Report: A 'disappointed' Yoshihiro Akiyama 'not pleased' with UFC 116 change in opponent
by Jesse Holland on Jun 24, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
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Chris Leben may be Zuffa's new company man, but it doesn't sound like he's a sexy enough replacement for Yoshihiro Akiyama at UFC 116: "Lesnar vs. Carwin" on July 3.
"The Crippler" was called up on short notice to replace Wanderlei Silva in the pay-per-view's co-main event when "The Axe Murderer" suffered a broken rib in training. While fans let out a collective groan over the incident, most were able to accept Leben as an adequate replacement considering the time constraints.
Akiyama? Not so much, according to his comments on Korea's Daum.net (translated by Fighter's Only):
"I am not pleased with the change. There are just ten days left until the contest for me to determine [Leben’s] threats and the time is insufficient to establish a tailored gameplan. Leben is also not as high-profile as [Wanderlei] Silva and that does not help me. If there is to be a replacement I was hoping for a big name. I spent one year preparing hard for this fight and this news has come as a big disappointment, my motivation has waned. I do not know yet what will happen ... In the worst case, I will not take part in the [UFC 116] event. We are working hard to resolve this issue."
It's hard to imagine a scenario where "Sexyama" withdraws from the promotion's biggest show of the year, but it doesn't bode well for the Judo master to be heading into his July 3 contest unfocused.
Akiyama hasn't competed since a razor thin split decision over Alan Belcher in his UFC debut nearly one year ago. Now he must overcome a sizable layoff, a change in opponents and a lack of motivation. Can he pull himself together and take his frustrations out on Leben?
We'll know soon enough.
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Wow.
This isnt going to happen. I can sense it.
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And you know what....
Im pretty happy about that. I want to see Seth fight on the card and right now its not televised.
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I think the UFC will pay him big time under the table and it will go down. This is one of their biggest cards of the year and losing Akiyama would be a big hit. Sucks though, I was looking forward to him and Wanderlei.
by HappyLittleTreez on Jun 24, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
The last thing I want to see is an unmotiveted fighter just going through the motions....
If Sexy isn’t into it, he shouldn’t fight. I can definitely see were he is coming from. Going from fighting an MMA legend and Icon, to a TUF cast member must be a huge letdown to him.
That said, they should book Sexy / Bisping, Sexy / Cote for 117 or 118.
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
Get over it and fight
Zuffa gave him a replacement fight that was as close to Wanderlei as they could possibly find. It’s not like they gave him some top tier grappler to face.
He is worried about gameplanning for Leben? That's the lamest excuse ever.
I’ll lend him my old TUF tapes if he wants, nothing has ever changed.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Seriously... I'd understand if like Demian Maia stepped up all the sudden.
But Leben? After training for Wanderlei that should be a relief.
Bullets dodge Fedor.
I was thinking the same. This is right out of left field.
Like if Fedor backed out and Werdum had to fight Chris Tuscherer instead.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
LOL
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I actually disagree with you guys
I know that Leben is close to the same style as Wand, but he’s been training to fight a big name to move up the ranks and he sees this fight as more of a risk with little reward. I agree with whoever said the UFC will offer him more money, money talks. The thing you and I would do for money…all he has to do is fight Chris Leben
This is one of their biggest cards of the year and losing Akiyama would be a big hit.
Actually, losing Akiyama really isn’t that big of a deal at all. The average fan does not know who he is. Nobody is buying this card because it features Akiyama.
IN FACT, if Akiyama pulled out of the fight, and Leben stepped in, we’d have Wanderlei vs Leben which is much more name recognition to the average fan.
Us hardcore fans buy every PPV. Casual fans pick and choose which ones they buy. Akiyama has ZERO influence over whether or not these people buy the PPV (except for maybe 3 Judo teachers living in america)
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Jun 24, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL, that's how I quote, bitches!!!!!
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Jun 24, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
VM is right though
This card is going to sell no matter what, because of Brock. Akiyama is saying this based on his training and how he feels this will improve his career, not the UFC
Clever? I simply fucked up, lol
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
by ViolentMike on Jun 24, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not just that.
Akiyama held out for an extra 8 months just so he could fight Wanderlei. It’s the lone fight he wanted and whether smart or not (waiting for a guy that’s as banged up as Wanderlei is pretty dumb imo) that’s the guy he wanted. Remember, Akiyama is Japanese and Silva is a HUGE star over there. So not only does a win over Wanderlei put him in good position in the middleweight division, it’s huge for his fanbase in his home country which has to mean a lot to Akiyama.
You can’t blame him for being upset.
I'm looking at it from his perspective.
He’s 16-1. He came into the UFC and beat a tough/durable Belcher. If he would have beaten Wandy, he would immediately have been in the title picture.
A loss to a lesser short notice opponent could really set him back. Its all risk and little reward. At least if he lost to a big name or top 5, it wouldn’t really hurt his position in the division.
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
Exactly, Cole. People are missing the business side of it.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
no, no, i see that as well
But, like I said talk to Dana. Dana will understand this is a sh*tty spot to be in. Just be honest. He’ll understand that Leben and Sexy are bailing him out, and agree to a make up match to try and help Sexyama out, win or lose.
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 24, 2010 10:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would if I were Sexy. I would prefer to fight a legend like Wand instead of a guy like Leben.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
His chances of winning went way up when Wand pulled out.
Sexy will still make the same or more money. Leben doesn’t have anything to surprise him with. This all seems like a good thing for Sexy.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
what if Leben catches him because his head isn't in it
Thats the thing Jay, beating Wand moves you closer to a shot, beating a guy who just fought 2 weeks ago does nothing for you. Stand your ground and get guaranteed more money or a title shot!
Standing your ground here is risky...
That makes him look bad in Dana’s eyes. Dana knows this fight is not gonna sell anymore PPV’s anyways, cause whoever buys will be buying for Lesnar Carwin and for the Wanderlei previews that will still be running until the very fight night.
I bet a lot of people who buy it won’t even know that Wand pulled out until it’s too late.
Bullets dodge Fedor.
true about not many people knowing
but Dana is a fight fan first in a situation like this, I think he’s been around long enough to know the chance being taken on less than 2 weeks notice, esp. going from an orthodox fighter to a south paw
Im Sure Sexy gets alot of foreign ppv buys
by AintNoSunshine on Jun 24, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Wand-Sexy wad the perfect fight to finally win the Japanese audience
Without either of them they’re not going to watch this show, so the UFC loses a big chance to finally break into Japan.
Speaking of Japan they just scored 2 quality free kicks that have pretty much confirmed their progress to the 2nd round in the world cup.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
by David W-S on Jun 24, 2010 3:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wand-Sexy wad the perfect fight to finally win the Japanese audience
Without either of them they’re not going to watch this show, so the UFC loses a big chance to finally break into Japan.
Good point. Well said.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
me too...
So make Dana promise a Wandy fight next, win or lose. Problem solved. Not like Wandy would refuse, or like he’s riding a big win streak. Its Wandy, he’d love to make up for his injury (even though not his fault), and doesn’t care if its a guy coming off a loss. He’s an entertainer, not a whiner.
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 24, 2010 11:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It seems its about adding a name to his resume and not just the money? Wand > Leben. Maybe?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Sounds like it to me...
I don’t think it’s exactly about the money here either. A potential win over Wandy raises his stock in the UFC and the MW division – a win over Leben? Not so much. Add in that, despite whatever perceived similarities between the two, he trained for Wandy and not Leben, his risks for picking up a loss instead of a win become raised…and I understand his POV a little more.
This guy needs to pull his head in. He has had one fight in the UFC—a fight he arguably should have lost—and now he’s bitching about the competition? I feel bad for him that he didn’t get the great match-up he wanted, but if he doesn’t make this fight I consider that ducking his competition.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
It's a crappy attitude
The UFC gave him a poor mans Wand who also happens to be popular in the US after Wand got injured so they couldn’t do any more for him. He’s not fought in a while so he needs to fight soon, otherwise he’s going to be rusty and off the pace. Really Sexyama should just man up, make the best of it and take a winnable fight on a major card, then he can demand a big fight, possibly Bisping in England or even the Nate-Palhares winner.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
by David W-S on Jun 24, 2010 3:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wel yeah!
What change is required to adapt? A slower bumrush? Leben’s only main difference, is a less ferocious ‘fists a blazing’ attack method. Otherwise pretty damn similar.
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 24, 2010 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow you don't get it
Akiyama has been training for a righty, and now he has to fight a southpaw with huge power. Obviously none of you have ever trained and don’t realize how dangerous that can be. Add to that the fact that Leben is a reality TV star who’s done little with his career as opposed to Wandy who is a legend, and yes, Akiyama has every right to pull out of this fight.
of course he has every right.
He doesn’t have to fight anyone. That doesn’t mean I, as a fan, have to like it.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I agree to a certain degree. Sexy should not pull out but he has a right to bitch about it for the reasons you just mentioned.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I think his respect as a fighter is established. This is purely business, IMO.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
good post p-unit
I was thinking of training for wand over Leben not even thinking the technicalities of it! he’ll get more money and fight!
This guy is overrated anyway.
I don’t consider him even close to being a legend like Wanderlei—I don’t really even put him any higher than Leben. This guy is definitely overrated.
But I do like him, I feel bad for him and can understand where he’s coming from, but it’s times like this I respect guys like Koscheck who try to be the best, not look the best. There’s a difference. At least Koscheck’s not a poser. I’m not saying this guy is, but a lot of guys play on the hype.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
Good point
As much as I dislike Kos and Leben you have to respect their desire to fight anyone at anytime (aside from teammates and I’m on their side on that one), I much prefer that attitude than the petulance being shown by Sexyama here.
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
by David W-S on Jun 24, 2010 3:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
why don't you help me p(ro fighter)-unit
So he’s left handed? No one has ever taken a fight on short notice before! Hell Noons didn’t just take Huen on like 2 days notice and have a f*ckin high risk war against a way lesser name then Leben right? This sh*t happens lots! Read my other comments on this thread instead of acting like because you fought some dude in your backyard, that I now know nothing.
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 24, 2010 11:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
piss-unit saying "obviously none of you have trained" made me stop reading the rest.
I doubt it was interesting..
A fighter fights. A pussy makes excuses. No room for pussies here.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
A fighter fights. A pussy makes excuses. No room for pussies here.
Thats the bottom line.
Bullets dodge Fedor.
I disagree. That line of thinking is too black and white and does not take other factors into consideration. Some factors that we may know nothing about.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Agreed. We are just speculating.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
i like this WWF/E reference so ill reply here.
things happen, thats life, especially in the line of work he has chosen (i hear he i also a model/singer? lol) . Does it suck? of course, WAND is the bigger name, a legend! Leben is a TUF castoff. A loss to wand isnt as bad as a loss to leben and vice versa the win isnt as significant.
Does he “have the right to bitch about it” ?? sure, but he’ll be getting paid very well to compensate so i could care less. Leben is about as close to the style of WAND as Dana could produce on such short notice (aside from southpaw but what can you do).
the card selling has shit to do with Akiyama and everything to do with BROCK.
akiyama vs bisPING after this??
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 24, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that simple
Though Akiyama hasn’t had much exposure abroad, it’s safe to say that he has much more name recognition in East Asia (the second biggest MMA market) than say, Brock Lesnar or GSP. This fight with Wanderlei has indeed been hyped for about 12 months which means everything he’s prep’d for was for this showdown and Wanderlei only. Akiyama has everything to lose in this and Leben everything to gain. While I don’t see him being put in any advantages by going public like this against a Zuffa that doesn’t favor such acts, I do see why he’s upset and how he sees this as a lose-lose situation.
If Brock were to be replaced right now by Gonzaga I don’t think any of you would be saying the same thing, if Carwin had expressed his disapproval of the swap. Not to say that is the best comparison, but Akiyama has as much, if not more, name recognition and star power in a market that Zuffa needs to penetrate deeper if they’re going to take over the world. Fighting Leben is a huge set back for him and his concerns are legitimate.
However, as a fight fan, I’d rather see him fight Leben then sit out a event that’s going to be one of the biggest and best cards of the year.
Cote just lost to Belcher so that probably won’t happen. I like Sexy/Bisping though.
by HappyLittleTreez on Jun 24, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
unmotivated fighters without passion is boring and dangerous. with that said have any of you seen the new Jackie Chan Movie? It’s not what you think…
by Edgecrusher71 on Jun 24, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
There's very few "Legends" he could actually fight...
So why not someone who’s making a name for themselves like he is. No, not Leben. how about Nate the Great or Mark Munoz? Its been since Feb for Nate and April for Munoz…
If you wanna stand and bang, Jorge Rivera
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
Rivera wouldnt take the fight
he wants to fight in boston, but ur right! but…big names wouldn’t risk a fight on 12 days notice!
absolutely not.
Nor would the UFC offer it to them.
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
so he's stuck
if he wants to fight he has to fight Leben, if he wants a name he has to wait, either way, there is no wrong answer, it’s his risk/livelihood!
I feel like he's contradicting himself
He wants a big name, but he’s also bitching about only having 12 days to prepare. How would he feel if they gave him Nate, and said “here you go, a big name, now get ready!”. You think you wouldn’t want a top name replacement when you only have 12 days to prepare. He has the right to be annoyed, but he should keep it out of the media, because it just looks bad.
It's official....
Other than the main event.
This may be the worst card in UFC history. No other fight on the card has any sort of title implications or leads to even a contender match. Wow.
Brown vs Lytle? Jesus. Of course, anytime the card looks weak the fights somehow are awesome…but damn. Look at this card compared to 117. Take out the main evens and tell me which card would you rather see?
by StrikerDave on Jun 24, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Brown/Lytle means shit in terms of relevance for their division
But at least it should be fun to watch!!
same with Sotropilous(sp)/Pellegrino
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 24, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Leben's gameplan-
Brawl, walk like a zombie, and look for the big left hook like so…
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
IF YOU ARE IN JAY'S POOL, DON'T FORGET TO MAKE A PICK FOR AKIYAMA VS LEBEN!!!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
what cracks me up is how toned leben looked during that fight. i guess when he was taking steroids he just expected to get stronger and not walk around looking like he magically got an athletic body type.
I'm old school hating Lesnar, I've been hating Lesnar since '08
I'm going to start being the BE or KidNate of commenters, I'm just going to copy and paste your comments and say "I agree & Dana White sucks!"
I don't blame him.
Leben is a dangerous guy to fight and he really gains nothing.
by HappyLittleTreez on Jun 24, 2010 10:21 AM EDT reply actions
WOW Akiyama
If Sexy pulls out, he will be officially my most hated fighter. Fuck that shit, that’s pussy talk and he knows it.
Bullets dodge Fedor.
Agree. Who the fuck is he to say LEben isn't a big name?
Sexyama, who are you again? Nobody knew your name a year ago.
I really hope Leben knocks him out for this disrespect.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Hopefully, we will see Leben respond at some point today.
Let the shit storm begin.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
yep, I certainly hope Chris responds.
Maybe calling him a pussy would help lift Sexy’s spirits and motivate him?
Bullets dodge Fedor.
I really hope thats what this turns into
A one word response like that from Leben might just get it done.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I'm thinking something along the lines of
“If Sexy doesn’t wanna fight just send his sister over, I wouldn’t mind a few minutes of gnp with her” would probably get Sexy motivated to fight.
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by Dirty_Sanchez on Jun 24, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Keep us informed. Are you able to send him a message(no idea how twitter works)
Tell him Sexy is dissing him.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
LOL
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Me too.
I was already hoping he would. Now I am praying he does.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Leben’s best option here is to go with a South Park-style attack on Sexy and claim that Sexy is afraid to bring his tiny Japanese penis into the cage with a big American penis.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
How funny, PW. I was reading a book about Bret Hart in the wrasslin business and how he went to a sleaze show in Japan. He described prostitutes rolling condoms on tiny, thumb like cocks while sucking/fucking little Japanese businessmen. Funny stuff.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Ha ha
I had this ex GF that I stayed in contact with for a while. She wanted me to spy on some dude she was sort of seeing, make sure he wasn’t with some hoochie when she wasn’t around. She told me that when fully aroused the dude was the size of her pinky (she actually checked it once). I asked her why she was so interested in keeping a dude like that.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Lmao! Wut U know bout packing like that PW =D
by d*locc on Jun 24, 2010 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
gotta disagree...
casual fans may not have known him, but he has been well respected for at least 5 years. At least since he took out Kang and Manhoef.
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
Leben has fought more big names than Akiyama.
You could argue that Leben is a bigger name than Sexy. Especially here in the states. This is some pussy talk, and he needs to get over it and fight. This kind of attitude won’t get him far in the UFC. He should have no problem dismantling Leben. Leben is ultra predictable, so I don’t know what the hell he is worried about as far as gameplanning.
That's the fucking point
Nobody knows who Akiyama is. He needs a big name to establish himself among casual fans.
What aren’t people getting about this?
LOL. Exactly!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
well
he lost to Belcher IMO, he’s fought once since signing with the UFC. Its his fault he’s not getting the exposure that he wants. He is acting as though the UFC gave him an opponent with completely different skills as Wand. I could see his concern if he was matched with Mark Munoz or Maia, but Leben has no secrets. Left Hand. He hasn’t fought in a year, declining this fight will hurt his stock almost as much if he loses this fight. I pray to gods that he doesn’t back out and gets his face pummeled. If he thinks hes superior, prove it. bottom line.
That's the point. He has no stock to begin with for the casual MMA fans. That's why he wants Wand because he knows that Wand is a bigger feather in his cap than Leben.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Wand is definitely the bigger name, no doubt about it
but Wand is out til the New Years card or maybe even Superbowl weekend. If he doesn’t take this fight and doesnt wait for Wand, he won’t make it on a card until September maybe even October. If he dominates Leben, stays healthy, its a good win for him.
also
if he takes this fight and wins. He will definitely make his bosses happy and will have more leverage on who he fights and when.
Good point.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
what he is saying is code for
Give Sexy More Monday Zuffa
Mark Hominik vs Josh Grispi
Winner fights Aldo. WEC is noice.
by Bigger Zino on Jun 24, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
* Money
Mark Hominik vs Josh Grispi
Winner fights Aldo. WEC is noice.
by Bigger Zino on Jun 24, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
4 mondays a month sometimes 5. thats as high as we can go BZ
by Jimbobb on Jun 24, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Recd
"You eat what you kill, and that is all." -Shane Carwin
by James Anthony on Jun 24, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh... with Wandy getting hurt it does suck... but if Akiyama wants to back out like a bitch that is fine
As long as Carwin/Lesnar is still on I’m content.
Are you serious?
It sounds like he already making excuses for losing. I thought he lost against Belcher but no matter what he did not look good. I also think Leben is a bigger name than he is giving him credit for. A win over Leben makes you a legitimate threat of being a top contender. A loss over Leben definitely is a bigger hit than a loss to Wanderlei but this stuff happens you have to be prepared for anything. WAR LEBEN!
They are both brawlers too. Leben is basically a lesser version of Wanderlei.
by HappyLittleTreez on Jun 24, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree with this
this sucks though. There isn’t another worthy fight to move up. This is a big blow to this card if this shit goes down like Sexy is indicating.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
id be pissed if i were him too.
but thats the nature of this sport!
i think in most cases its a tougher fight for the guy still fighting than it is for the guy who stepped up…training to long for one person than having that person switched at last minuted who suck!
live simply.
there is no way UFC lets him back out.
Anyone taking leben yet? Sexy with over a year layoff and now unmotivated? Leben +250, anybody?
"You're in this dark tunnel and you've got no way out, you're waiting for light, and you see that light, what do you do? What do you do? You start digging, and getting out. ... I've always beleived you stay in the tunnel and you keep digging when you expect no light. You have the same faith when you expect no light. You have the same beleif in what you're doing when you expect no light. ... It's dark and I'm going to dig through. My shovel is sharp and my pick is sharp and my will is outstanding." --Rod Marinelli 2008 (on his way to that sweet 16!)
by DrewMoney$$$ on Jun 24, 2010 10:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Don't blame him at all
You train for an opponent you’ve even had to wait on, then get told he can’t fight, then instead of giving you someone of the same caliber to keep your career on the upswing they give you Leben! I’d be pissed as well if i was him. It’s like a buddy showing you pics of this super hot chick, you meeting her, calling her, setting up a great date, and then at the last second she tells you she can’t make it, but she’s sending her ugly friend over instead. UFC should have called him and said who would you like to fight man?
by MasterWhiteTiger on Jun 24, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah, like there were a ton of options on less than two weeks notice.
Wandy is out and it sounds like for some time so get over it. If Chris Leben is such an inferior opponent go out and kick his ass. Make Dana happy and he will make you happy.
Its a bad situation for both the UFC and the fighter. Sexy wants a big profile fight. Leben ain't it. We may not agree but he can bitch about it.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Agree OJR. Sexy has a lot more to lose than the UFC. Everyone is buying because of Carwin/Lesnar anyways. Sexy/Wanderlei was just the cherry on top.
by HappyLittleTreez on Jun 24, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Leben is known to the masses far more than Sexy is.
Leben should be complaining that Sexy is a no-namer.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
That's a good point, Jay.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I don't care about Sexyama. I can't spell his real name.
If he never fought again I wouldn’t care one bit.
This is probably the only time I’ve ever even discussed the man. He isn’t as popular in North America as he likes to think. And his dancing/strutting to the cage is annoying.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
Sorry, but his entrance against Belcher was epic. It’s not like he came out like King Mo. You sir have no taste.
by HappyLittleTreez on Jun 24, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Leben took the fight
He can’t complain he could have just said no, so in his mind Sexy is a name for him.
by MasterWhiteTiger on Jun 24, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
or he is simply a fighter who doesn't think about "names" and "matchups" and just simply does what he gets paid for without bitching
I go with that
Bullets dodge Fedor.
OK
So have you ever went to your job and not bitched about it? When you work for someone and they promise you one thing, and then you don’t get it you have the right to complain. Everyone in American complains, your complaining now because he’s complaining.
by MasterWhiteTiger on Jun 24, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyons in American complains?
what does that even mean?
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I find it funny when vast generalizations are applied
to anyone. People are people. Some of our biggest differences are a result of nothing more than our own insecurities.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
I agree
it seems to always be americans though, we r fat, lazy and now we complain. my guess is there are those types of people everywhere
Excellent post, Deuce.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
good thing freenow
is russian so that doesn’t apply to him!
Psalm 144:1 Thank the LORD, my rock, who trained my hands to fight and my fingers to do battle,
by the chubbster on Jun 24, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point. Leben was quick to accept. That just shows you who this fight favors as far as named opponents.
by HappyLittleTreez on Jun 24, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup. Carwin - Lesnar will move this card by itself. Sexy dropping out will not hurt it at all, IMO.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
It hurts me. This card is empty with the exception of the Lesnar fight.
I was looking forward to seeing this fight.
"Right Leg Hospital, Left Leg Cemetery " ~ Cro Cop.
"One time my wrist watch stopped from fear". ~ Cro Cop.
I don't understand the last sentence.
“We are working hard to resolve this issue” Is this just about an increase in pay because there is nothing to work out. You either fight Leben or you don’t. I doubt there is anybody else wanting to fight on such short notice that is “high profile”
It’s like a buddy showing you pics of this super hot chick, you meeting her, calling her, setting up a great date, and then at the last second she tells you she can’t make it, but she’s sending her ugly friend over instead.
but, ugly friend = you are guaranteed to tap @ss…..with less work.
an obvious disappointment, so just go out and take care of business quicker…….
i mean lets get real, what “bigger name” are you going to get on 2 weeks notice???
So what? You take the ugly friend, bend her over and fuck her doggy-style so you don’t have to look at her face, and call it a night.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
But what if by chance she gave you some kind of nasty STI?
Then when the hot chick is ready for the date, you can’t do it.
Wrap it before you tap it son. And you should always check out the goods before you make a purchase.
I know
but Ive banged literally over 100 chicks and like anyone (if anyone says no they r lying) I bagged some pigs. Im very lucky. You know, 2am after a Jimmy Buffet concert bent over the trunk of ur car after talking for 10 min type pigs!
LOL Kevin, I got the exact Jimmy Buffett tailgate tail after about 15 minutes last year. Except it was before the concert, and she had access to an RV.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Wow. I need to go to a Jimmy Buffett concert!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
lol
I have a similar story for steve miller band too. I remember the summer before my senior yr, we went to 3 consecutive Buffet shows, the last day I sold my ticket for 400, woke up the next morning in a kiddie pool, full of water, in the middle of my dads living room (he was in CA on vacation). I had no clue how I got there or what happened, fun times!
kevin im not lying
You can say it, but I don’t care lol. I haven’t fucked a fatty/pig ever. Never will now. Gotta good track record, why mess it up now. Call me a liar or whatever name. Boasting. Whatevs. Hasn’t happened.
Oh and it may have been a simpler time without doobs back then, but I still don’t use condoms ever. Knock on wood, but I’m limp right now. So maybe when I beat off here soon.
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 24, 2010 1:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I believe you Worbs. Canadian women tend to be in shape while the average American woman likes extra cheese on their bacon burger.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
good point OJR
and I believe you Worbs. How’s this, I never fucked a pig sober though. I remember one time I had a bash, I passed out only to wake up with a hefty girl riding me, I passed back out. Next thing I know she’s bragging to all her friends how good it was and this and that. I had to thank her, her bragging got me so much hot tail and I was literally sleeping!
lol fair enough
Defs helps not hurts with a girls friends, when you do her, in most cases. Anyways, I know it may be shallow to say what I did, but hopefully my explanation below helps elaborate and make more sense of why I piped up.
Cheers boys.
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 24, 2010 2:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Shallow? Please. I broke up a friendship between 2 girls because I nailed them both. No judgement from me over here, Worbs.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
U shud come 2 Cali beaches in so*cal I think U'll change yur mind ojr ;)
by d*locc on Jun 24, 2010 2:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dlocc - been there. Hottest women are in NYC, Los Angeles, Miami and Dallas.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
sorry if that is boasting and upsets ppl
..but I’m proud of that. May be silly to some, but I’m happy with it, just as I am the fact I have never tried drugs. EVER . I’ve smoked weed less then 10x my entire life and that’s it. Never smoke a cigarette in my life either. No hard liquor either. Just beer. So I’m proud of those things. I’ll never know the ‘joys’ of acid, ecstasy, coke, or fatty’s and I’m proud of it. So whatever. I unno.
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 24, 2010 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh worbs
weed=a drug, no ways around it unfortunately
alcohol is alcohol, doesn’t matter
but I do believe you only bag hot chicks.
and live a little, ecstasy and coke are awesome!
lol thats the prob!
I know weeds a drug. But every time I say to someone “Smoked weed less then 5-10x my whole life & that’s it”, they say “Oh pffft, weeds not a drug”, so I always get the opposite ha ha. Stupidness. Was waste of time too IMO. Only tried more then once cause I wanted to see why ppl loved it so much. Never did. Oh well.
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 24, 2010 2:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Worbs - only thing I can say ot that is good for you, mang. Also, you should wear a condom. You are playing sexual Russian Roulette.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I agree
I know it’s hypocritical, but I’ve been with my wife 10 yrs, so it’s a different generation Worbs. Esp in CA (not being a dick) but I’m sure ur in a small(ish) town where people fuck one another, if one person gets it, the whole town could. I’m from a small town and once had a conversation about this. there are 4 or 5 chicks I fucked that ended up being sluts, i bet 100s of people woulda been affected
but condoms realllllly suck
City I’m in is just under 300,000. Another city of 300,000ish is 200kms (115miles away). So I dunno how big that is on any scale. Maybe just below average in comparison to average US city? I worry sometimes. But I dunno. Fuck! Lol.
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 24, 2010 2:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you dont need to see it. YOU KNOW WHAT IT SAYS
Worbs quit while your ahead bro. I know several cool cats that were wishing they had right at the moment. Bad news for one and triple bad news for the other
Mark Hominik vs Josh Grispi
Winner fights Aldo. WEC is noice.
by Bigger Zino on Jun 24, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
what a baby
Seriously……I can’t believe his bitching. It sucks but Chris is at a disadvantage too having come off a fight a week ago with little to prepare as well. It’d be one thing if it was a contender fight…….so suck it up or go to Strikeforce…
Easy win for Akiyama i think. Either way if he wins people will say oh but Leben only fought last week and if he loses people will say that he sucks really bad for the same reason.
Akiyama will pick him apart for UD.
"Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional." - Roger Crawford.
He is acting as though the UFC gave him an opponent with completely different skills as Wand. I could see his concern if he was matched with Mark Munoz or Maia, but Leben has no secrets. Left Hand. He hasn’t fought in a year, declining this fight will hurt his stock almost as much if he loses this fight. I pray to gods that he doesn’t back out and gets his face pummeled. If he thinks hes superior, prove it.
BOOOOOO!!!!
Do it for the $$$ then and make Zuffa an agreement that you auto get Wandy next win/lose to redeem yourself or help give fans the original fight. I see where you’re coming from, but man up. And get you some paper!
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 24, 2010 10:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Seriously, if anything this is HUGE leverage for an under the table bonus. Maybe Sexy isn’t in it for the $$$? Maybe he just wants to add big names to the resume.
by HappyLittleTreez on Jun 24, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
lol they ALL do it for money
Unless you’re Fedor :D
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 24, 2010 10:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
short notice...
He is right! He spent almost the whole time training for Wand and now hes offered to fight Leben, it sux. We’ve seen it many times, the guys that take short notice fights usually do very well! Ala Brilz/Nog
Just circle the other way, pussy
Same gameplan.
Seriously, first he cheats against Sakuraba and now this?
Never thought I’d say this, but fuck his face, Leben.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
by Johnny WF on Jun 24, 2010 10:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Also
Jardine bitched about not having high-level opposition before fighting Houston.
It doesn’t bode well for the guy who says it.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
by Johnny WF on Jun 24, 2010 10:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
i'd rather wait.
Sure a fight is a fight, but when i heard wandy was out i was disapointed. Leben is not a quality replacment in my opinion, i’d rather wait and hope we can see the original fight a few months down the line.
I might be wrong but.......
is a fighter a guy who loves to fight no matter who his opponent is. Or is a fighter a guy that is well organized and extremely methodical with tons of time to prepare for a fight? I guess if Akiyama ever gets cornered in a bar and a guy wants to hurt him he probably say “for me to determine your threats and the time is insufficient for me to establish a tailored gameplan”. Just sayin’.
The taste of blood......beautiful.
i agree but..
If Yoshihiro had beatin Wanderlei there were probably some title shot opportunity’s. A win over leban may do the same but wont push him as much with the fans.
by Coburn Dean Carmichael on Jun 24, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Off Topic here:
Anyone else loving Slovakia right now? Half an hour more and Italy is out of the World Cup!
Bullets dodge Fedor.
I just read ESPN. France's debacle in the WC has caused the the government to look into it. Simply awesome. Things must be great in France if the government has nothing else to do. Packing my bags...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
haha what are they going to look into? how much they suck?
such a statement by the government is pure hilarity.
Bullets dodge Fedor.
Not a soccer fan but alot of big upsets in this WC, right? Which favorites are left?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
pretty much the entire top 10 is there
sans Italy and France.
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again."
Not pleased in the slightest...
I’ve been calling this fight ever since Wandy spoke of moving to 185!
Sexy needs to man up and fight Leben. It’s not like he has to train for an entirely different style in one week. If anything, Leben is just a watered-down version of Wand!
He has no reason for excuses. He’s more-or-less fighting the style he trained for. If he was ready to beat Wandy, then he should be ready to beat Leben, in which case he’ll end up getting a higher-profile fight anyway.
Arlovski : Kang : GSP : Rampage : Lytle : Huerta : Quarry : Serra : Wandy : Pulver : Alvarez
dont blame him
I noticed the UFC is really pushing Leban but I dont blame Yoshihiro for being upset. I still think this could be fight of the night
by Coburn Dean Carmichael on Jun 24, 2010 11:24 AM EDT reply actions
Who the fuck does this asshole think he his?
He’s NOBODY in the UFC, thats right NOBODY.
He hasnt even got a single legit win, he got ONE gift decision in his ONE and only fight, and he thinks he can dictate who to fight?
Roflmao, I hope Leben literally kills him.
by Lester The Pimp on Jun 24, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions
Im With You
This fuckface needs to have more than 1 win before he should be talking about pulling out of the fight, you’re suppose to be a fighter so go fight and stop complaining!
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
His only concern should be a loss
and with that said, preparing for Chris is nowhere near as hard as for Wandy. The gameplan is a bs excuse and he wants a big name so he could be in title contention. What i have to say is that if you cant beat a Chris then you shouldnt be in title contention anyway…I got Leben by knock out
amen brotha, you took the words out of my mouth
if he thinks hes so superior, prove it.
Akiyama will fight - 2nd round W by submission
Yeah the game plan thing is BS. Planning for Leben is like planning to go take a piss. He just said that b/c he’s not as into this fight. And at 34 years old with a chance at The Axe Murderer pulled out from underneath your feet? I don’t blame him a bit…that is, as long as he steps up and fights. Come on – you’re 34 and have a chance to fight a huge name in Silva. Money and glory if you win. If he beats Leben it’s only the $$. If he loses his stock drops dramatically. Fighting Leben is like fighting Jardine or Big Daddy Goodridge back in the day. He’s gone from fighting a legend just out of title contention to fighting a mid-level gatekeeper. I’d be disappointed too (but still fight).
SEXY IS A DOUCHE
If you want a big name, beat up Leben. You look like you got hit by a truck after the Belcher fight…..Seriously be a man
Leben is more dangerous than both Jardine and Goodridge
More like Matt Brown or Clay Guida
Akiyama sounds like a puss...
Well guess what Akiyama you ARE a fighter right? Then fucking fight pussy he is acting like he has earned his say in who he fights. Fight or GTFO!
xbox gt = Cr0wnedTerror Let's play gears2 and Undisputed.
LOL he isn’t a slave in Roman times.
I could see if he was coming off a loss but he is an established fighter w/ a legit name. I think he deserves a say.
by HappyLittleTreez on Jun 24, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with Sexy on this one.
Anyone who has a change of opponent days before the fight has to be not feeling it. The good thing about Leben is that he will come forward throwing punches like Wand would do. Who knows maybe he will even KO him. I agree with what he has to say about it, he better not lose.
What about Leban,
he’s taking the fight on short notice, same as him, with no game plan, and he also just fought, Leban is stepping up to the plate, why can’t sexy?
What a puss, I hope Leban smashs him if it goes down.
I don't think sexy pulls out of the fight. Lebens a tuff dude & props for stepping up but going from the living legend (Wand) to leben is a huge let down I don't care who U are!
Wand took on a 300lbs somoan monster on 3 days notice! Thts a true warrior right there! Sexy vs. Leben is still a cool fight but still disapointed 2 not see Wand in the cage.
by d*locc on Jun 24, 2010 1:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
man, I was really looking forward to seeing this fight, but it’s understanable why he doesn’t want to risk taking the leben fight. Whatever he decides to do, no love lost. Still a fan!
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Hey Lil Pinga - according to Bret Hart, Japanese businessmen have lil pingas!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
me think lil pinga is a woman and she has a huge clitoris.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Craig Thompson just might end up being a savvy guy if he gets the MWC to 12 teams. The University of Utah starts in the Pac-Ten in 2011. Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c he is a far superior wrestler and a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. Last man to win a round vs Gsp. 2.9/1 odds on that too. Peace.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Jun 24, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
followed by Caucasians! Who's bret hart? I concur tho, 'cause I felt like mandingo when I was stationed there...
WATCH KALIB RUN = MMA PIRATE at watchkalibrun.com
I just think your screenname is funny, man.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
i bet the ufc bows down to this guys wishes. lol.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. Craig Thompson just might end up being a savvy guy if he gets the MWC to 12 teams. The University of Utah starts in the Pac-Ten in 2011. Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day". Rashad will beat Rua b/c he is a far superior wrestler and a bad matchup for him. 2/1 odds. Josh Koscheck will dethrone Gsp and win the welterweight title. Last man to win a round vs Gsp. 2.9/1 odds on that too. Peace.
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