Alistair Overeem: There is nobody else out there with speed and technical ability to beat Fedor but me
by Jesse Holland on May 18, 2010 9:30 AM EDT
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"I surround myself with people who have the same attitude, intelligent people which you can learn from and develop yourself. In the gym my sparring partners don't really like me. There's nobody else out there with the speed, technical ability and the sharpness [to beat Fedor]. I know how to turn myself into a very dangerous weapon."
Defending Strikeforce Heavyweight Champion Alistair Overeem comes off a quick technical knockout over Brett Rogers at "Heavy Artillery" last Saturday night (May 15) and now sets his sights on the elusive but still top ranked heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko. "The Reem" returned to the states after a two year performance to impressive results -- but was it enough to convince the fans that he's the right guy to topple "The Last Emperor?"
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Could happen
Someone will beat Fedor in the future, thats a given. Overeem can definetly do it if he connects. I still take fedor in this one.
"i know how to turn myself into a very dangerous weapon"
does it involve a needle in your ass?
Loyality before Reality
lol nice one
I thought the exact same thing
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
not to be picky bud
but you forgot to delete the lesnar line on top… thats gotta go!
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
by Bigger Zino on May 18, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmm I don't recall that in the agreement...
Fine… i’ll do it. My previous bets I could keep whatever I had and just added the sig choice when I lost. So not used to emptying first, no biggie though.
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
cool
:)
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
by Bigger Zino on May 18, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I cant' wait to watch this later on. BIRTHDAY KING !
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
by Bigger Zino on May 18, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
r u sure????
lets just wait till this guy past the test…….
If he tests positive in the test Strikeforce ordered, they would never report it anyways
fuckin bullshit, all the talk before and the commission doesn’t even test him. It’s a fuckin joke.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
as egotistical as that sounds, i somewhat agree
But more because I’d rather see him an fedor as opposed to fedor vs anyone else right now…we all brock would immediately go for the takedown, because that’s what he is good at. I’d rather watch someone who can do it all
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
by salamagogo on May 18, 2010 9:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Im happy that
Brett Rogers is out of the top 10 list. Overeem wooped on him like a kid in the playground. HATE ROGERS
hes the GG of strikeforce w/out the ground game
he serves his purpose well now give him bigfoot or an AA rematch so pitbull can get revenge
Loyality before Reality
though i dont sharte your same passion,
I always knew he was hyped..but it was easy to believe after arlov and putting fedor in a bit of trouble..it was just to early for grim.( All my hate is reserved for the most deserving, crock, I mean brock)
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
by salamagogo on May 18, 2010 9:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
cancel the Werdum fight!!!
put in Overeem… Fedor is getting worse in every fight, lets see him in some mega fights before he starts to rapidly decline
this fight better happen
I can’t bloody wait for it! Should be September’ish if it goes off without a hitch.
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 9:39 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
september...
You are more optimistic than I, daniel..but I hope you are right
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
by salamagogo on May 18, 2010 9:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd say closer to December. Fedor isn't going to fight in June then three months later. I'm sure Finkledink will want to re-re-negotiate the contract again.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
well like i said "without a hitch"
That would place it late September’ish. I’m gonna be optimistic, but yea, with Overeem’s tendency to not show up (once since Dec 07) and Fedors camp being so weird, it will be a tough one, but who knows.
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 9:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol oh! and Werdum... lol whoops
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 9:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i see your december and raise you 2-3 months
I say m1 dicks around, with alistair being so dangerous and all….. alistair gets tired of waiting an takes a fight in japan/elsewhere…maybe this fight seems almost too good to be true for me to believe its gonna happen fast..like chuck/wandy back in the day( I know, different orginizations…just sayin)
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
by salamagogo on May 18, 2010 9:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Overeem will fight in Japan regardless
…of when Fedor and his crew was ready to fight I think. Overeem loves to fight, and fight often. He’ll probably have 2-3 more fights before Fedor anyways.
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was not a big Overeem fan until this fight....
I dont know… I had never listened to any of his interviews or anything. I had only seen Pride fights and obviously heard the steroids rumors…..I thought he was good but I wouldnt have called myself a fan of his.
but after listening to a bunch of his interviews I def like the guy. He seems to be pretty smart and relaxed. And I tend to like that in fighters.
There is no doubt that he has juiced in the past though…. but yet I still like the dude…..
Im conflicted. lol
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I'm with you. Although I wouldn' t call myself a fan. I am definitely impressed with his skill set.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
I think the number of juicers is MUCH higher than most think..its just more visible in some fighters than others…any physical sport at the top level is gonna have PED’s being used…I’d be willing to bet people would be downright shocked to see the #‘s…but it’ll never happen so…….
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
by salamagogo on May 18, 2010 9:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed 100%. Its not hating if its the truth.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
i just hope and pray my boy GSP isnt on them
i’d hate to think an idol of mine cheated his way to the top.
by Andrew Keller on May 18, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
the nicest man in sports?
All you’d have to do is ask GSP. GSP doesn’t lie. GSP doesn’t make mistakes. If someone asked GSP would just answer. He lies to nobody, because he’s perfect.
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
GSP's a chump
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
^that^
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
Odamn, you spelt "amazing champion" wrong...
by Andrew Keller on May 18, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
That he did.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
we all know what this is a case of guys
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 10:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd love Joe to comment on this pic... whats up with that look
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
by Bigger Zino on May 18, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Georges farted in his face.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
lol me too
Either he is indeed jealous, as he used to be a huge Hughes sucker.
Or, perhaps felt a sneeze coming on? Lol nothing worse then the “I’m gonna sneeze” feeling, especially when you end up not being rewarded with a sneeze after.
Or, one of those two just dropped ass and Rogan walked right into it, and had to stand and endure it.
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 11:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the sneeze idea crossed my mind too
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
by Bigger Zino on May 18, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Fedor will show
once again that he is on another level. The last Fedor fight may not have been so impressive, but it was his first cage fight. Overeem will be punished real bad – The Iceman and Shogun dealt with him – The Last Emperor will nail him!
Go wikipedia Overeem and look at his last 10 MMA fights
If you’re impressed with the comp he’s been fighting then something’s wrong with you.. Not that he’s not a beast but I really don’t think he’s going to be the one to dethrone Emelianenko.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:00 AM EDT reply actions
Overeem sucks because his opponents suck? I think you lost me.
Go look at Fedors first 15 MMA opponents, he must suck too.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
LOL
I’m not talking about his first 10 MMA opponents, I’m talking about his last 10. His record’s still inconsistent at best; look at it, can = win; second he runs into a decent fighter you can just put the loss up there. It’s academic the diff between the two is Fedor beat all the cans AND all the good fighters that were put in front of him.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Well since you choose to judge fighters based on their opponents I am too. Fedor's first 15 opponents were horrible.
Therefore Fedor must also be horrible.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Who has Fedor lost to again? Overeem has 11 losses?? O right.. that's right...
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Which fight were you impressed with Fedor in again?
He looked good against big poopy, that’s it. He was losing to that fat guy from Sams club and was being outstruck by AA. Overeem takes it to him the way either of those guys did and Fedor sleeps with the fishes. You know it and everyone knows it.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
lol outstruck by arlofski... hilarious everytime I read it
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
He was losing that 50 seconds of the fight.
He landed one punch and it happened to catch AA. He looked slow and fat in that fight, lucky for him AA doesn’t know how to win.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
muahahaha keep going, I am laughing my ass off
losing 50 seconds? Are you listening to yourself as you type?
next thing you will tell me is he was in danger and had Fedor not landed the punch he would have been done… WOW
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
No but AA doesn't have the power to KO anyone.
If that had been Overeem hitting him and not AA t would have been lights out. AA is shit and he was having his way with your idol.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
I know you don't even believe what you are saying...
Kinda like I don’t believe what I say about GSP sometimes. Bias is everything hehe… It’s all good. We will just wait and see.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
Maybe a little of both, freenow.
You know me, I don’t like Fedor.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Hehe forsure I know how it is...
I just hope that this one actually happens… I am really annoyed by M1 bullshit and Overeem’s lack of SF/US fights. Both sides are fuckin annoying as hell.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
he hadn't gained the striking advantage yet
…because Fedor doesn’t outstrike guys, he out waits their confidence. He only requires one shot. So when getting out jabbed all he does is back peddle for a moment or two to wait til you drop a hand or move it to throw a jab while he gets his timing right to unleash a hell bomb.
Look at his KO of Rogers, he threw that shot (One of hardest I have EVER seen) from about a foot in front of his waist! He didn’t even wind up! Incredible.
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 10:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No way he can.
Overeem would put him to sleep if Fedor tried it.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
oh i dont doubt
…Overeem has the striking to do so. If he locks a clinch on Fedor it could be one knee too many. But I don’t count Fedor out like you guys seem to. “No way he can”, well yes actually he can. Its not as if he will stand there and simply absorb Overeems with no retaliation. He is able to do so against a guy like AA because he wasn’t being rocked. Now if he’s getting rocked he may be forced to attempt more punches or a clinch of his own. He’s not where he is from having no gameplans.
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 10:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gameplans?
He is where he is despite NEVER having a game plan. He just wings it.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
now im starting to question how many of his bouts you've seen
In the time it took him to armbar Choi you can clearly see him attempt two takedown sweeps that fail due to Choi’s size but he clearly knew he was gameplanning to do that, then he attempts and arm bar from his back, fails, makes it back up, Choi gets the mount again, and Fedor uses his same gameplan to sink the armbar.
^^Gameplan^^
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Pride debut vs Schilt
Clinch, sweep, GnP rinse repeat.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Soooo.....
He used a game plan 8 years ago to beat the worlds biggest can. Good for you worby.
What was his game plan against AA and Rogers? Get punched in the face a bunch of times then land one punch? Good planning. Taking Rogers and AA down to negate their one strength would be game planning. GSP wouldn’t stand with Hardy because that is what game planning is.
I’ve watched every Fedor fight he’s ever been in. They were all free on John G’s website.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate Fedor fans, not Fedor.
Are you saying that you are successful?
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
You know me, I don’t like Fedor.
by jay , half an hour ago
LOL I couldn’t help myself
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
LOL
the shame Jay. The shame.
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
by Bigger Zino on May 18, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn, you caught me.
I don’t like Fedor or his fans. I was trying to keep that under wraps.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Yea imo I'm doin pretty good for myself
lol
And I’m not really much of a Fedor fan, you could back track and find plenty of posts from me that are negative about Fedor. I just don’t see your white knight Overeem being the one to dethrone him.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
He just may be.
Werdum certainly won’t be the one and I don’t see Fedor fighting anyone better than Overeem. So Overeem is our best hope.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
he'll do it
Fedor could maybe catch him or anyone with the big overhand right – he’s still got great timing.
But how does he weather the storm like he did with Rogers against a guy like the Reem.
It’s just hard to imagine that as Fedor gets older a new young guy won’t knock him off. Alistair is proving to be a massive challenge.
He’s the only real hope out of the UFC ranks.
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
by Bigger Zino on May 18, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what I'm saying, but with a lot of trolling peppered in there...
I think I started hating Fedor around the 50th time I read “fedor is god”.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Ah I see now...
You simply don’t like to hear the truth :)
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
Fedor is a God
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Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 11:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Try 2001. I've been hating on Fedor for a long time.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
haha the fedor nutthuggers r getting all pissy on u jay..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
i've always wanted to pissy on jay
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 11:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
but i like u dan so its all good if u piss on jay even thoguh hes awsome too..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
I'd take a shit on daniels chest if I ever met him.
Because he deserves it!
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
We going by overall record? Carreer wise?
I was impressed when he out struck CC; impressed when he GnP’d Nog from inside his guard and wasn’t even close to getting subbed twice; pretty impressed with the comeback sub on Randleman after being dropped on his head.
I was pretty impressed with Shogun when he tko’d Overeem twice. Pretty impressed when Chuck knocked his ass out cold. Pretty impresed when lil Nog TKO’d his ass. Definatley impressed when Sergei KO’d him.
Like I said, they’ve BOTH fought cans the difference being Fedor beat the cans + the good fighters they put in front of him.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
well put
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
Fedor & GSP are my faves but
…I can’t be bias and say Overeem’s last 10 MMA opponents sucked, without pointing out the obvious. Go look how many K1 fights he’s had the last 18-24 mos. Whether some of them are questionable (most of them certainly are not) he is competing more then any fighter with a high profile name by far!
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 10:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
True but Badr Hari just KO'd his ass in Dec. of 09
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
Losing to Hari in a kickboxing match is not a fail.
It is to be expected.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
thats true...so being destroyed in the first by Fedor will not be a fail either...
it’s to be expected. Bot for some reason people seem to have illusions for another outcome.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
Fedor's luck has to run out sooner or later.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
He isn't the best at anything in the HW division. And as history has shown most of the PRIDE guys are not as good without the roids.
Not saying Fedor was on roids(maybe donuts though) but PRIDE is dead and so is most of its fighters.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Overeem was a Pride fighter Jay...
lol
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Not one of the original old schoolers. He fought there a few times but that wasn't where he was in his prime.
When I talk PRIDE fighters I mean the Wands, CC, Fedor, Nogs of the world. Not the Andy’s, Overeem’s.
Those guys didn’t hit their stride until after PRIDE was done.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Yea and go back and look at how he did in PRIDE
he got his ass kicked… if the Pride guys are done then Overeem is past done.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. This was 5 years ago when the REEM was a kid.
He’d kill CC, Nog, Fedor, Randleman all of the HW’s from PRIDE.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
You do realize 5 years ago he was 25 and Fedor was 28???
And that he was already 16-4 when Chuck knocked him out clean? Oh well.. I look forward to watching him fail some more.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Now Fedor is on the down side of his fighting career.
25 isn’t even fighting prime age.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Now he's 30 and Fedor's 33
Overeem’s 30 years old, 33-11, between K-1 and MMA he’s been KO’d/TKO’d a crap load. Fedor’s 33 maybe approaching the downside of his carreer; 31-1 (and we all know the 1 loss is garbage tko on a cut). Never been KO’d and never been subbed. Now all the sudden Overeem’s gonna steam roll him? Riiiiiiggghhhtt…. sometimes you guys are too funny .
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Like it isn't possible?
Gretzky is 45, 6 Stanley cups, 4 Gold medals, 51 unbroken records, 6 scoring championships….
Crosby 2 scoring championships, 2 gold medals, 1 stanley cup and zero records.
Times change, I bet Crosby can beat Wayne in a one-on-one game.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Never said it was impossible
I just don’t see how Overeem is the favorite here.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn't Shogun beat the crap outta Overeem?
Shogun would still kick his ass today!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
A LOT of people have beaten the crap out of Overeem
The Fedor hero’s could definatley do with a better fighter to champion their cause.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
"The Fedor Haters" **
wow fuck me..
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't care about what he did 5 years ago.
Brock Lesnar was in the WWE 5 years ago, hence he has no chance? What have they done for me lately? MMA changes every day.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
This conversation should be in that fanpost where history is being revised.
Legacy of your favorite fighter or some shit like that.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Nobody is revising history. I know Fedor is number one and he deserves that spot.
But he can and will lose. He hasn’t looked good in most of his wins and if he ends up getting hit by someone like Overeem there will be no late comeback.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Got to call you on the first 15 fighters thing...
Fedor beat -
Ricardo Arona
Renato Sobral
Semmy Schilt
Heath Herring
Antonio Nogueira
amongst his first 15 – despite what you might think, none of these are “cans”.
Who’s the No.1 Heavyweight to you Jay? Brock? (Who couldn’t even finish Herring with a broken orbital – who was stopped by Fedor a long time back…).
I’ll admit Fedor hasn’t looked amazing recently but he rarely has looked that great when you look back over his fights, he’s patient and tactical, skilled and powerful – that’s what wins him fights, not blasting people from the bell. He’s only ever even been rocked once and he destroyed said guy within about 30 seconds of that…
You'll have to show me where I said Fedor isn't number one.
Here’s a hint, you won’t find it.
He is number one, he’s also beatable.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
He is beatable, in theory...
But no-one’s done it yet. I just hope he gets to fight a few more top names before he’s past it. The thing is if he loses one fight all will say he’s finished and it was all hype – whereas every PFP champion out there has losses.
Fedor’s become a victim of his own success and other’s hyping him.
Fedor’s become a victim of his own success
Interesting!
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
by Bigger Zino on May 18, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Minor Correction
Fedor was rocked twice in his career. Once by Fujita, and the other time was by Crocop.
"The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes." – Winston Churchill
All I know is this. Fedor's age + natural erosion of all professional athletes + "horsemeat" + Overeem's good skill set = strong possibility for an upset.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
It has to be labeled an upset. Overeem has lost to good fighters while Fedor has dominated good fighters. I think Father Time gets to Fedor through Overeem.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Yea I'm not ruling it out
I think he’s got a great shot; but I still think the edge goes to Fedor being the more well rounded fighter.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Fedor skills > Overeem's skills. No doubt. But the age factor is a bitch.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Fedors skills<Overeem skills.
What does Fedor do better? Sambo never comes into play. Overeem is bigger, stronger and better standing(by a mile) do you think Fedor could take him down and sub him?
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
"What does Fedor do better?"
EVERYTHING except striking. And yes I think that’s exactly what will happen; clinch, throw/inside trip, GnP to armbar, OR Overeem gets top position tries to tee off and gets subbed by armbar. And I’ve seen Fedor throw up the armbar easily from top or bottom position. It doesn’t matter, the second it hits the ground, it’s a wrap.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I miss Fedor's gn'p. Expect to watch it in action versus Werdum and then Overeem.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 18, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
fedor has been at a techincal striking disadvantage plenty of times in the past
(CC, AA) and proven that it doesnt matter, by outstriking and KO ing these guys. and sambo always comes inro play, its part of his flow, his hip tosses and submissions all come from sambo. and yes fedor can take him down and sub him very realistic jay
Loyality before Reality
Good point.
And many would consider CC a better striker at that time than Overeem today. It’s a close fight if it ever happens I’ll take Fedor but won’t be surprised if Overeem takes it.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
You sick of Fedor and his fans too?
I usually don’t have a lot of help in my anti-Fedor rants.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Yea I am!!! I don't think much of Fedor, but to fans he's the best thing since sliced bread!
If he went to the UFC I would be impessed with him going 50/50.
who is this slice bread guy you talking about?
he must be amazing if he is mentioned with Fedor in the same sentence as his precursor
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
LMAO!!! Funny bc when I wrote it, I"m like, what's so fn great abouot sliced bread???
I can think of a million things better! Airconditioning being one of them! I know you Canadians don’t need it as much as we do, but damn I would die without it! And there wouldn’t be a Las Vegas!
haha i know such a silly saying
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
plus K1 rules are very different
I watched that one live. He definitely flash ko’d him but if it were MMA and not for the fact of the 3 knockdown rule/one knee down equals a knockdown, he very well may have recovered in time while in a barrage of punches/kicks. But not taking anything away from Badr Hari, he is incredible and super entertaining.
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 10:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fedor v Overeem if it happens...
I think will happen around December, I think Strikeforce may try and stick this fight to the UFC by going up against GSP v KOS…..I know which one I’d rather watch…!!
Sorry man
I’m one of the biggest SF nut huggers around here, and I want nothing more then for them to make it big! But they would never intentionally rival any UFC card. Their ratings are already mediocre at best. I feel they are good ratings for how unknown the league is to most, but the fact is a Fedor fight still doesn’t rival a title defense from the UFC.
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 10:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
On reflection your right...
Though there is even talk of this being SF’s first PPV if it happens………I didn’t mean that SF would go head to head with UFC on the same night though, everybody loses there…!
I just find a Fedor Reem fight way more interesting that Kos GSP….It’s not like GSP KOS 1 was close or anything….I think we can all safely predict the outcome of that one…not so much the other
by Clive Barnes on May 18, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
i can agree on that. kos isn't going to beat gsp
…but GSP and Fedor are my fave two fighters so I would hate that on same night (and like we agree that won’t happen), but I need to see both live, even though the outcome of Fedor/Overeem definitely has the larger potential for surprise.
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 11:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He’s the man to beat Fedor until get destroyed by the Russian. Then another man will get into the track and we know the end of the history again. Alistair deserves it. I wish him the best luck. Fedor doesn’t need it though.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
There's no way Fedor agrees to this fight.
Overeem is too dangerous an opponent for him. Look at what Rogers was doing to him, then look at what the REEM did to Rogers.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
I agree Jay, Overeen is too good! I don't know what the odds would be but I would put some good money on Overeem!
But yea I don’t see this happening!
Too strong, too skilled and too big for the fat russian.
And thats the TRUTH of it.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
if i didnt know that you were saying all this just to mainly piss off the fedor fans (john) id be getting a little riled up
Loyality before Reality
It's a little of both bren. I hate his fans so much(not john) that I want to see him destroyed.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
thats the thing though
Fedor “colemans” guys. He almost plays possum, by absorbing punishment and sitting there in this trance, almost as if in his head he’s saying “Wait, wait, wait, THERE!”, then the guys out.
I know it makes no difference now but people are talking about how easy Overeem took Rogers? Look back to the first round of Fedor/Rogers. There’s a 2 punch combo that whistles passed Rogers by about an inch. There is so much force behind it that Rogers must of thought to MLB pitches whizzed by his head. It could’ve ended that much faster, and connection from Fedor is disastrous.
Worbtimus Prime
by daniel worby on May 18, 2010 10:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’ll put some money on Fedor. Guarantee of beers for free.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 18, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
With all due respect Eduardo...
Fedor needs it too….Just look at all the negative comments about how he’s avoiding the big fights…the whole world wants and thinks he needs to step up…beating Overeem would silence a lot of that talk…..but Fedor hasn’t fought anyone of true worth in 3 years…..IMO Fedor avoids this fight too…..Fedor isn’t the monster he was judging by his last few fights and I think he and M! know it…right now they are cashing in on his record, his past and his mystique……….I’m a huge Fedor fan and would love nothing more than see him KO 5 or 6 top heavy weights over the next 2 years but it ain’t gonna happen because they’ll avoid the likes of Overeem because at this stage if Fedor looses to Overeem the whole world of doubters will be proven right….
BTW Lesner is done for Carwin will win this fight :)
by Clive Barnes on May 18, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone's high on Overeem now cause he had a good performance
But watch Fedor beat him and all this will change to how “Overeem was just an overrated can.”
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 18, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Totally.
I still like how Arlovski and Sylvia are “overrated cans” as they were both recent UFC champions when Fedor fought them – can say what you like about them being in decline but they were still legit and Fedor destroyed Timmay like no-one had done before.
Jay’s MMA Maths is flawed too – saying Overeem is better because he beat Rogers faster is idiotic – Rogers beat Arlovski faster than Fedor did too and look how that worked out…
Hey guys!
I also want this bout but Fedor is Fedor and is the favorite for this fight despite Overeem victories in a row. I don’t agree Fedor is afraid of the Dutch. Is he tall, heavier and stronger, OK, but I remind you all that the Last Emperor beat Cro Cop on his prime and Mirko was by far better than Overeem comparing both top moments in their respective career. This is the fight that makes sense, I agree, but Fedor still is the man to be beat and Alistiar recognizes it.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
Mega Fight
It will be Overeem crushing Fedor. The actual Mega fight will be Brock vs Overeem
brock wud eat overeem alive. brock wud be way 2 strong 4 him an way 2 smart. vereem will get out wrestled an end up gettin confused and den ground and pounded out. brock winning round 2 tko
real deal? the guy is an oversized bag of steroid juice. (don't mind my sig, I lost a bet)
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
LOL
Are did Rogers look good against a sub par AA and decent agaisnt Fedor who was playing with him? Many of us might of had Rogers overrated, time will tell but Rogers against Big Foot sounds like a possible future fight? Regardless Overeem looks to be the best contender for Fedor outside the UFC anyway.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
that is truth. I'd like to see Juicereem fight Barnett in Japan though... I think Josh would take him anyways
And then the annoying questions would stop
The Demolition Man Rises! I am but a fool non believer. I’m so sorry BZ and NNR – Apparently Horsemeat sandwhiches do make you a F*n Destroyer!
Uberreem > Brock & Fedor in 2011.
Think before u speak
Every one on here probably doesn’t even see overeem fight. Unless u have Hdnet then u speak. He’s a beast in k-1 and dream. Whens the last time u seen some one submit some1 with a standing guilltoine. He’s dangerous any where the fight goes with fedor. Overeem is going to smash anyone strikeforce puts in front of him.
by Getknockedmma1 on May 18, 2010 1:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Overeem>Fedor
Yes he must be on steroids because he is ripped for a heavyweight? Stop moaning about it hes a great fighter and id put my money on him beating Fedor, ive lost nearly all interest and respect for Fedor now.
" My style is Whoop that ass" - Rampage Jackson
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