Fedor Emelianenko considering retirement -- not a career in the UFC
"Fighting for my country and my heritage is what motivates me. Nothing else ... I'm not a UFC fan, so I believe our fight is more important (than Lesnar vs. Carwin). I'm not a fan of watching UFC fights. There is always a lot of negativity coming out of their fights. I don't want to look too far ahead, I'm just focusing on Werdum. We have two fights left with Stirkeforce, and assuming everything goes well, I don't see any reason why we wouldn't continue the relationship. But I am considering retirement more and more often now. I'd like to finish out my contract without any losses and then just see what God has planned for me."
Top ranked heavyweight and Strikeforce marquee attraction Fedor Emelianenko talks to media heading into his June 26 contest against Fabricio Werdum with an eye to the future -- which to the chagrin of many mixed martial arts fans doesn't appear to include a run under the UFC banner. "The Last Emperor" was being courted by the Zuffa zealots on more than one occasion but Dana White and the Fertitta brothers could never find a middle ground with M-1 Global. If Emelianenko manages to defeat "Vai Cavalo," a much-anticipated title fight with Alistair Overeem awaits. Will Fedor ride off into the sunset as Strikeforce heavyweight champion?
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He wants no part of the UFC so he might as well talk a little shit
I don’t even think he’ll fight Ovaries
by SHORT_BUS on Jun 19, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
“I’d like to finish out my contract without any losses”
I’d say that little quote speaks volumes about why he has no interest in fighting in the UFC
I disagree. People who fight for a living are not chicken. Its all business and big picture decision making for Fedor. Be reasonable, people.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I can't wait for DW's response!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Exactly. And people will wonder why Fedor says "negativity." There you go.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Whaaa
Dana has a potty mouth so I don’t want to fight for his company. That’s code for “I don’t want to get raped by Brock, JDS, Carwin, Cain…..”
I agree SB but I am a thick skinned American asshole who is used to potty mouths. I can't speak for a religious Russian native. I got no answers, just reasonable guesses...and PUSSY is NOT on that list.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I always thought us Americans had very thin skin but I guess not.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Not even close. We are very thick skinned compared to other cultures.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Especially when it comes to arrogance and vulgarities.
"You made your decision, now live with your decision"
remember what the mpaa says
Horiffic, deplorable violence is ok… as long as people don’t use any naught word!
by HitokiriX on Jun 19, 2010 3:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He said negativity when it comes to the fights
Does he mean hyping a fight? Is having 3 of your belt holders break out into fisticuffs during a post fight interview negative? Just sayin…
I bet it goes down at the post fight press conference tonight.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
But OJR, if its business
wouldn’t taking the UFC’s money be good business? I don’ t think its business at this point for Fedor, it think its Legacy. The man is smart enough to know he’s not who he used to be. He knows there’s bigger competition waiting for him and he’d rather save the 0 losses, than risk it for a big payday.
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
If you ask me...
Most people who post on this site are why Fedor isn’t interested in the UFC. The Amercan fans (I bleed red white & blue by the way) are complete idiots! I watch every UFC and can hear booing in almost every fight. There’s a complete disrespect for the sport and what these guy go through to get ready for a fight! Everyone wants highlight real knockouts in every fight or else it’s boring. Spoiled little bitches – I grew up watching boxing – nothing like watching guys dance for 12 rounds. Saying Fedor is scared is yet another example of the complete lack of knowledge most posters shave! Nothing personal against you daftshadow – you just happened to be at the top.
by Tony6Ringz on Jun 19, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
+3
Tell the morons! Great post man. Great!
*ABM*
Wor Wor binks was Star Worbs best character.
by daniel worby on Jun 19, 2010 3:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
Tony, OJR, Dice, Worby
So Strikeforce has different “fans” than the UFC? Those “American” fans are the same ones watching both promotions! Tony, you say “a complete lack of knowledge” but you think the “fans” that watch Strikeforce are different than the ones that watch the UFC?
“Id like to finish out my contract without any losses” that says it all! The fighter thats going to beat Fedor is a wrestler who can stay out of subs. And the UFC is full of them. Thats his reason for not coming over!
by JV. on Jun 19, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
France is red, white and blue too. Just sayin’.
Our lives change like the weather, but a legend never dies.
Talk about hitting the nail on the head. Perfect response. I don’t think Fedor is scared one bit, but he puts his faith in his managment, and there scared shitless a wresler that is bigger faster and stronger that can avoid the sub will beat him. Outside of the hardcore fan Fedor isn’t a huge draw, and M-1 knows if he loses there left with a GREAT HW that noone fears. I enjoy Fedor fighting but if he losses he doesn’t have shit for leverage on what he makes. And NOONE will put up with the M-1 co-promotion bullshit
by LOKIE on Jun 20, 2010 12:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lokie.... When Fedore retires wouldn't that also destroy M-1's leverage?
The only other guys I know of that they have are Gegar and the shitty Red Devil fighters like “Baby Fedor”.
by naturalshadow on Jun 20, 2010 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow....
Fedore = Fedor
Gegar= Gegard
It is late here. ha
by naturalshadow on Jun 20, 2010 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Mousassi told them to hit the bricks. And yeah if he retires there done but if fedor loses you think there going to make what they could have if they keep him out of the ufc
by LOKIE on Jun 20, 2010 11:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gr8 post Tony!
When’s the last time fedor got boo’d at 1 of his fights?! NEVER!
by d*locc on Jun 19, 2010 3:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thx Fellas!
Good to know there’s some people on here who know what’s up……Too bad we’re out numbered 10 to 1!
Honestly...
no matter what country you’re from, if you’re a Fedor fan and don’t want him to keep proving he’s the best by fighting the best then you’re a dumbass. Fedor said himself that he wants to remain undefeated which should tell dumbass Fedor nut huggers everywhere that he’s scared to come to the UFC. Keep hating on America from afar though. It’s like the popular jock you talked shit about behind his back but then kissed his ass while talking to him.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
When did he say he wants to 'remain undefeated'?
Once again, what fighter or professional athlete would want to lose?
Are you serious?
He said “I’d like to finish out my contract without any losses” which is what all fighter would like but when you avoid the top company than it shows his character.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
Top fighters want to fight the best fights...
and prove they’re the best. Fedor wants to stay undefeated. I think anybody who’s competed will understand this.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
Fedor has fought the best the last 15 years.
The last year or 2 up & comers showed up as real threats 2 th HW division. If U wud have been on mania fo the last couple years U can hear how everybody was ripping on either Cain, Shane, & even brock as jokes. Now in their last couple fights every1 has a change of heart & fedor can’t hang with any of them & been ducking them for years. Haaaaahaaa! Give me f’ing break! Fedor despises Dana white plain & simple that’s y he won’t go 2 the ufc. Fedor can retire whenever he wants & will always be known as the best HW ever.
by d*locc on Jun 19, 2010 5:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Only by Fedor nut huggers.
I can’t respect a top fighters not wanting to fight the best to protect his already padded record. If that’s the case than retire already instead of fighting the chicken shit fights. I suppose you also think that Mayweather doesn’t duck Pac man either?
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
I respect Joyce Gracie more than Fedor cause...
he could have stayed out of the UFC while clueless fans talked about what if he came back and if he could still run things. He stepped up and lost like a man. I’m sure he didn’t want to lose that way but still stepped up. Granted I think Fedor would do alot better but to think he’d beat Lesnar, Carwin, Cain, JDS and Mir is just ridiculous. He’d lose at least some of those especially since he had trouble with Rogers.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
"I'd like to finish out my contract without any losses..."
I assume that you, in your infinite wisdom, understands that Fedor is talking about his time AFTER his contract is up with SF. And of course you understand then that he might be thinking he only have about 2 more good fights in him before its time to call it. And of course you understand that going to the UFC will prolly mean that he have to fight 5 times. But maybe you like fighters ending up like Chuck? Such a blind hater like yourself, make me want to vomit.
"said himself he wants 2 remain undefeated "
Can U name a fighter that wants 2 lose when he steps in th ring?
by d*locc on Jun 19, 2010 5:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
can you name a fighter who...
gets a great offer to come to the UFC only to turn it down because they want to remain unbeaten? lol Thought not. Of course no fighter wants to lose, that point make no sense. When a guy says this but never comes to the top comapny then that shows his true color I think. Nug huggers will believe what they want but all of you would rather see him in the UFC too.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
Fans boo in every org did you not watch the last SF event?! LOL
Complete disrespect for the sport?! Yeah I call making up excuses trying to put an org down that your not in discraceful. Just because he’s a living legend doesn’t mean every word coming out of his mouth is law and correct this time Fedor was being more like Dana than Fedor.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Real talk Tony
You hit the nail on the head. Fedor earns my upmost respect for sticking to his beliefs and not giving a flying fuck about what the spoiled ignorant american fans want to see.
" Its a good thing you look good in that suit, cos that's all you're gonna be doing - wearing a suit."
by dec3ptiKon_ on Jun 19, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony, whilst I see exactly where you're coming from...
I have to disagree. The fighters are out to create personas for themselves. They play up a character. The people who get boo’d usually play the part of someone worth boo’ing. Also, a lot of the people that boo’d are guys who are fighting hometown guys. Other than that, who gets boo’d that shouldn’t get boo’d?
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
He's taking the bitches way out.
by The5thBeatle on Jun 19, 2010 1:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He said it himself....
he doesn’t want to lose. That’s why he stays away from the UFC cause he knows he’s not the best anymore. Pride days are gone. I don’t think he could come to the UFC and beat everybody. That’s crazy.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
I think he would go 2-2 in the UFC. He is 34, too old to be undefeated in the UFC.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Sadly we'll never know.
Out of Lesnar, Carwin, JDS, Cain and Mir. Somebody would beat him. I’m actually a Fedor fan but I hate the mindless Fedor fans who think he’s unbeatable and stick up for him for dodging the best company. Even worse were the dip shits who said the UFC wasn’t the best company. lol You don’t see to many of them anymore. Proofs in the pudding!
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
by Oswald on Jun 19, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Fedor would lose to a healthy Brock and a prime Carwin. He would beat Mir and Cain. JDS I am not too sure about because I have not seen his GG.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I'd agree with that.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
How many years has Carwin fought compared to Fedor?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Why?
" I don’t think he could come to the UFC and beat everybody. That’s crazy."
Why is that crazy…he beat everybody in Pride, Bodog, Affliction, and soon to be Strikeforce. Why is it unreasonable to think he can still win.
Nice try hater,
TRUTH
Brett Rogers, Andrei Arlovski, Tim Sylvia , Hong Man Choi, Matt Lindland, Mark Hunt Mark Coleman, Wagner da Conceicao Martins, Mirko Filipovic, Tsuyoshi Kosaka, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Naoya Ogawa, Kevin Randleman, Yuji Nagata, Gary Goodridge, Kazuyuki Fujita, Egidijus Valavicius, Heath Herring, Semmy Schilt, Chris Haseman Lee Hasdell, Ryushi Yanagisawa, Renato Sobral, Kerry Schall, Mihail Apostolov, Tsuyoshi Kosaka, Ricardo Arona, Hiroya Takada, Levon Lagvilava, Martin Lazarov
THIS IS WHY HE IS NOT THE BEST OF ALL TIME!! his record is smeared with B level fighters and the odd C level!! Many of which he struggled to beat. There are like 3 names on that resume that hold any weight as legitimate fights for a pfp argument.
I honestly wish people would stop rubbing this guys nuts, he hasnt fought anyone of any relevance to the hw division in years and the sport itself has evolved so much since the days of pride so stop hanging on to that aswell!! He may well be the best (which i doubt), but until he fights the guys that have forced the old and inferior champs down the pecking order then he aint no pfp greatness pure and simple!!!
As for the chuck comment…atleast he seeked out the best in the world and never ducked a single fight, hell he even went to pride in an attempt to fight the fight everyone wanted to see wandi v chuck!! Sure as hell dont see the GREAT fedor doing that hes happier fighting the list above!!!
by the real mo on Jun 19, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
Fedor has no interest in fighting the best in the world.
He can polish off his impressive resume with a couple easy wins and then call it a career.
It’s unfortunate. If Fedor had the balls to put his pristine career on the line and fight the best, he would have been beloved by fans around the world. As it is, he’ll be beloved in Russia and Japan, while the rest of the world won’t even remember who he was.
"We love going to Canadian cities and beating Canadian teams." - Drew Doughty
If he fights the Reem you wont hear me say anything bad about him
But boy did i want this -
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
I believe that fight would have be bigger than any other super fight. Ever.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
This just goes to show...
that at one point in his career it was just about his maintaining his aura of invinnsibility. He is a great fighter, but protecting his legacy will most likely tarnish it. Now we can see that it was fedor who didn’t want to go to the UFC and test himself and we don’t have to blame Vladim for it.
Looks like we'll never know
Bottom line is if Fedor doesn’t come to the UFC or at the very least fight Overeem than I don’t know how people say he’s the best ever. Is he great, yes he is but we’ll never truly know how good he is unless he takes out top fighters, which he did in Pride. Not Tim Slyvia and Arlovski who the UFC cut when they (the UFC) seen they were on the decline and Im sure money had a lot to do with it too. To answer the question is Fedor the best ever or even best heavyweight? Then he has to fight the best and right now the best heavyweights are in the UFC. Before I thought it was Fedor’s management preventing him to come to the UFC, now it seems like Fedor himself doesn’t want to come to the UFC. Is he scared he might loose? I think so, guys like Lesnar and Carwin are just too big, but it looks like we’ll never see Fedor fight any of them
Just FYI...Arlovski was NOT cut by the UFC....He simply did not resign with them after his contract was up
I like bacon...and Rashad Evans is a pussy
I can't Blame Fedor though. Who the hell would want to fight Brock
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc210/panthers050/BrockLesnarVsHeathHerring.gif
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
The negativity he is talking about, I would like to know what from a gut that doesn't speak english?
Maybe M1’s transolators have been adding negative comments about what is said after the fights? I don’t see how any negativity that comes out of the UFC is different than any other event?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
He is obviously referring to DW's tirades after the negotiations break down. I want to see Fedor in the UFC too but at his age you have to think about retirement. He is going on 34.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
What do you expect him to say?
He’s under contract with SF so he can’t talk about himself going to UFC or being in the UFC. However, this news is kind of depressing, if true.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Wow
Im officially off the Fedor bandwagon. I always thought/hoped it was just a legit hatred of the UFC that stopped him from signing which I can kind of see because they are extremely strict with contracts but and even argued it quite a bit but, damn, he just threw all that out the window. I bow before the anti Fedor guys agrumentitive and observational prowress….the guy is dodging fights.
Wrong.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
See my post above.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Translation..
Translation: “I want to end my career where I am a God, and I am affraid of the fighters in the UFC” Fedor
What a f&^king joke!
Of course he’ll stay “undefeated” if he stays/retires from Strikeforce ! I never thought I’d say this about Fedor but…WHAT A PUSSY!!
People who fight for a living are never pussies.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Anybody else having issues getting on mania today?
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
I have to disagree. I don’t care if your a pro fighter or not, if you duck a fight your a pussy. Pro fighter or not you still know if your in too deep. If your scared your scared
by LOKIE on Jun 20, 2010 12:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You can disagree but you are wrong. Its ok, your anger blinds you to the truth.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Don't take me so literley...
The “pussy” comment that is. I mean after all… it is bull shit that Fedor won’t fight the best.
Is cool, I am not related to Fedor or anything. No worries.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I think it's clear
He’s obviously dodging the UFC so that he can keep is record somewhat “perfect”.
In other words, he knows the UFC is a bigger challenge and he may lose so he’d rather retire than prove that he is the best…..
I’m sorry, I would take his name down in the rankings just for saying that.
Would any of you want to leave your job to go work for a guy that has been disparaging you for the last 5 years? As a fight fan it sucks that we don’t get to see him fight the UFC guys, but I like that the guy has some integrity. Maybe it wouldn’t matter but it doesn’t help when Dana is always publicly criticizing Fedor. That is what I never understood. What is Dana’s end game? He is smart enough to know that dissing Fedor to the media isn’t going to help the UFC’s chance of getting him to sign and that it only furthers the divide. M-1’s demands are nuts and I don’t blame the UFC for not meeting them, but it’s hard for me to blame Fedor when you look at all the crap UFC brass has talked. It sure seems that Fedor doesn’t care what anyone thinks is going to do his own thing. He has nothing to prove to anyone. Maybe he would lose to the UFC guys (i have seen nothing in his previous 31 victories to indicate that but it is entirely possible) but calling the guy a chicken is ridiculous. You truly must be riding the short bus
Excellent post, cbrody111. Finally, a poster with some proper perspective.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I agree but
you guys understand why most people will not like this statement? It’s one of the biggest wet dreams in mma, who doesn’t want to see him against the UFC champ?
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
I hate it too but athletes do what they want. To call him scared is ridiculous and without any credibility.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Not to sure about that....
No matter what Dana White says in the media, you would think that the number 1 fighter in the world might want to test himself against the best? So let Fedor use White’s comments as an excuse for not wanting to? That’s the easy way out.
Just that he is old now? I don’t see that as quite a resonable argument myself. Granted I don’t fight myself besideds the occasional bar brawl so all my talk is pretty Peter Pan-ish but I believe true warriors are the never say die types, or is that just the Goonies?
Ha! I would rather walk away like Fedor than look like Chuck.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Truth
But Chuck was clearly on his way out. Fedor hasn’t lost in how long? Gotta find just how good you really are no?
Yep
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Good point but we already know how good he is...otherwise why are we all getting upset? Right? :)
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
New game.
Think we can all agree that MMA has evolved a lot since Pride. A new game brings new standards of “good”?
Good point but his record stands the test of time. He faced the best of his era and won. I don't do revisionist history when it comes to a fighter's record. You either win or lose. The End.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Ill take it. Good enough for the women I date. Guess he still has some challenges ahead with Werdum and Overream though. Ill enjoy it while it lasts then settle for my boy Shogun tearing up LWHs.
Like your sig by the way.
Yeah, let's not look past Werdum or Overeem. Personally, I think Overeem will knock Fedor off his perch. I think he is too young, strong and skilled for a 34 yr old Fedor. Shogun is awesome and thanks for the sig compliment.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
It's not revisionist "history"
…when he’s still an active fighter, but avoiding the top competition. That avoidance is precisely how his record has recently “stood the test of time”, as you say.
by The real Philo on Jun 19, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree with you. It is revisionist history. I say potato and you say candy bar.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
That's a rather weak rebuttal
You claim he "faced the best of his era. But (wait for it……) HE’S STILL FIGHTING!! That means this is still his “era”, and he’s obviously not facing the best competition.
You say potato, I say bullshit,
by The real Philo on Jun 19, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
My answer was meant to be funny. Yes, he fought during Pride and faced the best of his era. If you see it another way then you are blind. That was the context of the initial argument. I say reading comprehension and you say Fedor sucks.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
It appears that you are being purposely obtuse
Let’s address the reading comprehension. The heading of this thread, and the thread itself are actually about a man whose career is still active, not some retired ex-champion that people want to speculate about being better than the current crop of fighters.
Also, I never said he sucks. What I did in fact say was that I thought he was durable and skilled. Again, consider your reading comprehension remark.
Yes, he dominated in Pride against the top guys in the organization. Are you saying that space of time constitutes his era? If so, then what relevance are you saying he now has?
I usually enjoy reading your perspective, but in this case I’m finding it difficult to follow your rationale.
by The real Philo on Jun 20, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The splinter of this particular Fedor debate was if he was great. I remarked that his record spoke for itself. You disagreed. I say its revisionist history to poke at his record.
“but avoiding the top competition. That avoidance is precisely how his record has recently "stood the test of time", as you say.”
You are discrediting his record. Period. Revisionist history.
His undefeated record and the fact that he inspires heated debates answers your question of his relevance.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Discrediting his record?
Not at all. His wins are legitimate.
He was a great fighter, for sure.
Is he still great, right now? That’s the question that’s not being answered because he appears to be fighting less than top tier competition.
I think that to say he IS great (as in currently) based on his record alone is being generous. You’ve heard the saying in the fight game that “you’re only as good as your last fight”. While I don’t entirely agree with that sentiment, it does have a certain pertinence here. If he’s not fighting top level fighters, the wins don’t add to, or sustain, his greatness, in my opinion.
by The real Philo on Jun 20, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
we do know he is
the point is that its nice to see somebody that doesn’t just bow down because he is supposed to. I want to see him fight the guys as much as anyone else, but I respect what he has to say. And as much as I want to see those fights I don’t feel that he owes it to any of us. Fedor has been involved in some of the best fights in MMA history, so I hate to see the guy raked through the mud. I hate taking this side because the UFC fights would be unreal. I was commenting more on the first couple of people calling Fedor a chicken as so forth. I shouldn’t feed the trolls but it is so hard not to. If it doesn’t show, I’m upset, crying to my keyboard as I type, but the MMA landscape always changes. Someone made the point that he is under contract so what else is he going to say? Which is true. Who knows what the SF contract says, Dana could bag his, “Crazy Russians” yet.
i've been saying for a while now he'll retire
he’ll beat Werdum & then maybe fight overroid which i think he’ll win also then retire with his perfect record its a bit of a bitch move but oh well eh?
Simply put, the man can’t help if OTHERS consider him the best MMA HW in the world. To the best of my knowledge the man has never claimed to be the best at anything, except maybe SAMBO.
He was in fact PRIDE’s best HW, and SEEMS to be Strikeforce’s best HW, at least until he faces Overeem, assuming he gets past Werdum.
I do blame Fedor for allowing his handler/s too much latitude with his good name and professional reputation, but its been explained to me by my good friend Vasya that there are certain cultural differences and issues to consider that might make no sense stateside, but are valid overseas.
As for Fedor’s current MMA relevence, all I can say is that in 2010 its largely a matter of opinion.
If someone wants to believe that Fedor could hang with Neanderthals like Lesnar and Carwin, thats their choice, nostaligic thought it may be.
I tend to believe the evidence of my eyes.
I’ve seen both Lesnar and Carwin maul Frank Mir 2.0, and I’ve seen Fedor face opposition like Brett Rogers, and my MMA acumen tells me that Lesnar would simply maul Fedor in a cage.
End of story.
Also, as I’ve previously posted on other threads, if Fedor is bloodied by Brett Rogers, he’d probably get his skull caved in by Shane Carwin.
Fedor not only lacks the physical nature to handle men of superior size, strength, wrestling ability, and in Lesnar’s case athleticism, but his skillset matches up poorly with wrestlers the caliber of Lesnar and Carwin.
Lesnar in particular would drag Fedor to the ground, and silverback him into a bloody and hard-to-watch ref stoppage.
If Fedor supporters want to believe otherwise, thats their POV, and they are entitled to it.
Me, I’ll stand by what I’m seeing ACTUALLY HAPPEN in UFC and SF cages CURRENTLY, and not what Fedor accomplished in a PRIDE ring 5+ years ago against 185ers, 205ers, and HWs who haven’t exactly run amok in the UFC HW class like Mirko CroCop and BigNog.
As for Fedor’s comments about not liking the UFC, the behavior of some of their fighters, blahblahblah, thats fine and well.
Fedor is entitled to his opinion, which due to his handlers is probably semi-informed at best.
Also, its not like Dana White is going to say anything positive about Fedor while he’s fighting for M-1 Global/Strikeforce, so its a fair deal all around.
Finally, and just to be glass clear, the Fedor/UFC issue is partially about money, and partially about control.
Neither of which Dana White is willing to share with men he considers rank amateurs when it comes to promoting MMA.
Rant over..
"The Red Eye Jedi Holds a 7th Degree Black Belt In BongHitsu"
Good rant. Now this is a constructive argument against Fedor that is worth reading.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Jay is gonna shit a brick
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 19, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL. Yeah.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
And to be clear im a fan of the fighter.. just not the man or his unwavering fans
He has spent his whole career fighting bigger guys, yes.. Undefeated? Pretty much.
But like any fighter that dominated 5 years ago, thing’s change.
Don’t tell that to his fans though, to them Fedor does no wrong.
"The Red Eye Jedi Holds a 7th Degree Black Belt In BongHitsu"
by Red Eye Jedi on Jun 19, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. Although his blind haters are just as irrational as his blind fans.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
exactly, but that will never change his place in history
But like any fighter that dominated 5 years ago, thing’s change.
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 19, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Most people that are take things to the extreme, either loving or hating are irational.
And your right southcalistunna, it will neve change his place in history..
Just like GSP wont change matt hughes place in history.
Im sure fedor will be known as the best HW of the 2000’s… But i dont buy into the greatest of all time.
"The Red Eye Jedi Holds a 7th Degree Black Belt In BongHitsu"
by Red Eye Jedi on Jun 19, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
right now Fedor is the greatest HW of all time
could that change just as GSP is changing Matt hughes’ place? sure! but itll be awhile, imo.
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 19, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I do if he goes undefeated against Overeem and retires.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
IMO The overeem fight is a big if.... And then there still is all the guys in the UFC he will never face. To me there are too many questions to consider him the greatest.. But again that's just my opinion.
IIll admit if he gets through the reem, i will be impressed!
I really dont see it happening though, overeem is bigger, stronger and his skills match up pretty well with anybody!
Either way i deff wanna see that fight happen!!
"The Red Eye Jedi Holds a 7th Degree Black Belt In BongHitsu"
by Red Eye Jedi on Jun 19, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's hilarious that people seem to have forgotten
that Overeem has been ko’d/tko’d 6 times in his career including submitting to strikes against Arona.
And your point is?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
No, you just implied something without defining or posting a bottom line prediction. No worries as we completed the thought process to its natural conclusion below.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Implied? No, I pointed out a fact that people seem to conveniantly
gloss over when talking about Overeem, who I am a fan of.
Yea we all know.. But the real question is
Do you really think he is the same fighter?
"The Red Eye Jedi Holds a 7th Degree Black Belt In BongHitsu"
by Red Eye Jedi on Jun 19, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Shogun was the best 5 years ago
& now he’s doing pretty damn good in the ufc Fedor has every chance of doing the same in the ufc i guess we’ll never know
shogun is 27 years old and not small for his division
Fedor is 34 and would be a good 30 lbs lighter than lesnar, carwin or mir.
"The Red Eye Jedi Holds a 7th Degree Black Belt In BongHitsu"
by Red Eye Jedi on Jun 19, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And thats the thing we will never know.
Which sucks for everyone
"The Red Eye Jedi Holds a 7th Degree Black Belt In BongHitsu"
by Red Eye Jedi on Jun 19, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
He clearly looks better as an all around fighter but
do we all the sudden think he possesses a granite chin?
Very clever but inaccurate.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You’re probably right. Fedor would walk into the ring 50 to 60 pounds lighter then Lesnar. If Lesnar got him on the ground and hit him those huge sledgehammers its hard to see Fedor or anyone not going to sleep, but if there is one thing that separates Fedor is that he almost always looks like he is going to get his ass beat and then finds a way. Even when he’s getting dropped on his head he finds a way. When it comes to fighting I don’t think that is something that should be overlooked. Lesnar is beast but he also has a lot less experience then Fedor. If there is anything I have learned from watching MMA its that it isn’t always the biggest or strongest guy that wins the fight.
For the record I don’t blame Dana at all for not wanting to co-promote. It would stupid for the UFC to do so. I just wonder what s trying to accomplish by bashing Fedor? It seems that treating the guy with respect would be a better way to get him to sign. Good rant Red Eye
WOW
Wow! Why am I not surprised about this! Now my opinion about him never going to the UFC is a little more justified. I will never put him at the top of P4P again!
lol
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 19, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
opie and anhtony were right when they said “the more i come to think of it, the more i am not going to be suprised if fedor and his people were scared of fucking lesnar in that cage”. if fedor is really scared of lesnar, carwin and the other ufc fighters, to be honest with you i dont blame him. so would most other human beings
Maybe on the inside they do
But most fedor fans will never show him anything but praise. No criticism even when it’s justified.
For that would be blasphemy.
To be a true fedor fan….Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and … know nothing but the word of Fedor. ;)
"The Red Eye Jedi Holds a 7th Degree Black Belt In BongHitsu"
by Red Eye Jedi on Jun 19, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Hi guys
I am a loving fun of marial arts mma and of course Fedor.
We love Fedor! Even if he stops right now. I think that Fabricio Werdum has a point at his interview. All the fighters win some muches and lose some others that no one could believe they’d lose, or the lose from a fighter that he lost to another that they had beaten. You never know…and that’s the magic of fedor…he should lose some or many of his fights…think about it, that is what makes him so exceptional…how the hell found the courage the will the unbending intent to overcam all the obstacles(soory 4 my english) to get through these situations. Another thing, Fedor probably is working harder than the most other fighters or was until now. If you tink of the human being Fedor…well he’s got the right to live he’s life beyond what MMA funs or Diana Cracker(white anglosaxon ) want for themeselves to prove. He’s done it all. One idea about fear: you probably know his admiration for Mark Colleman’s past.Remember their 2nd fight and after the fight? That’s a good reason to be afraid…to end up like Mark. It would take him probably much more effort to compete with UFC’s new breed. If I would be him, I would be happy to have my last fight with overrem and then enjoy my 2nd wife and my kids and try maybe politix(sic) or be a couch or whatever I would love to do. Don’t get me wrong but I hate the guts of Americanism that trouly is Egoism like christianism Russism and who is the best?ism.Fak dude? I am the best! my best self ever so do you! That’s the magic of Fedor that’s what makes us love him, he beats his self every single time, that’s what very few understand because he is so truly humple and to be humple is the most dificult thing on earth…try it! Love to all, good luck to Carwin this guy has it…
by Michail Angel on Jun 19, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Who the hell wouldn't want to finish any sports career with no losses?
Fedor Emelianenko had some strong criticisms for the UFC during a Friday teleconference call touting his June 26 bout against Fabricio Werdum at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif.
The 34-year-old Emelianenko was asked which upcoming heavyweight bout between UFC 116’s Brock Lesnar-Shane Carwin and his own fight against Werdum had more relevance. The stoic fighter predictably gave credence to his own affair. However, Emelianenko dropped an eye-opening remark while doing it.
"I think both fights are very important because you’ve got basically four world-class heavyweights in the top 10 of their sport, but I’m not a UFC fan," said Emelianenko, who has two fights left with Strikeforce under a co-promotional agreement with M-1 Global. "So, I would invite all the fans to watch our fight that I believe is more important because we’re not in the UFC."
When asked later why he didn’t approve of the world’s No. 1 promotion, the most sought-after fighter in the sport said it was a combination of how the UFC presented its events and how its fighters carried themselves.
“What I meant to say was I’m not a fan of watching their fights," said Emelianenko through interpreter Steven Bash. "Compared to a lot of the commercials and the promotion and anticipation of their fights and compared to a lot of the shows that I’ve seen, there seems to be a negativity involved in a lot of their shows, so I’m just not a fan of watching their programs.
"I think the combination (of presentation and fighter attitude) — in some ways how the fights are presented and the manner they’re presented and also in some ways the actions and behavior of a lot of the fighters from the UFC — it takes away from the sport."
Emelianenko was offered a multi-fight, seven-figure contract with the UFC last summer, but declined the offer. Emelianenko went on to sign with Strikeforce — which is willing to co-promote with his M-1 Global management on shows he appears in — a couple of weeks later.
He makes some good points and anyone who considers him a chicken, a fight dodger or anything less than a stand up human being is just ignorant.
To call any of these crazy mixed martial arts fighters pussies or chickens is
retarded.
Are trapezists afraid of heights? Sure they are, but they overcome. One word for that: courage.
I decided to spare you the trapezists pic.
The only real possession you'll ever have is your character. — Tom Wolfe
F*ck Fedor
There is not one fighter more frustrating to the than Fedor. What a waste of talent. I’ve been to 6 live UFC events and order every PPV. The UFC is extremelly well run. Personally, I think Carwin, Lesnar, Velasquez and JDS would all fuck up Fedor.
You and guys like Damian Hernandez and the rest of the MMA fans who spew bile like this
are a friggin joke and an embarrasment to the sport.
You have to understand some fans are sick of hearing he's the best and yet he's not facing the best
Same goes for Mayweather in boxing fans are not going to be happy fighting the highest ranked opponents possible. M1 is liek a typical 90’s boxing management but fans here in north america already seen all the BS in that and thats why they blame M1 over the UFC were they would rather spend there money than on a lopsided or at least best possible match
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Another dumb post by numbnuts.
Why would any fighter want to leave the UFC? Is Fedor the UFC champ? He’s the Wamma champ, that’s a made up belt and they have to put Fedor as the #1 guy until a clear cut winner comes from the UFC. Fedor won’t be the #1 HW after that happens and this has been stated on MMA shows.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
If all fighters aspire to fight the best and Fedor is considered the best...
then shouldn’t they seek him out?
Not while leaving the top company!
They’d rather have the UFC belt which Fedor has never claimed. Fedor doesn’t hold any important titles. His #1 on most sites are opinion based, not official. even if they came out of the UFC and beat him, then what? Congrats, you have a pointless Wamma belt. Let’s hold it for a while when there’s no real contendars to defend against. Fedor’s #1 ranking will be the only top ranked fighter with an asterisk by it. Just because he was once the best in Pride doesn’t mean he’s still the best. Fact is there is no clear cut #1 HW until all the top guys fight each other.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
Fedor is the greatest HW of all time
Right now though his status as the best is doubted for good reason, a true champion seeks out the best not the other way around.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Why would he be considered the “greatest”? Hes still in good time to prove that, by fighting the top dogs! As good a HW as Werdum is, he is not top of the division.
Becasue of history he was the greatest for a period with little doubt
As far as now he’s still good the question is how good? Regardless though the sport is young and Fedor back in the Pride days was king of the HW division and no other HW has yet to accomplish what he ahs. The record is impressive yeah and I know there are a bunch of below top 20 kind of fighters that prove nothing but remeber the HW division is never the strongest division with talent. A 205 NOG would get destroyed by the old Pride LHW’s.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
The best, or those who aspire to be the best need to seek out the one
who is considered the best, not the other way around. That’s how it works in sports.
I agree 100%...............
And the best reside in the UFC, Fredo should be seeking them out, not the other way around.
Zuffa made a play for Fraudor and he opted to go elsewhere and fight easier competition. Can’t blame anyone but aFraido and M1.

This is rediculous! Fedor has fought the best and even good upcomers who have little reward and high risk(rogers). He has stated many times he doesn’t consider himself the best, and that he isn’t in love with fighting, he has fought for his country pride and I’m sure always has a lot riding on his fights, he trust m1 and I can see both sides the ufc an m1 prediciment, it sucks that we won’t see him in the ufc, but thus is life you don’t always get what you want, I think fedor is entitled to do whatever he wants and will always be considered one of if not they best fighters ever.
by AfflictedLotus on Jun 19, 2010 8:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LMAO
Yeah, HAS fought the best… doesn’t still! Besides Overeem, the only worthy fights for him are in the UFC otherwise this pic is true. I’m a Fedor fan and saying this. I hate retarded Fedor fans that make excuses for him not coming to the top company when you all want him in the UFC as well! Differene is that I can admit it.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
Hmm...
It might have something to do with the fact that he hates the way UFC fighters act (talk a lot of shit, fight dirty, whine and complain) Or it might have something to do with the fact that Dana White doesn’t want him participating in any other sport while he is in the UFC (He has fought in Combat Sambo, which is a Russian national sport, his entire life) Or it might have something to do with the fact that Dana White does nothing but insult him on a regular basis. It could be one of these… or all of the above? But, you are right, he is probably just a pussy. I mean… he didn’t say that he would love to fight Brock Lesnar or anything like that…
by Jeff Keilman on Jun 27, 2010 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions
No doubt Fedor can be beaten for UFC heavyweight fighters. Waste of talent? I don’t know. He’s give me the most entertaining bouts I’ve ever seen. Fedor vs Cro Cop, vs Big Nog twice, etc.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on Jun 19, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
What about the fans!?
We’re the reason he’s hyped up and watched so much.. Doesn’t he want to retire undisputed, and contraversy free
by Jesse13 on Jun 19, 2010 3:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Translation:
No way do I want to fight those monsters in the UFC!
by Sammy Noodleman on Jun 19, 2010 4:15 PM EDT reply actions
Can’t believe you think he’s afraid of those “monsters”. Fedor definely doesn’t need to prove himself out. Sorry UFC but it won’t get the best of all times inside its fences.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on Jun 19, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor is a stud and I agree with him.
"Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one." - Clint Eastwood.
Fedor isn't scared of anyone...
The UFC is kind of cut throat, Fedor cares more about tradition and his culture, UFC shits on stuff like that, and uses fighters how ever they please without much regard to the fighters best interest. Fedor would smash Brock, and anyone else in the UFC IMO.
"Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one." - Clint Eastwood.
He didn't even smash Rogers!
So Brock would more than likely smash him. You’ve never seen Fedor face a guy like Brock, who do you have, Coleman and Randleman? GTFO. He had his shot at Brock and turned it down because he thinks his 1 trick pony company could co-promote with the top league. Would the NFL or NBA co-promote?! Fedor might not be scared of the fighters but I think he’s scare of losing and showing all the nug huggers that he really is no longer the best HW. Avoiding the best doesn’t make you the best. Alot of people who Fedor has had trouble with have gotten destroyed. Let’s be realistic here!
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
Anderson Silva haters will be back on his nuts after he gets another amazing KO just like when he embarrassed Forrest in a way that nobody else has or could ever do. Very Matrix like. GSP on the other hand can't even finish people in his own weight division. The only time Andy goes the distance is against a decent fighter who he either isn't motivated to fight or train for and just toys around with them. Get a top fighter in there and watch him get destroyed within 2 rounds in a way that person's never been handled before. He's board at MW, get him to LHW so he can take that belt too and let's watch GSP be brave enough to take a fight at MW period. Facts are pretty amazing!
What about
Mirko or Nogueira? Another thing I f’n hate is the fact that everyone goes around calling Brock Lesnar God… HE HASN’T EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO PROVE HIMSELF! OOOO! Five fights! One of which was a LOSS. On top of that, who has he REALLY beaten? Hmm, two old ass men who are FAR from their prime… One really shitty Asian fighter, and then one SEVERELY overrated fighter (whom he lost to the first time) Don’t even try to tell me Frank Mir is a good fighter either. Sorry, but he just looked like an idiot in his past FEW fights. The only thing Mir had on his side was speed, and once the heavy weight devision figured out how to counter that… well, you have seen the results. It is just like Lyoto Machida. Why was he really winning? Probably because no MMA fighter was used to fighting a traditional Karate fighter, and having to deal with his awkward stances and striking methods. Shogun figured it out… and you see the results.
by Jeff Keilman on Jun 27, 2010 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions
“To be a true fedor fan….Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and … know nothing but the word of Fedor. ;)”
Why can’t I just be a fan and respect the way he fights and conducts himself? That means I’m blind, deluded and my sense of reason has been destroyed? The world isn’t so black and white. I have never talked to a Fedor fan that doesn’t want to see him in the UFC, but that doesn’t mean they hate him for not signing. I could give a shit about the word of Fedor, I just think he is a bad ass
As a huge fan, I'm disappointed
But considering that his job is to get punched in the face by giant men, I don’t blame him for retiring.
He gave us great fights, never talked shit, and while I would like him to go to the UFC, his schizophrenic relationship with Dana makes it logical that he won’t.
I believe he is the greatest ever and don’t think he ducks anyone. If you disagree, fine. But there are people more deserving of vitriol.
He’s the man I wish to live up to if I ever fight professionally. He deserves respect for what he’s accomplished.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
by Johnny WF on Jun 19, 2010 4:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Greatest fighter in Human history.
If Fedor retires today that’s his choice. In his last two fights you could see a, albeit small ,dissimprovement, and thats cuz he’s getting older. He’s alot smaller then brock and to beat him he’d have to be in his prime but he’s simply not anymore. Why would you sacrifice your(pretty much)unbeaten record against someone who’s in their prime and you’re not?The man worked his ass off to get the record and name he has and giving some cunt who only showed up in this sport when the money got sexy a win against him when he’s at the end of his career is grossly unfair.(Altho I’d never bet against Fedor in that fight). Fact is Fedor has earned the right to retire whenever he wants now and when he does he’ll be remebered as the greatest fighter in the history of our species.Grove street for life muthafuckas!
He'll be known as the greatest ever by many no doubt
But really his claim to great fights leave him only with two fighters worthy of even being mentioned as that status and wins and losses don’t tell half the story as the greatest fighter ever in any weight division in my opinion is Wandy. He seeks out the best and throws everything on the line being called the greatest fighter in human history and the best fighter he has beat is NOG? Well everybody has an opinion but quaility of opponents is not in Fedors resume.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I hear ya
He did beat a few bums along the way but he also beat alot of Game dudes, plus you have to look at the scenario’s he’s fought back from.Imagine your lying on the head on the ground and then Rodgers’ fist smashing into your chin mashing it into the floor. he carried on as if nothing happend! Same when fujita almost knocked him into tommorrow, and who has ever been spiked on their neck from about 5feet in the air and just turned over and kimura’d the guy?
Agreed. The Randleman fight is probably one of the most incredible moments in sports.
by Sammy Noodleman on Jun 19, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if that Jacket worse than his jumpers or not
NICE
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on Jun 19, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
OMG i found a impressionist tht looks like fedor!!
lol or am i the only one thinkin this?
Fedor...
You cant look down on the ufc for being negative, when the very company you work for employs the nasty Diaz Brothers, and that punk Gilbert Melendez.
Too many MMA fans are narrow minded
“Fighting for my country and my heritage is what motivates me. Nothing else … I’m not a UFC fan, so I believe our fight is more important (than Lesnar vs. Carwin). I’m not a fan of watching UFC fights. There is always a lot of negativity coming out of their fights. I don’t want to look too far ahead, I’m just focusing on Werdum. We have two fights left with Stirkeforce, and assuming everything goes well, I don’t see any reason why we wouldn’t continue the relationship. But I am considering retirement more and more often now. I’d like to finish out my contract without any losses and then just see what God has planned for me.”
Now read Loretta Hunt’s article where the whole story is laid out and not just up inflammatory sounding statements into one big jammed together quote in less than great context.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Fedor-Im-Not-A-Fan-of-the-UFC-25182
Fedor: ‘I’m Not A Fan of the UFC’
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Saturday, June 19, 2010
by Loretta Hunt (lhunt@sherdog.com)
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Fedor Emelianenko file photo: Dave Mandel/Sherdog.com
Fedor Emelianenko had some strong criticisms for the UFC during a Friday teleconference call touting his June 26 bout against Fabricio Werdum at the HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif.
The 34-year-old Emelianenko was asked which upcoming heavyweight bout between UFC 116’s Brock Lesnar-Shane Carwin and his own fight against Werdum had more relevance. The stoic fighter predictably gave credence to his own affair. However, Emelianenko dropped an eye-opening remark while doing it.
"I think both fights are very important because you’ve got basically four world-class heavyweights in the top 10 of their sport, but I’m not a UFC fan," said Emelianenko, who has two fights left with Strikeforce under a co-promotional agreement with M-1 Global. "So, I would invite all the fans to watch our fight that I believe is more important because we’re not in the UFC."
When asked later why he didn’t approve of the world’s No. 1 promotion, the most sought-after fighter in the sport said it was a combination of how the UFC presented its events and how its fighters carried themselves.
“What I meant to say was I’m not a fan of watching their fights," said Emelianenko through interpreter Steven Bash. "Compared to a lot of the commercials and the promotion and anticipation of their fights and compared to a lot of the shows that I’ve seen, there seems to be a negativity involved in a lot of their shows, so I’m just not a fan of watching their programs.
"I think the combination (of presentation and fighter attitude) — in some ways how the fights are presented and the manner they’re presented and also in some ways the actions and behavior of a lot of the fighters from the UFC — it takes away from the sport."
Emelianenko was offered a multi-fight, seven-figure contract with the UFC last summer, but declined the offer. Emelianenko went on to sign with Strikeforce — which is willing to co-promote with his M-1 Global management on shows he appears in — a couple of weeks later.
I’m not saying I agree with one side or the other on all issues but I do know that things need to be put in their proper context. We see this all too much on the cool websites we frequent.
Brett Rogers, Andrei Arlovski, Tim Sylvia , Hong Man Choi, Matt Lindland, Mark Hunt Mark Coleman, Wagner da Conceicao Martins, Mirko Filipovic, Tsuyoshi Kosaka, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Naoya Ogawa, Kevin Randleman, Yuji Nagata, Gary Goodridge, Kazuyuki Fujita, Egidijus Valavicius, Heath Herring, Semmy Schilt, Chris Haseman Lee Hasdell, Ryushi Yanagisawa, Renato Sobral, Kerry Schall, Mihail Apostolov, Tsuyoshi Kosaka, Ricardo Arona, Hiroya Takada, Levon Lagvilava, Martin Lazarov
THIS IS WHY HE IS NOT THE BEST OF ALL TIME!! his record is smeared with B level fighters and the odd C level!! Many of which he struggled to beat. There are like 3 names on that resume that hold any weight as legitimate fights for a pfp argument.
I honestly wish people would stop rubbing this guys nuts, he hasnt fought anyone of any relevance to the hw division in years and the sport itself has evolved so much since the days of pride so stop hanging on to that aswell!! He may well be the best (which i doubt), but until he fights the guys that have forced the old and inferior champs down the pecking order then he aint no pfp greatness pure and simple!!!
As for the chuck comment…atleast he seeked out the best in the world and never ducked a single fight, hell he even went to pride in an attempt to fight the fight everyone wanted to see wandi v chuck!! Sure as hell dont see the GREAT fedor doing that hes happier fighting the list above!!!
may i add
i may add that many 205ers and even 185ers have defeated many of the guys on this list..how on earth this list of wins can put him on the pfp list today i will never know!
Somebody please tell me who the best heavyweight of all time is if you don't believe it's Fedor
and somebody please tell me who the best MMA fighter of all time is if not Fedor.
I sincerely want to hear opinions.
Fedor is the fighter who’s name would come up most often if you polled writers, fighters and fans.
living in the past!
Yes Fedor is the ‘best of all time’!!! What you are failing to acknowledge is that the sport is still young its not like boxing where u can compare ali to tyson!! The fight game in mma has evolved so much over the last 3/5 years!! The argument is not what fedor has done in the past its what the challenges are today!! And whether you want to admit it or not the challenges of today are way tougher than they were when fedor was fighting the top contenders back then. He is simply not fighting the best guys in the world today and is actually fighting guys that are struggling to be in the top ten!!
You also fail to recognise that many of fedors wins come against smaller guys like sobral, lindland, randleman but to name a few! And again they are nowhere near the best in their respective divisions!! Once he defeats the guys that are the true test then he can come into the pfp talk!!!
Once again stop living in the past when mma was a puppy!!
Also
I also keep forgetting this; fedor has bloody lost!! IT may not have been a tko or sub but he wont be the first or last guy to lose via a cut!! Just the same as bones jones has a loss on his record
THANK YOU MO!!!!!
Thank you Mo, I have been saying that forever!!! He hasn’t really fought anyone. He fought Cro Cop and Nog. Those three were the top three in the HW divison in Pride. That’s it!!!! Everyone other than those guys were nobodys. Everyone wants to bash on SF for having UFC washouts and none top fighters but they say SF has the greatest HW in the world! Doesn’t make any kind of sense to me at all. He is fighting bums then right??? For people to say that Fedor doesn’t need to fight in the UFC in asinine. To be the best, you have to beat the best right? That’s what I have always heard. Why should Brock or any other top 5 HW in the best organization in MMA with the best fighters in MMA have to go and fight in a lower organization to prove they are better than Fedor? Fedor should be coming to the UFC to prove he is the best not the other way around! B Mouzone, the p4p best fighter is Anderson Silva hands down!!!!
agree
I agree with you tapornsa, i dont just think andersons the best pfp I truly believe he would move up to hw and defeat Fedor despite the weight advantage! I know anderson is a big guy and could prob put on some weight though!
And Im pretty sure he would do it with ease as fedor is way too slow for anderson, and nowhere near technical enough!
I don't think he'll fight Ovaries
I think they’ll try to renegotiate their contract again and place outrageous demands on SF and Overeem so the fight doesn’t stand a chance of happening.
PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY!!!
He hasnt proven anything yet!!!!!! he’s scared of the ufc obviously
Whatever
You no what if he beats Werdum, he needs to fight Alistair Overeem, if he beat Overeem he deserves to retire.
by John Rosencrans on Jun 20, 2010 6:36 AM EDT reply actions
He refused to fight Alistair Overeem so why are people surprised that he wants no part of the UFC? He’ll retire being considered the best fighter in the history of fighting by morons that know nothing about MMA. The HW division is bad in 2010 and was a total abortion back in the pride days. Any division that had Tim Sylvia as a top 5 fighter is a joke. I like Fedor as a person and as a fighter but his fans annoy the hell out of me.
And this is why I never considered him the best
Not only did his record always seem pussy to me, but he was always avoiding the UFC. Now he’s gonna go out like a little bitch and talk shit about the UFC. He was scared, always scared of the best…You can’t just beat B+ fighters in Pride and a bunch of Low Levels and think of yourself as the best. What a pussy. Never should have been considered top five p4p in my opinion. Just look at who he’s fought. Give me a break.
Arlovski? Sylvia? Rogers? Cheated against Linland, Coleman (give me a break), Cro Cop? Nogueira (Great BJJ...And?), And a bunch of losers...
Win 32–1 (1) United States RogersBrett Rogers TKO (Punches) Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers 02009-11-07 November 7, 2009 2 1:48 United States Hoffman Estates, Illinois Defended The WAMMA World Heavyweight Championship
Win 31–1 (1) Belarus ArlovskiAndrei Arlovski KO (Punch) Affliction: Day of Reckoning 02009-01-24 January 24, 2009 1 3:14 United States Anaheim, California Defended The WAMMA World Heavyweight Championship
Win 30–1 (1) United States SylviaTim Sylvia Submission (Rear Naked Choke) Affliction: Banned 02008-07-19 July 19, 2008 1 0:36 United States Anaheim, California Won the first WAMMA World Heavyweight Championship
Win 29–1 (1) South Korea ChoiHong-Man Choi Submission (Armbar) Yarennoka! 02007-12-31 December 31, 2007 1 1:54 Japan Saitama, Japan
Win 28–1 (1) United States LindlandMatt Lindland Submission (Armbar) BodogFight – Clash of the Nations 02007-04-14 April 14, 2007 1 2:58 Russia St. Petersburg, Russia
Win 27–1 (1) New Zealand HuntMark Hunt Submission (Kimura) Pride Shockwave 2006 02006-12-31 December 31, 2006 1 8:16 Japan Saitama, Japan Defended Pride Heavyweight Championship
Win 26–1 (1) United States Coleman 2Mark Coleman Submission (Armbar) Pride 32: The Real Deal 02006-10-21 October 21, 2006 2 1:16 United States Las Vegas, Nevada
Win 25–1 (1) Brazil Melvin ManhoefZuluzinho Submission (Strikes) Pride Shockwave 2005 02005-12-31 December 31, 2005 1 0:26 Japan Saitama, Japan
Win 24–1 (1) Croatia FilipovićMirko Filipović Decision (Unanimous) Pride Final Conflict 2005 02005-08-28 August 28, 2005 3 5:00 Japan Saitama, Japan Defended Pride Heavyweight Championship
Win 23–1 (1) Japan Kohsaka 2Tsuyoshi Kohsaka TKO (Doctor Stoppage) Pride Bushido 6 02005-04-03 April 3, 2005 1 10:00 Japan Yokohama, Japan
Win 22–1 (1) Brazil Nogueira 3Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira Decision (Unanimous) Pride Shockwave 2004 02004-12-31 December 31, 2004 3 5:00 Japan Saitama, Japan For Unified Pride Heavyweight Championship; Won 2004 Pride Heavyweight Grand Prix Final
zNC 21–1 (1) Brazil Nogueira 2Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira No Contest (Accidental Headbutt) Pride Final Conflict 2004 02004-08-15 August 15, 2004 1 3:52 Japan Saitama, Japan Pride 2004 Heavyweight Grand Prix Final
Win 21–1 Japan OgawaNaoya Ogawa Submission (Armbar) Pride Final Conflict 2004 02004-08-14 August 14, 2004August 15, 2004 1 0:54 Japan Saitinokiama, Japan Pride 2004 Heavyweight Grand Prix Semifinal
Win 20–1 United States RandlemanKevin Randleman Submission (Kimura) Pride Critical Countdown 2004 02004-06-20 June 20, 2004 1 1:33 Japan Saitama, Japan Pride 2004 Heavyweight Grand Prix Quarterfinal
Win 19–1 United States Coleman 1Mark Coleman Submission (Armbar) Pride Total Elimination 2004 02004-04-25 April 25, 2004 1 2:11 Japan Saitama, Japan. Pride 2004 Heavyweight Grand Prix Opening Round
Win 18–1 Japan NagataYuji Nagata TKO (Strikes) Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye 2003 02003-12-31 December 31, 2003 1 1:02 Japan Kobe, Japan
Win 17–1 Trinidad and Tobago GoodridgeGary Goodridge TKO (Soccer Kicks and Punches) Pride Total Elimination 2003 02003-08-10 August 10, 2003 1 1:09 Japan Saitama, Japan
Win 16–1 Japan FujitaKazuyuki Fujita Submission (Rear Naked Choke) Pride 26: Bad to the Bone 02003-06-08 June 8, 2003 1 4:17 Japan Tokyo, Japan
Win 15–1 Lithuania ValaviciusEgidijus Valavicius Submission (Kimura) RINGS Lithuania – Bushido Rings 7: Adrenalinas 02003-04-05 April 5, 2003 2 1:11 Lithuania Vilnius, Lithuania
Win 14–1 Brazil Nogueira 1Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira Decision (Unanimous) Pride 25: Body Blow 02003-03-16 March 16, 2003 3 5:00 Japan Yokohama, Japan Won Pride Heavyweight Championship
Win 13–1 United States HerringHeath Herring TKO (Doctor Stoppage) Pride 23: Championship Chaos 2 02002-11-24 November 24, 2002 1 10:00 Japan Tokyo, Japan
Win 12–1 Netherlands SchiltSemmy Schilt Decision (Unanimous) Pride 21: Demolition 02002-06-23 June 23, 2002 3 5:00 Japan Saitama, Japan Pride Fighting Championships debut
Win 11–1 Australia HasemanChris Haseman TKO (Lost Points) Rings – World Title Series Grand Final 02002-02-15 February 15, 2002 1 2:50 Japan Yokohama, Japan Won Rings Absolute Class Tournament
Win 10-1 United Kingdom HasdellLee Hasdell Submission (Guillotine Choke) Rings – World Title Series 5 02001-12-21 December 21, 2001 1 4:10 Japan Yokohama, Japan Rings Absolute Class Tournament Semifinal
Win 9–1 Japan YanagisawaRyushi Yanagisawa Decision (Unanimous) Rings – World Title Series 4 02001-10-20 October 20, 2001 3 5:00 Japan Tokyo, Japan Rings Absolute Class Tournament Quarterfinal
Win 8–1 United States HoffmanBobby Hoffman TKO (Doctor Stoppage) Rings – 10th Anniversary 02001-08-11 August 11, 2001 1 0:00 Japan Tokyo, Japan Rings Heavyweight Class Tournament Final; Won World Heavyweight Class Championship
Win 7–1 Brazil SobralRenato Sobral Decision (Unanimous) Rings – 10th Anniversary 02001-08-11 August 11, 2001 2 5:00 Japan Tokyo, Japan Rings Heavyweight Class Tournament Semifinal
Win 6–1 United States SchallKerry Schall Submission (Armbar) Rings – World Title Series 1 02001-04-20 April 20, 2001 1 1:47 Japan Tokyo, Japan Rings Heavyweight Class Tournament Quarterfinal
Win 5–1 Bulgaria ApostolovMihail Apostolov Submission (Choke) Rings Russia – Russia vs. Bulgaria 02001-04-06 April 6, 2001 1 1:03 Russia Yekaterinburg, Russia
Loss 4–1 Japan Kohsaka 2Tsuyoshi Kohsaka TKO (Cut) Rings – King of Kings 2000 Block B 02000-12-22 December 22, 2000 1 0:17 Japan Osaka, Japan Inadvertent elbow strike caused cut; King of Kings 2000 Tournament 2nd Round
Win 4–0 Brazil AronaRicardo Arona Decision (Unanimous) Rings – King of Kings 2000 Block B 02000-12-21 December 21, 2000December 22, 2000 3 5:00 Japan Osaka, Japan King of Kings 2000 Tournament 1st Round
Win 3–0 Japan TakadaHiroya Takada KO (Strikes) Rings – Battle Genesis Vol. 6 02000-09-05 September 5, 2000 1 0:12 Japan Tokyo, Japan
Win 2–0 Georgia (country) LagvilavaLevon Lagvilava Submission (Rear Naked Choke) Rings – Russia vs. Georgia 02000-08-16 August 16, 2000 1 7:24 Russia Tula, Russia
Win 1–0 Bulgaria LazarovMartin Lazarov Submission (Guillotine Choke) Rings – Russia vs. Bulgaria 02000-05-21 May 21, 2000 1 2:24 Russia Ekaterinburg, Russia MMA debut
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