Andrei Arlovski: 'I'm 15-8 right now and it's horrible'
by Jesse Holland on May 17, 2010 2:00 PM EDT
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"I feel kind of upset because I put down my trainers. We had a great camp. I don't know, after 11 months (out of action) it's kind of hard to come back, but I think I did okay. I took his couple of shots on my chin. I guess I showed the fans my chin's not weak. It was a tough fight. He's tough. It just wasn't my night. Right now I'm focused on my MMA career because when I took the fight on short notice against Brett Rogers my mind was focused on my pro boxing and as a result he knocked my ass out in less than 20 seconds. Of course I wanted to box, but in MMA I have three losses in a row. I'm 15-8 right now and it's horrible. I just have to train I guess even harder and try to fight even harder. I feel great. I could fight maybe tomorrow. It's up to Scott Coker. I want to fight, fight, fight."
A disappointed Andrei Arlovski reflects on his losing performance against Antonio Silva at Strikeforce: "Heavy Artillery" last Saturday night (May 15) in St. Louis. The former UFC Heavyweight Champion has pretty much hit rock bottom, having dropped three consecutive bouts -- two of them under the Strikeforce banner. "The Pitbull" vows to be back and Scott Coker sounds more than happy to have him, but can the Belarusian recapture the mojo that made him one of the sport's most popular fighters?
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lol
look at that face. He looks like my dog did when he was a puppy and he tinkled on the floor.
AA vs Brett Rogers II. why not.
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
lets get Lashley into that mix
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
good call Mac. I forgot about Mr.TNA Wrassling.
I’d like to see it.
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
I would like to see Lashley vs. Overeem just to see whose supplier has the best stuff...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on May 17, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you don't quit do you... Horsemeat... it works!
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
Yes, incredible how the wonders of horsemeat has transformed the French into a nation of muscle bound ass kickers! :)
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I think ur off on this OJR, and keep making the point
It doesn’t matter what I think about Overeem, all I can go on is his track record. He doesn’t fail tests. I would say a high percentage of guys in all sports use some sort of PED, more than likely HGH since it helps the healing process best and is undetectable in normal drug screens. Baseball proved that even guys you wouldn’t expect to use, used. To call out one guy because he simply got bigger isn’t fair in my mind. Over the course of 3 years it is 100% feasible to put on that kind of muscle mass. I know guys that have done it cleanly, not to mention it’s part of Overeem’s job. As a disclaimer, I’ll say I’m not a real fan either!
I don't think that I am off. For the record, I am not a hater. If athletes in sports like MLB used then it would stand to reason that men in combat sports also juice. Not really an unfair assumption. People know how to pass tests, that means nothing.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
but can you admit that it's not impossible to accomplish
what Overeem has with hard work and discipline.
There is equal % chance that you are wrong in insinuating his use of steroids as my % chance of defending he hasn’t abused them.
Kev’s right:
all I can go on is his track record
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
Not downplaying his skill, BZ. And I think your reasoning is very sound but also highly unlikely.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Personally I don't care if they do roid
Cause taking steroids doesn’t mean you can put on that guys gloves and shorts; walk into a cage and start knocking people out.. Doesn’t work that way.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I want roids to be legal and widely used to improve performance of athletes
but everyone is on some nonsensical bible thumping witch hunt.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on May 17, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know about that
I don’t want MMA or anything to turn into a league of super soldiers.
Unless they had their own division.. then that could be fun
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
I wish they'd just make it legal to the public
Regulate the sports; test and disqualify as you see fit, but if someone wants to suppliment a work out with steroids for purely cosmetic purposes; who gives a damn??
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I used to think like that too but if roids didn't help then why take them?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
?? What you mean didn't help??
Someone doesn’t know what they’re doing then =P
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
They do help but fighters always say one thing that rings in my ear..
“Fighting is 90%/100% mental”; so all I’m sayin is Justin McCully can take all the roids he wants, he’ll never be a top 10 guy. The game planning/technique/heart/preparation just isn’t there. Of course there’s gonna be benefits; but it doesn’t mean that just cause he takes roids and beefs up to 265 lbs that he’s gonna out wrestle Brock Lesnar all the sudden.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Also just as an example to add the the McCully example
Tito Ortiz could roid the hell out and still suck balls.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Steroids helps you mentally!!!
Without a doubt! When you’re on the stuff you feel invincable! You feel like you could do anything! It’s def not just the strength advantage, much more than that.
Yea but after 2 rds of getting beat on I think reality would set in
If you’re a mentally weak person to begin with; they arent’ going to make you iron clad. Like I said, it might help, but it doesn’t mean it could make Charles McCarthy out tough Wanderlei Silva.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I think knowing that you’re never going to get tired is the best confidence builder.
someone else's success brings pain.
and that was really the difference between the brazilians back in Pride and the other’s. they came out wild and never stopped.
someone else's success brings pain.
It's like if Tito Ortiz took steroids
he’d still be a little bitch basically.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Wrong ODamn! Steroids makes all excusses legit! LOL
Damn! I use to be a fan! As a fan I put up with a lot of shit! But when he actually said, “my face was broken” I had enough! I no longer can be a fan of his!
haha, if Tito took steroids he’d be unbeatable kinda like GSP, nobody would be able to stop his takedowns.
someone else's success brings pain.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Hilarious.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
If you want to see what happens when steroid use is allowed look at pro wrestling
The mortality rate in that industry is obscene, most of those guys don’t live much past 40 especially those from the 80s era when everyone took steroids. There has been so many health problems for these guys that it would be wrong for any sporting organisation to allow their talent to take steroids regularly. Unless you want to see a lot of early deaths in MMA then you should not be in favour of steroids being used in the sport. Safety should be more important than performance and steroids are proven killers.
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
Steroids when used properly are not the cause of health problems
You can go look at these guys, they’re punishing the hell out of their bodies day in and day out, fake or not, getting cut with razors, hit with chairs, and jumping 10 feet into the air and eating canvas is not good for your body. Steroids are not “proven killers” that’s media hype, they have been demonized because of proffessional sports.
You can sit here all day and say “Ciggarretts are proven killers” “Alchohal is a proven killer” “too much sun bathing causes skin cancer, sun bathing is a proven killer” etc… Steroids will put strain on the heart when used to excess, they will cause permanent imbalances in hormones when abused; like anything else, any other substance or activity it is up to the individual using to be responsible.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
absolutely ridiculous statement!!
here goes cancers can form of the liver,hormonal and reproductive systems.severe liver conditions such as peliosishepatitis,blood cysts on the liver.complete mental hormonal overhaul which can lead to depression,schizophrenia,complete personality change.heart attacks,strokes ,blood clots in the lungs.wow yeah they are safe as hell.its got nothing to do with the amount used,its the individual.whats safe for one person could be extremely harmful to another hence even small amounts could be extremely lethal
Steroids if administered properly just like they are everyday by doctors....
can help the overall athlete and eliminate injuries and most importantly gassed HWs. I just wanna see fighters in peak condition and it is possible.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on May 17, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Quick google search refutes your argument
The Center for Disease Control lists the number of deaths due to anabolic androgenic steroids at 3 per year.
Yes, 3.
yes, and these deaths occur because people either take way too much, stay on cycle for way too long(Indefinitely), take fake steroids, or dont use clean needles and get infection.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
plus career ending injuries are commonplace
because muscles get stronger quicker than ligaments so people end up lifting way too much to quick and destroy their ligaments.im not an ante steroid warrior but the cons far outwight the pros imo.
That's misuse again
in a 6 week cycle you might put on 8 lbs of muscle with proper diet and exercise. The negative results you’re talking about are a rarity if we’re talking about a person that understands what they’re doing.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's some side effects on a legal drug
-black, bloody, or tarry stools;
-coughing up blood or vomit that looks like coffee grounds;
-severe nausea, vomiting, or stomach pain;
-fever lasting longer than 3 days;
-swelling, or pain lasting longer than 10 days; or
-hearing problems, ringing in your ears.
-Less serious side effects may include:
-upset stomach, heartburn;
-drowsiness; or
-headache.
Guess what that is? That’s Aspirin…
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
IN CONCLUSION
DON’T BELIEVE THE HYPE!
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree in the sense that every drug legal and illegal has side effects
caffeine,nicotine,alcahol,medicine etc but its our choice to take them.i wouldnt personally put my body at risk.and im more ectomorphic aswell i find it really hard to put on muscle mass so ive got as good an excuse as any.
proof is in the puddin
3 deaths per year; and due to negligence. Cigs, alchohal and most medications when used properly can’t even claim that.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
u put a good case across that was backed up by facts
its something i wouldnt do but its something i understand.the window of oppurtunity as a fighter is quite small and i understand why some fighters would try to maximize ther potential,though i dont condone it.thats what pisses me offf about arsehole footballers over here in the u.k who earn mega money and cry when a sharp gust of wind hits them.
Well in sports at a professional level it's an unfair advantage
assuming your opponent isn’t juicing. Assuming you’re both technically on the same skill level; weigh the same and are both mentally prepared; then yes the juice is an advantage. It’s because of sports that they’re demonized in our society; everyone was taught growing up all through life that it was morally wrong. But really that’s only the case in the spirit of competition.
If someone wants to look good and that’s all they care about is using them for cosmetic purposes. I really don’t see the problem.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Coming full circle, then. MMA fighters use roids = cheating. Regular guy uses roids = nobody cares.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Would be nice if mr. Regular Guy could get his hands on some =(
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
But like NNR said if they legalized it
Then it wouldn’t be cheating! lol
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard HGH is much better.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Yea it's got a lot of beneficial side effects
that really don’t have anything to do with muscle gain; improve heart/kidney function, instill a sense of well being, some people claim it reverses/slows down the aging process. But a lot of people just stack it with a steroid anyway lol.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
which is probably very dangerous
Though I couldn’t say for sure, I haven’t really read up on stacking HGH with anything.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
HGH is the fountain of youth!
It’s great for recovery, but it’s something that you have to do everyday! It’s nothing like juice, but most steroids you don’t need to take every day. Esp the oil based ones.
Not that it's impossible but..
I’d think someone that just suddenly turns into a Schizophrenic probably had a lot of personal issues in the first place..
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup! Things can trigger an episode, but that's usually reserved for the hardcore drugs. The ones that mess with the chemicals in your head.
But if you have that disease, it’s just a matter of time before it manifests.(sp)
"all I can go on is his track record. He doesn’t fail tests"
One time with a bogus test this weekend in which the results aren’t back yet constitutes him having a track record of passing tests?
thats fine but please god just no Timmy
I do not want to relive the dark days of the UFC HW division.
I agree Mac
I’d like to see Lashley fight someone. He says he’ll fight anyone they want yet we read before every fight that he turns opponents down. how can he expect to be taken seriously!
isnt he signed to fight ron sparks
or was it a rhetorical statement and u want to see lashley step up.
my bad kev i agree time isnt on his side
but to be fair his resume for a 5 night novice isnt bad(we all cant be brock lesnar lol) sack the sparks fight and give him rogers or aa.its now or never imo
but he compares himself to Brock
you cant have it both ways! If you want to compare yourself to Brock, then fight the best! If you want to be brought up slowly, don’t compare ursel to anyone!
to be fair kev ive not really watched a lot of lashley interviews
is that what hes like?and if so then its about time he stepped up to the plate!king mo did it.
Oh I dont seek out his interviews either
but ive seen more than once that he didn’t fight so and so. I really don’t care as i don’t see him being a force compared to the top 5 in UFC! Overeem and Fedor would beat him soundly too!
Lashley is ducking even subpar competition.
He is nothing like brock lesnar. His credentials are far below and he’s nothing but a blown up middleweight. He put on all that muscle for Pro wrasslin nothin more. He ducked Shane Del Rosario because he knew he was gonna get his ass kicked and now he’s taking on Ron.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on May 17, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
uve got me wrong
i was just saying that lesnar has had the 5 HARDEST first lot of fights in mma history!! i just mentioned that lashleys first are probably par.im a fully fledged member of the pain train dont worry about that lol im just curious to see how he would do against decent standard opposition.if u remember a lot of people were slagging king mo for the same thing and he stepped up.ill give him1 fight before i judge.
Rogers vs Brett 2
IS the MOST stupid matchup strikeforce can possibly do thats far more retarded then Overeem vs Rogers after Rogers just lost and i do mean by far. Giving two of your stars who have back to back losses a gimme fight is the smart and only thing to do, go get ron waterman or snowman or Sergei or Randleman or Pee wee or Mike kyle or Sokudouj or the guy who Pudz just beat to get them on the winning track and that confidence back up.(probably not pee wee he could win)
IF Scott makes Part 2 happen right now he sucks bad and Strikeforce will eventually fail you cant do those kind of stupid matchups just because they will be fan pleasing, plenty of good fights they can make happen to get Rogers+AA back on track.
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
by Khaos_Warrior on May 17, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Pee Wee would hurt AA... for sure.
Pee Wee vs Brett is interesting.
The REEM is REAL and Fedor will Fall. ~ Muwahahaha !
Yeah having Brett Rogers fight himself, again, would be a stupid match-up
"Kimbo Slice sucks like I've been saying for the last few months, this fucking guy can't fight and he got knocked out in 13 seconds" (Dana White)
"The one thing we know about Kimbo Slice, this guy is a fighter, this guy will come to fight" (Dana White)
AA vs Rogers
Yeah sometimes im thinking one thing and something else gets typed
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
by Khaos_Warrior on May 17, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed Robert. Too much boxing and not enough MMA.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
probably living the high life too much aswell
hes mad into jewellery and sharp clothes.reminds of a rapper.im all for one for getting paid but if ur a fighter live like a fighter.rocky marciano used to book into the shittiest hotels he could find because it made him hungry!
+1
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by enzo-enormous on May 17, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Should go back to Clubber Lang status imo
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by enzo-enormous on May 17, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I totally agree...
I have thought that exact same thing. He used to be an animal. Since he started training with Roach he is way too cautious and doesnt go off of instinct any longer. It sucks because I really like AA
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by enzo-enormous on May 17, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Hate to see this happen to the guy...
…I was a big AA fan. Just don’t know what’s happened to the guy. He’s been inconsistent ever since those two losses to Tim Sylvia.
As a fan, did you ever see AA pro-boxing at a high level?
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by Eduardo Cruz on May 17, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Rogers vs AA
That match up looks good to me.
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by Ionnes on May 17, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
15-8?
With one more win he’ll be as good as Randy.
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Fedor is 31-1 and Randy is the legend. LOL.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 17, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh how different is career would be...
If he stuck to the gameplan, and didn’t try a flying knee on the #1 heavyweight in the world.
how about
a move to 205?
SHOGUN SLAYED THE DRAGON! Hell Yeah
by Phenomenal Angel on May 17, 2010 2:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
They say as you get older your reflexes start to fade......
I guess it effects some people more then others.
If that pic is from the post fight presser
he loos pretty good (aside from the whole missing link thing)
Geico
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Big Talent Bad Record
AA falls into that category of fighter that seems to have all the talent and potential in the world and is a challenge to anyone on any given day, but just manages to lose a lot. Another guy is Gonzaga. Anyone who beats one of these guy is instantly credible.
AA and Gonzaga could be top HW’s if they could just win one of their big fights. Instead, they always seem to lose when its all on the line.
How different their career (lives) would be if AA beat Fedor and Gonzaga beat Couture. As it stands now, they both need to start over and build back up with some gimme fights.
lets be real here, bigfoot only won this fight because of his size advantage...
i mean thats the excuse people give for brock winning…and bigfoot actually came in at 265 and a half…thats more than brock has ever weighed for a fight…so its apparent to me that AA didnt really lose this fight, silva just “outsized” a win over him…like brock does…right?
you know you're having some good sex when you start planning what you're gonna say in the 911 call afterwards...
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"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
AA from a different angle at the press conference...
by Lester The Pimp on May 17, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 17, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Andrei did look terrible, but
I think this time it can be legitimately blamed on cage rust. With more mma training- he’s obviously not gaining anything from freddie roach, you need to be a totally focused boxer to- he could still come back and win fights i believe.
Looked undersized
Andre looked undersized against Bigfoot, just like Mir trying to fight Carwin. Of course I think he could beat Tim Silva, who’s got about 70 pounds on him…
by Sammy Noodleman on May 17, 2010 7:29 PM EDT reply actions
ERrr AA vs Rogers 2
Yeah sometimes im thinking one thing and something else gets typed.
If you dont like drugs then dont do them.....give them to me!
AA is my favorite fighter. Like a lot have said, the guys has boat loads of talent. There’s no denying that. But, something is missing.
AA has become a more cautious fighter, which anyone would be hard-pressed to say is a bad thing. However, in AA’s case, I think it has changed the dynamic of his fights. Back in his day in the UFC, he came in with that hair and the fangs and just looked intimidating. Add on top of that that you knew he was coming in there to KYTFO like a beast, his opponents were intimidated before the fight ever started. Today, guys aren’t intimidated. They may respect AA’s ability, but they aren’t scared. They’re confident.
The best looking Andrei I’ve seen in recent years was against Rothwell and Nelson (and I know they are far inferior opponents). But, Andrei knew he was flat-out better than those guys, so he came in looking for the kill, was extremely aggressive, and got the W’s.
Maybe being uber-aggressive isn’t the way to go. But, I do think Andrei should send a message to the HW division. His next opponent, don’t just beat him and get the win, frick that dude up. I mean wreck his face. In the post fight interview, say he’s gonna ruin coming to rip peoples heads off. Andrei is too nice a guy to do that, but he needs to get that “killer” aura back that he had in the UFC.
He got caught by Timmeh, and he’s been different ever since. Get back to putting those fists in peoples face with bad intentions and things will turn around. He needs to use more kicks to the midsection and head. He’s too predictable right now. Leg kicks and combos. We all know it’s coming. KO just 1 guy with a head kick, and guys will feel a little but uneasier in the cage with AA.
He is going to get back on track. It’s just a matter of how long it takes to get things goin again.
But, in my mind, the 1 thing Andrei doesn’t have now that he had when he was the champ is the that killer instinct from start to finish. Not winning any decisions. Not outpointing his opponent. Just straight beating the mess outta their face and puttin em on the mat. That’s what we need to see again.
You fight like that, you’re gonna get caught every now and then, but you’re gonna win too. Something has to change.
Wouldn’t hurt to grow the hair out again either.
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