Josh Koscheck: Georges St. Pierre doesn't have knockout power and I do
by Jesse Holland on May 20, 2010 9:27 AM EDT
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Quoteworthy:
"I don't think I need to get in Georges St-Pierre's head. He knows what kind of fighter I've improved (to) ... I'm going to have my wrestling so good that I'm going to force Georges St-Pierre into standing toe to toe with me and then I'm going to end up knocking him out, because I believe that Georges doesn't have knockout power and I do ... [In the first fight] I kind of just overlooked he was a good athlete and had the ability to learn wrestling so quick. I believe that I was young, naive and a little immature. I think now I'm wiser, older and a lot smarter when it comes to preparing and putting a game plan together."
Newly appointed Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 12 Coach Josh Koscheck talks about his upcoming welterweight title fight against current division champion Georges St. Pierre at the conclusion of their participation in the Spike TV reality show. "Kos" went toe-to-toe with "Rush" at UFC 74: "Respect" back in 2007 but came up on the wrong end of a unanimous decision. Has he evolved enough over the three year period between fights to give GSP a run for his money? And does he have the power to knock the Canadian out? Could be a flash KO -- or it could be Wrestlemania. Early predictions?
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I would love it if Kos can keep the fight standing and force Georges to trade with him
Haven’t seen GSP’s stand up in a while.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions
I believe Kos can keep it standing, but thats where GSP has a distinct advantage. I like KOS but how much power has Paulo Thiago showed? GSP will win 99% of the exchanges, and pick KOS apart. Hope im wrong though GSP needs to lose I dont buy his " im the nicest guy in the world " additude.
This
plus GSP will take him down if he wants to.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on May 20, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
+ 2
Kos can work on his takedown defense all day every day until the fight, and GSP will still land at LEAST 3 of every 5 TD attempts.
I truly believe it would take someone with Size and Maia’s level of Jits to beat GSP. Come to think of it. I would like to see Maia drop to WW and try it.
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
do you think he's secretly evil or something?
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on May 20, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree'd.
GSP is definitely the better stand-up fighter BUT he does lack that big power shot that Koschek’s right hand can deliver. I still think GSP’s footwork and jab will be more then enough to subdue Kos on the feet and that he will be able to take him down consistently throughout the fight(tho not as easy as their first encounter). GSP by UD. This fight is like a 80-20 IMO, but if it stays standing the entire time, the its 65-35% GSP.
Kos is a good fighter, but KO power he does not have
He knocked out Yoshida and Trigg. Not exactly a fine resume. Also, both shots were landed cleanly, as Yoshida was backing up and Trigg decided to stop defending his head halfway through the round. GSP is the better striker, hands down.
I don't see how you can say he doesn't have KO power...
You just gave two examples of KO’s….Also his fight with Dustin.. But I do recognize his ko’s have come against less then stellar opponents, but look what happened with Serra. And like I said above, GSP is by far the better striker.
I think the quality of opponent is what determines his KO power
When he fought real strikers like AJ and Daley, he totally used bitch tactics as excuses, and then took the fight to the ground. I have no respect for that stuff. He realized he couldn’t swing with those guys. Good point with Serra, anything can happen in MMA.
So you must hate GSP bc you described his gameplan for every fight!
Why would KOS stand and trade with thost guys??? you don’t respect that? Go watch K1 then.
I like GSP, so I'm confused by your points
Also, KO power against Yoshida and Trigg doesn’t count for much.
I bet you that if
GSP faught those guys, he wouldn’t ko them like Koschek did.
GSP already fought Trigg and didn’t put him out, tho he laid a severe beating.
Not sure how I confuse you
I think GSP is one of the g.o.a.t. I respect Kos, but he loves his boxing too much and only when he fights better strikers does he resort to his bread and butter wrestling. GSP has put better strikers to sleep than Kos. He put Hughes out in their 1st rematch, Sean Sherk and he made BJ forget where he was. You have to respect that.
confuse
r u saying hughes and sherk were good strikers??
"Hughes" and "Striker" don't even belong in the same sentence
Unless it’s Hughes is DEFINATLEY NOT a striker of any sort.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
haha well said
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
And Sherk is a LW btw
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Missed my point:
GSP has beaten people at their own game, and the quality of fighters he’s faced is much higher than Kos.
O dam he got caught: please insert mandatory “U Mad?” pic here. (Still haven’t figured it out)
Not debating that
But you were comparing Hughes and Sherk’s striking to Yoshida and Trigg; both of which could not compete below 170 lbs for starters and both of which would beat Hughes and Sherk in a striking match.
Hughes, because he can’t strike for shit; and Sherk because he wouldn’t have the reach.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Nothing to debate...
except what GSP will do should he win this fight. Aside from Shields, there’s no one else.
GSP! GSP! GSP!
GSP is gonna beat the piss out of Kos in any aspect of mma!
How the fock are they letting kos coach on TUF? Other then wrestling, what the fock is he gonna teach a young mma fighter? how to throw that silly overhnd right from too far away that NEVER lands…or his whitebelt submission game? I would be mortified if I was on the show, and had Kos as a coach instead of GSP!
These kids arent gonna learn a thiung from Kos! what a joke!
Cant wait til GSP knocks him back downt he ladder….Kos/Fitch should fight…Loser has to leave for Strikeforce!
not true
Kos will teach them how to fake an injury from an illegal move that didn’t really happen an get points deducted..
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
by salamagogo on May 20, 2010 10:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And if that doesn't work....
a nice poke in the eye.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on May 20, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
What are we looking for?
I tried to look for anything that could have strung Kos’ eye. Even well before the ghost knee. I couldn’t see anything. Also, don’t think you should be defending Kos’ punching ability as hard as you are. His boxing ability is whack. Can he KO someone if that RAINBOW PUNCH lands, YES! Can he land that punch against a good opponent, NOPE! Refer to Chuck vs Rashad for the solution to that type of attack.
Kos is a better striker than Matt Serra the last decent striker that GSP stood toe to toe with for more than 30 seconds.Kos will be bringing US olympic wrestlers into camp,we may even see Kos not just stuff GSP’S takedowns but put him on his back and we’ll see what he’s got off his back.
by Handsome Devil on May 20, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Kos has been wrestling since he was 3, I doubt he'll get any better in 6 months.
You said Kos will be bringing US wrestlers into camp. Why do you say this? Do you have an inside scoop? Are you talking out of your ass?
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
...that was as ugly as his punches.
He fell down on that head kick. Let’s not forget that he basically was being outstruck by McLovin in that fight before his hail mary landed. An example of a fundamentally sound head kick would be….well, GSP on Hughes.
And Kos telegraphes his overhand right so much, as stated above by others, it never lands. If GSP wanted to be that sloppy he would have every bit of power (against a heavy bag that wouldn’t move out of the way).
by Mayhem chimpanzee on May 20, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Great thread. Looks like I am late to the party. GSP will pick Kos apart much like he did to Alves. And just when Kos starts to get his bearings GSP will mix in some TD's and keep Kos off balance. No finish for GSP here. Kos is too tough.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
i dunno OJR, i think GSP might sub him...
just gotta feeling lol. but there is gonna be a striking display before the sub. at least, this is what im really hoping for. striking clinic, GSP rocking KOS, then finishing him on the ground. and i even like kos. not as a person really, but for the fact that he will absolutely fight anyone and he is rarely in a boring fight. rarely.
by Andrew Keller on May 20, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
No way that GSP subs Kos. Not with Kos' wrestling background, anyway. It will be a replay of the Alves fight. Mixed, pinpoint striking with a side dish of TD's to keep Kos off balance. Pure MMA.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
ive just got a feeling its gonna be kinda like penn-hughes I
dazed kos tapping to a choke…god i’d love to see it! but back to reality, your probs right ojr. kos would be one helluva tough guy to sub. but i still think its possible! and i dont think GSP will be able to take Kos down as easy as he took alves to the mat. thast why im so damn excited for this fight!
by Andrew Keller on May 20, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
No way that he subs him?
The only thing that saved Kos the last time was hanging onto to his underwear for dear life. He almost left with one arm and just the elastic band of his jock. GSP definitely has the tools to tap him.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on May 20, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I find your argument to be very flawed based on GSP's sub attempts against a GG noob like Hardy. Good luck with that line of thinking, though.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
How is it flawed?
Kos’ sub defense from the kimura was to hold onto his own shorts. Effective in that it stalled out the end of the round but hardly a statement that Kos has near the technical skill to get out of bad positions. For that matter, since you brought it up, the mental toughness that Hardy had to not tap where most would. Faking illegal strikes to get himself out of bad spots don’t count.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on May 20, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Technical or not, feel free to post the last time Kos was subbed. Not to say that he will never fall to a sub loss but I don't see GSP changing that particular streak.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Did he just say that shit?
I'm a pan-handlin', man-handlin', post-holin', high-rollin', dust-bowlin' daddy
He does have a point, coming into their first fight
Who in the hell really thought GSP was gonna out wrestle Kos? He was primarily winning with his striking at that time, then he comes in with no wrestling back ground and completely dominates Kos with TD’s and top control. I don’t think Koscheck was prepared for that crazy improvement in Georges wrestling ability.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Although we had not realized yet
the TD stuffs against hughes a few fights before were probably some of the best early indications that G could wrastle like a mutherfocker
Not a fan of Kos but I admire his attitude into the Octagon. This is gonna be a good match and Josh has abilities to give a hard work to St. Pierre. The interesting part of the game is Kos will work on his root: wrestling, instead of trading stand-up.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
Kos's attitude in the octagon?
He flops and fakes eye pokes and possibly knees to the head… Just saying
by The Danimal on May 20, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not looking forward
to seeing Kos for a whole season of TUF. I can barely stand to look at him, let alone hear him talk.
I'm not concerned about TUF but the coach showdown is good.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 20, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I would love to be on Kos' TUF team...
So I could keep pretending to cry whenever anyone hit me – I could say I learned from the master. At the end of the day’s training I could go and lie on top of one of the other guys too – thus cementing me as a pro and having Kos’ entire exciting skillset.
You would also require your own hair stylist
on-call to make sure your blonde Bo Bo the clown look was always fresh.
Are we really going to start talking about this fight already?
We have like 7 months to go and 12 more UFC events before this fight goes down. I hate waiting this long to see guys like GSP fight…it’s ridiculous. He’s in his prime and should be keeping busy racking up the Ws and build his legacy instead of doing a lame show with washed out talent. When is the last time a good fighter came out of TUF?
"To me, MMA is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other."
Ross Pearson looks decent...
Maybe Andre winner too…
I'm talking recent...
The first 2 TUFs had loads of talent but since then it’s been a steady decline in terms of overall talent…maybe 1 or 2 guys are decent but asides from that…the pool is getting shallow.
"To me, MMA is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography and the dancers hit each other."
by Buster Bluth on May 20, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Im takin Kos in this 1
Hes allot more improved then the last fight as we all kno. and i jus Think GSP has gotten too complacent
GSP is the opposite of complacent
he takes no risks and treats every opponent like they’re the best guy he’s ever fought.
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on May 20, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe i used the rong word... my point is
he is Boring to watch now.. the whole “I dont take chances” thing is LAME as the Champ u should b lookin to prove you deserve to b the champ like AS.. Yea he may have played with MIA the last 3 rounds but he was jus showing us what happens when u put a fighter who shouldnt be fighting for a title in the cage with him.. Instead of GSP toying around in his last fight he should have Mounted and GnP’ed him. He didnt prove anything by out workin him on the round.. Did it suprise anyone?? OF course NOT! Kos will force him to stand and Kos will take that title!
kOS can't force him to stand and shouldn't be allowed to fight GSP after beating the bums he's fought since the last time they hooked up.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
There really aren't a whole lot of other options at 170...
And of all the rematch’s Kos would have to be the most improved fighter since the first time he’s fought Georges. Anyway, I wanted another high level wrestler to get a crack at St. Pierre, cause I’d like to see him trading blows for 5 rds instead of wrestling/top control. Kos at least has the potential and the skills to keep the fight standing; not that he’s going to win the fight, but I think he could make it more exciting then the recent title defenses GSP has had.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
He Cant??
His Wrestling will be is better than GSP’s.. youll see that on the fight night. And if it goes to the ground i see him Pounding GSP out
RAMPAGE DESTROYS SOULS & Anderson SIlva is GOD... But Jon Jones Will B Champ Soon
Nah by Kos's own admission his wrestling isn't better than GSP's
he’s actually stated he watched Georges vs Dan Hardy 10-20 times to learn some of GSP’s tricks and I quote “I learned a lot from watching Georges, If you’re going to learn, learn from the best.”
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
BUt I still have hope
that he can at least keep the fight standing the majority of the time
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Not that that would be a good thing for KOS since Georges obviously has the better stand up.
He won’t fall for the one weapon Kos has.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
You are delusional Mal_FLoe
Get a spell check too.
hahaha, the whole Spell check thing is OLD
I dnt need a spell check. if u can understand what im sayin thats all that matters.
RAMPAGE DESTROYS SOULS & Anderson SIlva is GOD... But Jon Jones Will B Champ Soon
Ok...
So yuor syanig I dnot need a sepll cehck? A sduty sowehd all you need are the frist and lsat lttres in the crroect pacle for soomene to udnretsnad waht yuor syanig..
So why bother with any of it?
lol, i actually understood that whole thing.
If i EVER post somthin whit that many typos in it THEN i expect to be told to get a Spell Check.. but 1 or 2 things isnt that bad. and plus im at work so i gotta type fast.. shyt happens give me a brake bruh
RAMPAGE DESTROYS SOULS & Anderson SIlva is GOD... But Jon Jones Will B Champ Soon
lol I wasn't harking on your spelling, a few mistakes is natural.. happens to the best of us :)
But Spell Check is definitely needed to a certain extent.
I thought a "brake bruh" was some advanced technology to stop a car.
I AM SOMETIMES BIASED - Get over it!!!!!!!
Completely disagree
Silva disrespected his opponent. GSP had an opponent you could say was equally below his standards, but he at least gave it his all and competed every minute of that fight. Of course, Silva has the potential to be more exciting, but I lost respect for him that night.
GSP could have ended that fight on the feet but he was too SCARED!
He fights too safe! When i fight im not in there to jus win, I go in to break your pride and have you realize im better than you! GSP jus goes to get a W.. Thats no Champ! AS proved a point with MIA, now Sonnen will get Finished in the first round because hes talkin WAAAAY too much 4 a fight whos only chance to win is a takedown and Pray..
RAMPAGE DESTROYS SOULS & Anderson SIlva is GOD... But Jon Jones Will B Champ Soon
You're right. You are a better fighter than Georges and he is scared.
Retard.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Never said i was better
but! i would NEVER b afriad to fight anyone!
RAMPAGE DESTROYS SOULS & Anderson SIlva is GOD... But Jon Jones Will B Champ Soon
Who has Georges tried to avoid?
He’ll fight anyone and he beats everyone. Don’t be a hater because he is good at what you guys do.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
not afriad of a fighter...
More so afraid to put on a show. I know its MMA and wrestling is jus as fair as stand up and all, but in fights where GSP is the better fighter anyway the fight goes, i think he should put on a show for us. But he’ll NEVER do that because if the other guys strength is Stand up hes gonna take it to the ground.. I guess my point is jus… I dont Like how GSP fights anymore. Its kinda like playin someone in UFC Undisputed 2009 thats only knows how to punch and Kick, I can easily take him down and GnP for the easy W but id rather Knock him out cuz i KNOW im a better all around player
RAMPAGE DESTROYS SOULS & Anderson SIlva is GOD... But Jon Jones Will B Champ Soon
He is boring...
if you ONLY expect a KO every time. My only advice is enjoy what he does do, because he does it really well. I look to fighters who have a history of KOs to finish fights by KO
GSP? Complacement? Blasphemy!
The hardest working guy in training and in the cage. Let’s look at his complacency: outstrike and outgrapple Thiago Alves, outstrike and outwrestle Jon Fitch, went for submissions against Hardy, and TKO’s Serra with the worst knees to the body I’ve ever seen. If Fitch can’t beat him, Kos won’t.
I wonder what "phantom" illegal strike kos will use in this one??
Eye poke?? Groin shot?? Maybe the illegal knee??
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
Illegal hair pulling
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
Rogan actually issued an apology to Kos, citing that the illegal knee attempt show in slow mo
Was actually not the one that made contact; it was the right knee of Daley as they were in a scramble and Kos was trying to stand up. I can’t really tell by the Gif 100% but it looks like his head snaps back a bit and he could’ve definatley been knee’d in the face.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Matter of fact if you watch the knee at the end
The only reason it doesn’t make contact is cause Kos is already moving his head toward the ref before it’s thrown.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting point
But let’s be honest, Kos is dirty, so his credibility is gone. Plus, he did such a good acting job, the Academy nominated him for Best Faked Injury.
Well he overstated/exagerrated to get the ref's attention to be sure
He just wanted his 5 minutes though, I think the whole “campaign to get a point deduction” is bullshit.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
None of this matters anyway.......
Everyone knows Kos over reacts to ileagal blows, plus this affected the outcome of the fight zero..
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
It's the same in any sport.. You see a basketball player bump into the guy, he hits the floor sliding
And he didn’t even make contact that hard; it’s to call the ref’s attention to the situation. If an illegal contact happens, no matter how minor it is he still gets his 5 minutes to recover. Can’t blame the guy for trying to get the ref’s attention.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
It probably affected the post-fight outcome though -
Prompting Daley to go for the extra swing.
I hate cheating and I’d have probably swung for him for being such a pussy too.
Kos was cheating?? Lmao this somment is just stupid......
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
*comment
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
I thought it was acting until
the possibility of the right doing the damage was pointed out. Looks might there might be a case
I fail to see where trying to draw the ref's attention to an illegal blow is cheating
Exaggerated? Sure, but cheating just cause he wants his 5 minutes??
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
bitter uk fans
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
Bitter Kos hater - it's two fights running now, he's a pussy.
Bitter WWE fan?
muahahha cute
let me guess, you are black and from the UK?
That would make sense…
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
White - and from the UK ;)
I just hate Kos, Fitch and Brock… In-fact wrestlers in general.
People always argue that in MMA you must have a “well rounded” skillset – yet these wrestlers are no better at striking than guys like Daley and Hardy are at wrestling. You don’t have to have all-round skills at present – wrestling is rewarded too much in MMA and utterly dull guard/half-guard constant transitions are counted as “keeping busy” when they should just be stood up.
I’m not ignorant of the ground game, I like Fedor’s ground n pound and Palhares joint-tearing as much as the next guy – it seems wrestlers who do no damage are my issue.
+1
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on May 20, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
swinging after the bell is cheating nimrod.
by Andrew Keller on May 20, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly, if I was fighting a guy who did his best to...
cry like a baby, fake injury etc. I would gladly hit him after the bell to do the damage I had been penalised for. I don’t give a crap what others say – none of the phantom knees have hit Kos hard (if at all), he overplays it to get the other guy docked points. This makes him a pussy and he should man-up, he’s supposed to be a fucking fighter. Daley got it right “he’s not a fighter, he’s a wrestler”.
Yup, suits me.
Bas Rutten did it best when Jason DeLucia kept complaining about phantom illegal strikes – Bas decided to destroy his liver as punishment. Good man.
He did that before the final bell rang..
Thus he isn’t a scumbag..
See how this works?
before bell = Cool
after bell = gangster wannabe scumbag..
Say it with me now!
Yes, the difference is -
Jason DeLucia was actually a fighter, he wasn’t happy to just drag Rutten down to lay on him and do no damage for 3 rounds – thus Bas had the opportunity to fight.
Self-preservation man-humping with no GnP is not fighting and is why I hate Kos and Fitch in particular, they get boo’ed not because the fans are stupid, but because they are dull.
Anyway,
After the bell hits happen all the time in boxing and no-one bats an eyelid, maybe it’s because the guys are fighting and it’s expected emotions will overrun sometimes? It was a shock at the end of the Kos/Daley fight because it was the first punch that had been thrown in 10 minutes. ;)
or because Boxing is already mainstream..
Maybe it wouldn’t of been a big deal if this was 10 years from now when MMA is more of a fixed mainstay, but for a sport trying to grow it doesn’t have a place, AND shouldn’t have a place once it is established..
The fact that your defending this pos for his assault(yes it’s assault) makes me question the character of MMA viewers.
Agreed
Especially since this was in Montreal, which is supposed to serve as an example for the other provinces like Ontario that don’t have sanctioned MMA yet.
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
wow sorry im so late getting back here
my point was you said “i hate cheating” and then you go on to say you would gladly cheat as long as the other guy did it first. I in no way think kos cheated, or he’s a pussy, seeing as hes a professional cage fighter with an insane amount of wins in the octagon. pussies are the guys in tapout and affliction tees at the bar that are roided up out of their minds and talk shit all the time and get into shoving matches with me, yet when they find out im actually a fighter all they wanna do is buy me a beer. those are the pussies. and as far as your problem with wrestlers-you said that laying in someones guard isnt fighting-well neither is laying on your back with someone in your guard. if you dont wanna learn how to wrestle, at least learn how to stand up from underneath one. its not kos’s fault that the UK has no wrestling program and daley couldnt squrim his ass out from under him. daley threw a temper tantrum and hit kos after the bell. daley was the only cheater in that fight.
by Andrew Keller on May 20, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone who argues that Kos was cheating is a bitter Daley fan or a Kos hater. I don't like Kos but he was only guilty of milking the illegal knee. The End.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
How is Daley a cheater?
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
he punched kos in the face 10 seconds after the bell rang.
how are you confused?
by Andrew Keller on May 20, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
I think he missed the event.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
LOL
I think you don’t know what you’re talking about. as usual.
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
that would be breaking the rules not cheating
cheating would a form a rule breaking with the intent to give you an advantage and hopefully help you win. there was no way in hell the shot after the horn would help Daley win.
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
You say potato, I say you're clueless.
It wasn’t cheating, but it was breaking the rules? Splitting hairs wouldn’t you say?
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
okay then, you lack both common sense and class.
noted
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
Dude
I said he cheated for throwing an illegal strike and for punching someone after the bell, at that point you said he didn’t cheat he broke the rules. You are splitting hairs. The guy may not have cheated but he is still an assbag, so quit defending him and try to make some sense once in a while.
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Please see gif above
Clear presentation of “Cheating” or “rule breaking” and “illegal”, however you want to phrase it.
by Mayhem chimpanzee on May 20, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's see.
Throwing a knee at the head of a downed opponent. Throwing a punch at the side of the head of an opponent long after the bell….
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
throwing a knee at a downed opponent might be considered cheating but the punch after the bell is not cheating it’s just breaking the rules.
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
Sorry if I used the wrong terminolgy for you.
Breaking the rules/cheating, who cares the guys an ass.
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Is this a serious question? Or do you have some good weed on you?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
wow, hilarious.
you should be a comedian.
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
Actually, you make it too easy. Seriously, semantics notwithstanding, you are arguing a lost cause. Are you just playing Devil's Advocate here or what?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
if you watch it closely -
Daley probably also didn’t know it was illegal when he threw it as Kos was trying for another takedown so he probably presumed he wasn’t still on his knee’s…
Yea Not saying it was intentional on Daley's part
but intentional or not he still ate an illegal knee on the ground; and Daley then followed up with an intentional illegal knee attempt. I don’t think Kos deserves as much shit as he’s getting on this one.
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by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
People are complaining about Koschek due to his attitude.
If it was a fan-respected fighter like GSP nobody would be saying shit, other then Daley shouldn’t of thrown the knee.
Koschek love him or hate him is a fighter, he doesn’t seem like the kind of guy to fake shit, tho to embellish it a little is definitely in his repertoire.
Which is exactly what I've been saying...
In response to the “phantom knee” and “faker” comments..
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
If anyone here's got sand in their vag it's you.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
stop going to the beach
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Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
I wanna show off my Brazilian wax tho!
When a guy puts in that kinda work he wants to show it off.
It’s like my homo-erotic mating ritual if you will.
Seriously tho, whats O Damn getting on with?
lol I think he misunderstood me agreeing with him as some form of sandy vagina..
haha 10 seconds after I read the sand vagina comment...
this dude who sits next to me in my office asked me if I know where to buy sand paper. Weird day…
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by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
GSP will just grind out a wrestling Lay and Pray just like against Hardy...
If anyone thinks that Kos can outwrestle the twice stronger GSP, they are just naive. And so are the ones who think GSP is ready to stand with anyone, it will be pure ground top control decision victory.
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I think Kos should be looking to take Georges down
get him against the cage, give him a taste of his own medicine. I haven’t seen anybody even try. He doesn’t have to “outwrestle” him freenow he just needs to take him down a couple of times and stay on top long enough to do some damage. I think if Kos is aggressive enough, then he can put GSP on the back foot. But that’s easier said than done, I’m interested to see what happens anyway, but I think if Josh can score a few takedowns of his own and get to the shot first, then we could have a really interesting fight on our hands.
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on May 20, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed with that SFP...
But Kos would need to do that for 5 rounds… He couldn’t submit Daley, so he won’t be able to submit GSP. And I have a feeling GSP would beat him to the punch with his take downs, cause Kos wants to keep it standing.
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If Kos goes in with the game plan of keeping it standing, then I think he's fucked,
because firstly, he won’t be able to, not long enough to make a significant difference and secondly because GSP will out strike him, even if he doesn’t KO him, he’ll still land more.
I think it’ll come down to who gets on top first. Which will probably be Georges, but I’m willing to believe that Kos could take a round or two.I don’t think he would need to submit georges, just land a fair number of punches and stay active. plus Kos has great cardio.
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on May 20, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I really hope he makes it competitive... I am a fan of Kos, and absolutely can't stand GSP
But I have my doubts he can even win a round. I see it going just like against Hardy, all top control by GSP every round ill decision.
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Ko's IMO has the best chance of anyone in the division.
He has the wrestling to put GSP on his back and the power to put him to sleep on the feet. That being said I still think GSP wins but I wouldn’t be surprised if Koschek wins a round or two with his own wrestling.
I think Fitch has the best chance, and I would rather see Kos fight him first.
Not that it would be the most exciting fight.
GSP whooped fitch's ass way worse than he did kos's
i think Kos has the best chance out of any of GSP’s challengers to date.
by Andrew Keller on May 20, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
yep, I can't wait for Jake vs GSP!
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the only reason i wanna see shields/gsp....
is cause i feel 90% confident that GSP will put shields to sleep. i dont think shields will be able to take GSP down, and GSP KNOWS his stand-up is lightyears beyond jake’s. hence, gsp will stand.
by Andrew Keller on May 20, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Jake has less of a chance of beating GSP then I do.
If Shields called me up and asked to do a boxing match with me I would be there with bells on and I’d feel confident I could knock his ass out!!
Jake’s stand-up is horrid, the bullies were beating his ass on Millers show! GSP would stuff him and it would look 100% like the Hughes fight, a fish out of water til he gets head-kicked and elbowed to the bottom of the ladder.
Intertesting...
Shields has never been knocked out, and his only TKO loss was 10 years ago in his third career fight. But I am sure a keyboard warrior like you would knock him out… lol internet is great
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lol obviously i'm joking around....
But i’m just trying to communicate how bad Shields stand-up is..
And he hasn’t been ko’d because his wrestling is good enough to get people to the ground. Once he gets to the UFC WW division full of wrestlers at his level, he’s gonna be in trouble because his Stand-Up is so bad.
i'll agree he can take A punch
but i think GSP will force him to eat many, many punches. and i think GSP will (t)ko him, and become just the 2nd man to do so.
by Andrew Keller on May 20, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Not only that..
I think fighters like KOs, Peirce beat him also..
His time of being the dominant wrestler is over, he will be forced to work on his stand-up and sadly its light-years behind even being bad..
millions!
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lol sadly it doesn't work that way..
If Dan had the cardio he could of followed up and finished it.. If GSP hurts Shields he will have limitless cardio to make sure Shields doesn’t get back up. yes, he even has the cardio for a million punches.. If thats what it will take.
GSP couldn't even finish B.J. with a million punches!
I probably shouldn’t have typed that, but whatever, let the storm begin! LOL
Exactly, you shouldn't have..
Yes Shields does seem to have a good chin, but to place it on the level of a Penn chin is a bit questionable.
And tho I know you need no reminder, didn’t GSP tko Penn? Thought I would save someone else the time.
Penn is a lightweight...and not even a huge one
Shields is taller, stronger and an actual welterweight
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i've come to the conclusion that penn has no chin...
no chin as in no place to hit him that will put him to sleep…no button…no time card to punch. my last wish on my deathbead would be to see someone land a shin full blast to penns jaw and watch penn’s lights turn out…sadly i almost feel that penn could stand stock-still with his hands in his pockets and let cro cop slam his left shin into his face…and penn would just spit out his teeth and smile. god i hate penn!
by Andrew Keller on May 20, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Couldn't finish BJ? Did you say that BOW?
Because on my DVD the fifth round must have been cut off. Did anyone see the fifth round and feel like giving an update on that?
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
You just keep falling asleep before the 5th
it’s the GSP effect
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So there was a fifth round?
Don’t be jealous freenow. Just because your hero doesn’t look good for most of his fights. You probably aren’t use to seeing dominant champions. What belt does Fedor have? That’s right!
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fedor actually just got a new belt...
his old one was too small. he had extra holes punched in it all the way to the end…finkledick keeps feeding fedor his icecream to keep fedor from ripping his arms off and beating him to death with them.
by Andrew Keller on May 20, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
My hero stopped his last 8 opponents
Your hero got 3 finishes in his last 8 fights and LOST one… mauahahaha nice try though
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Your hero was also being smashed by a fat dude that sucks.
And losing the boxing match to AA.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Yea well
My Dad can beat up your Mom.
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by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
You two are always trolling in GSP threads.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
And of those last 8 opponents...
all 8 of Gsps’ were in the top 10, can fedor say the same?? I think not….
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
hahahaha jay, it sucks when all you can cling to is like 2 mins
and you are even wrong about those
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He was being smashed by Buck Rogers. It doesn't matter if you don't believe it.
Smashed by a fat dude from Sam’s Club, how embarrassing.
Who’s Fedor fighting next? 15th ranked Werdum? EXCITING!
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
It isn't hard to stop your last 8 opponents when you duck the best fighters.
Fedor goes to UFC and JDS, Brock, Shane, Cain and probably Roy Nelson all kill him.
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I was with ya till you said roy lol
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
muahahahahha yopua re making my morning
havent laughed like this in a while
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I'm always around, especially on GSP threads.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Fedor is declining..
but at his peak he was without a doubt the best HW to ever grace MMA, Period.
Declining based on what? finishing his last 8 opponents?
Where are you getting this from?
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My guess is the fact that his last 2 opponents had the upper hand in their matches before being KO'ed. Fedor won but did not display dominance.
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-Stephen King
oh yeah I forgot Arlofski was owning Fedor...
Seriously you guys are funny.
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I am afraid that AA was outstriking Fedor. Obviously, Fedor owned AA because he won via a devastating KO. You see the difference?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
He was being outstruck by AA, Fedor didn't land anything except the KO punch.
When was the last time GSP was losing a fight?
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When was the last time Fedor lost a fight?
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5th fight in. Against a bum. Next.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
you forgot that it was in only 17seconds by TKO lol
I love this little rivalry we have since my hero is undefeated and your hero got both submitted and tapped to strikes. You can never win, but its fun
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When your guy stops ducking fighters in the top 5(currently, not 3 years ago) we can talk.
He does have that exciting match with 12th ranked Werdum coming up. That should be a real barn-burner.
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Free, can you actually say,
with a straight face, that Fedor and GSP have faced similar levels of competition over the last few years? Hardy and Serra are the only two opponents that arent exactly elite.
by Andrew Keller on May 20, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Fedor fighting Werdum
is roughly equivalent to GSP fighting one of the following; Mike Swick, Jay Hieron, Carlos Condit etc. Fedor gets off much easier. That my little defense of Georges
have to agreed
no one in the WW will come close to beating GSP
it is kos with his strong wrestling base
Kos took a round from GSP and had him on his back in those 3 rounds.
Kos gave GSP a better fight in 3 rounds than fitch could in 5. and saying that the reason GSP whooped fitch worse cause he had more time to ass-whoop is kinda counter-productive to your point.
by Andrew Keller on May 20, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Not counter-productive at all
Let’s be honest, Fitch faced a re-dedicated and better GSP than Kos did. The guy is better each time he fights. And I don’t think Kos could’ve lasted that fight. We shall see now, as it will be a 5-rounder.
lol! great movie. to see a few times.
it got very overplayed. but “go fuck yourselves san diego” will never get old. neither will “im gonna punch you right in the ovaries!”
by Andrew Keller on May 20, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol, exactly
I was thinking of the scene where he argues with his co-anchor about the origins of San Diego.
“Which of course means a whale’s vagina”
“I’m pretty sure it means Saint Diego”
“Agree to disagree”.
Lay and Pray just like against hardy??
C’mon dude that armbar and kimura was sick. Anyone else would have tapped, credit to hardy, but that fight should have been over twice…..
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
1 armbar & 1 kimura in 25 minutes
U were impressed by that?
by d*locc on May 20, 2010 1:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
locc, step away from the computer. You don't want none of this.
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by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
BEAUTIFUL!
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Another BJ fan still butt-hurt?
You guys are funny. Must sucked when he quit in their second fight, after all that stalling I mean.
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Don't know why your showing me this..
Shogun’s my boy so Griffin RNC’ing him is the way to get to me.
That being said, GSP besides the hardy fight, tries to finish his fights( I know he had those two sub’s on Hardy, but he remained inactive in trying to finish the fight besides those two sub attempts).. Just because they go to decision doesn’t mean he’s not trying.. he’s facing the best the division has to offer each time he goes out and competes.
a better gif would be the one where BJ's waving to his corner that he can't take the ass whooping anymore and has to quit.
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
haha Im not even a BJ Penn
Just a GSP hater over here
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*BJ fan
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He also hates puppies, freedom and rainbows.
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How did u know?
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everyone forgets their first fight and how GSP BARELY got out with the “W”
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on May 20, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
GSPs my boy, yo. Stop posting pics and GIFs of his lowest moments
Us ball-hangers know how to post pics too, mang!
by DH. on May 20, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 20, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Koscheck will probably end up looking exactly like Fitch did after his fight with GSP
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
keep the fight standing its not a good idea
i believe that if kos wants to keep the fight standing he will have tons of problems with GSP the best thing for kos is trade a few punches and than try to put GSP on his back of course thats not an easy thing to do but its the best shot for him, cuz if he does`nt try to do that thats exactly what GSP its gonna do to him
anyway i think its a great match up
krotchcheck
May have more power, even though ko’ing trigg and yoshida isn’t a huge accomplishment as those guys aren’t exactly standup technicians…gsp is still more accurate with his strikes…I don’t see kos landing that big right
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
by salamagogo on May 20, 2010 10:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Kos has 4 KO/TKO wins, GSP has 8
That speaks for itself in the argument of “power”. But I also agree GSP is far more accurate.
That doesn't take into account what most people see as power.
Rampage has the “one hitter quitter” power people are talking about, whereas say an Anderson Silva is more of an accumulation of strikes that KO you.(Besides a few of his fights this remains the truth). It’s much like this fight, if Kos hits him with the big overhand right cleanly, its most likely over, tho GSP could easily tko him with a nice barrage of non-ko yet powerful strikes.
Kos hit Paulo Thiago with about 6 overhand rights
And Thiago was unfazed. Yet one uppercut and a left hook from Thiago, whose striking in that fight looked basic, KO’s Kos. I think Georges has a great shot at both a TKO or 1-2 KO.
muahaha its hilarious how people think GSP will strike with Kos
Instant takedowns, 5 round decision
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It's funny you think
that GSP will get Koschek down so easily, I’m not one to buy into much shit camps say about their fighters, but I truly believe Kos was taken by surprise about GSP’s wrestling ability, GSP will have a much harder time getting him down(tho he will eventually get him down). Which means more time spent on the feet. I can see this being 50/50 with respect to time spent on the ground and the feet.
Yup, I agree
This fight has the potential to either be great, or about as boring as watching paint dry. It could go either way.
GSP will take Kos down with ease anytime he wants to.
He is much much stronger and has better wrestling no matter what credentials they tell you Kos has. Explosiveness is not even comparable. Kos will DEFINITELY not stop a takedown if GSP commits.
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I beg to differ my good friend. I think KOS suprises a lot of people in this fight.
I say the wrestling will be even. I know that’s hard to believe but KOS’ wrestling is fn insane! First fight he wasn’t ready for it, but this one he will be!
Since im already in a betting mood..
I’d make a bet with someone that Ko’s not only stuffs at least half of GSP’s takedowns but that he gets GSP on his back at least 2/3 times.
BUT GSP still wins by UD.
RayRay let's do that closer to fight time...
its like half a year till that fight, Ill forget anyways
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Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
I honestly never thought I'd see the day where I'd want GSP to win
in anyway possible. Even if its LnP. In any fashion in which he defeats Kos; Wrestling, Standing, BJJ, stalling, blanketing…shit, even Anderson Silva dancing yoru way thru…whatever…just beat him. Just get the W. Just shut him the fuck up and assure that he’ll never get another title shot as long as GSP holds the belt. PLEASE
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
I don't mind Koschek.
he embraces the roll of villain and whether people are realizing it or not he’s hyping you up for his fight with GSP ( or any fight he is in ).
yep. just like Brock is polarizing, so is Kos
it’s smart self promotion and he is a good fighter
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
yeah….seriously. is anyone actually thinking this will be a fun fight to watch?
Gatti. Dekkers. Pele. Aoki. Kang. Vanderlei. Basillio. Harry Greb.
by theworldsoldestsport on May 20, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
kos will not stop a gsp takedown.
when he thinks that GSP will stand and trade, he will be vulnerable to the takedown.
and you can be as good of wrestler as you want, when you are on your back, and there is a dominant wrestler on top of you, you are staying on your back.
l'm not afraid of anybody. Especially not Nick Diaz. -GSP
Hopefully...
Blanket vs Blanket will negate each other and they’ll stand for more than 1 minute.
Doesn't matter
Kos won’t be able to stop gsp’s takedown. I want gsp to stand for a bit and then take him down and take kos’s game to him. Show him what its like to be on his back for the whole fight and just punish him for 5 rounds. And hopefully kos doesn’t cry like a bitch when some ilegal doesn’t hit em.
by Getknockedmma1 on May 20, 2010 12:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Jacare > GSP!
I don’t care if their in dif weight classes!
by Pain on May 20, 2010 12:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Better at what?
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Jits, obviously.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
The defense would like to call Mr. Hughes to the stand as a rebuttal
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
KOS HAS TO TALK
IF YOU LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE PEOPLE THAT EACH OF THEM (KOS AND GSP) HAS FOUGHT SINCE THEIR FIRST FIGHT, IT’S NOT EVEN FAIR…KOS HAS ACTUALLY LOST TWICE SINCE THEN…GSP IS UNDEFEATED..HE WHOOPED KOS’ PARTNER AND PITBULL ETC ETC..
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