UFC Quick Quote: Lyoto Machida will be back and stronger than ever
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 9:15 AM EDT
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“It was Dana White, owner of the event, who scheduled the fight. We (team) don’t choose opponent and don’t refuse fight. If the owner of the event told us to fight, we prepared at the most to leave there with the victory. Lyoto didn’t refuse to square off with other contenders who were knocking out everybody and this time wasn’t different. He gave his best in the training and also inside the Octagon. Obviously the family and fans were sad but that’s it. The life is made of gladness and sadness. When he gets the belt back, for sure, the gladness is going to be much bigger than the first time he made it."
Former UFC light heavyweight champion Lyoto Machida (16-1) arrived in Brazil and was welcomed by fans at the airport in Para. Smiling and being a gentleman as usual, Machida handed out autographs and took pictures with fans. Chinzo Machida – brother and cornerman - spoke to Jornal do Para that Machida’s clan was ready to face off any adversary and didn’t jump on the bandwagon of people who consider the instant rematch unfair for the karateca. Fabiola Machida – The Dragon’s wife – revealed that her husband and is upset but calm because that result was fight business. The good news is Lyoto doesn’t need to undergo any surgery on his face and will be back to the camping in two months, stronger than ever.
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Good for him
I was hoping he wasn’t too hurt. Want to see me sum more machida fights- I was worried Shogun Bones’deded his face.
Machida vs. Cane for the next fight?
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Machida will make all necessary adjustments and be back..
It just seems like winning the belt becomes a huge distraction for most fighters. They are instantly pulled in a thousand different directions, and most don’t seem to be prepared for it. I think Shogun will be lucky to hold onto the belt for more than 2 fights. Can’t wait to see who Machida gets next. Maybe winner of Franklin/Liddell or Jones/Vladmir? Of course, Forrest is also available to.
’’They've done studies you know... 60% of the Time, it works every Time...’’ – Brian Fantana
Forrest isnt really competition for Machida
but I’d like to see Machida v Liddell or Machida v Jones
KneeGrowDamnUs
by kneegrowdamnus@gmail.com on May 13, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmm
He’ll be camping in two months? What happened to his career lol.
"I believe if I'm at 100% dat nobody....Nobody can andle my riddum at my weight class".
- GSP
I just hope the LHW revolving door comes to a halt with shogun
I would like to see him defend his belt at least a few times. Something about defending a belt, as gsp said its hard to get the belt and even harder to defend it. It must have something to do with the pressure.
"I believe if I'm at 100% dat nobody....Nobody can andle my riddum at my weight class".
- GSP
Just sit down Machida the error has been corrected
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 9:30 AM EDT reply actions
Ok, OD. Personally, I feel that Machida needs to work his way back to title contention. No automatic rematch. Hopefully, Shogun will stay champion long enough for Machida - Shogun III.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Shogun vs Machida III will be epic. If Machida destroys the loser of Rampage vs Evans or defeats Lil Nog or Cane, or two of these contenders he will be ready to Shogun.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you guys will be sorely dissapointed
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Of course Shogun is a beast but is also human.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
o damn is gonna be more douchey then ever cause of his boyfriend actually won..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
OD is certainly not a douche.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
What?
I don’t like Machida.. what do you want from me??
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
SHOGUN can lose to any tough fighter who makes it a battle about courage and heart(see forest)
he will win if he is put in there with skill fighters like rashad or machida. if you want to beat shogun, you have to take his shots and take his heart.
by Conan the Barbarian on May 13, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
SHUT UP
Watch the Lil Nog fight then tell me Shogun dosnt have heart. Pft mma fan today.
Never tell your problems to anyone...20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them.
by Jamie The Peach Hunter on May 13, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea not a lot of guys will out tough Shogun
The keys are going to be a disciplined game plan and excellent technique. Though Page vs Shogun, heart vs heart I’d say is a 50/50 fight if it happens.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I would have to go with Shogun in the rematch.
But don’t get me wrong in no way would the rematch look anything like the first fight. Page has gottin alot better tho lakes good game plans(i blame his camp). I just dont see Rua breakin Pages ribs again i felt as that was a big factor in there first fight. He got hurt early and couldnt come back from it. And as we all know Page has one of the best chin in the sport today. That would give us a all out war for five rounds not to bad for the fan i tell u.
Never tell your problems to anyone...20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them.
by Jamie The Peach Hunter on May 13, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Hi Eduardo
New to the comments section, but long-time reader. I’ve read quite a few of your quick quotes and wanted to say thanks for all the great material.
How so?
Knockouts happen. anything can happen in the next fight. If Shogun kicked Machidas butt for 5 rounds and dominated him I would say yeah no point. It was a 1st round knockout so this “rivalry” certainly isn’t over.
by GoldenSt8OfMind on May 13, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Machida will not fight LilNog, he is his JJ trainer, no chance
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
He and sorreas have both said if there was no other fight available then they would fight however I think lilnog will get a title shot before machida does.
Seriously?
Had to be that close to my name? lol
On being champion - "The best thing that’s come out of me being champ is I got a chance to meet Beyonce, so I’m happy about that. That was my lucky day, 7/7/07." - Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
He will, bro.
Machida stated he wouldn’t fight Anderson Silva for their friendship and for Silva fights at another division. But he also said he would fight Lil Nog because he recognizes the dream of his friend and couldn’t help it.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
f*ckin awesome! i can't wait for Machida to DESTROY Shogun in part 3!!!!
Knew he wasn’t hurt!
I love BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 13, 2010 9:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
by freenow82 on May 13, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
WHHOOOOOO!!!
Good to hear Dragon! WAR!!! Part 3! Part 3! Part 3! One more fight! One more fight!
We got this Machida!!!!!
Shogun fans are already scared now!
I love BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 13, 2010 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh yeah, Machida will come back scary strong
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Of course he will. He has too much skill not to come back strong. Its ridiculous to think otherwise.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Unless you weren't impressed with his skills in the first place..
Then you’d probably think otherwise =P
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha! You definitely define hater when it comes to Machida. No doubt.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Biggest wins are still Rashad Evans and Tito Ortiz
I’ve just never had a “WOW!” moment in a Machida fight.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually the WOW moment was when Tito almost locked up two subs on him
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
The WOW moment was Tito's dismissal after Machida kicked his ass.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Tito's dismissal??
Wasn’t his contract up and he stated he wasn’t resigning with the UFC?
He left for like 2 years, then the second he comes back to fight he signs with the UFC…
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
He was kicked after that. There were conversations on his new contract but Dana was mad at Tito and gave him "goodbye cruel world" composition.
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by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Nada
Tito left looking for greener pastures; was asking the UFC for too much $$$; flirted with Affliction and StrikeForce then went right back to the UFC. If he was right out dismissed I don’t see why they’d resign him without any fights inbetween Machida and the Forrest rematch.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Moot point. Machida kicked Tito's ass. Next!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Yea he got the better of Potato Head
But the only exciting part of the fight was Tito’s sub attempts at the end.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I get excited to see every fight. If you weren't excited to see Machida beat down Tito you might be dead.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
I was rooting for Tito oddly enough..
I think if it happened today I’d be flipping through HBO/Showtime during the fight..
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
That fight put me to sleep!
And yea the only part that opened my eyes was when Tito almost caught machida.
What a shocker!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
hahaha, that matchup was ridiculous, almost illegal. you can’t be running guys out by putting them up in mismatches b/c ur pissed off and you don’t want them to have anything to say under the contract negotiations..
proffesionalism at it’s best. matchmaking really comes to help when you want to be able to fix fights and “fix” your business.
someone else's success brings pain.
btw, getting knocked out won’t make any man stronger. Machida will come back the same as before and maybe even more “elusive”. I just hope Rampage gets to fight him so he can teach him some boxing and how to defend yourself, cause coming in and out with your chin up in the air isn’t the best D.
someone else's success brings pain.
He won 95% of his fights with the same style.
I don’t think his style is wrong.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
I don't remember it being
a shot to the chin that started the sequence that led to the KO. Also, see jays post below
no his style is working jay, but the "come back stronger" line is only for pr.
no it wasn’t a shot to the chin DH, but it was because he held his head “chin” up too high going in to the exchange.
someone else's success brings pain.
Sure, sure. Whatever you say...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Hey I'm not alone on that. Most do think that he is boring.
To each their own, he’s just not my type of fighter. I just can’t root for a guy that backs up the whole time. If Machida fought Machida there would be not one fn punch thrown! Not a one!
if GSP fought GSP there wouldn't be a single punch thrown either
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Over simplification
Machida didn’t just back up lol! He used it to set-up his strikes. He wasn’t backing up when he kicked Tito in the chest and Tito doubled over like a fat kid eating bad food at a buffet.
I think you forget he once was a points fighter so it they are more aware of getting hit and thus giving a point away.
always borrow money from a pessimist, they won't expect it back anyway!
by WarriorSaint on May 13, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Good post but he admitted he does not like Machida so...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Machida, Lesnar, GSP and Page are all on my hate list!
Well, Page and Lesnar I hate. GSP and MAchida I just don’t like to watch.
How can you hate such a good dude and ambasador of MMA
" Tomorrow is the day of the party! " Lyoto Machida Pre UFC 113
All the time??
Yes he’s a counter striker and iv said all along very similar to young chuck Liddell standing, both came from karate. However he doesn’t back up all the time, infact I think he’s became a little more aggressive with each fight!! He had shogun on the fence in the first fight, floored tito and ko’d rashad through going forward. Top fighters have to mix it up, I like machida and live his style…that’s what mma is all about peeps;)
by the real mo on May 13, 2010 2:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what about him knocking out Thiago Silva???
Has ANYONE done that?
what about KTFO Rashad?
until Rampage does it next weekend, Lyoto’s the only one to do that!
Nobody else has beaten Silva besides Rashad, and Nobody’s beaten Rashad besides Machida!
So lay off the Machida hate man, it’s fuckin juvenile.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on May 13, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That's because he is not exciting to watch for most fans. It does not mean that he has no skills. Not all fighters can be human highlight reels.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Exactly!!! Machida is a decent fighter and got blessed by timing that
Rampage didnt come in shape to fight Forrest and Rashad smoked Forrest like most any lhw upper level including my 12 year old daughter…. Rashad was too busy with the media to prepare properly.And a blind man could see Shogun got robbed the first fight….Machida lost that 2nd fight before it even started….he knew in the back of his head that Shogun whooped that azz the first time and he had a rabbits foot in his cup…Machida was scared shitless this past Saturday…..Face it Machida fans your and his “era” is over and only started by dumb luck…
I like bacon
by Big-dawg on May 13, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I certainly can face the fact that your post is devoid of any type of intelligence and bloated with ridiculous speculation.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I can face that too
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Yep Big dag is retarded, Machida became Cahmpion by dumb luck. you gotta be the dumbest motherfucker on this site
" Tomorrow is the day of the party! " Lyoto Machida Pre UFC 113
Comments like this
make me go back for a white, to only reading the actual articles. Eventually, my curiosity gets the better of me. Get some objectivity bud, Machida is a good fighter that lost to another good fighter. No need to get pissy because Machida fans offended you before the fight. An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind, and even a blind man can see…;)
Good fighter vs bad mutha f@$ker
Yes machida is a good fighter,it’s just Sho is a bad mutherfucka!:) there is a difference lol
by IdontREADthreads-THREADSreadME! on May 13, 2010 2:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
good job boys
This kryptonite talk is premature imo.
I love BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 13, 2010 10:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't know
imo Lyoto really thought he was unbeatable. after the first fight with Shogun he looked like he was going to cry, and the second fight he didn’t look like he had that confidence. or maybe i was just drunk
Drunk.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I was def drunk........
And when shogun won you best believe I was throwing down some mad fists pumps……….
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
That's right worby , he was doing really good untill Shogun caught him, It was by no means a domination except the KO part, I had him winnig till that point
" Tomorrow is the day of the party! " Lyoto Machida Pre UFC 113
i laugh everytime i see that pic (douche bag)
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol Me too.
Fucking guidos……….
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
Destroy...
I don’t see Machida destroying Shogun but using the right strategy he can beat the champion for sure.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Now that is talking sense
Shogun is not unbeatable, his punches are still kind of loopy and a boxer type will exploit that.
I guess people didn’t notice how easy it was for Machida to take Shogun down, he did it once when Shogun was attempting to take Machida down. It makes sense that the better puncher would win and that was Shogun, but I wouldn’t say that Shogun is the best puncher in that division.
always borrow money from a pessimist, they won't expect it back anyway!
by WarriorSaint on May 13, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess people didn’t notice how easy it was for Machida to take Shogun down
I commented it in other thread. Unfortunately – for the fight and Lyoto’s fans – he couldn’t take advantage of the takedowns. Shogun got up very quick and dominated The Dragon.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
true...
I think what Machida should draw from this fight that he needs to continue to make people fight his fight rather than trying to out-strike an aggressive striker since Machida is not the aggressive type. He plays the counter-game very well.
always borrow money from a pessimist, they won't expect it back anyway!
by WarriorSaint on May 13, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Machida lost the fight when tried to change his characteristic. That’s the point.
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by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe we are saying the same thing
always borrow money from a pessimist, they won't expect it back anyway!
by WarriorSaint on May 13, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
That first low kick followed by that punch made him use plan B too early in the fight. Perhaps he thought Shogun would come taking easy until round three or four. Damn, he was wrong and couldn’t get a real taste of the fight in time. Congratulations for Shogun.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I take nothing from Shogun
he fought well and deserved it because he wasn’t afraid to take a shot while delivering a shot and I think that is what strikers should be thinking, unlike Daley and Hardy who were more worried about being taken down than imposing their will on their weak chin opponents. But that is a different rant of mine. Kudos to Shogun for getting it done!
always borrow money from a pessimist, they won't expect it back anyway!
by WarriorSaint on May 13, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
that is what they said for machida coming into the second fight.
machida should fight jon jones and get his second loss. lol. but the ufc wil throw him forrest griffin i predict.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on May 13, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
This will be Machida's true test
The first fight was close. Even if you think Shogun won it was still a close decision. This is Machida’s first real loss. How he handles this will be his first test. Shogun has been there and has proven his championship charachter by fighting back up the ladder after being schooled by Forrest Griffin (but, but the cardio). Good for Rua and hopefully Machida does come back better than ever. As up and down as this division is I don’t think Rua will be champ by the time Machida climbs his way back up but a rubber match is definitely in the cards if they both keep winning.
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by fenderacoustic (formerly wAyNe) on May 13, 2010 9:40 AM EDT reply actions
This will make him even tougher
This could make or break him but I really think he’s mentally too tough to get broken up over this. Machida is one of the few guys who fights with his head. He knows what he’s good at and fights to that strength. That’s why I like him.
But I do hope he stops drinking urine.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on May 13, 2010 9:44 AM EDT reply actions
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
You've only got problems if it turns you on
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
This is fake. Actually Lyoto’s drinking beer.
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by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
You can see the froth on it; fresh out of the tap
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL. Gross.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
That isn't beer. It's fucking yellow.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
toast to the future
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by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
yikes lol
they should maybe try some milk or Gatorade
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
piss makes your bones strong, and puts hair on your chest!
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by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Fuck my weak bones and hairless chest :-(
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
LOL
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by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Fantastic reply.
lol
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by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
A good explanation for the loss may be the fact that Lyoto drank the wrong urine. His father’s pee is overdue and Machida got slow into the octagon.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
if he popped for a drug
could he say he accidentally drank the wrong glass and was unaware his pops was taking something ie prescription pills?
humor me
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, viagra might be in urine. you know how excited the men become after some pills.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
he should try this way, its more natural, hed beat shogun forsure
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
A good choice but I'm not into searching pictures. lol
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by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
the power of pic/gif has only recently been bestowed upon me
ill pic crazy right now…..itll pass
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by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
rotten.com perfect name for that!
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 13, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
asparagus with melted cheese
is good
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by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
dad drinking it up did not help him out either. lol!
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 13, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
and dragons a lock in that one!
I love BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 13, 2010 10:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
I just don't think he can ever beat shogun.........
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
Fans are fans
Lyoto was very respected until the loss and now is the reason for jokes. Unfair jokes. The great question to be answered is weather Machida will come back at the same level of confidence. On his skill there’s nothing to discuss. He wasn’t the champion by chance. Still a huge fan of him.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
People hate Machida. I don't understand it but it is the reality of the situation. I will always be a Machida fan.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
People hate Machida but love GSP, i will never understand the world
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
OJR and freenow82
I’ll never understand any shit at all LOL.
I’m getting bored with GSP’s performances. Not for his gameplan (takedown, takedown, takedown) but for his opponents too.
For me, Machida will beat two or three guys to get the title shot again. Win is another talk.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I still like GSP but I can understand why alot of fans are bored by him.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I do like him. A gentleman, true cham, but hell I don’t get excited for his performances. The last time I applauded him was versus BJ Penn and I rooted for BJ.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
People hate GSP, i will never understand the world.
I love BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 13, 2010 10:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If you don't like GSP,
then you must hate life.
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Is Gsp the thrill of you life?
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
GSP is pretty much the only reason I choose to live.......
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
is Gsp the thrill of your life?
Is that a rhetorical question?
I love BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 13, 2010 10:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I only live because I know a GSP fight is coming soon.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Yawn
You haters can’t sway my opinion and what basis do you have as long as he is champion?? You say he is boring I say he is masterful. It’s all a matter of opinions and yours is wrong and mine is right :-P lol
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
GSP is pretty much the only reason I choose to live.......
If that reason is to watch a man dry hump another then….
You say dry hump I say beat his ass and make him quit.
Tomato, tomahto………..
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
he was....
until your girl stopped over last night!!
l'm not afraid of anybody. Especially not Nick Diaz. -GSP
Actually if GSP is your favorite fighter, you have had a really boring life
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
***Gasp***
How dare you.
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
GSP would kill Shogun.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
No doubt.
Gsp is the best p4p by far. Who is Shogun?
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Some bum that got a title shot by beating Mark Coleman and an over the hill Chuck.
I call Shenanigans.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Once. Check the records.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
I didnt say he won both fights
the judges clearly robbed him the first time…I said he whooped his azz TWICE. ya know broken face twice,,,ribs…legs
I like bacon
Broken face, ribs and a win BABY! WHOOOO!
1 and 1. Rubber match coming up.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
i'm so damn tired of hearing "shogun got robbed"
he really didn’t. watch the fuckin fight again WITHOUT MIKE GOLDBERG AND JOE ROGAN’S BIASED COMMENTARY and you’ll see first round was razor thin, 2nd and 3rd to Machida, 4th and 5th to Shogun. It could’ve gone either way, and in a fight that close, the champ SHOULD get the nod.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on May 13, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
He doesn't have to because its the truth, BOW. And the decision reflects that reality.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
completely irrelavent at this point`
machida laying out cold on the mat = who cares what happened before.
l'm not afraid of anybody. Especially not Nick Diaz. -GSP
The record stands at 1 -1. You must be new to the concept of literacy.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Sigh... you guys are really gonna cling to that one
Even though it was the product of bad judging…
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Not going to rehash that argument, OD.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I'm not even a Machida fan. I'm only here to stir the pot.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Yeah, you like Kimbo. Good grief...
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
I like Kimbo the PERSON. Nothing wrong with that. I find him funny.
Cut me some slack. I was a huge wrestling fan as a kid. Personality plays a major part in my fanhood.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
No slack for you! I am trying to save your MMA soul. Stop worshipping at the altar of Kimbo you heathen!
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
He's in my top 30. He isn't on the mantle with GSP, Cote and Brock.
He sucks as a fighter. Hell, I’d bet on me beating him. But I feel sorry for him or something. I wasn’t cheering for him in Montreal.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
record book says 1-1
Shhhh… There’s royalty in our presence:
My God, its beeeeautiful!
I love BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 13, 2010 10:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Scared? Dominant.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
yea to stand and fight...since that lil Italian guy beat....embarassed,brutalized,demoralized...ect...ect
I like bacon
agreed
Now GSP holds guys down for 5 rounds.
by LeeroyJenkin$ on May 13, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot more guys can
land a big punch and then capitalize on it. Very, very few can hold down fighters who are, in some cases, heavier than themselves. Appreciate GSP for what he is able to do, or call it dry humping. It don’t matter
LOL Dry humping
I think it’s more humilating to be controled agaisnt your will for five rounds than it is being knocked out.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Little puppy is a bandwagon fan who vomits up opinions that are very unoriginal. I am still waiting to read a perspective that is actually insightful.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Then post like it, bro. Show some perspective.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
why do people always go to the
“i’ve been here since xxxx” card? if you have good points and opinions no one cares how long you have been here. Just don’t talk shit about the real champ GSP!!!! GSP!!!! GSP!!!! GSP!!!!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
SIDE NOTE
im actually surprised BE has gotten invloved with any warning or bans with an entire thread that got off topic due to me bringing up the African-American vs Black concept.
lots was said and theyve been cool
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Good.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
they did delte a different one of my posts tho
that was VERY generic
kinda pissed me off lol
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey champ I was onda before U ok !
by d*locc on May 13, 2010 1:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BAM! Down goes Big Dawg!
I love BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 13, 2010 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yea from bordem....these pics are making me tired
And for some reason I feel like I got ripped off another 50 buck just like when he fights on a card I paid for
I like bacon
Bored? Read a book. It should be a new experience for you.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
No. Just busting your balls. Seriously, come up with some new stuff though.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
The kind with pop up pictures
and pages to color
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I get it...You cant argue vaild points
So you try and insult me…NICE!!!! ok Odamn you can go back outside and play in the sandbox with the other kiddies
I like bacon
I'm actually just havin a laugh
I could care less about this argument = /
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
If you feel I can't argue valid points then I doubt your claim that you have been here for awhile. I was having a laugh at your expense.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Relax, OD was just joking with you, too. He is good peeps.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Fair enough.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
man how many pics is there of that weird bald guy placing this huge gold belt on this other dude?
I love BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 13, 2010 10:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I've heard all type of compliments for Gsp but the most weird was he's handsome. Fuck if the women think he is so, but men!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
im secure enough
to GSP aint a bad lookin’ dude…
imagine the type of quality he can pull!!
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont think hes a man-pumper
???
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
He might like a mixed bag???
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Oh No You DidN't!!!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
i fast forward the show when he starts to talk
I have friends with lisp, but something about his i cant listen to
he looked like shit in his fight too
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Or he sounds a lot gay........Your choice.
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
Now that's a good post, BD. LOL.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
awesome pic of Serra! ha ha
Now throw up another one with him and the belt.
I love BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 13, 2010 11:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LMAO!
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Worbsy ftw....
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
Worby wins.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
it is kinda weird that a Penn fan is posting George all over the place
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
Secret GSP's dominance
Fucker shaves his arm pits " you that? It makes me arodynamic when i fight, I can take danger" lol Oh and for the record FUCK GSP He is a phenominal athlete and great fighter, but a mental midget!
BAM BAM BAM!
This just happened Dawg!
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
omg! are these photoshopped? who is this dominant man?
I love BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 13, 2010 11:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
okay this is getting embarrassing. what a freak!
I love BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 13, 2010 11:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"GSP would kill Shogun."
That’s the olympic class of delusional.
Maybe he meant with a gun?? lol
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
Maybe I meant with a LHK, Cro-Cop style.
I love to troll.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
Jay you crazy fucker lol
I love me some GSP but I keeps it real…..
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
so you agree, ShoGun would win....
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah because of a huge size mismatch even then it would probably be close. If Machida can take Shogun down you know GSP can do it even better.
Yes, Yes Jimbob. Troll these fuckers.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
he is trying but im in a good mood
so it isnt going to work
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
if they were the same weight gsp wud win easy, shogun has no takedown defense..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
if fedor was the same size as God he would win
GAY
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
Yes, you are correct bob.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
jays a troll
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i don't hate gsp. i just don't have a shrine for him.
plus koscheck is going to kick his azz. +215 moneyline. kaching!
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 13, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I got your back on that one
To think that Machida is the only practitioner who could make Karate relevant today in today’s MMA is incredible. No one can claim to adapt it like he has with the success he has had. That earns my respect.
always borrow money from a pessimist, they won't expect it back anyway!
by WarriorSaint on May 13, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree
I still think that even though he got beaten fair and square by Shogun this time, he could easily beat most people in that division still. Shogun was just the better man on the night. He will hopefully come back a better fighter.
" My style is Whoop that ass" - Rampage Jackson
So far I thought only Shogun could beat him.
Other challengers will think “oh, I’ll do the same as Shogun” and will fall down KOed.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
by Eduardo Cruz on May 13, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
i think guys are going to be putting a ton of pressure on him from here on out
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
Sure they will and they will lose.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Lyoto/Lil NOG/Rampage
book em Dano
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,
Machida was doing just fine against Shogun but got caught on the temple – which can daze anyone, which just left Shogun to finish him off. It was looking like a great fight up to that point. To write off his skills and say he’s fought nobody’s is idiotic. He’s beaten plenty of top notch fighters.
totally agree
i keep saying this but Machida is still a massive threat to anyone in the LHW division!
" My style is Whoop that ass" - Rampage Jackson
Good point.
That punch on the temple killed Machida.
"No one wants to be defeated" Michael Jackson on MMA fights
ya but if it wasn’t that punch it would have been another…Shogun knew what he was doing like when he fought chuck, how many times did he just miss chucks head with that over hand right. I read that the Machida strategy was to kick and/or fake kicks and when Machida counters he comes in with those knees with his head straight up and exposed. This is where he was going to hit him, and guess what He did exactly that.
News Flash
Machida isn’t changing anything and he will never beat a prepared Shogun. Hopefully Shogun will reign as UFC Champ KO’ing opponents and not laying on them (GSP) or running away from them (Silva). The only other champ who brings it is BJ who will be back to old form in a few months.
.
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Newsflash. He already beat Shogun. His record is 1 - 1 vs. Shogun.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Sorry. Just because you beat Machida badly for 2 Rds does not mean you won Rds 1-3. Everyone also knows that Kimbo sucks but he gets ratings anyway. Common sense is not always common among the masses.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
a person is smart, people are not
-Men in Black
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Totally agree with OJ on that
Despite the mass consensus that Shogun kicked Machida’s ass in their first fight both myself and a mate (who both have martial arts and fighting experience) called rounds 1-3 for Machida and 4-5 for Shogun = Machida win. So I don’t think it’s anywhere near as conclusive as others like to think.
Lol at citing fighting/martial arts experience as a basis for legitimizing your opinion
Most professional fighters interviewed gave it to Shogun, Larry Pepe gave it to Shogun, Dana White gave it to Shogun, and in an online poll conducted by MMA junkie 80% of the people participating (their largest response to a poll to date) gave it to Shogun. I think the only people giving the decision to Machida, are the Machida fans..
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Statistics are always convenient. And I am an objective Machida fan. Shogun brutalized him for 2 rds. That's it. 3 > 2.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Just saying you in the 20% that sees it that way OJ =P
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I think what you're saying O damn -
is based on opinion of who won the overall fight – and yes, watching it purely as a fight you would give it to Shogun, he beat Machida up. However, this is a round based system and Machida won the first 3 out of 5 – that’s where experience in competitive fighting comes in judging the outcome – rather than drunken idiot at pub saying “look, that dude has blood on his face – he got his ass pwned”…
I think what I'm saying is
Fight expert analysts, fight fans, your “drunken idiots” and professional fighters included; an overwhelming majority of the MMA fan base in general (no not just drunks, I’m talkin writers, fighters, radio hosts and the UFC pres himself) felt that the decision was WRONGLY awarded to Machida and that you and OJ are in the smaller % of people OVERALL that argue Machida deserved to win that fight.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
no offense..
but do u ever shut up?? shogun won the rematch to we can end it with that..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
lol I love how when someone starts a sentence with "no offense"
it means they’re about to say something offensive. Get off my nuts dude; I’’m sorry your butt hurt about a conversation that happened days or a week ago but get over it. If you don’t have anything insightful or statistical to bring to the debate then just stay out of it please.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
how am i “butt hurt”, ur the one that got all pissy and i was just laughing at ur dumbass, let me reword wat i said. everybody stop arguing with him and just realize shogun is the better fighter, for now..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
Why can't you just scroll past it and ignore it
If you don’t care to discuss it, and then we can carry on our debate without you trying to troll it?
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
im not exactly trolling it. just because i don’t agree it does’nt mean im trolling, im just laughing at u don’t stop till u make ppl see it ur way, and if they don’t u get all mad and call them trolls. ppl hav different opinions then u do my friend, not everyone has to see it ur way, and i think the first fight does’nt mean much cause the remtach already happend, y not take ur fighters win and b happy, fuck the last fight it means nuthing now..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
How are you not trolling...
You weren’t debating or adding anything to the conversation you said “don’t you ever shut up”; that was the end of your argument. in other words “just stop talking about this guys.” Like you were even involved in the first damn place…
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
i love how i say one thing and u stck on it for hours. and its a site where i can comment where i want wenever i want, do i need ur permission to talk? i don’t think so cause ur just a nobody on the internet, u may hav the respect of posters but that does’nt mean anything, well ur too close minded to jsut let things go so im afraid i can’t help u, wat a shame..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
if i did’nt say “shut up”, wud u hav actually listened to my point??
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
What point?
That Shogun won, so we should just stop talking?? Yea I don’t know how any resists your rap there bud… you’re a real charmer. Look; if following me around, telling me to stfu, that I’m a douche and starting random arguments with me is what floats your boat then have at it.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
not really following u, im just suprised and confused y u always talk about the same fight, its a losing battle, alot more ppl then u think say machida won, and its like ur mission to go around telling them shogun won, its getting nowhere and i jsut don’t see u changing there mind. i belive u hav better things to spend ur comments on..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
bob, you're out of line on this one.
You should let it go.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
I know I know you people put no stock in Fight Metric cause it must be just a bunch of drunk guys sitting in a pub on a lap top
But GASP Somehow they even managed to give it to Rua on a 10 point must system! WOW!
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but if you went by stats alone -
You’d say Fedor got his ass kicked in his last 2 fights as well – in both he only really landed one good shot, just so happened to KO the other guy with it…
I watched the fight the day after with the sound turned down (as Rogan’s commentary only ever seemed to notice Shogun’s strikes, ignoring Machida’s counters every time) and even trying to be objective Machida still looked the most effective in the first 3 rounds.
Looks like we’ll just have to agree to disagree – at least this last fight was decisive (though I think Machida arguably looked the better of the two until he took the shot on the temple) ;)
Well a finish always makes any other efforts of by the opponent null and void.
But a decision like that one is always gonna leave questions. I just wouldn’t see a 3rd match between the two as a rubber match; I’d be looking at it like Page vs Wand 3 when Wand came in 2-0. Not that I wouldn’t buy the PPV if it went down a 3rd time =P
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 13, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
why is it that everytime someone is retarded I immediately know they are a BE lover?
I mean there are exceptions, but most of the time it’s a lock, kinda like when I drive and someone fucks up, it’s 90% a woman.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
and 10%asian
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
haha actually Id say 70% asian women, 20% just women, 8% asian men, 2% rest
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
haha u beat me to it
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Lmfao...
The dude critsizes GSP and Anderson but gives props to penn. O_o
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
He just likes good fights to watch i think is what he is trying to get at. Not taking anything away from other fighters.
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
I’m not saying these fighters are bad, they are the best at what they do, I just want to see good fights…
It's all a matter of opinion.........
I’m not hating on no one, I understand that some people don’t like to watch to GSP and that’s cool, but don’t bash his style, winning is winning………
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
ok i agree with that But it pisses me off When Goerge and do that and then When Fitch does he gets bashed
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
by the way just a friendly chat im not opening the shit gates
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
Agreed. Let's not open gates........
I think the reason that Georges doesn’t get as much hate is because unlike fitch he passes guard, does damage (Penn, Fitch, Alves) and he is constantly trying to finish fights. Everyone knows Hardy should have been subbed twice that night, mad props to him for no tapping though…..
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
I bash that and Shields and Ben Henderson do the same thing…BORING!
everyone’s going nuts for Henderson…all he does is tackle.
no..
he finishes, theres a big difference in wrestling and wrestling witha finish..
For what profit is it to man if he gains the world , and loses his own soul?
- Matthew 16:26
he has finished a few but that first supposedly “EPIC” fight with Cerrone was more them rolling around and tryin to see who could hold on to the other
I’m paying to see fights I want to see. I don’t care to see GSP man love on some dude. I guess I could stop paying for his PPV or go out of the room when his fight is on.
"man love on some dude"
Hard to have a convo when you go high shcool on me bro…….
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
What do you mean Dragon? Penn fights like every 4 months and finishes his opponents? Anderson fights once a year or so and runs. GSP tackles and holds…I ws just saying Penn’s the only champ who consistantly brings it. I want to see exciing fights
That's the problem though.........
Penn isn’t the champ.
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
Minus his sinus infection he will be. You can’t tell me you weren’t confused wondering what was wrong with him against edgar
Typical Penn...........
Got a big head, didnt’ train properly and gassed out……….
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
I love BJ Penn
He is my favorite fighter. He brings it. He will fight anyone. You gotta love that. BUT, I am so damn sick of him coming out flabby and so tired of having to come up with excuses as to why he didn’t perform. He didn’t bring it in his last fight. I was disappointed. End of story.
+1
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
I bet I can get you gambling before the end of the day........
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
You're on.
This is what happens when you bet on a loser like Cote, I should have listened to David W-S
I don't know how I am gonna do it but I'm gonna get you jay.......
Well, that one in the center: he had a flap holster and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the one second from the left: he had scared eyes, he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move.
He fought Shoguns fight
He was too aggressive, that is not Machida’s style, he fought Shoguns fight. I think he wanted to win so badly that he was over aggressive which is not his style. He is, and always will be, best at counter punching.
This is sort of like Mayweather in the 2nd round against Mosley when he got caught. He got caught fighting Mosley’s game, he regained his composure and went back to his roots of counter punching.
Thanks Southcali
but come on does anyone think Machida can change? Has he done anything different yet? Or do you think he hasn’t had to so this is why?
Thoughts?
no problem lol
Its his FIRST loss, he hasn’t had to change anything until now.
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 13, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do you think he needs to change
Just because he’s lost 1 fight doesn’t mean he needs to re-invent himself. Sometimes you just lose.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on May 13, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Machida needed this loss. He’ll probably come back the way GSP did after his loss to Serra and start tearing through the LHWs again to become champion.
Yeah I agree he is still the second best LHW in the world
I see Rua & Machida going to be in another battle and a great rivalry in MMA maybe one of the greatest. Right now they are 1-1 agaisnt eachother regardless of opinion.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
they should have machida fight jon jones but that would mean a second loss.
the ufc will give him forrest griffin. you heard it here first.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 13, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
machida's eye looks like james "collosus" thompsons ear.
one more hit and that sucker bursts!
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales". "And that's just what these hustlers look for. They cruise from casino to casino looking for weak dealers the way lions look for weak antelope". Ace Rothstein, The Movie "Casino" 1995.
by wolfmanshowlforever on May 13, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Long time reader...
new to the comments. This was a disappointing fight for me. Being a Machida fan, it hurt to watch, and it seemed he was anxious to fight aggressively to prove all the haters wrong. It backfired. Congrat to Shogun.
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