Cung Le vs Scott Smith rematch confirmed for Strikeforce: 'Fedor vs Werdum'
by MMAmania.com on Jun 2, 2010 8:27 PM EDT
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Hard-hitting middleweight Scott Smith will indeed be out to prove that his sensational come-from-behind knockout of ex-Strikeforce 185-pound Champion, Cung Le, was no fluke when the middleweights hook 'em again at Strikeforce: "Fedor vs. Werdum" from the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif., on June 26.
The promotion today made the long-rumored match up official for its upcoming event on Showtime.
"Hands of Steel" first met Le back at Strikeforce: "Evolution" last December, where the part-time movie star battered him for the better part of three rounds. Apparently, Le forgot to read the manual on Smith's third round heroics and got caught in one of his patented Hail Mary "miracles" in the bout's final minutes.
Repeat -- or retaliation? We will find out soon enough.
Strikeforce: "Fedor vs. Werdum," which will air live on Showtime at 10 p.m. ET on fight night, will feature Fedor Emelianenko taking on grappling wizard Fabricio Werdum in the main event. Current Strikeforce Women's Champion Cristian "Cyborg" Santos will also be in action against Jan "Cuddles" Finney.
For more on Strikeforce: "Fedor vs. Werdum" click here.
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why is cung a bum? super fun to watch and comes to fight...
hate for no reason?
I can’t believe Rashad ‘Sugad’ all over Rampage at 114. Quittin Jackson was a bad choice from the start and I think he needs to now consider retirement. Fedor too!
BZ – 2 Freenow82 – 0
His flashy shit is a lot more impressive and entertaining to watch
than Anderson Silvas’. Cung Le is always entertaining. He could have easily taken the safe option and stopped engaging Smith in his last fight, and danced around till the time ran out, but he didn’t . He wanted to keep up the action until the very end. He lost because of it (and Scotts head as well as hands of steel), but I had to give him credit for that. Scotts chin is absolutely amazing for taking punishment, the Pete Sell and Nick Diaz fights were brutal. Nate Quarry has a chin on him as well, but you really have to wonder how much more of that he should be taking.
cung is going to demiloish smith this time!
hem was abusing Smith for the entire fight til, he went on cruise control, and got caught! That cant possibly happen again! Le, is the vastly supperior striker, and wont be battling ring rust this time around.
Smiths body will get battered with kicks!
Kev can hate all he wants, Im not a big Le fan, but he is fun to watch, and he has a great chance against any other 1 dimensional strikers. He is actually one of the best 1 dimensional strikers in mma!
DREAM FIGHT:
Cung Le vs. Melvin Manhoef!!!!! Book that shit NOW!!!!
I agree Freenow. Cung Le has great form and is fun to watch.
With all due respect Kev, I think Frank Shamrock’s broken arm attests to the fact that Le is not all flash.
lol dont bother... kevins a mystery
Ill never understand him.
House of 1000 Worbses
by daniel worby on Jun 3, 2010 1:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Me either............
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
Dragon, you forgot your confused face.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
why the so recent rematch?
Next prediction -- Martin Kampmann submits Paulo Thiago
Counting down the days till Shogun vs Rogerio 2 (which now seems to have increased dramatically)
of course thats a part of the reason
I don’t claim them to be deep in fact I say they should be given leniency to matches like this for that very reason. You just claim all they have is Shields and Diaz. I’m not that naïve to agree.
Perhaps my post below may help a bit.
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by daniel worby on Jun 2, 2010 8:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
busting balls worbs
and they have Fedor and overeem too! Melendez isn’t too bad either. who else do they have? AA and Rogers?!
now your supporting overeems legitimacy?
Just yesterday you dismissed him cause he only fought for SF once in so long. Rogers and AA would both get creamed by Mo Lawal even with the size diff.
House of 1000 Worbses
by daniel worby on Jun 2, 2010 9:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
thats true. your exact words were that diaz/shields were the only two that could compete in ufc
My bad for taking that as saying overeem and fedor and the likes aren’t worthy.
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by daniel worby on Jun 2, 2010 10:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cuz it's strikeforce
They need to get mileage out of their fighters because they run out of match ups pretty quick.
Shogun lost a close decision! Everyone get crazy!
No idea
Chump Le doesnt deserve to fight Smith again after getting ktfo ^
by Lester The Pimp on Jun 2, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
so dont watch since you clearly hate the org
Bunch of whiny babies man, honestly. So closed minded.
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by daniel worby on Jun 2, 2010 9:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
idk man..
u complain alot about the UFC alot and yet u still watch that, UFC has the better fighters and better match ups all together, i like strikeforce but to defend them simply because they hav fedor isn’t right..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
if you think thats my only reason to watch sf ur nuts
I don’t bash ufc. I bash danas mouth and the lack of pay the fighters receive. So what? Ufc should have better fights and fighters. Their a better and more successful org. So?
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by daniel worby on Jun 2, 2010 9:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
im not opposed to this rematch at all
I want Smith to win again for sure, but I understand what happened is rare and out of nowhere so I get them wanting Smith to prove he can do it again. Its not outlandish like some say.
I mean look at Russow. If they wanted to do him vs Duff 2 I’d get why. If he proves it again so be it. If not and its entertaining they have a possible rubber match set up.
Go Smith!
House of 1000 Worbses
by daniel worby on Jun 2, 2010 8:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Difference being that Russow winning was 1 of the all time fluke victories of all time. At least Smith has an established pattern of pulling off this kind of victory.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
* I don't think I mentioned all time enough times
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Ahk.. Hell no it wasn't
Duffee had one fight in the UFC before this, he’s an unproven, untested fighter and he’s a 253 lbs guy with no fat on his body. I mean if the guy was a big name and had a reputation as a fearsome striker with tons of experience I could see it being an “all time” shocker. However…
I can’t count how many times I’ve seen someone with that type of physique lose a fight cause they gassed and got slower/sloppy.
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 3, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
ya thats similar to how I see it
If we knew he has no chin, noone would think much of it.
I can’t believe Rashad ‘Sugad’ all over Rampage at 114. Quittin Jackson was a bad choice from the start and I think he needs to now consider retirement. Fedor too!
BZ – 2 Freenow82 – 0
I think he's got a ton of potential
Depends on how he rebounds off this loss, but as it stands; unless Duffee goes on to become a destroyer in the UFC HW division, I can’t really justify labeling this come back as one of the greatest of all time.
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 3, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't go comparing Russow to Smith
Smith has made a carreer out of this comeback shit..
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 3, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
And don't call it a comeback..
Smith’s been here for years..
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 3, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Shit, sorry OD
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 3, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea that's right bitch
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 3, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
nah..
they just want cung to win like he was supposed to, smith can’t prove hes the better fighter cause he clearly got lucky. im a smith fan but he has nuthing to prove in this fight just another loss..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
why rematch?
The first match wasn’t controversial, why do a rematch? Shouldn’t they fight other people or is strikeforce out of matchups?
becasue smith was losing 30-26
and he was getting bulldozed the whole fight until he won
lol exactly... why is this hard to understand?
If its not a fluke prove it. If it is so be it. I dunno bout you guys but if I’m Smith and you pay me, and I win, then you say “Would you fight him again next?”, I’d say “I make same amount, and skyrocket to the top if I win?”, the inevitable “Yes.”, seals the deal for me.
I wanna see Manhoef/Lawler 2 as well. They were entertaining as hell.
House of 1000 Worbses
by daniel worby on Jun 3, 2010 8:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Smiths comeback against cung was 1 of the best ever!
I hope he gets lucky again. I wud rather see cung vs. Manhoef or lawler. I really want 2 see lawler rematch manhoef that lucky bastard!
by d*locc on Jun 2, 2010 10:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
cant wait.
I want to see Le get KTFO one more time.
by LJchamp on Jun 2, 2010 10:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
There is no such thing as a fluke in MMA.
Cung couldn’t finish and paid the price. Duffee couldn’t finish and Russow owned him in the 3rd. In MMA the end is just one punch away. There are no flukes.
I can’t believe Rashad ‘Sugad’ all over Rampage at 114. Quittin Jackson was a bad choice from the start and I think he needs to now consider retirement. Fedor too!
BZ – 2 Freenow82 – 0
Russow was a fluke victory - do not kid yourself.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
again, there are no flukes
did you have money on duffee or something? he has no chin and no endurance, it was actually pretty simple. uncharacteristic of you to cling so tightly to this, something must be going on :)
I can’t believe Rashad ‘Sugad’ all over Rampage at 114. Quittin Jackson was a bad choice from the start and I think he needs to now consider retirement. Fedor too!
BZ – 2 Freenow82 – 0
Not at all. I just think being grossly out of shape, taking punches for almost 3 rds and connecting with less than 10 punches for the entire fight should be solely classified as fluke. Now, Russow's punches were not a fluke but the victory in itself?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
well I guess it's just a matter of definition
From Webster:
1 : an accidentally successful stroke at billiards or pool
2 : a stroke of luck
So the victory was neither a stroke of luck in my opinion nor accidental. It was a direct result of Duffee not able to finish and Russow landing just 2 punches that were needed.
I think if we knew that Duffee has no chin, noone would even be talking about it being a fluke.
I can’t believe Rashad ‘Sugad’ all over Rampage at 114. Quittin Jackson was a bad choice from the start and I think he needs to now consider retirement. Fedor too!
BZ – 2 Freenow82 – 0
I will go with 2) stroke of luck with his Homer Simpson way of winning. Take punches until the other guy gets tired and then win.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
haha agreed to disagree then
I will accept the Homer Simpson response, also cause Duffee is similar to Duff beer. And Homer slams those down like their nothing.
I can’t believe Rashad ‘Sugad’ all over Rampage at 114. Quittin Jackson was a bad choice from the start and I think he needs to now consider retirement. Fedor too!
BZ – 2 Freenow82 – 0
Meh...
I’m just not high on immediate rematches unless there was some sort of controversy in the first fight, or unless it was just that close.
there was controversy
Read the posts in this thread. Everyone says it was fluke. Half say he can repeat this, half say Smith gets him like first thought. When you’re losing a 5 round fight by 4 rounds, and getting obliterated, then TKO a guy, it raises eyebrows on whether you could EVER do somthing like that again.
House of 1000 Worbses
by daniel worby on Jun 3, 2010 8:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wasn't it a 3 round fight?
I can’t believe Rashad ‘Sugad’ all over Rampage at 114. Quittin Jackson was a bad choice from the start and I think he needs to now consider retirement. Fedor too!
BZ – 2 Freenow82 – 0
whoops sorry typing too fast
Lol ya clearly. Sorry I’m just new here. Just googled the rules. Did you guys know they only make em 5 rounds if there’s a title on the line? Interesting little tidbit.
O_o
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by daniel worby on Jun 3, 2010 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I did not know that...
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 3, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
OD - Russow fight...fluke or no fluke?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I called it 3 mins into rd 1. Not the KO, but I said Duffee would lose after seeing him suck wind 3 mins into the fight
I don’t know; personally after rd. 1 I saw a Duffee loss as inevitable.
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 3, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I am outnumbered but I will be back...*fading into the shadows*
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I'd a say a fluke is more like Lutter vs Eastman or Randleman vs Cro Cop
Where the guy is getting his ass kicked and his opponent is still showing no signs of tiring, then a bomb out of nowhere. I saw Duffee try to finish the guy 3 times in rd 1 and I knew he wasn’t going to be able to get it done after that.
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 3, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you OJ...fluke. Not in the sense that it was complete luck, but there was definitely a sizable portion of luck in that equation. He HAD to KO him to win the fight, and up until that point had shown no signs of being able to accomplish that.
I am currently wearing a very tight wrestling singlet from Michigan State while admiring a poster of Rashad on my bedroom wall. *Sighing wistfully*
Thing is, I don’t think there’s anything controversial about finishing your opponent. The results speak for themselves. Maybe if there was an unrecognized illegal strike that precipitated it or something like that, but that didn’t happen in the Smith/Le fight.
I mean, to pull a random example from some time ago, should Kos have gotten an immediate rematch w/ Drew Fickett ? Because he was beating him right up until Drew slapped that RNC on him.
The only controversy I see is that Cung Le fans and promoter expected a Le win, but Smith didn’t get that script.
I’m not against a rematch between the two per se, but an immediate rematch like this seems to disrespect what Smith pulled off in the fight, IMO.
It's just a good fight
StrikeForce doesn’t have the roster to be a real org and develope a divison “ladder” for their contenders to climb.
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 3, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
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