Tim Sylvia: I think I ruined Andrei Arlovski -- since I knocked him out he hasn’t been the same'
by Jesse Holland on May 18, 2010 11:08 AM EDT
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"I would imagine Strikeforce would be better for me because they would be a little more lenient with me instead of locking me down, there is a lot of things you can’t do when you fight for the UFC. With Strikeforce I could probably fight more often, the UFC has so many top guys now that they are only fighting twice a year and I don’t want to do that. I want to fight Overeem, Fedor again, Werdum is a good fight and me and Rogers would be a good fight. Arlovski I think would be [like our fight] number three again, me knocking him out. I think I ruined the poor guy, since I knocked him out he hasn’t been the same."
Former UFC Heavyweight Champion Tim Sylvia takes credit for the downward spiral that has been Andrei Arlovski's career since leaving the UFC in March 2008. "The Pitbull" is 2-3 in his post-Octagon career, having dropped three straight with two knockouts since falling to Fedor Emelianenko at Affliction: "Day of Reckoning" in January 2009 -- but was his trilogy with "The Maine-iac" the underlying cause? Or does Tim-eh want credit where it's not deserved? Opinions, please.
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Hahahah yaaa, Tim "The Career Ender" Sylvia
Nice pumping of your own tires buddy!
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 11:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Nice nickname for Sylvia.
Those losses really affected AA. Who cares?
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 18, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Michael loved MMA lol.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 18, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
STFU Tim!!! The only thing that you ruined was all of my waisted time watching you!
When I first got into MMA he was my most hated! Since then Page and Brock have taken that roll!
Nuff said
What an arsehole
A burning passion from a burning mass reaches up for the sky
by Shoguns Hairy Forearms. on May 18, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Timmy, GTFO with that crap.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Perhaps it was when Tim started dating Arlovski’s ex girlfriend?
Arlovksi to Sylvia: “How taste my pee pee?”
Don’t think so. Such situation touches differently in a man.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 18, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
How do you go from a Spartan looking manly-man to a fat trailer park lookin' circus freak?
what was she thinking????
by LeeroyJenkin$ on May 18, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
lolol
ololololol
THIS GUY HAS WORLD-CLASS JIU JITSU, GREAT WRESTLING, AND SOME OF THE BEST HANDS IN THE DIVISION - joe rogan on every fighter ever
by uncrasamatic on May 18, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
kinda true though
I was never a Sylvia fan, but he was a pretty good champion, too bad he doesn’t train seriously and is a douche!
Agree here Kev. I liked Sylvia’s style taking pictures holding his belt everywhere lol. People forget but he was destroying Big Nog until getting caught.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 18, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
He was destroying a lot of people
Till Frank busted his fore arm.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
so did everyone else nog fought lol
except courture of course.
by Andrew Keller on May 18, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
whos courture, if u mean randy then u shud rewatch it, great fight and randy did just fine..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
obviously i meant couture. and you really shouldnt give me shit when theres a u and a shud in your post.
but randy wasnt exactly whooping nogs ass like alot of other people did. thats why it was such a good fight-the ass whooping was going back and forth.
by Andrew Keller on May 18, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
srry, but randy just did’nt hit very hard and thats y he lost, other then that anyone who hits hard cud kick big nogs ass at this point because all he does it take hits and counter terribly. randy just ran into all his punches..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
Randy was getting his ass whooped from bell to bell
Don’t confuse it for anything else
by LeeroyJenkin$ on May 18, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
SF isn't interested in this ass are they?
They can’t sign him it would be an embarrassment.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Probably
Name recognition; big guy, throws hands. Yea they’d sign him.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
They'll sign him if he beats Pudz.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
disagree there
Signing him would be an embarrassment if they give him an instant shot at the title yes. But if they only sign him for one fight against AA then its kinda smart. Sylvia wins, keep him on a one fight basis, and cut AA after going 0-4. AA wins, cut Sylvia and allow AA to see if he can get passed someone decent. So long as they start neat the bottom I don’t see a problem.
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 11:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Signing a guy outside the top 40 is an embarrassment for "the second best org.". No matter what spin you try to put on it.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
look how long houston stuck around
Not like leagues don’t employ guys that aren’t contenders. A names a name. No instant title shot. No problem.
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 12:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree with worbs here
name recognition is huge! Like a team signing an aging player (say Ken Griffy JR. for instance) just to sell tickets! He’s batting 135, but puts asses in the seats.
Name recognition? Would you guys be pumped up to watch SF this weekend if Tim/AA was the headliner?
Name recognition doesn’t work when the name is recognized for being really shitty. They(SF) needs good fighters not shitty fighters that will demand top money. You know Tim isn’t going to be asking for low end payment, he’ll need to be paid around the same as a Mousasi. He definitely isn’t worth the time or money required to have him fight for you any more.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
he's fighting on small cards now
he realizes he isn’t going to get top billing/pay. he and AA wouldn’t headline. No, he’s not a big star, but mma enthusiasts know who he is (good or bad). SF would be able to get him fairly cheap, and he’d have a chance to either climb the ladder or fall into obscurity. He once was at the top, same reason a guy like Ken Shamrock or Tito Ortiz still get signed!
+1
The name is what matters… Shamrock, Gracie, Ortiz, all those names are huge sellers in MMA…It’s like Ken’s next fight with Rizzo I want to see that fight… And Tim is a decent fighter… The Ray Mercer fight was probably staged so Ray could get some money!!! Lets see how Tim does with this next fight…
Tim took a dive(and a boxers punch in the head) so that Ray could get some money...
Yep, sounds plausible to me.
Get outta here.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
thank you Jay
Tim got caught, bottom line. He even said his game plan was to take Mercer down and beat him on the ground (which I’m 100% confident he would have), just so happens if you take a punch from a legit boxer, ur more than likely going out. Kinda like what may happen to Randy!
Tito sells, I doubt SF would sign Shammy.
Do you think Tim would come fight for league minimum? That is what he deserves. If he fought for league min. I would agree with the signing.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
no
but he’ll get somewhere between 40-50k with risers (so if he wins, his next fight is worth more). SF wouldn’t sign Ken, but he and coleman are fighting next month. What I’m saying is those guys (with names) can get signed to fight!
Ken isn't fighting is he? Who does he fight for?
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
I wouldn't pay tim 40/40.
He has no chance of moving up, so why would SF bother with him? He should have to actually win a couple fights before any org. on TV even looks at him.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
I know what you're saying but look at Coleman and Baroni.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
he is Jay
he’s fighting putx, I thought he had another fight a few months ago although I’m not too sure. He’s worth more than 10k, and the fact that you didn’t know Ken is fighting Coleman surprises me since it’s been on front page a few times. A lot of former ufc guys get jobs in smaller orgs, they can be billed as “former UFC star” no matter who they are, hence putting asses in seats. Look at war machine, he’s even fighting on a regular basis!
Wait, Wait, Wait.
Coleman is fighting Ken? WTF. I haven’t been on here as much as I used to, but Coleman is fighting Ken?
Where and when? I’m serious, I hadn’t heard any of this. What organization is holding this clash of titans?
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
australian show
I think it has a few former UFC guys on it. Id actually watch this fight, battle of legends!
I want to see it. Not because I like them or think they are relevant.
I just like train wrecks.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
I know
and believe it or not (and I’m so not a fan) if Timmy would start taking mma seriously again, he’s not a bad fighter, with his height, weight and reach, he has the tools!
Because he would draw eyeballs
A Sylvia versus Rogers, Arlovski, Bigfoot, etc. fight would get more people interested and watching than a Del Rosario versus Cormier matchup, even though those guys have a brighter future.
by Pantherhare on May 18, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Tim's worth more than the "league minimum"
Whatever that is. He’s not a headliner, nor does he deserve top pay, but he’s a name and should get whatever the market is. If he loses to Pudz, then he goes into Shammy territory, where his name is so tarnished that it becomes a liability.
by Pantherhare on May 18, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Did anyone say SF should make Tim a headliner?
If so, I missed it.
by Pantherhare on May 18, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course he would be on the main card. We will be stuck watching him, headlining or not.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Main card, yes. Headliner, no.
Sylvia versus Arlovski, Bigfoot, Rogers, Werdum if he loses to Fedor, would all be decent fights for a televised SF card.
by Pantherhare on May 18, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
are you being serious here jay?
would you rather see an actual mixed martial artist (like him or not) or Bobby Lashley smash another can?
I would like to see Bobby Lashley fight Tim.
Or Lashley fight a good fighter, no more cans. That is getting annoying.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
I know that is pissing me off.
Fight one good fighter, if you suck go back to the cans. He gains nothing from being the front runner in circus fights.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
as much as I hate Tim
I’m fairly certain he’s in the top 40
Shogun lost a close decision! Everyone get crazy!
So what about the UFC re-signing Ryan Jensen???? Or Buentello????
is he top 40? and tim isn’t out of the top 40.
he would beat most of the UFC HWs…… and i mean most that aren’t top 10.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on May 18, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
correct me if im wrong
but he said if they fought again arlov would be ko’d like thier 3rd fight…i thought he got ko’d in the second fight and 3rd went to a decision…
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
3rd did go to a decision...and quite a snoozer of one too.
by Andrew Keller on May 18, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
quite a snoozer is an understatement
He lied on top of him forever. Soooo boring.
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 11:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fight 1: AA knockdown, follwed up with a heel hook
Fight 2: AA knockdown, Poopy recovers, gets up, knocks AA down and gets TKO
Fight 3: Most boring stand-up fight not involving Kaleb Starnes.
I'm a pan-handlin', man-handlin', post-holin', high-rollin', dust-bowlin' daddy
im gonna have to disagree with the most boring stand up fight not involving kalib
dude, check out gonzo’s ufc debut. UFC…56 i believe? “full force”? it was against kevin jordan, by FAAARR most boring stand up fight EVER. till gonzo superman ko’s jordan with like 30 secs left in the third lol.
by Andrew Keller on May 18, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
"Go HOME! Go HOME! Go HOME!"
Lol never heard a crowd say that before. Jordans punch rocked Gabe too. They both hit each other hard! Just Gabe had quicker recovery. Funny crowd antics though.
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 12:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and if you recall worbs...
i think joe sliva slipped a note to rogan and he started laughing about it. id love to know what that note said. but yes, jordans punch did rock gonzo.
by Andrew Keller on May 18, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
and good luck on that fedor rematch, tim
cause the first one was sooooo close
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
hahaha
yeah, maybe Leben should start vying for that AS rematch too……..
by LeeroyJenkin$ on May 18, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
When does he fight Pudz?
I forget.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Friday?
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WOW
Look at how skinny Tim Sylvia use to be! Damn.
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Gettin off roids is a bitch.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
I wonder how much the disbanding of Team Militech had to do with him going to shit?
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
Regardless of him saying it, it is true!!!
AA has been nothing more than a punching bag since Tim kicked his ass!! AA kinda just stayed the same and everyone else evolved. I think AA had to much of the good life and totally lost what heart he had, if he had any to begin with.
really tim?
because after the 3rd fight with you hean won 5 straight. Maybe it was the Fedor ko? fuck off, ray mercer beat you, you should permanantyl stuck on the regional circuit.
Loyality before Reality
Definitely not the Fedor KO, that was just a little while ago,
AA has been a can for about the last 5 years!!! That said, lets not forget about how good a boxer he is LOL!!!!! being a better boxer you would think he wouldnt get KO’d so much. what a joke this guy is. Whats even funnier is how many of you think he is still relavent lol!!! Im convinced that 95% of the people on this forum have been watching MMA for less than a year and or are under the age of 21!!!!!!!
Ok!!!!! That's good to know!!!!!!!! Thanks for sharing!!!!!!! LOL :)!!!!!!!
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, HeelHook. You just went over a cliff on that one.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
My thoughts exactly.........
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
OJR, How do you figure I jumped off a cliff?
By stating the obvious, if you have been watching MMA for more than a couple of years then you would know that AA was severly badass until he got owned by Tim Sylvia and has not been the same since. Its not a story or my opinion, its the facts. Why I would say under 21, look at some of the nonsense that gets spewed on this forum. Anyone that thinks AA is still a legitimate threat doesnt get it. OJR youve been around here for awhile man you should get it, Im surprized at your comment.
Johnny WF,
this isnt the grammer section dude, so if you need to feel smart by correcting people maybe you should go teach 2nd grade English as grammer is not held at a very high standard around here. Do I need to point out the obvious again lol!
hahaha
i literally laughed out loud when i saw that.
nice lol
by LeeroyJenkin$ on May 18, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Spell "relevant" correctly
Capitalize shit. Use apostrophes. Realize that your perceived intelligence is inversely proportional with the number of exclamation points you use. Consider that “cans” don’t kick the crap out of Ben Rothwell, Roy Nelson, and Fabricio Werdum.
And when you’re done, shove it up your ass.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
Yeah Tim .....
I much rather see arlovski lose than see your boring fat statute get dropped by passed their prime boxers! !!!
by pugilista2010 on May 18, 2010 1:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Joke
Timmy is a joke! At a point the guy was awkward and managed to win fights, but the mma game has evolved so much in the last 3/5 years!! Timmy got picked apart and floored by a guy who was on a comeback from retirement at the tender age of 44 I think? Moreover how many people has randy floored in his last 8 fights?!!!
AA on his day is a better fighter IMO however both guys are far from being near the top, since all the other guys have came through…I’d watch it tho
by the real mo on May 18, 2010 1:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
agreed to an extent
Timmy was a deent striker and proved against Monson that he has good take down defense. I don’t think he was expecting what Randy came with, and it’s been down hill from there!
Yeah I think he just got lazy and becasue of that became complacent with his training and never improved if anything declined. With AA I think it’s more mental.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
agree on both
Timmy was on top of the world, and with that comes the thinking you are invincible. Some guys bounce back, others have to hit rock bottom and limb the ladder again,
AA is mental to the point where he may just be done. It’s too bad, but also if boxing is his strong suit, it’s pretty pathetic to see a guy thats not that good in the stand up dominate him like that.
AA and Cro Cop both need sports psychologists.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
How many fights does sylvia have wtf
2010-06-04 Wes Sims IFC Perfect Storm Halifax, Canada For IFC Championship
2010-05-21 Mariusz Pudzianowski Moosin: God of Martial Arts Worchester, Massachusetts Superheavyweight bout
isnt there some type of suspension after one fight?
lmmfao
Wow thanks for the laugh tim , you fucking joke. The ufc would not even take you back you dumb idiot . You got ktfo in 10 seconds
Fuck my life
RESTORE THE ROAR 2010 Detroit Lions
Shut your pie hole Tim!!!
I think strikforce is the best place for him right now. Depending on how he looks against pudz cuz I think pudz is smash the big poopster.
by d*locc on May 18, 2010 3:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
yeah tim...... EXCEPT
that he went on to beat up Roy Nelson and Big Ben after that. Not to mention he “beat” Werdum. Honestly, i don’t think AA is “ruined”, he’s just getting passed up by the new standard for top level HWs…… Thats all.
Tim is a moron that talks out his azz.
AA is not ruined. And the whole AA has no chin is garbage. Big foot hit AA with some good solid shots and he took them. I think AA need to switch camps and go to ATT or go to Mark Dels camp and train. FTW Pitbull…come back stronger and on top…..
I like bacon
Riiiiiiight
Because he kicked the crap out of five/six people after you, he’s broken.
If anyone broke him mentally, it was Fedor. Not you, dipshit.
Anderson Silva will fall via brutal Republican dry-humping.
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