Canada detains Mirko 'War Cop' in hopes of extracting dirt on Yugoslavia
by Jesse Holland on Jun 15, 2010 12:19 PM EDT
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"The first day I was kept for four hours and two more the next day. Although they were not satisfied with my answers they let me go to the hotel in the city, to sleep. They asked me to think about the questions raised. I was threatened with deportation, but appealed to the Croatian Embassy. The Consul was urgently flown in from Ottawa, and the UFC hired the best lawyer for immigration issues. They obviously knew what would happen because my lawyer was on the runway at the airport! The inquiry was painful for me, but I must say that the Immigration Bureau officials very correctly performed their job. They used what they have to, but there are obviously very interested in the military and police matters from the former Yugoslavia. Most of them were interested in my military service. I served in 1993-1994 as a conscripts, but I was not involved in combat activities. They asked me if I was involved in the torture of civilians, asking for names of command lines and tactical commanders. They were asking for details of my activities in Lucko ATJ [anti-terrorist unit] which I joined a few years after the war. They gave me a list of names for me to confirm, but I did not do it. I can not confirm one name because it is still a matter of dignity and principles. I said to myself, ‘If it comes to it I am ready to go home‘. They could have done what they wanted with me but [in the end] they let me fight."
UFC heavyweight Mirko Filipovic talks about his run in at the Canadian border on his way to the UFC 115: "Liddell vs. Franklin" event in Vancouver last Saturday night (June 12). "Cro Cop" has political and military ties with his home country of Croatia and Canadian officials were apparently very interested in some of the secrets the former PRIDE star may or may not have had locked away in his vault. Fortunately the Croat was allowed to continue on but not before calling for reinforcements. Can the UFC expect more of the same as it continues its global expansion? Or is it possible this was just an isolated incident?
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he was active while croatia was involved in violent war crimes.
for relevance, imagine the conflict in Sierra Leonne. many people who were responsible for violent war crimes towards women and children were let off and may be the neighbor or a man they tortured. today, people suspected of war crimes can be banned from entering many countries just on suspicion alone.
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meh
As long as they r good citizens now, I don’t care what was done in war, it’s kill or be killed. Anyone with compassion or a heart end up getting shot in the back by the same women and children they are now accused of killing
i would really suggest you do a little research on what took place in Sierra Leonne before restating your opinion. after that if you still hold that opinion, more power to you.
to me, its the same as someone who raped and killed your sister, but in order to keep peace between your family and the rapists family, they let him off. now if you want to kill him, you’ll spend the rest of your life in jail. many people have been wronged and their own countries allow or turn a blind eye to it for the sake of peace. but the rest of the world wont stand for it. so many people merely suspected for being involved (as they wouldn’t have time to fully investigate) will simply refuse entry to their country.
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There is a big difference in what happens in war and war crimes
by eagzy on Jun 15, 2010 12:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you serious Kev.
So the Nuremberg Trials weren’t a good idea. There is such a thing as war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Nuremberg is an example that cannot be disputed. A more, "gray" example would be more appropo.
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-Stephen King
And yet there are soulless pieces of shit out there that I have met that tried to dispute even those
Bullets dodge Fedor.
They are idiots. The End.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
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To that OJ I would say that laws are generally made to fit the black and white because the grey is unpredictable. You can’t account for individual circumstances when creating a general law about the practices of war. It would leave it too open to interpretation and therefore wouldn’t be useful in applying retribution, punishment or deterrence.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Yes, I agree. My point is this : events at Vietnam cannot be compared to the events at WW2.
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-Stephen King
That’s why there is a need for a wide sweeping law. Then during trials the truth comes out (hopefully) because no two situations are alike.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
The problem with that is that even though the laws are set
the people who set them and push them and promise to abide by then, find loopholes in them when they feel they are an inconvenience to them. Hence the US with their “enhanced interrogation” and “not a soldier so we can torture them” bullshit.
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Damn right, Kev!
Happens all the time! War is an ugly business! And often times the soldiers are only allowed one decision for themselves and that’s survive a situation, or not! Then someone is always gonna second guess their actions!
by Danas A Crossdresser on Jun 15, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
there are bad things that happen in war, I get that guys
all I’m saying, if I was in a predicament in a world thousands of miles frm my own, where everyone hates me and what my country stands for, I’d have a shoot first ask questions later attitude. Kill or be killed guys!
I think you kind of missed the point here kev. Most war crimes aren’t a kill or be killed situation? I don’t think that’s what you mean but it kind of makes your comments on the matter sound a bit ignorant
by eagzy on Jun 15, 2010 12:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you try saying that to millions of slavs
People do what they have to do. Mirko was a Croat soldier and as a Croat I can tell you national service is forced. Even if national service wasn’t forced upon Mirko he may have volunteered just like many thousands did during the war. War is ugly and an unfortunate necessity in life because as long as we (people all over the world) have stupid nationalist Hitler types running our countries there will always be wars. Im fortunate my family got the fuck out of Croatia and enabled me a fantastic life in Australia.
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agree and disagree Hitler had to be stopped, but Saddam Hussein did nothing to us!
So going into Iraq after 9/11 makes zero sense to me, let the people that oppose him try to put an end to it!
What did Hitler do to the US specifically?
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
that was a world issue
and it was the extermination of millions, if we hadn’t have stepped in, it ultimately would have gone to a global extermination (in my opinion), but u do make a good point!
I wasn’t trying to make a point, I was just wondering if I had missed something.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
If everyone took care of their own and didn’t oppress and take advantage of their own people it would be a much better place. That isn’t the reality though and it’s too bad. Domestic issues for every country are important.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
you cannot sit by
Im sorry but there’s a strong possibility we would all be typing in German had it not been for a whole bunch of like minded countries combining to stop the Nazi’s. Domestic issues are important but you cannot pick and choose your battles. My issue with the US gov’s policies is they seem to only get involved and play global sheriff when there’s something in it for them….$$$$ or Oil (basically more $$$) Had Kosovo, Rwanda or any other state which pleaded for US assistance had something of value the help would have come.
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and thats why I have no problem getting involved against Germany
I just think there are too many domestic issues or global economic issues to get involved every time a dictator kills some people. Am I a dick for feeling that way? I don’t think so, I think my priorities just differ from others
nothing wrong with that
I totally understand you view point..I wish it was that way too. Getting involved in Germany was a must…..no doubt about it. It would have been a greater crime to not get involved. However going to war with Iraq and Afgan was stupid. The idea of fighting terrorism and foreign ideology with bombs and guns only creates more terrorism. For every single Muslim killed by the hands of western forces creates many more willing to take up the cause. Obama however has shown so far he wants to work more on the domestic front….i.e healthcare for all etc
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and thats a good thing?
I don’t know, how bout mandatory drug testing for welfare recipients instead of healthcare, just to throw one thing out there
The Axis
Japan bombed pearl harbour, in response to an Oil embargo by the US.
While Japan isn’t Germany they were obv Allied. US was happy being neutral and profiteering off the war prior to that.
Shogun lost a close decision! Everyone get crazy!
agree but
9/11 was all the justification the US Gov required to implement a war plan which was drawn up long before 9/11 and thats a fact according to a once public US Gen Tommy Franks, a now very quiet Mr Franks…I wonder why? Anyway I don’t think too highly of the former US Gov’s, so sorry if anything i post offends my US friends.
Hitler, Milosevic (former Serb Leader) and Saddam have plenty in common as do many other past and presents global leaders. The Iraq war had nothing to do with WMD’s or the fact Saddam ordered mass killings of his people….that war my friend was about $$$$$$ and Iraq gov change to ensure more $$$$$ in many years ahead. Need I mention Halliburton & Schlumberger just to name a few big winners who are well represented at the top of those companies from within by Bush administration. Both senior and junior Bush administrations. I then refer to my first post- “War is ugly and an unfortunate necessity in life because as long as we (people all over the world) have stupid nationalist Hitler types running our countries there will always be wars”
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Saddam Hussein and his 2 sons were both maniacal, egotistical, homicidal serial killers that deserved to be killed. the U.S. biggest fault with Saddam is that Reagan didn’t kill the SOB in the 80’s cause the reagan admin. wanted a so called ‘buffer’ to Iran. in my eyes no country should ever align itself with someone who kills upwards of 1.5 million innocent civilians, i don’t care how much sense it makes geographically. all Bush had to do was make it aware to the american people and the world about all of Hussein’s atrocities against is own countrymen, and i don’t see how anyone in their right mind wouldn’t have been for hunting down and killing that piece of shit. Hussein ranks right up there with Hitler and Stalin, NO DOUBT!
IDK man
if he had said it was because of him killing millions like Hitler, I’d maybe agree, but they made it seem like he was the cause of 9/11 and it was part of his “war on terror.” I’m not for removing dictators except in very rare situations. If we made it our business to put governments we approve of in place, we might as well just take over the world. Was Saddam a bad guy, of course, did we have a good reason to go in there? yeah, weapons of mass destruction right!?
i feel there is a severe misunderstanding here. i’m not talking about survival. i’m talking about the sierra leonne situation because i thought it was commonly known. neighbors enslaved neighbors, murdered anyone who opposed them. went from villiage to villiage cutting off the breasts of nursing mothers, raping little girls, burning entire families alive.
please understand the distinction between war and these war crimes.
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thats wrong bro
I was talking in general, no specific war/conflict. look at Vietnam, the woman and children walking into places with U.S. soldiers with grenades. Look at suicide bombers in Iraq/Afghanastan. I’m not saying raping or murdering nnocent people is ever right, I’m saying that war is a scary thing to be involved in
ok, i think it got out of hand when i mentioned sierra leonne and there was a different level of understanding.
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Take it easy, man. No need to get so worked up. If you really read into his words he was trying to distinguish between war in general and war crimes. He was not advocating murder of innocent people. Big difference.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
If you just attack without contributing...then yeah, its getting worked up. Its obvious you don't like his views but try to debate him instead of just insulting him. I have seen your other posts, you are smart.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I know what's going on here..........
OJR and Kevin sitting in a tree, K,I,S,S,I,N,G…………Lol sorry dude I couldn’t resist. I wasn’t attacking, I was just implying that I think kevin has a shitty input on this convo and I haven’t been contributing cause I have actually been doing work…….lol
O_o
Ok, fair enough. You are entitled to your opinion. No worries.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I'm never wrong?
Im wrong sometimes and admit it, being wrong usually means I learned something new, hence I have no issues with being wrong. OJR is one of the few that actually sees my comments for what they are. killing innocent people that are defenseless is obviously wrong (Hitler) but innocent people dying in a war zone is going to happen, they are two different things!
dude, I get ya, but I am sure as shit not putting my two cents in here with the liberals.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
I did. I am not liberal in my views.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Not worth the effort or the “friends” I will lose and I don’t have enopugh time to give the full dissertation.
I respect alot of people on both sides of this conversation. Honestly, I would rather switch to religion than keep going on this topic. ;)
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Ha! Fair enough, man.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
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ugh, religion huh?!
I’ll admit Im not up to snuff on my foreign conflict facts, nor do I really care. Im more concerned with this oil leak than anything war related at this point!
He did say to just bomb Irag and Afganistan. The demolishion of civilian property, houses, buildings and infrastructure is a war crime as well as strategically killing civilians in order to defeat an army.
I don’t think Kevin was considering those personally and he usually isn’t this far off, so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt here.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Exactly. Debate and educate.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I suggest you look at a mass-burial and try and state the same opinion. A lot of the time with these war crimes it’s not killed or be killed (that’s the point of them being war crimes in the first place).
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Seriously Kev...........
You make some pretty retarded statements on here but this one takes the cake…..
O_o
raping and killing people you are paid to protect is one thing
I’m not advocating that, but if ur in doubt and it looks suspicious, and when push comes to shove it’s me or them…guess what, it’s gonna be them!
Check this:
War crimes are “violations of the laws or customs of war”; including “murder, the ill-treatment or deportation of civilian residents of an occupied territory to slave labor camps”, “the murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war”, the killing of hostages, "the wanton destruction of cities, towns and villages, and any devastation not justified by military, or civilian necessity.
You can’t turn a blind eye to War crimes………
O_o
before i respond, specify what levels of “torture” are ok.
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i wish i lived in the same world as Kev where war crimes were simply shooting someone that you thought might be a threat to you, and thats as bad as it gets.
i wish the worst torture in the world was non-lethal water boarding (as most americans hear about happening in gitmo and think its the worst thing that takes place).
but reality is sadly different and grotesque.
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word
i wish the worst torture in the world was non-lethal water boarding (as most americans hear about happening in gitmo and think its the worst thing that takes place).
but reality is sadly different and grotesque.
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 15, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
ever seen man on fire?
where he tapes the hands, cuts off fingers, then cauterizes with cigarette lighter…If it saves lives, it should be viewed “bad” NOT to.
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by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 15, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I would not agree to the level of torture seen in Rambo part 2
However waterboarding Osama Bin Laden; not a problem.
why would you torture civilians?
you guys love to twist my words to make me look bad, i’m just being realistic!
unfortunately you’re not being realistic. i believe you really believe what you’re saying. but if i were you, i’d bury my head in studies on sierra leonne and places like that. you will come away with a different world view.
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by MicahW on Jun 15, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
then all i can say is keep your mouth shut about things you are willfully ignorant of
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ignorant is misused by society. i mean ignorant in it’s real definition meaning simply that you don’t have knowledge on a particular subject. and since you willingly will not educate yourself on this matter, you are willfully ignorant. i’m not calling you stupid, please dont take it that way.
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it's not that I'm ignorant
it’s that I don’t care. Ur example is in the past (as was my mentioning vietnam), but my original comments were based on wars and conflicts now. Me reading about searra leone at this point in my life accomplishes nothing imo, that all
Check out Darfur if you want something current.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
not to sound stupid, is that africa
those people with their diamonds are crazy, I’ll give you that. but it’s all about the food chain, those guys dictating and killing are the top of it!
That's a problem for the UN to solve as a group. Along with all of the other atrocities.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
If you expect the UN to solve it.
Then be ready to be disappointed. The UN couldn’t solve what color to paint their bathrooms let alone Darfur.
I know. And yet the US is bashed even though it is on the front line in specific situations like that.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
agreed dandeman,
see who finances the uN and then realize why atrocities happen where they happen. The UN will only get involved if it has geo-political ramifications. (ie oil)
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
why smitty
I got misunderstood. i think what hitler did was awful and wrong, but that wasn’t war, that was murder. if ur in war and shooting (returning fire) at the enemy and a few people die, thats life!
O well in that case......
fuck you. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha……..ha.
O_o
Now this made me laugh...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
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I extended my "bff" offer and she rejected......
Now I have cut ties forever!!! 3:)
^^That’s my devil face^^ lol
O_o
OH GOD it does!
Dragon just got tea-bagged!
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
It doesn't look evil at all.
You look like you have a set of nuts on your forehead and are extremely happy about it.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Teabag face - I will reserve that face for Lester the Pimp.
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hopefully you’ll like my view on mma as well, lol
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ur opinion is well taken
I just don’t care about such things. I’ve said before, I’m all for bombing iraq and afghanastan, taking their oil and sparing our soldiers the time and lives war takes
Holy shit, thank god you don’t run that country of yours. You know that not everyone who lives in those places is a terrorist right? You know your own soilders took an oath to protect the innocent right?
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Soldiers take an oath to blindly follow orders. Sad but true.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
you trust the man next to you, the man behind you, and the man over you. if you second guess anyone it could mean your own life. that is sad but true as well.
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Yes. You are molded as a unit with no individualism. Not making excuses, just confirming facts.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
OJR is right
and yes, but the thing is, the people there hate us and the vast majority don’t want our help
Yes. Very sad but true.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
That’s what the media says. I’m sure you have something to back up this claim that they all hate you.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
I have friends from India and Pakistan who became US citizens and confirm that anti-American sentiment is very real.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I see it on CNN every night. They hate the US.
They don’t hold pro-US rallies that’s for sure.
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Americans don't hold pro-usa rallies.
Its like mmart always complaining because all these other fighters with different nationalities represent those nationalities and don’t say somethign good about the US. Well hell, neither do the American fighters.
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it's an issue no matter what
negro college fund is ok, but if I started a white college fund I’d be racist, no matter what the issue, we’ll have different opinions.
I blame OJR’s goatee
LOL. I will start a goatee college fund.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You have to remember that the most vocal are usually the extreme.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Yes and the rest of the populace have to fall in line or pay the consequences as an "American sympathizer." Sad situation all around.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
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No that's absolutely untrue to say
To say most hate us is totally wrong. You’re believing the hype that Fox shows you. They fill up a square with 1,000 middle eastern people yelling “Kill America” or “Kill Bush” and you believe it represents the other 10 mil people in that country? that’s wrong bro. In fact, you could probably find 10 mil in this country that would yell “kill bush” and you still wouldn’t represent this country as a whole.
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Dude, my Pakistani friend says that alot of those people are forced to be anti American so I agree with you.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
What I find so sad is that only the extremists care enough to protest.
Most human beings I have met (in the roughly 10 different countries I have been to) all are about roughly the same thing…family, hard work, personal relationships and being happy.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Exactly. The extremists and their ilk get alot of governement support and the average person is caught in a sad situation.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You're exactly correct
the problem is that most people, if you let them live, would be happy. We all go through rough times, it happens, its life…but we all learn to cope and find the silver lining. Then you have those who either want it all for themselves or refuse to see someone not get a share…and those are the people who get the ratings.
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
People tend not to rally for what they feel is common sense I think.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
It takes leader(s) to start a rally
And they need to be passionate about what they are leading making them “extremist” were most of the ralliers are followers with many of the same beliefs as the leader. Nobody is going to rally unless someone motivates them into thinking they could do something about the situtation.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Rallies are a good thing as well because they alert people who would not normally think something is a problem to the fact that people oppose it (whether they agree with the ralliers or not). These opens things up for debate.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Right now civilians are being tortured
for being SUSPECTED of ties to terrorism. If you’re only suspected…does that warrant all the torture methods named above?
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
so its ok as long as its just a hunch?
“fuck it, he’s from that area, off with his fingers?”
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I didn't say that
why would we torture someone unless we had a good “hunch?”
I’m pretty black and white guys, there is very little grey area. I know within a few minutes if I like you or not, and I go into EVERY meeting open minded. I’ve met someone I like one time and didn’t the next. War is tough, what Hitler did wasn’t war, it was killing, thats wrong in most instances
Under the PATRIOT ACT, if the US government names yuou a terrorist of the state, they can detain you indefinitely.
Think about that. (even American citizens)
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Terrible, ham handed law as a reaction to terrorism.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
There you cross the line
However; if you get stuck in a quagmire ala Vietnam who is truely a civilian and who is really a VC. Are you VC if your fulltime VC or is everyone VC if they even picked up a rifle. That is a question no one can really answer.
Right again.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Exactly, dandeman.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Are you being serious Kev?
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Before you guys rip Kevin again...please understand that war is never black and white. I also approve torture.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
if you can get the truth out of a 100% proven terrorist
why do we have to be humane?
it’s like locking up a serial killer for life, whats the point other than having my tax dollars pay for them to be alive? Just kill them.
I look up to countries not so afraid of the death penalty
Until you’re the innocent person awaiting your death sentence to be carried out.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Good point. However, serial killers are very rarely misidentified.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I know I hate it to.
Always messing with your plans. Can they just be happy and say they are guilty and be done with it.
I would take a look at your own innocence projects in the US. They have found quite a few innocent people now cleared through DNA who were sentenced to death. I say this as a person in the field of Forensics, so I’m not talking bullshit here.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
you hate THEM???
Not the system that put them there? Not the wrong doings or misinformation that put them there? Instead you hate the victim?
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
there have been people killed using death penalty...
that were later exonerated and their families received payouts. Imagine yourself in that place when you haven’t committed the crime they are convicting you to death for.
I am not necessarily against death penalty but I do see that as a very important argument against it.
Bullets dodge Fedor.
They are not rare.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
misidentifying serial killers is common?
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 15, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you write that into a law. Way too specific. That’s why you get charged with multiple murders not serial killerism or something.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
a person charged (and convicted) of multiple murders, depending on circumstances*, is often related as a "serial killer"
If there is enough evidence to dub someone a “serial killer” there is enough evidence, in my book, to kill them sooner rather than later.
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 15, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
You just said it though.
depending on circumstances
I’m not saying you’re wrong or that I don’t believe the same thing. I’m saying that writing a law that states ‘depending on circumstances’ would lead to more people being let off due to interpretation than you think. Laws have to be general for that reason.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Laws should be changed to lend itself to a collective search for the truth instead of a range of legal loopholes that muddle the situation and handicap accountability as a whole.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
goddamn OJR
preach it brethren!
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 15, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
True OJ, but to erase thousands of years of law building, philosophy and tweaks here and there would be a very difficult task.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Difficult but not impossible. Political interests and an uneven distribution of wealth hinder progress. Trust me, it has nothing to do with philosophy nowadays.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Okay, commie.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
LOL. OJ Simpson, anyone?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
hes paying for it now
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 15, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well in the US and Canada for example you are innocent until proven guilty (not really, but you know what I mean), where as other legal systems maintain you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent, and still there are some who work together in less of an advisarial system. These are all different philosophies and the bases of the systems would be difficult to change after so long. I didn’t mean that one way is better than the other, but that change is difficult and sometimes fairly improbable.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
So how do you propose they collectively search for the truth? (just wondering, not picking)
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
In the US? Scrap the defendant vs. plaintiff format in criminal cases in where potential pieces of evidence are ignored because minor loopholes are taken advantage of.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
So you include all "potential evidence" regardless of the method it was obtained?
Now you just opened up illegal search and seizures, taking away right to privacy, etc. because they are “minor loopholes.”
See how that works?
A killer is caught with blood on him and his clothes. The bloody knife is behind the fridge where he tossed it. The arrest warrant has the wrong address so the killer gets loose on a small detail See how that works?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
great point OJR
I got off a drug charge because the cop came into the house 5 minutes before the warrant was issued. I got off and asked (but didn’t receive) for my drugs back. I defended myself, just imagine what high powered attorneys can find!
I do see how that works, and I agree with it as bad as that sounds. That little loophole protects your liberties. All of that is circumstantial evidence anyways (still powerfull) but not direct evidence.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
That's only one situation where it may be better.
That still doesn’t address the loopholes I just came up with on the spot with your system.
The point I was trying to illustrate is that the current system isn’t perfect, but neither is the one you come up with, which could potentially create more issues.
Then you create a plug for that loophole, and you potentially create another; eventually you may end up in the same spot.
We will agree to disagree, Phevos. I use specific examples. You stick to your general statements and philosophy. No worries, man.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You bring up good points.
I think we are illustrating one key difference between the US and Canada.
US – typically favours rules based approach to specific situations.
Canada – principles based.
No right or wrong, just different and both with their issues.
Phevos - if you are not a murderer, a thief or a drug czar then freedom of privacy is not a big deal. An FBI agent does not care if you cheat on your wife or stream porn all day.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
So then why we are discussing this at all?
Why do you care about the system since we’re all “innocent”?
We’re all assumed to be innocent then we all don’t have to worry about privacy?
An FBI agent does not know if you are innocent or not; does that mean they have the right to search my home, computer and all my belongings? Should I just let them do that? I may have nothing to hide and not a criminal, but I don’t know about you, I wouldn’t want the FBI, police or anybody else just shufling through my stuff.
Phevos - YOU brought up privacy as an issue. Not me.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
In exchange for getting real criminals off the street? No problem. I like booty, MMA and comic books. There. So much for privacy!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
It's exchanging your right to privacy for the POTENTIAL to capture real criminals.
There is no guarantee and most likely would not actually catch significantly more criminals.
Think about borders and customs where we are essentially giving up our privacy for entering a country. They have every right to search all of our stuff in that situation.
Does that guarantee that no terrorists get on a plane? or enter the country? I think we all know the answer to that.
I agree Phevos
I am as vanilla as vanilla comes these days. No fucking way I let ANYONE search me, my house, my belongings, etc unless they have gone through the proper legal channels to secure that right.
First step to totalitarianism is loss of basic human rights.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
That's a loaded statement and a very complicated debate. Lets just say that it would be a case by case basis.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Also, I doubt laws were made with the intention of leaving some loopholes in them. I think they were generally written with the intention of being airtight, but that’s a really difficult thing to achieve.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Agreed. I would use it in air tight examples - like serial killers.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Then you get into areas of creating laws for too specific of circumstances and you have an endless legal system. You may have thought you covered everything, and then something changes slightly in a new case and the old law becomes useless as people were circumvent the legalese.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
I think in this day and age it’s even more impossible. Changing technology and shifting boarders as well as infinite way in which people identify themselves and what they consider a threat makes it imossible to cover all of those circumstances to create truely specific laws with single interpretations.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
im must be an oddball as well because (pertaining to torture) i am for it.
our guys will be tortured when caught, why shouldnt “they”? If we can catch one enemy soldier and use information that was tortured out of him to save ONE american life, then imo, its worth it!!!!
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 15, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, America charged the Japanese with War Crimes for waterboarding American troops to get strategic information during WW2. Those Japanese soilders were sentenced to death for their crimes, but then you guys want to turn around and do the exact same thing. A little hycocritical I believe.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
not hypocritical
theres a great chance the enemy would torture and get information from our guys (thats just a facet of war) why should we not do the same with the hope of saving our own, even its just one!
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 15, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Politicians and heads of state are hypocritical. I am speaking for myself.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
question
Kev,
Let me ask you a quick question that might get at the heart of the debate here:
Would you choose to allow a person to freely enter your country who is known to be guilty of the following war crimes: rape, murder and mutilation of innocent civilians?
If your answer is yes, then I think you will have some opposition here.
If your answer is no then I think your statement “Meh, As long as they r good citizens now, I don’t care what was done in war…” should be reconsidered
by H.I. McDunnough on Jun 15, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
A better question might be : why is the country in where this person commited said crimes allowed to leave without prosecution?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Your origninal statement was not cro cop specific
so neither was my question, do you care to answer it?
by H.I. McDunnough on Jun 15, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
sure
If someone is from a different country, but happened to be in a military that committed crimes, but this person is a pillar of the community, let him in. if they have ties to war crimes or “hate” deny them. They just denied Chris Brown into the UK because he beat a woman, I have no problem with that!
Fair enough
I think, if I understand you corretly, you are accepting that there are such things as war crimes and that those guilty of committing them should be screened at the border. Whether or not Canadian officials had reasonable cause to detain and question Cro Cop is a much smaller issue that I don’t care to quibble about.
by H.I. McDunnough on Jun 15, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
cro cop was there to work and has never been accused of war crimes.
I’ll go one step further (which I always have to since my comments are taken and runned with) If you were in Afghanastan and captured, I 100% guarantee you that you’d be tortured and very likely beheaded, yet we capture someone and they have to be treated better and more humanely than we treat our own homeless people. why? because some politician who never fought for anything in his life said so?
eye for an eye.
in countries where a thief has his hand cut off has how many people getting arrested for stealing?
lots lol
that’s probably why they’ve gone to the extreme of cutting off hands. Countries like that are usually third-world/developing countries where there is a lot of poverty and therefore a lot of stealing
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
I’ve seen no evidence in countries where hands are cut off that there is a decrease in criminal activity. Eye for an eye, then everyone is blind.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
and THAT could make for some freaky ass nights
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
lol damn Kev...
I know you have a “I’ll get mine and you get yours” mentality, but damn lol. Its like saying, as long as the Nazi’s didn’t kill any more jews AFTER the war…I don’t care what they did during it. If you commit a crime and are caught, you have to be accountable. Just because the war is over doesn’t mean what you did during it disappears. They weren’t killing anyone who was a danger to them…they went on the offensive and went after innocent people who wanted no part of a war. Turning a blind eye to pain or injustice is a horrible thing. You get yours and i’ll get mine has a place in this world…but so does compassion and caring for your fellow man.
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
i took it as he meant whatever happened during the War is just that WAR. anything and everything goes.
and shouldn’t be held against them?
(not saying i do or dont agree, just how i took it)
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 15, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yea that was just extermination
I thought you were saying if, during war, you kill women, children, mass bomb etc. etc. etc. that it doesnt matter because thats War
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 15, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
That isn’t war. Those are war crimes. Wars are fought between the militaries of two or more countries, not their civilians. That’s my opinion at least.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Reality is different. Not excusing injustices but a 12 year old in Africa will put a bullet in your skull after being brain washed. And he is a civilian to boot. Alot of gray area.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Not even brain washed, they do it if they want to eat.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Good point!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
jews weren’t “in” the war they were just being slaughtered, totally different
those are war crimes bro. That’s what we’re talking about. War crimes.
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
There were war crimes committed in the former Yugoslavia from the killing of civilians to charges of ethnic cleansing. I know people who were assigned by the World Court of Human Rights (which the US is not a signatory mind you, but that’s a different story) to investigate mass burials in Kosovo. They are colleagues of mine. They went there to uncover burials of hundreds of women, children and men and help identify the remains for family memebers as well as make recomendations to the courts based on forensic evidence on how to proceed with trials for crimes against humanity. These people also went to Darfur, and Timor with the same purpose.
Because of this, I believe Cro Cop was held up to answer some questions that might help in these investigations in order to bring those responsible (I doubt he was highly ranked enough to stand trial for these crimes) to justice. That’s why he was asked about chains of command and who was stationed where and when. The fact is that Canada (memebers of our forensic anthropology community) were asked to help investigate these alleged crimes not only by international courts but by the civilians in that particular area of the world, and that’s what we were doing.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Dude….don’t talk anymore.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
"That meat which you have just tasted........was human meat!"
Pain don't hurt...
Reply fail ^ was for Kevjack 115
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
"That meat which you have just tasted........was human meat!"
Pain don't hurt...
oh ok, I'm sorry I'm not wound as tight as some of you
my opinion is shit and I’ll creep back into the hole I came from
I’m a war vet, so your comments are pretty foolish sounding to me.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
"That meat which you have just tasted........was human meat!"
Pain don't hurt...
and if you've been here for any length of time
you’d know I’m 100% in support of our troops and thank god for you guys every day, my wife also works for the VA, not for a check, because as she says she’s there to serve our veterans!
When you say “I don’t care what happens in war.” You are an idiot.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
"That meat which you have just tasted........was human meat!"
Pain don't hurt...
He also said he'd rather do anything than have a soldier injured
is he an idiot for that?
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
This was a dumb thing to say.
“As long as they r good citizens now, I don’t care what was done in war, it’s kill or be killed. Anyone with compassion or a heart end up getting shot in the back by the same women and children they are now accused of killing”
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
"That meat which you have just tasted........was human meat!"
Pain don't hurt...
I don't agree with Kev
but his opinion is respected and appreciated. You’re a vet and you’re denying someone the right to their opinion? That sucks. I thank you for your service but I question your commitment to why you fought.
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
He can say what he wants…. he just shouldn’t.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
"That meat which you have just tasted........was human meat!"
Pain don't hurt...
You can tell a person to shut up because you don't agree with their opinion..you just shouldn't
We can go to war over any little thing…we just shouldn’t.
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
An MMA blog argument and going to war are slightly different.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
"That meat which you have just tasted........was human meat!"
Pain don't hurt...
and who compared the two?
I was saying there’s a lot of things in this world we CAN do…just shouldn’t
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
I agree.
There are a lot of places the US should not go because even if it was done for the best of intentions we will be looked as the bad guys. We will be the wrong ones. If a mistake happens; its because we intentionally and willfully wanted to blow up 200 hundred civilian. That our missle are made to only hit civilians. They just avoid people in uniform. So in many ways I think it becomes a lose lose scenario when the US decides to get involved.
Did anyone see which country is the # 1 risk to peace?
That would be the good ’ol red white & blue. Voted more of a threat than China or Korea.
Don’t get me wrong – the US was a great ally in WW2 but since then whatever they get involved in is questionable. Like it was posted above, what did Sadam do to deserve death to the US? I’d say that they US was more of a risk to Iraq than vice versa and now look at what is going on over there and this will never end now.
Ok – go ahead and shoot me now.
Hey - who cuts your hair?
Cheech Marin - Up in Smoke
by hairybumcrack on Jun 15, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The States is always in a horrible spot though. Either they go in like in Iraq (motives aside) and get shit on, or they don’t do anything like Rwanda and get shit on. They tend to be in a lose lose situation. That’s just me playing devil’s advocate.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
If the US is more of a threat than Korea...then morons or people with agendas were obviously polled. For a dangerous country, other nations sure do look to us for alot of help.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I'm just stating something that was identified on CNN - that's all
North Korea is all talk with no action…..no risk there at all.
Hey - who cuts your hair?
Cheech Marin - Up in Smoke
by hairybumcrack on Jun 16, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
bro
I respect ur opinion on this matter more than anyone, my stance is this, you save a woman and her chid because it’s the right thing to do, then they turn around and try to harm you, that’s the reality of war no? it’s not right, and it’s cowardly, but it’s reality
i dont think you know what a war crime is. unless this a trolling attempt im really shocked by your statements on this thread but that seems to be a common trend with you so i shouldnt be surprised anymore...
"You're in this dark tunnel and you've got no way out, you're waiting for light, and you see that light, what do you do? What do you do? You start digging, and getting out. ... I've always beleived you stay in the tunnel and you keep digging when you expect no light. You have the same faith when you expect no light. You have the same beleif in what you're doing when you expect no light. ... It's dark and I'm going to dig through. My shovel is sharp and my pick is sharp and my will is outstanding." --Rod Marinelli 2008 (on his way to that sweet 16!)
by DrewMoney$$$ on Jun 15, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry buddy
I was sick yesterday, woke up drenched 4 or 5 times in middle of the night and throwing up. I’m not really interested in writing about Chuck retiring as he should have a while ago, I’ll do something this week.
What the fuck does any of this have to do with him fighting Pat Barry?
No power tripping Canada!!! You have no ground to to stand on!! Did they help in the effort to correct the torture and war crimes? NO!!!! so they should keep asses in there seats like usual and take que from the American gov.
What?
At least you showed up and made Kev seem smart in this thread.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
But not on a boat D101. Nothing is gay on a boat, that’s how the Navy gets away with it.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Glad I could be of assistance. We should all be aware of when and when we are not allowed to gay it up. At a football game – No…In prison – Yes.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
I don’t claim to be an expert, I was just trying to give you some answers. You will have to test that one out yourself.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
wait a minute, that word is trademarked by the JohnGRants Co.
infringement!
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 15, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Pack Leader, I'm not gay. But my boyfriend is suspect.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
I said suspect. Nothing confirmed.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Jay, can you change that god damn sig already. You keep bringing me down from my buzz that I got getting that T-shirt signed by him.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
My computer is broken at home and it won't work on this computer.
I know, it sucks.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Keep the sig jay, it makes me smile
I <3 Dana White, the Ruler and Savior of the MMA World, and will serve his disciple, Synyster, faithfully to the end.
by David W-S on Jun 15, 2010 7:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What do you mean?
canada is also fighting and losing lives in the middle east …we are helping with writing the wrongs around the world…
and kev is "writing" the wrongs on this thread! (couldn't resist, boo me if you must)
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
BOOOOOO! American arrogance^^^
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
WTF?
In my oppinion, they made a complete ASS of themselves and their country! Although I don’t blame the whole country personnally! I really love Canada! Friendliest place I’ve ever been! But, WTF is up with this? It’s not like he has ties to some terrorist organization! At least, not that I know of! Am I missing something?
by Danas A Crossdresser on Jun 15, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe their grasping for straws on a cold case or something
I’ve got nothing… who knows. Pretty stupid thing to have do to poor Mirko. At least at the end of the process the final outcome was correct.
Wierd.
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
by Bigger Zino on Jun 15, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
He said they were doing their job correctly, so I doubt he has hard feelings. It worked out in the end.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
I know, MM!
But, reading between the lines a little, you can see what appears to be a diplomatic effort by a frustrated Mirko to downplay the event. No doubt advised by the Attorney and Dana in order to play nice in case he wants to fight in Canada again! I believe the situation was uglier than he’s letting on! My question is, “Why interrogate HIM?”
by Danas A Crossdresser on Jun 15, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
The world is a fickle place.
Let us remember that whatever laws we abide by or live by they are only good in one country; ours. Will something like that happen again? probably. Simply put Dana and company have to be aware of what rule, laws or other regulations govern the country they are visiting. Because the notion of innocent until proven guilty only works here brother. You want free speech; Abu Dhabi will give you the back hand. Simply put; Be aware of where you are and then put your best foot forward.
I agree and you are 100% correct!
But, Canada is a great country! I believe they are above this type of behavior! Unless, they feel he is a threat in some way. Which, I highly doubt is the case! I have to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I’m reading the possibility of a covert operation that must have involved the Canadian Military (and possibly some Geneva convention violations whereas interrogation methods are concerned) probably in the 90’s that they were hoping he could shed some light on!
by Danas A Crossdresser on Jun 15, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I would not doubt it.
The US, Canada and Europe were supporting Croatia during the 90’s and their seperation from Serbia. Was something dirty occurring, i would not doubt it. But then you get this guilt ridden politician 20 years later with sands in their vag, and boom you go and pick on someone who at the time was nothing but a conscript.
correct
and when croatia first started fighting for its independence from serbia, croatia didn’t even have a functional army. they were all conscripts along with a few hundred members of the special police (Lucko ATJ). actually at the time of the war the Lucko units were the only combat ready troops and there wasn’t many of them. i think the croat’s did quite well considering the vast military machine the russian backed serb’s had rolling in to town. croat’s were tortured and raped. i wouldn’t blame the croatians one bit if they tortured some serbian commanders, but they certainly didn’t have time to waste on torturing civilians, they were too heavily outnumbered
expect to see more of this
a lot of fighters come from checkered backgrounds and/or military. As things get more international UFC will be holding shows in countries that have a problem with another countries’ politics and want to make an example of someone….and there will be fighters who are suspected of having been on the wrong side of some conflict or issue.
pffffft.
Look at canada..acting like they would actually DO something with some military intel. Lol…I’m just messin around, I know there’s lots of cool canadians on this site. Customs is a pain in the ass tho..for anyone who travels frequently
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by salamagogo on Jun 15, 2010 12:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I can confirm that Sala. I get searched everytime, I get asked alot of questions and my passport is examined like someone is going to take a test.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
LOL.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I have been to Canada about 10 times
The only place I ever had any trouble was Niagara heading towards Toronto. Vancouver was always a piece of cake, basically just got waved right through. This is a bit suprising, but I guess anyone with a heavy military background like CroCops may have some questions thrown their way….but this sounds a bit over the top.
Niagara border was terrible though, unfriendliest Canadians Ive ever run into
by domino effect on Jun 15, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
just imagine if ufc successfully expanded into china
I imagine encounters like these would be very frequent
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by salamagogo on Jun 15, 2010 12:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
If the U.S. had done this all the Canadians on this site would have their panties in a bunch.
"We love going to Canadian cities and beating Canadian teams." - Drew Doughty
The US does it everyday to people who look arab or middle eastern.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Canada does it as well. It happened to me in MTL.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
You were trying to enter with an illegal beard.
It was play-off time and that thing wasn’t even full grown. They knew you were up to something.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
I'm not sure I get it.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
LOL! Yes. I know a thing or 2 about pyschology, tovarisch (sp).
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Beautiful brown men are not allowed. :)
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
To be fair, you are a little bit too beautiful for Canada to just let across unquestioned.
What if you planned on coming in here and impregnating all our women? Who would explain to all the bastards who the daddy was?
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Lester the Pimp would hang himself, that's for sure.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
LMFAO!
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
haha Jay, admit it...
You and OJR spent some very romantic moments alone in MTL
Bullets dodge Fedor.
He was turned on by me screaming at the Kimbo fans in rage. That masculinity and my facial hair impressed him.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I was insane with joy and vented like a madman. Quite a scene.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Embarrassing, if you are the guy next to him.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
I wish!
LOL
We had a great time, you should have come with us. A great bunch of Maniacs on here I can tell you that. These guys are like old friends when you meet them.
Yes, I was extremely impressed by you and Zino with the yelling. You know me, I’m very quiet and like to blend into the background.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Exactly. Its a world wide thing and not just the US. I don't care I have nothing to hide.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
He WAS deiscovered perusing (very titillating) contraband
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
LOL
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
Funny stuff, TKK!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Looks like you put a lot of work into those, pal.
Good job.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Awesome!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I can't help myself when it comes to the Pride guys..especially Cro Cop of course.
"I just can't wait to hit Chuck with my balls!" ~Tito Ortiz.
I honestly believe that people that put down Cro Cop, the Nogs, Fedor etc........
Never truly watched Pride or followed the fighters. Cro Cop was the man inside and out of the ring, a true legend in the art of fighting, from K-1 to MMA, the guy was seriously the most feared striker in MMA at one point. He was the last guy to go the distance with Fedor and had Fedor doing the chicken dance at one point. He had Nog rocked and was only denied victory imo due to Nog being saved by the Bell. Fuck all the haters and the shit-talking noobs who like to pretend they watched when they should really download career packs from Nog, Fedor, Wand, and Mirko Filipovic and see what real fighters with Pride are all about.I’m sure it will open a few eyes.
"I just can't wait to hit Chuck with my balls!" ~Tito Ortiz.
+1
"You're in this dark tunnel and you've got no way out, you're waiting for light, and you see that light, what do you do? What do you do? You start digging, and getting out. ... I've always beleived you stay in the tunnel and you keep digging when you expect no light. You have the same faith when you expect no light. You have the same beleif in what you're doing when you expect no light. ... It's dark and I'm going to dig through. My shovel is sharp and my pick is sharp and my will is outstanding." --Rod Marinelli 2008 (on his way to that sweet 16!)
by DrewMoney$$$ on Jun 15, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
its like the leg lamp from "a christmas story"
Minus the femenism and the fishnet
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by salamagogo on Jun 15, 2010 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
this thread was a really good read
I try to stay out of politics for the most part, as I know its a hot topic with no real winners. But I thoroughly enjoyed this read.
MM_eh
Micah_W
SoCal
Ojr
Kev (you crazy fucker)
Though I shared some of your views, and strongly opposed others, I respect your input, and you made this thread a very diverse and interesting read.
Thx guys.
Ps: Tkkpal, I stole every one of those pics for future screensavers. Well done brotheran.
*ABM*
by daniel worby on Jun 15, 2010 1:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I know I missed a few (freenow, d_smith, danas a…), but nonetheless I enjoyed this thread.
*ABM*
by daniel worby on Jun 15, 2010 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
THURSDAY MORNING BLACKBELT?
Since you missed yesterday…fucktard! :)
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
damn, two fucktards in 5 min
sounds good, im feeling better today, even though all these political conversations tend to go against me. I’m sorry that I care less about things like this than most. wars happen, people die, get over it.
MMBB - Fucktard Edition?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
If nobody gave a shit Kev, then there would be much worse things going on. It would be all Mad Max up in this motha.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
true mmeh
u know what I mean though, but for some reason, I have to spell everything I say out, there is no interpretation!
I know what you mean, I’ve been here long enough. We should (not everyone of course cares) question methodology and the implimentation of war in order to stop attrocities before they happen. It’s about trying to change the mindset and hegemony of governments who would normally use war crime methods to win wars to governments who find them appalling like normal citizens do.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Showtime is on Superchannel in Canada
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Lol...I didn't add anything constructive
I was so enraged I couldn’t see straight and reacted very poorly. Thanks for the honorable mention though.
But I will say this
OJ, Onemansyn, MM_Eh, H.I. McDunnough, MicahW, Phrevos- all great contributors to this thread, very intelligent as always and a great read. Thanks.
Well, I’ve worked with people who uncovered some of the mass graves in these countries (Kosovo, Rwanda, Darfur, and East Timor to name a few) and I’ll tell you they never come back to Canada acting the same. What they see there changes them for life, and I think if people knew the kinds of things that went on in other places in the world they would be outraged (or wouldn’t believe humans could do it in the first place). People here the words war crime and just think it’s murder, but once you see infants with machete wounds to the head because they’re not worth a bullet, or women with their breasts cut off so they can’t feed their kids, I think it takes on a new meaning.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
*hear the words
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
I understand that and that's why
When Kevin says what he believes I find it mind blowing. I know that’s how he thinks and that he’s missing the empathy gene in every sense. Most of time I can respect it and move on but other times I’m infuriated. I also know from experience that trying to use analogies is useless with him because he really doesn’t care…so I just read on and appreciated those of you who tried. You guys did a great job (if used on a regular people) and I really respect the perspectives and experiences everyone brought to the table. Kevin is a puppy kicker. That is all.
What’s to explain? Brown people are worth 1/10 that of an American life. Don’t you watch Fox news?
/sarcasm
by HappyLittleTreez on Jun 15, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I like cro-cop more now, he aint no snitch! He's a G!
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It's never right to torture. The End.
"Battle not with monsters lest you become one."
by HappyLittleTreez on Jun 15, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
Its ok to tourture if you Jack Bauer and there is a Nuke in town
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
If you’re torturing me, I’ll tell you where the nukes are even if I don’t fucking know. That’s how I know it doesn’t work.
by HappyLittleTreez on Jun 15, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
they're going to kill you anyways
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I would ask for some booty and a sandwich before I spill the beans...might as well go out happy
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
duh...obviously something with bacon...I don't care where I am though..if its not what I ordered I'm sending it back and there will be NO TIP
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
is there any other kind?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
ham? is that what they call bacon down there? lol
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
As long as they don't provide bagged milk - then I know that its a bunch of Canadian weirdos that have me in captivity.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
haha...thats torture...DRINK IT!!!!!
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Milk-boarding
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I'll take real bacon
and canadian bacon or as we call it, ham, on my egg sandwich, fair enough…after we kill and torture innocent people! lol, how my words get misconstrued!
huh? Ham is not Canadian bacon you dummy
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
not even close (other than being a pig product)
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
if I order bacon and get ham I'm gonna lose it
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
My plan is to smoke my own bacon in October.
Maybe even try curing a ham in the garage.
I LOVE PIG. (there was a time that meant something totally different.)
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
me too...my fav animal by far and I'm 99% sure we've had this convo before Ulf
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
We had the top 10 meats convo, not sure about the curing convo, lol.
I know you are a natural “foodie” also, so I try to mix all my favorite subjects together.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Peameal Bacon is Canadian bacon
Your regular bacon is the same as our regular bacon. Ham is ham
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
It just dawned on me that kev has probably never had real back bacon.
I am used to getting it because of friends near Buffalo. I would highly doubt he has seen anything other than Swanson or Jimmy Dean “Canadian” bacon, which really is smoked ham.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Canadian or Peameal Bacon
Normal bacon
Ham
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Peameal looks like ham but believe me...it is not
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Looks like ham but you canucks call it bacon. 0_o
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
its called Canadian bacon cause we're smart enough to figure out its not ham
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I dub this debate Bacon Gate
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I usually use the word Canadian bacon for that round dried out ham slices they have in the states. We never say that up here, we say peameal bacon and bacon bacon minus the second bacon.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
anyone had scrapple?
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
It's cured loin, not shoulder or flank.
Still has the “grainy” texture like a loin pork chop, but is smoother.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
it is tenderloin, but it is cured and then fried.
not roasted or grilled. The curing process brings out a ton of flavor.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
mmmmm
I love tenderloin.
when ordering “canadian” bacon in canada, do you guys say bacon or canadian bacon?
We don’t say the phrase Canadian bacon at all. That was something that you guys did in the US to church up ham. We say bacon and we get bacon, we say peameal bacon and we get peameal bacon. If we say Canadian bacon we get confused looks for the most part.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
GD
this again! I thought this was settled a few weeks back. Dammit. Canadian bacon sucks. It is just ham.
hahaha
Preach on Deuce. I’m having horrible flashbacks from a week ago.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
lmao
I was kidding. if you guys in Canada ordered it as “Canadian Bacon” I’d say you were retards. it’s obviously just bacon. Kinda like the time I said I was in Canada for Canadian thanksgiving one year and one of you geniouses pointed out that up there it’s just called thanksgiving
Well, clearly you didn’t see the thread a week ago that covered this. Bacon is a touchy subject brother.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Canadians are sensitive. Everything is touchy for you guys.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Bacon is a touchy subject for the world. This is a much larger issue than Canada OJ.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Ha! At least YOU have a sense of humor about it.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I think most of the Igloo Nation has a good sense of humour about our selves on here. It just gets wearing when you know some dudes have never been north of Nashville and talk shit about Canada out of ignorance and are being serious. Guys like you who are just joking around are good in our books.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Fair enough.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
the middle pic is what i know
I do like ordering a Canadian bacon (ham) and pineapple pizza tho. bomb!
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 15, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Think of the heart disease, too. No thanks.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
got to agree with the canadians OJR (and it hurt)
lets not gay up pork, my wife has made me cut it down and she doesn’t eat red meat at all, so I’m very sensitive on this topic!
Red meat once a week is enough for you, Kevin. Your son will thank you for being around longer. Your wife is right. Sorry, man!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Yes. Pork, too.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
LMAO @ red meat once a week
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
not literally mac
but I was waiting for that. I just ate a rib eye 5 min ago and have pork tenderloin lined up for tomorrow. I don’t like poultry all that much ( I do like dark meat), but it’s all my wife eats, so I really am diverse when cooking
Medianoche sandwich with a conjugal visit by a JLO look alike
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
as long as it looks like her from behind? thats dangerous...hopefully those torturers don't just dress up...its bad enough your already getting tortured but having sex with a dude would just be wrong
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Yeah but that makes him gay. Not me.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
he doesn't care...who are you going to tell? You'll be dead soon and probably have already had your tongue removed
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I will take his eyes out with my goatee.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
ya....I read you were starting a goatee club or something...like jay and kev's beard club
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I only have goatee now
my beard was a 6 week fad. my goatee has been around for yrs, just the other day my wife mentioned she’d never seen me without it, and we’ve been together 10 yrs
I can't stand having a beard...gets itchy
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
LOL
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
beggars can't be choosers
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
LMAO!! Too far
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
His ass is too small. Give me Tyson Griffin. "That's a badankadonk!" - Joe Rogan.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
haha...*face all bloody, barely able to raise arm but points at a BLT*
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
keep reading....OJ mentioed something about sandwiches
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I've heard only good things. I might actually watch it when it comes to cable.
If there’s nothing better on like the Golden Girls or something.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Hey no offense.....
but I was talking to BJPennFan, learn how to use the “up” button you fuck….lol jk buddy I can’t resist the temptation to fuck with you……..lol
O_o
I knew who you were talking to. I know how to use the UP button.
Just don’t care about either. If you typed something onto Mania, you’re talking to me. I AM MANIA.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
be careful; bowing could be seen as bending over from a different angle
lol just had to throw that in there with that talk about “suspect” behaviour u guys were having
what's cable?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
LOL...there will be no cable by the time the A-Team makes it there
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
do you have a VCR too? LOL
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
vic20
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Before mine too, but I did have a commodore 64.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
same time...vic20 and the 64 were right after Atari 2600
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
I am a bit younger than you
but I did buy an intellivision from my neighbor when I was a kid. Snafu was fun.
ColecoVision
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
It was a fun movie some good humor and good action.
Of course alot of it was over the top and cheesy but i liked it. And Jessica Biel oh so hot. She needed to strip down a bit though that bitch. I would say rent it when it comes out.
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
i ait til it comes on Video on Demand
i havent been to a blockbuster in years…..
And Jessica Biel oh so hot. She needed to strip down a bit though that bitch
LOL
HellaHectic, KOS, and Rashad gang-banged my mom.
by SouthCaliStunNa on Jun 15, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Since there is alot of interest in this thread, lets have another look at CC in action, not bad in fairness to him, lets just hope he can string a few Wins together.
These kicks are right up my alley…..nothing nicer than inflicting maximum damage or watching someone attempt to with, hook kicks, back-side kicks, axe-kicks, turning kicks, back reverse hook kicks……all devastating if performed right. 
"I just can't wait to hit Chuck with my balls!" ~Tito Ortiz.
that last one is crazy, it almost looks like his leg is totally straight.
why don’t fighters use a straight forward kick more often? Not a high one, just forward. seems underutilized.
Axe kick
It’s an axe kick.
Muay Thai baby.
"I'll make that [expletive] fight right now for free. Let's do it."
- Dana White on Fedor vs Lesnar
TKD baby, you wouldn'y see that thrown much un Muay Thai...
That is a Tae Kwon Do kick through and through.
"I just can't wait to hit Chuck with my balls!" ~Tito Ortiz.
True but if the opponent can read it then you'll likely be taken down
I don’t think CC was worried about that in this fight with Barry tho.
Silly Canucks
Seriously, what would Canada be without the US as it’s neighbor?
Well, for starters......
-We wouldn’t have to wear Canadian flags on our clothing while visiting other countries, so people won’t throw things at us.
-We would be considered the fattest country in North America.
-We would be considered the dumbest country in North America.
-We would be considered the ugliest country in North America.
I could go on, but I’m a nice Canadian.
"I'll make that [expletive] fight right now for free. Let's do it."
- Dana White on Fedor vs Lesnar
lol classic introvert
we’ve all been wondering where you been bro, some of us fat, lazy, dumb ugly americans enjoy your point of view.
lol
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
by Bigger Zino on Jun 15, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Intro is right about one thing : French Canadian women are HOT!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
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