UFC 114: John Hathaway wants to beat up Diego Sanchez on May 29
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Quoteworthy:
"This is easily my biggest fight and my biggest test. Diego’s come along leaps and bounds with his stand-up, and I still think his hustle and his Jiu-Jitsu are his strongest suits. He’s going to come and try to go frantic on me early, and he’ll probably try and take me down. But I just see myself beating him up standing then eventually getting my takedown and staying on top and trying to pound him out. I’ve watched most of Diego’s fights anyway because he’s always on the main card of the UFC shows. I watch most of them when they’re live, but I’ve gone back and studied quite a few of his tapes. There’s no pain in watching, so it’s not bad."
Undefeated welterweight phenom John Hathaway (12-0) looks to keep his perfect record intact when he battles former TUF guy Diego Sanchez (21-3) on the main card of UFC 114 this Saturday (May 29) in Las Vegas. "The Hitman" has already taken out three of his foes under the UFC banner -- but can he adapt to the "Nightmare" pace that Sanchez sets from bell-to-bell? Or will Diego regret not staying at 155? Early predictions please...
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i hope hathaway busts up sanchez like penn did.
sanchez just has too many eccentricities for me.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions
i'm going to add a quote from "training day" soon. many good quotes from that movie.
how about " breathe dawg, breathe! who shot roger? new guy did it. you will get a medal for this son". that is close. might use another.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i just added the perfect quote to my signature from training day..
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995. My name is puzzy, puzzy galore. I must be in heaven. "Goldfinger" The man with the midas touch. To protect the sheep you gotta catch the wolf, and it takes a wolf to catch a wolf. "Training Day".
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 26, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
you should use
You wanna go to jail, or you wanna go home?
by Chuntsman949 on May 25, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
how about "you shot me in the ass" mofo.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 26, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Has anybdoy else notice how the UFC is not realy promoting Dirty like they used to before the Penn fight?
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
A lot was expected of him at 155
and I think the fight with BJ was a big disappointment. He offered no effective offence whatsoever in what was supposed to be a competitive fight, and I think the UFC realized then and there that he will never hold a title at either weight class. He seems to have a decent fan base though so I’m surprised that they wouldn’t still promote him pretty heavily.
"Before I do anything I ask myself, "Would an idiot do that?" And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing." - Dwight Schrute
I like John's chances in this one
His takedowns are effective and his ground and pound is vicious. Diego has struggled with good wrestlers in the past and if John can take him down then I like his chances in this one, especially as Diego is coming off the most humiliating loss of his career and has gone from a title contender at 155 to a young prospect with talent but no name value. This is a dangerous fight for Diego, though it all depends on how motivated he is and whether or not John can handle the pressure of such a high profile fight.
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
Unmotivated Diego is an oxymoron.
Plus he lost to Kos but had staff and the Fitch fight could have gone either way. He will be ready and should feel better at 170.
Ha ha
What? Butlers and cooks?
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on May 25, 2010 3:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think sanchez's heart and spirit were broken during penn fight? if hathaway is more than
+225 i will take him.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
No way. If his heart/will were broken then he would have found a way out of the fight. It took a cut the size of a small animal to stop that fight. Hathaway will have to RNC Diego to stop him.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
alot can happen between the actual fight and the next one.
are tony robbins tapes really going to help sanchez.? maybe urine therapy.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i havnt seen odds on this or bisping.
I get my ass kicked for money, all you gotta do is talk motherfucker.... Rampage Pride GP03
by DrewMoney$$$ on May 25, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Diego has only lost to Penn, Fitch and Kos - all via decision - not even close to a KO or a sub. Hathaway will have to pour everything plus the kitchen sink to be able to beat Diego.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Technically BJ finished him, but I'm in total agreement. Diego is as tough as they come. I will def be picking him in the pool.
have we picked for this event already? im so lost on the pool right now?
I get my ass kicked for money, all you gotta do is talk motherfucker.... Rampage Pride GP03
by DrewMoney$$$ on May 25, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
nevermind i just checked and found mine...
I get my ass kicked for money, all you gotta do is talk motherfucker.... Rampage Pride GP03
by DrewMoney$$$ on May 25, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Penn KO'd him
I’m just not convinced that he’s taking this fight for the right reasons. If John can take him down and keep him down then he could very well grind out a win.
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
Diego has one of the most active guards in the world, just ask Guida.
When was the last time you saw someone win a fight when they spent a lot of the fight on their back without getting a sub?
guida is real small. hathaway is 6 feet 2 inches.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
meaning a guy he is very lean and is on top of you could land some nasty elbows to reopen that cut ......
on sanchez’s head. hatahway is an up and comer while sanchez is declining. he had his title shot and that is why the ufc is not promoting him. the ufc does not believe in sanchez anymore.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Diego is declining as much as not evolving..
He loses to big wrestlers at 170 and BJ Penn at 155. No shame in either of these. He is a classic overachiever that his speed and work ethic make him dangerous at 170, but these traits don’t translate well to 155 where everyone is fast and everyone (top 10) has a big motor.
Hathaway will not stop him, but will win a decision. He has better stand-up and is as good a wrestler, if not better. Plus he wins the length battle.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
There Is No Way I Think
Hathaway has “better” striking then diego. And I dont think Diego is going to allow him to shoot. Diego is going to push the action and try to get on top. And also in no way do I think Hathaway has “better” wrestling then Deigo either.
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree to disagree.
Diego is not a striker. BJ easily picked him apart. Not saying Hathaway is BJ, but he has tremendous length and good footwork as shown in the Taylor fight, when it was standing.
Diego is a small wrestler (for 170) with good GnP and a big motor, but little else. If he gets Hathaway down, Hathaway’s length should be a concern.
Diego probably is the better wrestler. Apologies for the generalities (better), but as big a fan as you are of Diego, I am the opposite.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Thats Fair.
BJs striking is at an elite level. Hathaways is not. Diegos is very active and accurate. And he uses lots of strikes and lots of angles. And he has more power at WW. I think your right about Diego having a tough time with wrestlers but at an elite level. (KOS, Fitch) Hathaway is far from that level.
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, but Hathaway's length is greater than either Kos or Fitch.
Not by much, but I am a big Hathaway fan and am anxious to see him against upper-tier fighters.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Its Definately The Second Most Intriguing Fight For Me This Weekend
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The first?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Duh! Really? I think that fight goes 1 of 2 ways. A Page KO or a Shad decision. No mystery there unless you have other theories.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Im Concerned Solely On Rampages Shelf Time
IF he is as motivated as he says he is and as people have said he is then Rashad is going to lose. Wrestling Advantage Page. Striking advantage Page. I think this may get ugly for Rashad.
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
that is the problem with sanchez. his gameplan is always the same.
that is why penn destroyed him and hathaway and his training crew know this too. if you already know the gameplan you can devise your own gameplan that will be better than his. if you have the skills to pull it off. i think hathaway has the skillset.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
What if *gasp*...Diego actually learned from his loss to Diego and actually evolved?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
*LOL loss to BJ...although it would be funny to see Diego fight himself
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
guys who evolve usually don't come out to chants of YEAH, YEAH......
when they come out to the octagon. his eccentricities are too much. he needs a new gameplan and new word to chant.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting. So Diego is annoying to you, so therefore, he has not evolved since his loss to BJ. ...So, you got the numbers to the next lottery?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
His Entrance Has ZERO
reflection on what he does in the cage. I myself do very similar antics and always have in the locker room before fights.
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting
Now if I ever see another fighter yelling “yes” and doing the yes cartwheel then I’ll know that it’s you.
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
Do you puke?
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
I don't even want to know the answer to that, too much information Ulf
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
I always puked before big games.
It let me know I was there. Wierd, I know, but it calmed me down. Part of the ritual.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
it's more than that. it's his meditation in the octagon
his listening to tony robbins tapes if he still does. to me he is a nutcase. also his staredown is fake. maybe you should look up the word evolve. we evolved from the caveman. diego is a dinosaur. btw, do you have a winning record.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
And to touch on Diegos antics. Diego is a nut case we all know that. Sleeps with oxygen. Disappears in the mountains for days/weeks to meditate and do yoga. He is at peace with his body and mind more then most of us can ever dream of being.
He is ultra focused. Dedicated and outright radiant. His staredowns are just as real as the next guys. Most staredowns are fake. Why not touch on BJ licking his lips coming into the octagon. That isnt a natural thing to do. What about when BJ droops his hand at staredowns? That isnt a real staredown either.
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think nutcase is a bit extreme. Weird? yes. Dances to the beat of his own drum? Definately. A nutcase is a guy who uses a tinfoil hat and thinks he can communicate with rocks. That ain't Diego.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
That Actually May be Diego LOL.
Let me tell you guys something… nothing amps more then screaming your own praise or yelling encouragements to yourself prior to fights
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey when my rock communicating headware device works you won't be laughing anymore
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
michael jackson slept with oxygen.
does diego use the chamber too? you sound like you train with him. do you? i actually like when penn lick his gloves after a win. it’s like saying i beat your azz. so take that.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant BJ Pre fights
because I enjoy his licking of blood as well. But I dont have problems with it im just saying Diego isnt the only guy.
And no I dont. However, now that he is spending time in New Mexico again I would absolutely love too.
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i respect diego's skills but he just
comes across to me as someone i could not deal with. penn you could just hang around with. that is my impression of him. that is enough about this subject. i got other college football replies.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I like it as well, though it is disturbing when his gloves are bloody
Shows how much of a crazy bastard he is.
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
Diego fights himself every day.
Weird Zen Shit!
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
I Think This Is Off
Why Hasnt Anyone Else Stopped Deigos Plan Then?
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
We have a winner!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
i admit diego has skills but when he faces someone with similar skills
he losses. i’ll venture to say in his next 6 fights if he has that many he will go 3-3.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He Is Under 30 he will fight more then 6 times in his career
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i was talking ufc fights.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He Will Always Be Under UFC Contract
Unless he does some dumb stuff. He wont lose 3 fights in a row. and He wont compete in lack luster fights.
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
it does not say lose three in a row. it says he will go 3 wins.....
and 3 losses. i could easily see diego do something dumb like daley did. not the same thing daley did but soemthing that would make dana say i have had enough of this guy. adios amigo. goodbye ufc, hello strikeforce.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Diego Is Respectful.
He wont ever do anything like Daley. The only way the UFC cuts Diego is if he loses 3 or just absolutely doesnt show up for his fights
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Diego doesn't have many submissions off his back
He used some vicious elbows but Guida’s stationary position on top with his head on Diego’s chest and non-existent ground and pound made it easier for Diego to strike from his back, Hathaway is a much more active guy on top than Guida so unless Diego has worked on his BJJ from his back he won’t be able to win rounds by striking off his back again.
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
I Disagree
Diegos Bottom Game is Not More Then Average. I expect alot more from him considering his credentials and who he has trained with. Diegos top game is great.
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
ANS - what do you make of all of this pyschological, broken man, broken spirit analysis? Do you feel like printing out and wiping your ass with those posts, too? Just saying...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
No because It Exists
A loss can be deflating. It can be traumatic. It can be embarrassing. It can stay in a guys mind for a long time. It can hurt him in the next fight because he may not be a hundred percent mentally stable.
BUT on the other hand.
It can an awakening. It can light a fire. It can bring out the best in people. It can force someone to change themselves. It can provide a boost. If your mentally strong you can use this to become better.
Ultimately it depends on how mentally tough the guy is. And Diego is mentally tough. The interesting for me here is how Diego is going to come back from being absoluetly demolished like he has never been before.
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think its crap with someone of Diego's mental strength. That would apply to someone like Karo or Willy G or Mir. Diego is proven.
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-Stephen King
Diego's never faced this much adversity though
I want to see how he’ll react, personally I don’t think leaving your weight class and getting drunk is a good reaction to a demoralising loss so it’ll be interesting to see whether he can overcome this defeat. Diego’s always been a confident and self-motivated fighter but he’s never been dominated like he was by BJ and if that fight took away some of Diego’s self-belief then he could be in big trouble in this fight.
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
I like your reasoning but I think this is a classic case of overanalyzation, mate.
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-Stephen King
I Would Like To Say
that losing to BJ was bad sure but I truly believe dropping two straight to Kos and Fitch while also dropping your long time training camp was much more mentally draining.
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Penn won via TKO due to a cut, David. That is a huge difference from losing via a KO or a flash KO. BJ did everything he could to put Diego on ice and he could not do it. Diego's will is too strong, mate. Hathaway better bring his A+++ game.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
diego basically tapped out...every other fight when you see the fight stopped because of a cut the fighter always goes completely ape shit
diego didnt offer any objections…he was basically saying “im done dude, im not gonna even try to put on an act like im disputing this”
you know you're having some good sex when you start planning what you're gonna say in the 911 call afterwards...
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Exactly
He looked like a broken man at the end as well, the fact that he got smashed at the Fighters Only awards ceremony not long after that fight and that he decided to move back up to 170 to take a much lower profile fight makes me think that he has lost a lot of his confidence, which was his best attribute in the first place. Hathaway won’t finish him but he could win a decision, this is a very dangerous fight for Diego and for once I’m backing the underdog.
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
Hathaway is not BJ Penn.
And for Diego to last to the 5th round is a testament to his toughness, which is what OJ’s point is.
Toughness alone won't help him if Hathaway takes him down
You don’t have to be BJ to beat him and I wouldn’t be surprised if that loss breaks Diego because he has always been a confidence fighter and a humbling defeat like that could end up being Diego’s downfall as a fighter. Some losses make fighters stronger, some make them fold and this could have been the fight that finished Diego as a top fighter.
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
then sanchez is not equal to frankie edgar.
hathaway is a live dog. he has a good chance to win this.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
The fight may be lower profile
but that would be more the choice of the UFC than Diego. He is a proper company man who would never turn down any fight they offered him, and if he did turn it down you would say he was ducking him or he was scared. Not many fighters would have made it out of the first round with BJ after that punch and the punches that followed, Diego went five rounds, it was a dissapointing loss, but there was no shame in it. The Kos fight is irrelevant, and he asked to fight Fitch when everybody else was ducking Fitch and made it a close fight. Diego is far from done, the guy still believes he is destined to wear a belt even if most don’t think it. I looked forward to seeing him have many more fights in the UFC.
which belt 155 or 170?
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, you are flattering Diego big time.
His fights at LW were uninspiring. Colorful character, however, I expect him to be a so so Fighter the remainder of his career.
Uninspiring?
He beat Joe Daddy very impressively. And he went to war with Clay Guida.
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You are really reaching Hella...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Penn completely destroyed Diego and made him look amatuer.
"I'm serious, look at this face, it's serious as a heart attack and a heart attack is serious." - Quniton Jackson
" My style is Whoop that ass" - Quinton Jackson
Elite fighters do that to alot of good to very good fighters.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Not An Amateur
Just showed the space between Ultra Talented and Elite
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
well in comparison to Penn on the night, he looked less that elite.
"I'm serious, look at this face, it's serious as a heart attack and a heart attack is serious." - Quniton Jackson
" My style is Whoop that ass" - Quinton Jackson
Any insight as to Diego's upcoming fight?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
im not quite sure what you mean OJR?
"I'm serious, look at this face, it's serious as a heart attack and a heart attack is serious." - Quniton Jackson
" My style is Whoop that ass" - Quinton Jackson
How do you think Diego will perform against Hathaway?
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
*slapping forehead*
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
LOL im abit slow tonight
"I'm serious, look at this face, it's serious as a heart attack and a heart attack is serious." - Quniton Jackson
" My style is Whoop that ass" - Quinton Jackson
LOL. Its ok, man. Thanks for the laugh. No worries.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
ey man its cool im sorry for the other shit on that other post about GSP and Kos.
"I'm serious, look at this face, it's serious as a heart attack and a heart attack is serious." - Quniton Jackson
" My style is Whoop that ass" - Quinton Jackson
Its cool, man. No worries. We all lose our temper here and there.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Ey no hard feelings
But i seriously do train around 5-6 times a week! LOL
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" My style is Whoop that ass" - Quinton Jackson
Sanchez Will Win
I think Diego will murder him. I think he is a lot better at Welterweight. After loosing to BJ I think he is out for blood. I think he will Win Via first round KO. Hathaway has no proved himself yet he has beat a couple mediocre fighters. I dont know why all you are hating on Sanchez do bad. He is a good fighter and is always excitingQQQ
I like Diego...
but he’s a whole new special kind of crazy.
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he will run around the octagon twice as fast as he usually does and say the word yeah over and
over again when he makes his entrance. the guy jsut bothers me. i hope hathaway just busts him up.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 25, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Diego is a natural 170
I think he lost power when he went to 155. He just seems quicker and more powerful at 170
He is too small to be a credible threat at 170.
He is a natural 170, but the top of the heap at 170 are natural 185’ers. 170 is dominated by wrestlers that know how to cut effectively from 185-190 (GSP, Kos and Fitch) and Alves, who cuts from 200+. Diego walks around at what 175?
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Thats A Bit Off
Diego is not a Natural 170er nor does he walk around at 170. And Kos and Fitch are not “natural” 185ers. They are just big MW’s. Alves on the other hand you can make a case for being a legit MW fighting at WW.
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Their natural training weight is 185 or more. They use dieting and water cutting to reach 170.
How is that not a natural 185 pound man? Am I confusing the lingo? Did the ability to cut weight get included into someone’s “natural” weight? sure, no one fights at their natural weight, at least in North America, but it is still their natural weight, correct?
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Natural In MMA is Different then Natural in Everyday Life
That would mean Tibau was a natural 200 pounder even though he competes at 155. He would be more like a natural MW. The word natural can often be mistaken
by AintNoSunshine on May 25, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Diego use to be a small Welter Weight hes about average now
In the training camp leading up to the Penn fight Diego was actually 183 184 b4 he started his cut.Given all of that time i guarantee you he cut from at least 180 for this fight without a doubt.He’s gonna have his cardio and pace advantage again and he’s gonna totally out class Hathaway whether its on the feet in the clinch or ground.Remember these words;)Over and out

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