North America to have two major shows.

SF is trying to steal some of the UFC’s market, I say crush them so I can see where Fedor hides next.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That what SF has always been

 They have not got MMA legalized in any state like the UFC is doing, they are simply following the uFC around and have done little as far as grow the sport.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Jun 26, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

They've done nothing, they ARE nothing.

they are the flavor of the month. Next year Dana will have another tacky casket on his desk and we will be talking about how Bellator just signed Fedor and have no one for him to fight. History repeats itself.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well if you got the mucsles...FLEX'EM

I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy

by Big-dawg on Jun 26, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I have no problem with this.

Fuck M1! They are getting squeezed by the UFC and it’s about time, fuckers want everything their way!

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Jun 26, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

YES

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

This to me is GREAT news!!!

Call me a UFC nuthugger I call you a HOMO! DW actually listens to the fans unlike M1.

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Jun 26, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Homo is my new favorite word thanks to Hella.

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Jun 26, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it justme, or isTapout really milking the lose of their buddy to sell shit

its like theyre using his death and memory for sales, how do these douche bags sleep at night?

by snipersniper on Jun 26, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

really wasnt a fan of putting him in UFC undisputed...its a bit eerie since you smash his face in

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by SDChief on Jun 26, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow this page is full of ufc cocksuckers

Fuck I’m glad Fedor won’t waste his time trying to give you losers the fights that “need to happen”. Best HW of all time. Period. Always. This is a dick move and I’m so glad Fedor won’t ever come work for some f*cking loser like Dana. Throwing another hissyfit.

You guys do know Penn couldn’t wear his RVCA (Ruca) shirts anymore, cause Fedor has that brand as a sponsor as well right? Dana is a f*cking b*tch.

Fedor you’re the man. I’m in awe of your pride and respect. And its amazing to me how stupid most fans are.

*ABM*

Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.

by daniel worby on Jun 26, 2010 1:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You're the stupidest fan I've ever run across. You should choose your words wisely.

Why would Dana want to let Fedor make money while ducking his promotion? You can’t be that retarded business wise.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

So why would Fedor sign with a promotion

That is taking money away from him, calling him a coward, and disgracing his legacy in the sport.

Stupid is as stupid does. Take a look in the mirror, “you ain’t no genius either”.

by olegb139 on Jun 26, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

some people just think its cool to hate dana maybe

worby would probably bitch about dana if he found out he wiped his ass in a different direction than him.

by Egads on Jun 26, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who said you aint no genius either? Why would you quote that?

They are making it so Fedor has to sign with them if he wants to make money. You don’t see that? They are trying to make it impossible for Fedor to make a shit load of money without them, I don’t understand how that is confusing you.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why should Fedor sign with the UFC?

1. To make more money.
2. To complete his legacy and establish himself as the best fighter ever once and for all.
3. To shut Dana White’s mouth before the whole world.
4. To please me.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The #1 reason is #4 and not only you every other MMA fan

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Jun 26, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

you losers just back everything dana does

Explain why Penn can’t wear RVCA anymore then and had to come out in f*cking WalMart fight gear last time (MMA Elite).

I’m sure you’ve got some great story about how its just business. Its not. He’s a fucking whiner and you’ll all follow his whining lead, cause he’s got a bigger media outlet and a bigger org.

Losers.

*ABM*

Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.

by daniel worby on Jun 26, 2010 2:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You don't even know what you're bitching about. You haven't read anything about the RVCA deal

You just find out what Dana says and go against it no matter what. You’re lame(on this subject). Dana could say he’s against kicking puppies and you’d still disagree with him. You might as well save your opinion on anything to do with Dana. Like I said, I knew where you would stand on this subject before you got up this morning.

I bet you think M1 deserves to co-promote a fight with the UFC don’t you? Sheep.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

And

Nobody backs up everything that Dana says. You just complain about everything Dana says. LOSER.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know I gave DW shit when he signed Kimbo Slice. I call 'em as I see 'em.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

jay is a stubborn loser and i hate him

OJR you are still cool.

:)

*ABM*

Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.

by daniel worby on Jun 26, 2010 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

WOW Worby once again your ingnorance shines brightly!

 You have no idea how a business works but everytime your opinion is Dana is in the wrong? Are you that ignorant or you just blinded by jealousy?

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Jun 26, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

But BJ is a man

and wore it anyways. why doesn’t tapout stand up for themselves? they sponsor everyone, see where fighter loyalties lie. I agree with you on Fedor Worbs, but this is Dana running a shrewd business!

by kevjack115 on Jun 26, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finally someone brings the truth, thank you worby.

Reading all the other posts here it was clear to me why much of america is run by corporations. Apparently these kinds of business practices are normal and acceptable, like when Dan Henderson wasn’t giving the UFC the figures they wanted, they banned him from sponsoring anyone//getting his gear shown in UFC fights.

I mean… YAY let’s prevent more people from taking part in MMA culture!!! GJ DANA!!!

by Kanadian on Jun 26, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

thx Kanadian

I try to be polite usually, but this is just ridiculous. Its very immature, and I just am disgusted at the followers.

*ABM*

Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.

by daniel worby on Jun 26, 2010 3:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah I hate when businesses do things to make themselves money. You know those people at the UFC should do more to help their fellow organizations. Maybe they could give all their proceeds to Strikeforce and M1 so they can become as big as the UFC then everyone will be happy.

Business is business. If something is going to hurt the competition and/or help the UFC Dana White is going to do it.

by Jimbobb on Jun 26, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before I forget,

USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Jun 26, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

USA! USA! USA!

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK YEAH!!!

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Jun 26, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Jun 26, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we have lift off of the Dana White thread.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

This one for OJ:

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Jun 26, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

two women that would sleep with jardine instead of fedor.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Fedor: He once had an awkward moment in the cage, just to see what it feels like. Sharks have a week dedicated to him. He would show his feminine side if he had one. He is a lover, not a fighter, but don't get any ideas. He is the most important man in the world. Stay thirsty my comrades b/c i will never fight in the UFC. Sorry Fedor but in America Budweiser is the King of beers and Lesnar is a clydesdale while Fedor is just a mule. Beating Werdum proves nothing. Beat Lesnar, Carwin. JDS, Velasquez or Overeem and i'll be impressed. Just one of them.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 26, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bless you, Yan.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't like my vida guerra pic?

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Jun 26, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Champ - your pics are always awesome. I have to pat the back of the guys who don't do it that often.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's heavenly.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is america where we can have monopoly's unlike russia.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Fedor: He once had an awkward moment in the cage, just to see what it feels like. Sharks have a week dedicated to him. He would show his feminine side if he had one. He is a lover, not a fighter, but don't get any ideas. He is the most important man in the world. Stay thirsty my comrades b/c i will never fight in the UFC. Sorry Fedor but in America Budweiser is the King of beers and Lesnar is a clydesdale while Fedor is just a mule. Beating Werdum proves nothing. Beat Lesnar, Carwin. JDS, Velasquez or Overeem and i'll be impressed. Just one of them.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 26, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blasphemy.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha!

Haha!!!

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Jun 26, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because Canada sucks at the girly sport of soccer.

The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe

by Yan117 on Jun 26, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always thought it was, maybe Im wrong

plus they are too easy on criminals, our pathetic military makes us sitting ducks
our immigration is too lax and lets criminals in and terrorist are numerous here Im sure. The idea of the cultural menagerie as oppose to the melting pot has left things overly politically correct and hence diluted and weak
Not to mention Canadian UFC audiences are easily the rudest

by snipersniper on Jun 26, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been to 75% of the events in Canada and the audience was fantastic.

And all that other shit you mentioned is the same in the US only worse.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

These problems are worldwide and not just limited to North America. Trust me.

Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.

-Stephen King

by OJR on Jun 26, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

in canada

Jay is a loser.

:)

*ABM*

Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.

by daniel worby on Jun 26, 2010 3:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Worby do you ever have anything intelligent to say?

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Jun 26, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are fucking around.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 27, 2010 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

another easy way out

if you think about it. i think this is just another excuse or reason for why they shouldn’t work with the ufc. they just looking for more reasons why fedor shouldn’t fight in the ufc thats all. i mean come onn its bloody t-shirts their crying about. if they want their t-shirts so bad then just come over to the ufc and dana will let the fedor t-shirts live. i guarantee that over the next couple of weeks they are going to look for another 20 excuses why fedor shouldn’t go to the ufc. its going to be some more stupid stuff like t-shirts aswell

by f1 on Jun 26, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Good point.

But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers

by MMACHAMP on Jun 26, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now that you say that f1

 Do you think Dana will also offer them their tap out deal when negotiates next time? “we can’t offer the co-promotion but we can offer you a tap out deal worth millions”?

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Jun 26, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dana White

This does not surprise me at all.Dana is like a spoiled child.He always thinks of himself and if he does not get his way he throws a temper tantrum.

by coykite on Jun 26, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Thinks of himself? You mean thinks of the UFC I hope, right?

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Jun 26, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

This guy's right. Dana should also try to make SF and Fedor as successful as possible.

Pfffttttt

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crushing

Sometimes trying to crush someone into submission doesn’t really work.

by Brotherwolf on Jun 26, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Neither has anything else though. The UFC has nothing to lose at this point really.

"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.

"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.

by jay. on Jun 26, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously.......

First off Dana is close with the guys from Tapout and 2nd what does it do for Dana business wise? Maybe Tapout’s pissed that Fedor’s loosing fans and told him get into the UFC or we’ll stop selling ur shit. That makes more sense. Tapout im sure still sells way more UFC fighters things than just Fedor things. So it wouldnt help or hurt the UFC business wise if Dana did this. This whole story sounds fishy and it is just another excuse from Fedor’s camp on why not to come to the UFC. This conversation is so old………………

by Vincy22 on Jun 26, 2010 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't f*ck with the UFC chump!

Finkelchtein, we couldn’t give 2 shits about your misfortune.

by Josh H. on Jun 26, 2010 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

TAPOUT=sellout

WHy would dana not screw with Bellator why FEDOR??!?!?! this is not fair and i’m no longer a supporter of tapout or the ufc…who do they think they are….?

Mask would not have approved of this and would hav at least put out a statement!!!

by iamdanawhite on Jun 26, 2010 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

You are Dana White….Don’t you support your own actions?

by Jimbobb on Jun 26, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Screw M-1!

Every other promo (Strikeforce, Dream, Bellator etc.) has fighter that wear Tapout and dana hasn’t done this before. Dana just hates M-1 and for good reason.

by NateDogg77 on Jun 26, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Another reason to add to my rapidly growing list of reasons why i hate Dana White.

"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.

by JamPark on Jun 26, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

too fu-king bad.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Fedor: He once had an awkward moment in the cage, just to see what it feels like. Sharks have a week dedicated to him. He would show his feminine side if he had one. He is a lover, not a fighter, but don't get any ideas. He is the most important man in the world. Stay thirsty my comrades b/c i will never fight in the UFC. Sorry Fedor but in America Budweiser is the King of beers and Lesnar is a clydesdale while Fedor is just a mule. Beating Werdum proves nothing. Beat Lesnar, Carwin. JDS, Velasquez or Overeem and i'll be impressed. Just one of them.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 26, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

^ dickface

"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.

by JamPark on Jun 26, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

fedor is never challenged. he can't beat the people i listed.

i’ll do one better “jam that dick in your face in your local park restroom”, jampark. peace. lol.

I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Fedor: He once had an awkward moment in the cage, just to see what it feels like. Sharks have a week dedicated to him. He would show his feminine side if he had one. He is a lover, not a fighter, but don't get any ideas. He is the most important man in the world. Stay thirsty my comrades b/c i will never fight in the UFC. Sorry Fedor but in America Budweiser is the King of beers and Lesnar is a clydesdale while Fedor is just a mule. Beating Werdum proves nothing. Beat Lesnar, Carwin. JDS, Velasquez or Overeem and i'll be impressed. Just one of them.

by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 26, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

and thats what we call in modern days a FAIL.

"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.

by JamPark on Jun 27, 2010 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly doubt Dana would ban Tap Out as a UFC sponsor, the guys who run that company are like family to him and the Ferttita’s and they’ve been business partners for a long time. Until we hear something from Tap Out or Zuffa, I don’t take this with a grain of salt and I have no reason otherwise to do so. Finklestein is cancer on Fedor’s career and with the exposure M1 would’ve gotten in the sponsorship role they would’ve had in the UFC, Vadim has sabotaged his own company

M1 is little more than a glorified management company trying to pass itself off as a growing MMA promotion who’s primary way of doing business is through copromotion. What they basically do is attach themselves to other promotions, “promote” their one and only credible fighter in Fedor and take 50% of the profits. Zuffa recognizing this, basically said to M1 that we’re not going to give you guys 50% for just giving us 1 fighter. The last 2 companies M1 copromoted off of, suffered huge financial losses and are no longer in business as fight promotions in Affliction and Bodog.

Funny thing is you never hear about SF, Dream, Sengoku or any of these other promotions asking to copromote off of an M1 card…it’s always the other way around. Vadim talked Fedor into minority ownership of M1, funnny because once Fedor retires…I can’t see too many companies wanting to work with them. Once Fedor retires, I’ll be amazed if M1 is around for that much longer

by StealthBomber on Jun 26, 2010 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

is dana the biggest piece of whiny shit ever? yes.

would dana take it in the ass from bobby lashley and then walk over his dead mother’s body to sign fedor? yes.

is dana a jealous, vindictive little bitch? yes.

by Coach's Corner on Jun 26, 2010 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Are you jealous of Dana CC? Yes.

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

by Puck Head on Jun 26, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

do not support the ufc

why would a person dislike the ufc
ill tell you why
there fighters and shows are awesome
but the companies tactics behind the scenes
to undermine and ruin the competition
even discredit champions like fedor is embarasing
i wont even wear my ufc gloves to training no more
its lame and based on that principle
im not going to support them anymore
its rotten from the top

by David Deitch III on Jun 30, 2010 2:07 AM EDT reply actions  

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