Dana White has no problem with stoppage in Carlos Condit-Rory MacDonald UFC 115 fight
by MMAmania.com on Jun 13, 2010 11:14 AM EDT
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"I'm the first one to blast a referee or judge for making bad calls, but in my opinion, referees aren't looking at the time -- they couldn't give a shit what time it is or how much time is left. They're there to protect the fighters. Rory's a young guy, he's got a lot of fights ahead of him and he took a lot of damage in that last round. I didn't have any problem with the stoppage. It's just unfortunate when a fight stops with seconds left, you know? It's just one of those things, but you won't hear me bitching about that one."
UFC President Dana White shares his two cents on the questionable stoppage in the fight between Carlos Condit and Rory MacDonald at UFC 115 from the GM Place in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, on June 12. It came with just seven seconds remaining in the 15-minute welterweight bout after the previously undefeated Canadian prodigy turned in a very solid first two rounds. In fact, Condit admitted afterward that he felt like he was behind on the scorecards and needed to take out MacDonald to ensure victory. Mission accomplished. For what it's worth, MacDonald also admitted that he was not bitter about the referee's decision to stop the fight when he did. What say you ... did the referee do MacDonald a favor after watching him get abused for basically the entire final round or would you have liked to have heard what the judges sitting ringside had to say instead?
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I was surprised it wasn't stopped sooner; that kid was taking a serious beating
He looked fucked up at the end of that rd. Condit tooled the hell out of him in rd 3.
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2010 11:18 AM EDT reply actions
I completely agree
He could hardly move and was waiving his hands around loosely, that’s not “protecting himself”. It was a good stoppage and could have come even earlier in my opinion.
Bullets dodge Fedor.
it's good he stopped it.
cause condit won the fight and had it gone to the judges we might have seen a different result.
gli azzurri !
OMG Bro
When we saw MacDonald at the end of the fight we said exactly the same thing. Rocckky Rooaad?
by PenguinDreams on Jun 13, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Lame stoppage
macdonald wouldve won the decision..
by Lester The Pimp on Jun 13, 2010 11:23 AM EDT reply actions
Macdonald didn't deserve the decision
Condit beat the living shit out of him; please make some sense, do you post ignorantly on purpose or what?
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Glad it didn't get stopped
Because Lester may be right with the F’ed up scoring system Mac may have got the decision. But I agree with OD and Dana. No problem with the stoppage. The ass kicking in round 3 was enough to make me forget that Rory had the edge in the first two. Those first two rounds were close Lester. So you may be right that he would have got the decision but we all know he wouldn’t have deserved it.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Jun 13, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
what do you mean "he wouldn't have deserved it?"
looked to me like he won the first 2 rounds. The 3rd could’ve been a 10-8, making it a draw, but MMA judges are reluctant to give out 10-8 rounds, so it prolly woulda been a majority or unanimous decision for Rory.
MMA is Life
When I see a man clearly beaten down and broken
How could a person even feel that they deserve to win when they take that kind of beating in the last rd of the fight? He lost; hands down, Condit handed him his ass in rd. 3.
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
You're scoring this as a real fight - it's a sport.
The rounds are scored as its own individual fight. If this was Pride, Condit would’ve won the decision easily.
You can’t just look at how the fight ended. Too many people make that mistake, and they get pissed at the judging. It’s like when the last 30 seconds of the round count for like 50% of the fight. “Finish strong!” – i hate that.
MMA is Life
The kid even admitted defeat post fight to Rogan; props to him for doing so because it's not easy to man up and say "yea i lost."
There is no controversy here and no question as to who won that fight.
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Not if rd. 3 was a 10-8 rd
And I believe it easily could’ve been.
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree it was 10-8. If it went to the scorecards, i score it a draw.
but i dont think 3 judges are going to give 10-8 rds. I’ve seen more one-sided beatdowns resulting in 10-9.
MMA is Life
What pisses me off
is the lack of 10-10 rounds. But the judging by the athletic commission is crooked. There I said it.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on Jun 14, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
And given that kids character and the way he spoke
He wouldn’t have wanted to win like that; he knew he’d lost and took the high road, very impressive the way he handled himself.
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
And excellent stoppage by the referee
Letting this go to the judges and giving them the opportunity to award a decision to a beaten fighter, that knows in his own mind that he lost would’ve been criminal.
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s when you wonder, after a beating like that, he wouldn’t have deserved the decision, and would the last round have easily been a 10-8 if it went to the end? I would probably think so.
"THIS IS THE GREATEST UPSET IN THE HISTORY OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS!"
Gus Johnson will never live that down and it should never be forgotten.
macdonald didnt deserve the decision!
he won the 1st 2 rounds comfortably imo 8 more seconds and he won the fight.id give condit the winner of brown/lytle nxt hes about at that level.hes srappy but hes been beat by kampmann,got a dodgy win against ellenberger and won a fight just with grittiness and experience definitley not top 5 material imo
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
im with o damn!
i am fully aware of how these fights get scored, and it would have killed me to see rorys hand raised, with his face looking all jacked up, while condit was clean. Rory won the first two round but not by a landslide, if any thing it would have been based on the take downs (wich i hate, because condit was doing more damage from his back) so im very happy with the way this fight ended.
i think it could have gone the last 5 seconds.
just watched it and conduit is pretty tired at the end. Macdonald definately could have taken 8 more seconds…
live simply.
It might've been a draw but Macdonald did not deserve to win that fight after rd. 3
He was clearly beaten at that point in the fight.
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
a draw? lol
smells like a butthurt fanboy
29-28 macdonald, regardless of the last 2 minutes of the last round.
by Lester The Pimp on Jun 13, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
It's a fight... the goal is to win the fight
At the end of the 3rd rd who in their right mind would’ve said given another minute Macdonald would’ve come back to win it. He was BEATEN; he even admitted himself post fight to Rogan “I got my ass kicked” from the fighters own mouth. Why do you insist on posting stupid shit?
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
And rd. 3 was EASILY 10-8 Condit
That was 5 straight minutes of Condit dropping elbows and hammer fists and smashing that kids face in.
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
you stupid asshole
it was not FIVE minutes it was TWO, rewatch the fucking fight and come back and apologize.
by Lester The Pimp on Jun 13, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Lester you consistently post the dumbest shit I've ever read in my life
You are a real life redneck retard that knows how to type. WTF did Rory do in rd. 3 BESIDES get his ass kicked that makes you think that was a 10-9 rd? You’re a fuckin idiot.
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey you two!!
Say your sorry and give each-other a hug… and if that goes well then who knows what you can do with/to each other ;)
Now.. did that hurt??
Now.. did that hurt??I agree with Odamn that it SHOULD have been a 10-8 round if it ended up on the scorecards, but I have a hard time believing it would have been, the judges are pretty stingy with their 10-8’s.
If it went to the scorecards
I would’ve scored it a draw, but the judges (like u said) are stingy with 10-8 rounds, so atleast 1 judge woulda scored it 29-28 Rory, the other 2 28-28.
I dont think the judges should ever take the time into consideration when stopping a fight, but this stoppage looked slightly premature.
MMA is Life
Youre pretty much the only one with that opinion
You are a real life spic who needs to get his fucking eyes checked. You’re a fuckin idiot.
by Lester The Pimp on Jun 13, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
“I agree with Odamn” – RayRayJr
“But I agree with OD and Dana. " – Fenderacoustic
“I completely agree " – Freenow82
I’m the ONLY one with that opinion, cause Lester doesn’t know how the fuck to read. Isn’t Nascar on ? Don’t they got a blog you can go spam your retard opinions in?
That’s right girl, let me whisper in your ear
Baby wake up, we’re naked and we’re humpin’ sexy
For the last fifteen minutes baby, that’s what’s been happen’
Yeah, too late now, it’s on.
by O damn he got caught on Jun 13, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
dude don't waste your time on that kid
Everyone knows Lester is a waste of DNA. He didn’t get enough milk as a kid and is now acting out.
Bullets dodge Fedor.
+1
Now if ya heart was as big as ya mouth you'd be real, but its not so I know if you get knocked you'll squeal.
by kneegrowdamnus@gmail.com on Jun 14, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with Dana about the ref not watching the clock for decisions, BUT it is ridiculous to let the kid get pounded for 2+ minutes, and then stop it with 7 seconds left. If you are going to stop it, then stop it. But at the 7 second remaining mark he was in no worse shape than he was at the 30 second left mark.
I had no vested interest in who won that fight so I’m not biased. I just think with 7 seconds left the fighter should be in serious peril for a stoppage.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
If you...
actually watch the replay… The ref starts to jump in at the 10 sec mark, im not even sure the ref knew how much time is left… And they are trained to stop the fight REGARDLESS of the time on the clock… Good stoppage in my eyes
Yeah
he was watching the fight pretty close. He didn’t look at his watch or anything. Good stoppage. Sorry Rory you came out strong and I’m sure you’ll be back. But not your night.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on Jun 13, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
really unlucky for him 9 seconds longer & he would have won
but i suppose it happens he had a great first & second round i was pissed off at the time cause i’d backed him oh well
He was getting killed there at the end,
regardless of winning the first 2 rnds he got stopped in the 3rd, what can you say. It was a great fight.
My initial reaction was that the stoppage was BS
But after seeing it over again, Condit’s interview with Helwani, etc., my only issue was that it should have been stopped at a more appropriate time, like a few seconds earlier when Condit was throwing strikes. I felt the stoppage was okay but should have occurred at a moment when something was happening.
I also like Dana's comment about how the ref's are there simply to protect the fighters...
We don’t need refs doing favors for fighters, Miragliotta almost got Mir killed attempting that.
Exactly...
The morons who think “he could have made it for a bit longer!” are ignoring safety.
The refs are there to protect the fighters PERIOD.
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As soon as I saw Rory's eye puff up
I was hoping for a stoppage for his sake. He’s a great kid and has a fuckton of potential, but he was seriously in danger.
This wasn’t Chavez-Taylor.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
by Johnny WF on Jun 13, 2010 1:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
doesnt matter if its in the final 5 seconds or the first minute....
reminds me of how fans tend to forget things, take the nfl schedule…folks wil toss the entire season on how they do the final 2-3 weeks…when there was another 13-14 games that put you in that position to begin with…..all the games are just as important for your record, and in a fight, anytime it should be stopped for the fighters safety and because it looks to be over…people will point to how much time is left…what the heck does that matter…its part of the fight.
hey Vancouver, way to make canada look bad by booing condit
Lets boo someone because they acualy know what to do with a takedown
The Red Wings will come back stronger
RESTORE THE ROAR 2010 Detroit Lions
condit got his ass handled in the fist 2.. and why the fuck would vancouver cheer for condit if he’s fighting a guy that lives near vancouver?
"You got knocked the fuck out!" - Chris Tucker, Friday
"My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!" - Mike Tyson
"got his ass handled"
rory didnt even throw any ground and pound and was holding him on the ground. They wernt even on the ground that long in the first 2 rounds and condit inflickted 10x more damage in the 3rd then rory did the whole fight
The Red Wings will come back stronger
RESTORE THE ROAR 2010 Detroit Lions
i agree got his ass handed is a bit strong
but on tds alone he won the 1st 2 rounds and he was more precise with his strikes.the sweep takedown was class aswell.
"whats the difference if Bruce Springsteen is his shidoshi?"
I know rory won the first 2 I was just got pissed when i read got his ass handled lol
The Red Wings will come back stronger
RESTORE THE ROAR 2010 Detroit Lions
handled is a bit strong i guess but carlos was slow and had bad timing in the first 2.. only landed that one shot that really rocked macdonald and then got rocked right back. macdonald started the third kicking his ass again then gassed out after all of the power shots he connected with and couldn’t finish him.. macdonald was still intelligently defending himself even though he was getting mauled.. he was moving and holding on to condit and obviously wasn’t out, he may have been very dazed but not out.
with all of that being said, if it was a title fight then there would be no chance for macdonald in the 4th round.. i definately give condit props for making the come back and think macdonald showed some good heart as well
"You got knocked the fuck out!" - Chris Tucker, Friday
"My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!" - Mike Tyson
Gr8 fight!! True warriors both if them!
Rory beat him the 1st 2 rounds for sure. But carlos came back with a vengance’! Both showed mad heart . It was the right call & they cud of called it sooner.
by d*locc on Jun 13, 2010 2:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ref looks like Howard Ledered
Great fight. Cant argue with the stoppage. He could’ve stopped it sooner
Confucius says:
"Baseball is wrong; man with four balls cannot walk."
Slightly Upset
I agree that the fight should have been stopped, but I think that ref shoulda chose to stop it sooner not when Condit fall on top of MacDonald and get’s grabbed…plus if the ref had let that one go those last 10 seconds I would have been 5 of 5 on my picks
Good Call
Thing is i thought Carlos won the first round, when you take someone down you need to work, when Rory got him down all he did was lay while Carlos punched him, and worked his rubber guard. Onto Carlos, this guy is a true warrior, he’s got great cardio and he just keeps bringing it all the way to the end. I had it even going to the third, then Condit just beat the shit out of him, either way great fight. I wish every fight was fought like that.
by MasterWhiteTiger on Jun 13, 2010 5:50 PM EDT reply actions
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