UFC 113: Alan Belcher piledriver on Patrick Cote (Pic)
by Jesse Holland on May 9, 2010 8:24 AM EDT
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Following his submission loss to "The Talent," Cote called the move "illegal." Where do you stand on these types of offensive moves in a mixed martial arts bout?
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haha its so terrible was the guitar thing there before i cant remember its terrible looks like a pooly done prison tat
by groundfightingislovemaking on May 9, 2010 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what I say
It’s so bad it’s awesome!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
I agree 100%
I’m liking Alan a lot. He’s on of my favorite up and coming fighters.
Confucius says:
"Baseball is wrong; man with four balls cannot walk."
Fuck Cote.
Belcher was clearly slamming him horizontally and was not trying to ram his head into the canvas.
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Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
by freenow82 on May 9, 2010 3:00 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i like cote
and im glad to see him back in the cage after a terrible injury…but him saying the move was illegal was just him trying to justify a loss
Doesn’t matter what he intended to do, he slamed his head into the canvas. I think it was illegal. I felt bad for Cote after the nut shot, and then the pile-driver.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Sorry Dude
You are exactly right when you say he slammed his head into the canvas, which is different than spiking him on his head into the canvas. The one you mentioned, the one he did, totally legal. Let’s not forget, it would have been easier to pick up 1/2 of Cote and dump him on his head, Belcher put in A LOT of extra effort to make sure he went horizontal.
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
by JasonFahQ on May 9, 2010 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cote went face-first, which is totally legal. Spiking him on top of his head, which Belcher didn’t do, is illegal.
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Now that I think about it, that was a lot closer to a Triple-H Pedigree than a piledriver.
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the only reason he didnt land on the top of his head is because Cote looked down and tried to avoid possible paralysis.
Wow
That was actually worse than I remember. That was totally up and down and vertical. Nice find JB.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
It's close
He pushed his head down and then dropped him on it… SO…. I don’t see the problem with it but it was a close call.
No it was legal....
He lands face first… Spiking when a fighter gets slamed on the top of his head….Face first and top of the head are completely different…Go to the 4 minute mark on this video and this is spiking a fighter….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it8z3N6Cdt0
The Definition of spiking for fighting purposes is a slam that compresses the spine. Face first doesn’t compress the spine anymore then getting slammed on the back of your head Rampage style….
I was a fool for ever doubting Shogun. I should be ashamed for never giving him a chance to get healthy. Shogun made Machida look B-level-Just like my bet made me look b-level!
Slamming forehead first like Cote was can leave you with a serious case of Pezz-Dispenseritis. Just as dangerous of a condition.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
HAHAHA....
I love all the slick rebuttles from the regulars on here…My wife walks in on me laughing to myself all the time. I think she is begining to think I am just plum crazy. She can never find the humor in any of this and she is an mma fan….
I was a fool for ever doubting Shogun. I should be ashamed for never giving him a chance to get healthy. Shogun made Machida look B-level-Just like my bet made me look b-level!
I come here for news, debates, and the occasional uncontrollable laughter as well. Some of the guys on here are pretty funny people. I’ve been caught quite frequently laughing away to myself looking bat-shit crazy.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
In the moment it's hard to tell
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by Onemansyn on May 9, 2010 7:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In the moment it's hard to tell what intentions were
All Cote knows is he was upside down, in mid air and slammed down on what cools have been his head if he hadn’t adjusted. I don’t think a spike was the intention and I don’t think it was illegal
A.B.M.!! - Somos Pocos Pero Locos!
by Onemansyn on May 9, 2010 7:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think as long as you dont have him inverted and slam him on his neck its ok.
Like the Kurt pellgrino slam in his last fight was brutal, and could have caused serious injury. The only reason it wasnt illegal was because Fabricio Camoes had his back and was in an advantageous position and could have let go at anytime. I think eventually someone is gonna become paralyzed from one of these piledriver slams. But it is hard to control how your opponent lands. But i didnt see anything wrong with the cote slam.
The ruling was that because Camoes could have used his hands to block the slam it wasn't an illegal move
The same would apply here.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on May 9, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was because he had control over his own body and was applying a sub. He could have just let go of the sub. Neither are true in this case.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
That’s what I meant about Camoes. He could have let go of the submission to block the slam but chose not to. I saw the fight and I thought Cote was parallel enough to the floor he could have used his feet or hands to stop the slam but it seemed like he just didn’t. I could be wrong though.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on May 10, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
What Happened Canada
Canada is Dry!!! Lol all Canada has is a GreaseS.P. USA. USA. USA. USA.
Thank you for your insightful comments and contributions to the thread
Fucking weekend posters.
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Who gives a shit!!!!! LO F-in L
kadongkadonk slam. lmfao.. Finally someone did the piledriver..
Belcher is a tool.
Him calling out Anderson Silva is a joke. Did you see his interview on UFC.com where he talks about hurrying up and winning the belt from Anderson then going up to 205 and cleaning out that division? Who does this loser think he is? lol That’s what Anderson is gonna do, finish Chael and Vitor then move up to 205 and should get a str8 shot at the champ then. Shogun vs the winner of Rampage/Rashad most likely.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won... but still avoids the UFC!
So
He’s a tool cause he has aspirations and confidence? And this “loser” sure does win a lot
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by Onemansyn on May 9, 2010 7:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He's on a good run
But he talks as if he’s a p4p great now. Rather than aspiring to be the best he thinks that he is the best and it’s really off-putting. I’d have more respect for him if he showed more humility.
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Congratulations Jake, Gil and Mo. From the only Maniac to pick all 3 of them.
by David W-S on May 9, 2010 8:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I can see if he had actually said all that, I might agree
But I believe what he said was essentially more along the lines of : “I come in, I do my job, I work hard and I beleive I’m up for a shot at the title.” I didn’t hear any talk of him being the absolute best or saying he would destroy Anderson. He’s a hell of a lot more than Sonnen and a hell of a lot more outspoken than Belfort.
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There is no controversy it was legal
The head of NJSA cleared this up the last time it happened…
"The definition of a pile driver is any throw where you control your opponent’s body (while) placing his feet straight up in the air with his head straight down and then forcibly drive your opponent’s head into the canvas or flooring material."
thx for quote
clearly Cote was almost parallel to the ground, so its the opposite of what this rule describes and there is no controversy
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Look in the picture, his head and more importantly back are not parallel to the ground. I’m not trying to be a dick, but the move he did was dangerous.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
And...
The picture about is about 3 feet befoer he hit the ground and dangerous… are you kidding me? What do you call a knee to the face? And armbar? A freakin’ CHOKE HOLD?!??!
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
I call them within the rules.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
actually
if someone would post a pic closer to the time of impact you will clearly see that his body, spine, legs, everything, is almost parallel to the canvas. Watch the move over if you can find it on youtube still. I have the whole event DVR’d. After watching it over, there is no argument what-so-ever that it was even close to being illegal. In fact, it was about 75-80 degrees off.
by Opposites Attack on May 9, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
There are some animated gifs around now and it’s clear that at the time of impact his spine was a 70 degree angle to the mat. If that doesn’t qualify as “spiking the head” under unified rules, then how much more perfect would it need to be? Besides that, the rules in Quebec do not use the “spiking the head” language. The rule states that any take down in which you cause the opponent to land head first is illegal.
that is just wrong.
I have the fight DVRd and have watchedc it over again. Many times to judge the tough angle at which his spine is at.
This is a belly flop, he landed on his face, not the top of the head channeling the force vertically down his spinal cord, which would be a pile driver….this was a belly flop. Clear as day when you watch the video, which you obviously have not.
by Opposites Attack on May 10, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem here is that you continue to talk about a pile driver, when the rules in Quebec say nothing of the sort. The rules in Quebec state that you may not cause an opponent to land head first as part of a take down. There is no mention of top of the head vs. front of the head vs. side of the head. The spiking/pile driver rule is part of the unified rules in the United States. Quebec has it’s own rules. Read the actual rule. I posted the link somewhere in this thread.
Clearly you haven’t looked at the video. He is no where near horizontal when he hits. Take a look at the gifs posted, you might be surprised. Either way, as prokstar pointed out, that’s not the rules in Quebec.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
you do realize having feet straight in air with head straight down only happens in the wwe or tits an ass what ever its called, i think you and the njsa need to have a conference call with the undertaker so he can explain that its an act, people dont naturaly stick their legs in the air when inverted
^Totally right^
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Look at the gif above. Cote was totally perpendicular to the mat at the time of impact. Definetly shady, if not illegal.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
you obviously didnt look at my comment above.
This pic DOES NOT SHOW THE IMPACT. find a picture closer to the point of impact, or watch the fight over like I did. I was lucky enough to DVR the event, so I have the luxury of watching this move over again.
Yes, in the picture above, his spine is perpendicular to the mat, but by the time Belcher had brought him down, his body, neck, legs, and spine, were all almost parallel to the mat….only about ten degrees off. what resulted was an impact to Cote’s face, not the top of the head channeling the force directly down his neck and spinal cord as a real pile drive would do, but more along the lines of a belly flop.
You are looking at the wrong picture. Find a better one and you will see that it is not even debateable that it was illegal, hence, why it was NEVER RULED ILLEGAL in the first place. Just look for yourself. enough said.
by Opposites Attack on May 10, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I watched again too, and paused it at the point of impact. His spine is at a 65-70 degree angle to the mat.
find the GIF and post it then.
That is blatantly incorrect.
by Opposites Attack on May 10, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
actually, I found the GIF you are talking about
And it does appear to show exactly what you are referring to. There is another angle that is more from teh side, and less of an oblique view, that shows him being somewhere between what both you and I are saying, but I can definitely understand why you feel the way you do because it does absolutely look much steeper there than it actually was.
by Opposites Attack on May 10, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Until someone gets paralyzed or dies...
I believe there is no place for this kind of move in MMA. It can cause serious damage.. and death to someone. If the rule book said it’s legal, then it’s legal..but it doesn’t make it right. It is such a dangerous move to do.. it can break someone’s neck.. paralyze or kill them.. I believe the rules should state pile driving someone on their head is illegal.. one day, hopefully before someone gets seriously hurt, bad. They will make it an illegal move.
We need you back posting more. Too many damn idiots,12-year-olds and trolls nowadays.
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Hey thanks bro...
I’m always checking out all the threads.. recently I have been trying to get in and drop a line or two.. more frequently. Every site will have a combination of many different types of people young and old.. dumb and smart.. I just pay attention to the ones that I logically agree or vibe with or debate against in a civil way.. Keeping doing your thing P-Dub.. real recognizes real.
Really?
So, why don’t they just ban all takedowns. Hell, Kimbo could’ve broke Mitrione’s back with one of those slams…………… I hope you’re entire post was nothing more than a big joke. If you were being serious, then you failed miserably
Bruce: No it’s not a joke. I state my opinion, if you agree or disagree your right.. that’s your opinion too. The execution of a pile drive is going to kill someone in a MMA fight one day or paralyze someone which is no a joking matter. There are plethora of techniques fighters can use to win a fight, that one should not be one of them.
Ok
Judges don’t have monitors to view the fight… HOW IN THE HELL can they call it if you can barely see it after 3 viewings?
They can’t do an instant replay.
It’s on the REF to catch it, stop it, and deduct a point.
Wicked WWE shit right there!
And kudos to The Talent. He had the guts to call out the Spider. Usually, you end up dead when you do that.
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lester i have to agree with u
once silva has his last 2 mw fights and moves up belchers right in the mix.maybe winner of maruadt/toquinho or sexyama rematch if he beats wandy.what do u think?
right here buddy
Lol don’t act like I’m hard to find. I said monday cause I try and avoid all the trolls and new guys, that post right after an event then crawl back to their parents basement.
Go to the Mittrione thread. I replied there to you as well. The newest one.
3 SF title fight decisions is somehow "embarrassing garbage", but 3 UFC title fight decisions isn't?
by daniel worby on May 9, 2010 12:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The weekend is so brutal here. Why do they come here after an event. I’m guessing they don’t go to their regular sites because they will be banned for half the shit they say. I usually try to avoid it here on fight-weekends, but I just had to see what people were going to say about the controversies.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
After those anti-English posts on the Daley thread I've given up on having a proper discussion on here after an event
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by David W-S on May 9, 2010 8:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that pile driver was legal to me what a great way to stun cote and finish him..
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by montanafrombama on May 9, 2010 10:24 AM EDT reply actions
Of course it was illegal...
Cote managed to protect himself somewhat and it was not a picture-perfect fake wrestling move, but Belcher was pretty obviously trying to drop him on his head.
This was no different, in principle, than what Nate Marquardt lost a point for in the Leites fight.
the piledriver is an illegal move no doubt
but imo belcher purposely flattened him out so he wouldnt drop on the top of his head.big props to alan hence 100% legality in the slam.
I don't think he did at all.
I’m not trying to be an ass, I just think Belcher intended to do it, and Cote was able to half protect himself. The move is dangerous, and if that wasn’t illegal it should be.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Looked legal to me...
…Cote landed horizontally on his face, it wasn’t a head spike where he would have landed on the base of his head. No significant pressure on his neck or spine as would be the case if Belcher were performing a piledriver. Sorry Patrick, what Belcher did wasn’t illegal. He just fought unorthodox and caught you.
I was OK with the pile driver....
….but the elbow off the top of the cage was beyond the pale.
otherwise
3 SF title fight decisions is somehow "embarrassing garbage", but 3 UFC title fight decisions isn't?
by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 8:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
About as illegal as turning right on red in the state of North Carolina.
They should have a “Bitch of the night award”. Toss up between Cote and Daley.
Too many damn rules!
Pile driver? Who cares. Kicking or kneeing a downed opponent to the head and puches to the back of the head stop and change way to many fights. It’s a fight for God’s sake. Do away with some of these tedious rules.
the sport of fighting is dangerous
If you don’t want to risk serious injury find a different career.
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
I usually agree with you BJPF, but I think in any sport you try to reduce needless risks wherever you can. I think this is one of those cases. I know I don’t want to see someone die or become paralyzed because of something like this.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
well i dont want to see that either
this is just an example- If a guy jumps on my back and is punching me in the face and trying to choke me i would be more than happy to drop him on his head. Does that make me the bad guy?
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
ok im now going to go watch the fight lol
I havnt seen it yet so maybe i shouldnt comment . ill be back
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
hahaha
I’ll talk to you about it after then.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
oh my that wasnt bad at all
I don’t see any debate on that throw
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
Look at the picture above. Cote’s head and back are perpendicular to the ground. He has no control over his body (unlike when a sub is locked in and someone is slamed). If it’s not illegal it should be. If Belcher had slipped or not had enough power to follow through on that, that could have ended Cote’s career or life. The rule of the feet over the head is unrealistic as most people wouldn’t allow their legs to do that ala WWE. It should be the head and back being perpendicular to the ground. It was a good win for Belcher, but that is a little risky to allow I think.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
well i just watched it and i didnt see the big deal. and i think we have enough rules already
I don’t understand how you would write this up in the rule books. Sorry MMeh we will just have to disagree on this one iguess. Maybe you should watch it again in real time speed and don’t look at the pic.
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
I did watch it in real time. We just have different opinions on the interpretation of the rules. That’s fine.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
It was a good fight though
and i get to make a GSP fan HAve a BJ pic for a week so that’s a good fight in my book :)
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
It was good. I give Belcher more credit than I used to (still don’t like the guy). Cote’s wrestling looked good, and his JJ has improved so that’s a positive. He was tagging Belcher with some good shots in the second. He lost the first, but I am going to use the double knee surgery excuse (the Rua if you will) and say that Cote will be back ;)
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
that is the reason that i bet money on this fight
Been out of the cage for along time and coming back from an injury usally doesnt go well that first fight back.
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
wtf? pennfan for real?
First off how did you miss that fight? You didn’t watch the event? Secondly how do you comment so much on something you haven’t seen? C’mon. You’re better then this… Aren’t you? God I lost a bet to this? Lol fml.
3 SF title fight decisions is somehow "embarrassing garbage", but 3 UFC title fight decisions isn't?
by daniel worby on May 9, 2010 12:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
worby shhh just put that pic up lol
ive seen most of the fights now.
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
And i don't understand why i can't comment on a story. As far as i know this move is legal.
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
lol ya but it'd sure be nice to see the situation
..more then a still frame pic! Ugh. And what pic? It goes up monday. Ill check the kimbo thread in case its there.
3 SF title fight decisions is somehow "embarrassing garbage", but 3 UFC title fight decisions isn't?
by daniel worby on May 9, 2010 1:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Check out my avatar Worbs. You might feel better.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
lol i dont even mind penn so its not a bad punishment
i had much worse in mind for him
3 SF title fight decisions is somehow "embarrassing garbage", but 3 UFC title fight decisions isn't?
by daniel worby on May 9, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
That clearly was not a pile driver!
Little disappointed with Cote, we have seen many other guys get dropped on their heads way worse than that. He was horizontal, pile drivers are verticle.
What’s the definition of one then? His head and back looked vertical to me, but he seemed to protect himself a bit and try to flatten out. I’m just curious of the definition in the rules, cause I thought is was any vertical motion leading to contact with the mat with the head or neck when the person being spiked is not in control of their body (ie not attempting a sub). By that definition this could be a piledriver.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
http://i42.tinypic.com/nqpyds.jpg
watch it in slow mo Cote would have landed on the top of his head but he managed to save himself
and that could have been even worse than a piledriver because not only did he slam him he also came down on top of him
Agreed JB. It is worse than I remember. He is perpendicular to the ground at the time of impact, and that would seem like an illegal move. He’s lucky his head didn’t snap back or he would be looking like a pezz dispenser right now. Dangerous move for sure.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Sickest thing I've seen in years.
Is Patrick Cote whining calling this an illegal move? err hmmm bitch. lol
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3 SF title fight decisions is somehow "embarrassing garbage", but 3 UFC title fight decisions isn't?
by daniel worby on May 9, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It was an illegal move:
“195.29. The following techniques used to initiate a take down of an opponent on the mat constitute fouls:
(1) making an opponent fall head first onto the mat;”
http://www2.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca/dynamicSearch/telecharge.php?type=2&file=//S_3_1/S3_1R11_A.htm
stop bitchin
predator got hunted this time. he lost an tapped out. Watever just deal with the lose and come back stronger next time
whatever even in the pic its totally illegal
its almost completely straight up and down. cotes not gonna straighten his legs top make it look like a wwe pile driver. lol he’s trying to offset with his body weight. his spine is pretty well as vertical as it gets.
3 SF title fight decisions is somehow "embarrassing garbage", but 3 UFC title fight decisions isn't?
piledriver slash headslam
anytime a fighter gets slammed on their head I cringe and know something traumatic is right around the corner but most of the time the guy just gets dazed and nothing majorly concerning happens. This time though I am glad it is being noticed because Patrick Cote was robbed from a fair mma contest. I dont have anything against Alan Belcher and dont want to see him be penalized if anything he should be thanked for inventing this move so we can have a better vision and takeon these moves straight from the wwe.
But thats scripted and still goes wrong this was not scripted even Belcher didnt plan the move nor want to possibly parralize cote. This move is dangerous as any head slam is the result will be a fighter getting a serious neck injury and maybe a serious head injury. That can paralyze anyone however I must add that athletes are in better shape than most and their flexibility is marveling sometimes so it doesnt always happen but that doesnt make it alright like breaking the law if you dont get caught it seems okay but really it is not !
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Following his submission loss to “The Talent,” Cote called the move “illegal.” Where do you stand on these types of offensive moves in a mixed martial arts bout?
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Shouldn’t have fucked with the man w/ the ugly tattoo.
Hadoken!!
by Brizzle T on May 8, 2010 11:59 PM PDT reply actions
.haha its so terrible was the guitar thing there before i cant remember its terrible looks like a pooly done prison tat
by groundfightingislovemaking on May 9, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
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It’s so bad it’s good. I like Alan. Hadoken!!
by Brizzle T on May 9, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions
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That’s what I say It’s so bad it’s awesome!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. – Kenny Powers
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Your profile pic is awesome, btw. Hadoken!!
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I agree 100% I’m liking Alan a lot. He’s on of my favorite up and coming fighters.
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I’m a sucker for Muay Thai and ugly shorts and tats I guess Hadoken!!
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Bout fuckin time. Hadoken!!
by Brizzle T on May 9, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
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Fuck Cote. Belcher was clearly slamming him horizontally and was not trying to ram his head into the canvas.
Lesnar > [Carwin] —> Lesnar > [Velasquez] -→ Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
by freenow82 on May 9, 2010 12:00 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
.i like cote and im glad to see him back in the cage after a terrible injury…but him saying the move was illegal was just him trying to justify a loss
by magicmike on May 9, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
. Doesn’t matter what he intended to do, he slamed his head into the canvas. I think it was illegal. I felt bad for Cote after the nut shot, and then the pile-driver.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
.Sorry Dude You are exactly right when you say he slammed his head into the canvas, which is different than spiking him on his head into the canvas. The one you mentioned, the one he did, totally legal. Let’s not forget, it would have been easier to pick up 1/2 of Cote and dump him on his head, Belcher put in A LOT of extra effort to make sure he went horizontal.
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
by JasonFahQ on May 9, 2010 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
. Cote went face-first, which is totally legal. Spiking him on top of his head, which Belcher didn’t do, is illegal.
I’m a pan-handlin’, man-handlin’, post-holin’, high-rollin’, dust-bowlin’ daddy
by P-Dub on May 9, 2010 6:11 AM PDT up reply actions
.Yeah, I don’t think it’s any different than slamming someone while they have you in a triangle. Your head’s gonna hit the canvas, but it’s not the intent, only a result. by DJ(MMA) on May 9, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
. Now that I think about it, that was a lot closer to a Triple-H Pedigree than a piledriver.
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by P-Dub on May 9, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
.http://i42.tinypic.com/nqpyds.jpg
the only reason he didnt land on the top of his head is because Cote looked down and tried to avoid possible paralysis.
by Jimbobb on May 9, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
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Wow That was actually worse than I remember. That was totally up and down and vertical. Nice find JB.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
.I think it was legal but it was pretty close and pretty dangerous either way
by Jimbobb on May 9, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
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It’s close He pushed his head down and then dropped him on it… SO…. I don’t see the problem with it but it was a close call.
by iagoof22 on May 9, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
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In the moment it’s hard to tell A.B.M.!! – Somos Pocos Pero Locos!
by Onemansyn on May 9, 2010 4:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
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In the moment it’s hard to tell what intentions were All Cote knows is he was upside down, in mid air and slammed down on what cools have been his head if he hadn’t adjusted. I don’t think a spike was the intention and I don’t think it was illegal
A.B.M.!! – Somos Pocos Pero Locos!
by Onemansyn on May 9, 2010 4:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
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I think as long as you dont have him inverted and slam him on his neck its ok. Like the Kurt pellgrino slam in his last fight was brutal, and could have caused serious injury. The only reason it wasnt illegal was because Fabricio Camoes had his back and was in an advantageous position and could have let go at anytime. I think eventually someone is gonna become paralyzed from one of these piledriver slams. But it is hard to control how your opponent lands. But i didnt see anything wrong with the cote slam.
by Ponch-Hoe on May 9, 2010 12:04 AM PDT reply actions
.The ruling was that because Camoes could have used his hands to block the slam it wasn’t an illegal move The same would apply here.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on May 9, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
. I thought it was because he had control over his own body and was applying a sub. He could have just let go of the sub. Neither are true in this case.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
.What Happened Canada Canada is Dry!!! Lol all Canada has is a GreaseS.P. USA. USA. USA. USA.
by TheG on May 9, 2010 12:09 AM PDT reply actions
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Personally I think……… blah,,,,,blah….blah……Who gives a shit!!!!!! lol…
by djgalvin on May 9, 2010 12:10 AM PDT reply actions
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Thank you for your insightful comments and contributions to the thread Fucking weekend posters.
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by P-Dub on May 9, 2010 6:11 AM PDT up reply actions
.Who gives a shit!!!!! LO F-in L kadongkadonk slam. lmfao.. Finally someone did the piledriver..
by TheG on May 9, 2010 12:14 AM PDT reply actions
.Belcher is a tool. Him calling out Anderson Silva is a joke. Did you see his interview on UFC.com where he talks about hurrying up and winning the belt from Anderson then going up to 205 and cleaning out that division? Who does this loser think he is? lol That’s what Anderson is gonna do, finish Chael and Vitor then move up to 205 and should get a str8 shot at the champ then. Shogun vs the winner of Rampage/Rashad most likely.
Fedor played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won… but still avoids the UFC!
by Oswald on May 9, 2010 12:16 AM PDT reply actions
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So He’s a tool cause he has aspirations and confidence? And this "loser" sure does win a lot
A.B.M.!! – Somos Pocos Pero Locos!
by Onemansyn on May 9, 2010 4:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
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He’s on a good run But he talks as if he’s a p4p great now. Rather than aspiring to be the best he thinks that he is the best and it’s really off-putting. I’d have more respect for him if he showed more humility.
Proud member of the Brock Pain Train.
Congratulations Jake, Gil and Mo. From the only Maniac to pick all 3 of them.
by David W-S on May 9, 2010 5:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
.There is no controversy it was legal The head of NJSA cleared this up the last time it happened…
“The definition of a pile driver is any throw where you control your opponent’s body (while) placing his feet straight up in the air with his head straight down and then forcibly drive your opponent’s head into the canvas or flooring material.”
by Hatertorade on May 9, 2010 12:17 AM PDT reply actions
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thx for quote clearly Cote was almost parallel to the ground, so its the opposite of what this rule describes and there is no controversy
Lesnar > [Carwin] —> Lesnar > [Velasquez] -→ Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
by freenow82 on May 9, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
. Look in the picture, his head and more importantly back are not parallel to the ground. I’m not trying to be a dick, but the move he did was dangerous.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
.And… The picture about is about 3 feet befoer he hit the ground and dangerous… are you kidding me? What do you call a knee to the face? And armbar? A freakin’ CHOKE HOLD?!??!
Give a man to fish and feed him for a day. Kick his stupid ass and maybe he will leave you alone.
by JasonFahQ on May 9, 2010 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions
. I call them within the rules.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions
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yep Lesnar > [Carwin] —> Lesnar > [Velasquez] -→ Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
by freenow82 on May 9, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
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actually if someone would post a pic closer to the time of impact you will clearly see that his body, spine, legs, everything, is almost parallel to the canvas. Watch the move over if you can find it on youtube still. I have the whole event DVR’d. After watching it over, there is no argument what-so-ever that it was even close to being illegal. In fact, it was about 75-80 degrees off.
by Opposites Attack on May 9, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
.There are some animated gifs around now and it’s clear that at the time of impact his spine was a 70 degree angle to the mat. If that doesn’t qualify as "spiking the head" under unified rules, then how much more perfect would it need to be? Besides that, the rules in Quebec do not use the "spiking the head" language. The rule states that any take down in which you cause the opponent to land head first is illegal.
by prokstar on May 9, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
.you do realize having feet straight in air with head straight down only happens in the wwe or tits an ass what ever its called, i think you and the njsa need to have a conference call with the undertaker so he can explain that its an act, people dont naturaly stick their legs in the air when inverted
by DanThaMan on May 9, 2010 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions
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Totally right Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions
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refer to my comment directly above. by Opposites Attack on May 9, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
. Look at the gif above. Cote was totally perpendicular to the mat at the time of impact. Definetly shady, if not illegal.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
.Cote got man handled. Beltcher took his manhood on this picture.. LMFAO
by TheG on May 9, 2010 12:29 AM PDT reply actions
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Until someone gets paralyzed or dies… I believe there is no place for this kind of move in MMA. It can cause serious damage.. and death to someone. If the rule book said it’s legal, then it’s legal..but it doesn’t make it right. It is such a dangerous move to do.. it can break someone’s neck.. paralyze or kill them.. I believe the rules should state pile driving someone on their head is illegal.. one day, hopefully before someone gets seriously hurt, bad. They will make it an illegal move.
by PhilQNY on May 9, 2010 12:30 AM PDT reply actions
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Hey, what’s up Phil I’m a pan-handlin’, man-handlin’, post-holin’, high-rollin’, dust-bowlin’ daddy
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It’s all good P-Dub! by PhilQNY on May 9, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
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We need you back posting more. Too many damn idiots,12-year-olds and trolls nowadays. I’m a pan-handlin’, man-handlin’, post-holin’, high-rollin’, dust-bowlin’ daddy
by P-Dub on May 9, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
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Hey thanks bro… I’m always checking out all the threads.. recently I have been trying to get in and drop a line or two.. more frequently. Every site will have a combination of many different types of people young and old.. dumb and smart.. I just pay attention to the ones that I logically agree or vibe with or debate against in a civil way.. Keeping doing your thing P-Dub.. real recognizes real.
by PhilQNY on May 9, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
.Really? So, why don’t they just ban all takedowns. Hell, Kimbo could’ve broke Mitrione’s back with one of those slams…………… I hope you’re entire post was nothing more than a big joke. If you were being serious, then you failed miserably
by Bruce Kilby on May 9, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
. It’s called reducing risk.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
. Bruce: No it’s not a joke. I state my opinion, if you agree or disagree your right.. that’s your opinion too. The execution of a pile drive is going to kill someone in a MMA fight one day or paralyze someone which is no a joking matter. There are plethora of techniques fighters can use to win a fight, that one should not be one of them.
by PhilQNY on May 9, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
. Agreed Phil. Did you take a look at the gif posted above and below. Nasty stuff for sure, and actually a lot worse than it looked in real time.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
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Crazy stuff man. by PhilQNY on May 9, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
.MMA is still evolving Take like a man buddy. The move is legal and Cote Lost fair and square. It was an opportunity that was given to Belcher and He took it and won the fight.
by TheG on May 9, 2010 12:36 AM PDT reply actions
.Ok Judges don’t have monitors to view the fight… HOW IN THE HELL can they call it if you can barely see it after 3 viewings?
They can’t do an instant replay.
It’s on the REF to catch it, stop it, and deduct a point.
by Ave Imperator on May 9, 2010 1:17 AM PDT reply actions
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Wicked WWE shit right there! And kudos to The Talent. He had the guts to call out the Spider. Usually, you end up dead when you do that.
If you don’t know for sure it’s a dude, it’s not gay.
-P-Dub
by The Negation on May 9, 2010 1:54 AM PDT reply actions
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What did I tell you guys? About Belcher? All MONTH long…
He will fight for the belt soon.
by Lester The Pimp on May 9, 2010 4:05 AM PDT reply actions
.lester i have to agree with u once silva has his last 2 mw fights and moves up belchers right in the mix.maybe winner of maruadt/toquinho or sexyama rematch if he beats wandy.what do u think?
by scott1 on May 9, 2010 4:07 AM PDT up reply actions
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I dont like elbows, I think they cuase cuts and there a bitch way to win, id rather have pile driveer and downed knees by cushing on May 9, 2010 4:52 AM PDT reply actions
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Worby where you at???? Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by BJPennfan on May 9, 2010 6:27 AM PDT reply actions
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right here buddy Lol don’t act like I’m hard to find. I said monday cause I try and avoid all the trolls and new guys, that post right after an event then crawl back to their parents basement.
Go to the Mittrione thread. I replied there to you as well. The newest one.
3 SF title fight decisions is somehow “embarrassing garbage”, but 3 UFC title fight decisions isn’t?
by daniel worby on May 9, 2010 9:14 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
. The weekend is so brutal here. Why do they come here after an event. I’m guessing they don’t go to their regular sites because they will be banned for half the shit they say. I usually try to avoid it here on fight-weekends, but I just had to see what people were going to say about the controversies.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
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After those anti-English posts on the Daley thread I’ve given up on having a proper discussion on here after an event Jay, your pic and sig will be set on Monday. Hope you, mac, ojr and bz had a good time.
Proud member of the Brock Pain Train.
Congratulations Jake, Gil and Mo. From the only Maniac to pick all 3 of them.
by David W-S on May 9, 2010 5:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
. Those guys were brutal on the other thread. The end of the weekend is here, so it should get back to normal (whatever that is).
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
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that pile driver was legal to me what a great way to stun cote and finish him.. “Shumminina Shoulda Bought A Honda!” KATT WILLIAMS
by montanafrombama on May 9, 2010 7:24 AM PDT reply actions
.Of course it was illegal… Cote managed to protect himself somewhat and it was not a picture-perfect fake wrestling move, but Belcher was pretty obviously trying to drop him on his head.
This was no different, in principle, than what Nate Marquardt lost a point for in the Leites fight.
by MattNY on May 9, 2010 7:29 AM PDT reply actions
.the piledriver is an illegal move no doubt but imo belcher purposely flattened him out so he wouldnt drop on the top of his head.big props to alan hence 100% legality in the slam.
by scott1 on May 9, 2010 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions
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I don’t think he did at all. I’m not trying to be an ass, I just think Belcher intended to do it, and Cote was able to half protect himself. The move is dangerous, and if that wasn’t illegal it should be.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
. Maybe a rule change is in order, but as the rules are now, that wasperfectly legal. And pretty badass in myopinion too. Takes a lot of stength to lift a guy up like that and get him parallel.
I’m a pan-handlin’, man-handlin’, post-holin’, high-rollin’, dust-bowlin’ daddy
by P-Dub on May 9, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
.Looked legal to me… …Cote landed horizontally on his face, it wasn’t a head spike where he would have landed on the base of his head. No significant pressure on his neck or spine as would be the case if Belcher were performing a piledriver. Sorry Patrick, what Belcher did wasn’t illegal. He just fought unorthodox and caught you.
by Hardcase on May 9, 2010 7:48 AM PDT reply actions
.I was OK with the pile driver…. ….but the elbow off the top of the cage was beyond the pale.
by TheIlluminati on May 9, 2010 7:50 AM PDT reply actions
.Totally legal whoever says otherwise is dumb
by shamo84 on May 9, 2010 7:52 AM PDT reply actions
.Sore loser Ingenious thinking. There Belcher is up against the fence defending the double leg, protecting himself from getting slammed, when…KABLAMMIE! He turns his defense into his offense and wins the fight. Thats MMA for you. Did Cote think he was in a Canadian boxing match? A north of the border game of tummy sticks? WTF u crying foul for. If Belcher didnt pull off that choke he would’ve kicked 8 of Cote’s ribs into the crowd.
You can’t rape the willing- Ghandi
by kenny schlong on May 9, 2010 8:25 AM PDT reply actions
.What happened to Canada yesterday? The queens gonna be pissed
You can’t rape the willing- Ghandi
by kenny schlong on May 9, 2010 8:26 AM PDT reply actions
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lol Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by BJPennfan on May 9, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
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why would we be pissed Americans are ignorant. They think I wanna see Canadians on a Canadian card? We don’t fucking care and I can speak for all of us when I say that. We want talent. Canada is 1/25th the population of USA? Or less? How could/should we be expected to breed as many stars as the US? In fact for as many ppl as you guys have why is it Brazil dominates our sport? We got GSP and that’s enough said.
Now put real fights on our card, don’t cater to us cause we’re Canadian. We want equality in the sport. Not to be pampered to what you (Dana) think we wanna see.
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by daniel worby on May 9, 2010 9:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
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C’mon Worby Don’t play into this Canada Vs. USA shit. These anti Canada people are idiots but they do not represent all of us Americans.
The Pain Train’s in full steam ! ABM’s look out.
by PSYQO78 on May 9, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
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USA>Canada :p I’m not afraid of dying, I’m a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 9, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
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More like USA >>>> Canada :) I’m a pan-handlin’, man-handlin’, post-holin’, high-rollin’, dust-bowlin’ daddy
by P-Dub on May 9, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
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exactly speakin of canada, any word from Mac or Jay and the event crew on how it was?
Loyality before Reality
by brendog on May 9, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
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i havent heard from them yet and i clearly dont aim anything like that against you guys. but i hate that we get all these canadian fighters on our cards. we only want gsp.
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by daniel worby on May 9, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
.About as illegal as turning right on red in the state of North Carolina. They should have a "Bitch of the night award". Toss up between Cote and Daley.
by butsecks on May 9, 2010 8:31 AM PDT reply actions
.Too many damn rules! Pile driver? Who cares. Kicking or kneeing a downed opponent to the head and puches to the back of the head stop and change way to many fights. It’s a fight for God’s sake. Do away with some of these tedious rules.
by Josh H. on May 9, 2010 8:39 AM PDT reply actions
. It’s not a fight, it’s a sport. Go to your local bar if you want to see a fight.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
.A Pile Driver can cause much more serious problems than a knee to the head of a down opponent.
by Jimbobb on May 9, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
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Daley and Kos are both bitches They should get pay cuts for "bitch fight of the night"
by Guida on May 9, 2010 8:39 AM PDT reply actions
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Off Topic but I agree Confucius says:
“Baseball is wrong; man with four balls cannot walk.”
by RiverHorror on May 9, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
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Whoops! I put that comment in the wrong thread! To many tabs open…sorry bout that.
by Guida on May 9, 2010 8:44 AM PDT reply actions
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the sport of fighting is dangerous If you don’t want to risk serious injury find a different career.
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by BJPennfan on May 9, 2010 8:51 AM PDT reply actions
. I usually agree with you BJPF, but I think in any sport you try to reduce needless risks wherever you can. I think this is one of those cases. I know I don’t want to see someone die or become paralyzed because of something like this.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
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well i dont want to see that either this is just an example- If a guy jumps on my back and is punching me in the face and trying to choke me i would be more than happy to drop him on his head. Does that make me the bad guy?
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by BJPennfan on May 9, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
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ok im now going to go watch the fight lol I havnt seen it yet so maybe i shouldnt comment . ill be back
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by BJPennfan on May 9, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
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hahaha I’ll talk to you about it after then.
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by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
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oh my that wasnt bad at all I don’t see any debate on that throw
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by BJPennfan on May 9, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
. Look at the picture above. Cote’s head and back are perpendicular to the ground. He has no control over his body (unlike when a sub is locked in and someone is slamed). If it’s not illegal it should be. If Belcher had slipped or not had enough power to follow through on that, that could have ended Cote’s career or life. The rule of the feet over the head is unrealistic as most people wouldn’t allow their legs to do that ala WWE. It should be the head and back being perpendicular to the ground. It was a good win for Belcher, but that is a little risky to allow I think.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
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well i just watched it and i didnt see the big deal. and i think we have enough rules already I don’t understand how you would write this up in the rule books. Sorry MMeh we will just have to disagree on this one iguess. Maybe you should watch it again in real time speed and don’t look at the pic.
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by BJPennfan on May 9, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
. I did watch it in real time. We just have different opinions on the interpretation of the rules. That’s fine.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
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It was a good fight though and i get to make a GSP fan HAve a BJ pic for a week so that’s a good fight in my book :)
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by BJPennfan on May 9, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
. It was good. I give Belcher more credit than I used to (still don’t like the guy). Cote’s wrestling looked good, and his JJ has improved so that’s a positive. He was tagging Belcher with some good shots in the second. He lost the first, but I am going to use the double knee surgery excuse (the Rua if you will) and say that Cote will be back ;)
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
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that is the reason that i bet money on this fight Been out of the cage for along time and coming back from an injury usally doesnt go well that first fight back.
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by BJPennfan on May 9, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
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wtf? pennfan for real? First off how did you miss that fight? You didn’t watch the event? Secondly how do you comment so much on something you haven’t seen? C’mon. You’re better then this… Aren’t you? God I lost a bet to this? Lol fml.
3 SF title fight decisions is somehow “embarrassing garbage”, but 3 UFC title fight decisions isn’t?
by daniel worby on May 9, 2010 9:44 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
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worby shhh just put that pic up lol ive seen most of the fights now.
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by BJPennfan on May 9, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
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And i don’t understand why i can’t comment on a story. As far as i know this move is legal. Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by BJPennfan on May 9, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
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lol ya but it’d sure be nice to see the situation ..more then a still frame pic! Ugh. And what pic? It goes up monday. Ill check the kimbo thread in case its there.
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by daniel worby on May 9, 2010 10:03 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
. Check out my avatar Worbs. You might feel better.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
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lol i dont even mind penn so its not a bad punishment i had much worse in mind for him
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by daniel worby on May 9, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
. I don’t mind Penn either, but I like opening the gates every now and then. Perfectly timed picture though.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
.True I agree totally, I just wish it didn’t look so BAD ASS!
by Tuff.Gong on May 9, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
.no need to watch it This is America. We always have something to say when we dont know what the fuck we’re talking about.
You can’t rape the willing- Ghandi
by kenny schlong on May 9, 2010 9:07 AM PDT reply actions
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well i do know know what a piledriver is Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by BJPennfan on May 9, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
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ya kenny duh! he watches wwe! 3 SF title fight decisions is somehow “embarrassing garbage”, but 3 UFC title fight decisions isn’t?
by daniel worby on May 9, 2010 10:05 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
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no i use to watch wwf Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by BJPennfan on May 9, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
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dont be all sore cause you lost i think the only ones that are in this debate with me are from Canada. hhhmmmm………
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by BJPennfan on May 9, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
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Boy its going to get crazy in here durning next season of TUF Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by BJPennfan on May 9, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
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I’ll be siding with the Canuks in that one Come on GSP. Beat the shit out of that blonde injury faking bitch.
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by David W-S on May 9, 2010 5:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
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i was only jk. i"d have said that regardless of who said it. 3 SF title fight decisions is somehow “embarrassing garbage”, but 3 UFC title fight decisions isn’t?
by daniel worby on May 9, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
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That clearly was not a pile driver! Little disappointed with Cote, we have seen many other guys get dropped on their heads way worse than that. He was horizontal, pile drivers are verticle.
by HEELHOOK on May 9, 2010 11:25 AM PDT reply actions
. What’s the definition of one then? His head and back looked vertical to me, but he seemed to protect himself a bit and try to flatten out. I’m just curious of the definition in the rules, cause I thought is was any vertical motion leading to contact with the mat with the head or neck when the person being spiked is not in control of their body (ie not attempting a sub). By that definition this could be a piledriver.
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by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
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If anything it was a Pedigree!!! by HEELHOOK on May 9, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
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watch it in slow mo Cote would have landed on the top of his head but he managed to save himself
by Jimbobb on May 9, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
.and that could have been even worse than a piledriver because not only did he slam him he also came down on top of him
by Jimbobb on May 9, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
. Agreed JB. It is worse than I remember. He is perpendicular to the ground at the time of impact, and that would seem like an illegal move. He’s lucky his head didn’t snap back or he would be looking like a pezz dispenser right now. Dangerous move for sure.
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by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
.I dont know if it was intentional or not but it even looks like Belcher launched himself too
by Jimbobb on May 9, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
. His feet do look like they come off the mat. Oh well, it’s done now, hopefully they clarify the rules before someone gets seriously hurt or killed.
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by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
.The only way this could have been more of a pile driver is if they were working together to make it look better (a la WWE). He was pretty vertical at the time of impact.
by prokstar on May 9, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
.Sickest thing I’ve seen in years. Is Patrick Cote whining calling this an illegal move? err hmmm bitch. lol
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3 SF title fight decisions is somehow “embarrassing garbage”, but 3 UFC title fight decisions isn’t?
by daniel worby on May 9, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
.It was an illegal move:
"195.29. The following techniques used to initiate a take down of an opponent on the mat constitute fouls:
(1) making an opponent fall head first onto the mat;"
http://www2.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca/dynamicSearch/telecharge.php?type=2&file=//S_3_1/S3_1R11_A.htm
by prokstar on May 9, 2010 7:44 PM PDT reply actions
.stop bitchin predator got hunted this time. he lost an tapped out. Watever just deal with the lose and come back stronger next time
by nawwolfe on May 9, 2010 8:25 PM PDT reply actions
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whatever even in the pic its totally illegal its almost completely straight up and down. cotes not gonna straighten his legs top make it look like a wwe pile driver. lol he’s trying to offset with his body weight. his spine is pretty well as vertical as it gets.
3 SF title fight decisions is somehow “embarrassing garbage”, but 3 UFC title fight decisions isn’t?
by daniel worby on May 9, 2010 8:53 PM PDT reply actions
. He’s definetly lucky to be walking today. What’s done is done, hopefully they instruct people on how to apply the rules better for future fights.
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by MM_Eh on May 9, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
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piledriver slash headslam
by Mitchell Harrington on May 10, 2010 3:34 AM EDT reply actions
and the idiot of the year award goes to....
3 SF title fight decisions is somehow "embarrassing garbage", but 3 UFC title fight decisions isn't?
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