UFC Quick Quote: Paul Daley apologizes to Josh Koscheck for 'unprofessional' actions at UFC 113
"I've had a long flight home to consider my actions and regret the mistake I made on Saturday. I would like to apologize to the UFC and the Athletic Commission for what I've done as well as all the fans and sponsors that support me. I would also like to offer my sincerest apologies to Josh Koscheck who did not deserve the cheap shot I threw. He did what he needed to do in order to win the fight and get the job done, and I foolishly reacted to the situation. There is no excuse for my actions and I know what I did was very unprofessional. I was immensely frustrated by a collection of things that took place throughout the fight as well as leading up to it, but I'm certainly not trying to condone or excuse my actions. I feel ashamed and embarrassed by what I did and hope that together my team and I can get through this issue. It will be a long road back from where I am now to earning the trust and respect of the UFC and the MMA fans that have supported me for so long, I know I've let you all down but I'm determined to make it up to you all."
Former UFC 170-pound contender Paul Daley issues a formal apology to the UFC and opponent Josh Koscheck (via Telegraph.co.uk) for hitting "Kos" long after the horn sounded on their welterweight mash-up at UFC 113 last Saturday night (May 8) from the Bell Centre in Montreal. Promotion President Dana White was not amused by the "Semtex" cheap shot and immediately booted the promising talent from the Zuffa roster. Should Daley get a second chance at a career in the Octagon? Or did he get what he deserved? What's your take?
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got what he deserved.
but i think the punishment should come from the athletic commision and not directly from Dana (not to say Dana will have his own ways of punishing him)
but the athletic commission should review the incident and issue an appropriate penalty. for example – no license to fight for 1 year.
l'm not afraid of anybody. Especially not Nick Diaz. -GSP
The commission only has the power to suspend him, not boot him from the UFC. I’m sure the commish will have something to say about this as well.
I'm a pan-handlin', man-handlin', post-holin', high-rollin', dust-bowlin' daddy
Good apology, probably sincere
But I dont think it will matter with Dana, I think for sure we have seen the end of Daley with the UFC.
by domino effect on May 10, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly Daley being a top five in the UFC would be tough with all the ground artist
A fight agaisnt Diaz would be mroe exciting and a fighter I think would stand with Daley and someone Daley would have a chance agaisnt, I don’t think he would win but if Diaz did stand with him he has that one punch power chance?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I havent seen the fight yet, but from what I read, I was totally wrong! Semtex couldnt keep the fight standing, and if he cant stand, he cant win!
didnt see the incident or the fight…but from what I hear the fight was just a humpfest! If I wanted to see Semtex/Fitch, they would have booked Semtex/Fitch. I thought Kos would at least try and fight. From, what I hear, Kos wasnt to active in his G n P.
How bad was the sucker punch?
It wasn't really all Kos's fault that there was no active GnP
Gotta give Daley some credit for controlling his posture and not letting Kos improve his position. Everytime Kos would get side mount or pass guard Daley would immediatley get back to half guard.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 10, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes. Daley did very well in that aspect. Also, Kos was focusing on getting a sub so his GnP was obviously not as active.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
yeah it was like Rogan and Goldberg said actually,
He did well just to get back in guard, but learning to sweep and geting back to your feet against a very experienced wrestler takes years of practice, when Daley had months
by theworldismine on May 10, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
He had a few good shots but most were to the ribs or body
Daley had a improved ground game but did little in actually beign able to escape. Daley has been working on his ground game since the Shields loss but a couple years is still not enough.
A lifetime ban may be harsh but when Dana asked him after if he wanted to be in the UFC he just shrugged his shoulders?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Yeah
I think this was probably part of the frustration after though. There gets to a point of depth involved in a certain feeling, especially frustration, when your enveloped in it and disregard the smart decision out of anger. He definitely made that mistaking shrugging at Dana. I think he deserves to get back in the Octagon after lets say 6 months?
by theworldismine on May 10, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Daley should have been more humble in the moment with DW. That would have affected his "sentence".
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
But he was probably just giving his true feelings. Here’s a quote from a FightOpinion article
“On top of that, Daley went into this fight telling ESPN UK that he had no singular loyalty to UFC and that he wanted to fight in multiple MMA organizations and win multiple MMA titles.”
still not going anywhere...deal with it
by mike farmer on May 10, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
He doesn’t have to worry about fighting in the UFC for a while now
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 10, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions

still not going anywhere...deal with it
by mike farmer on May 10, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd think it was sincere
If I didn’t read 3 paragraphs explaining why he got upset and what pushed him over the edge. If you mean it, you apologize and explain why u were wrong, you don’t apologize and then justify ur actions and throw in there “but im not making excuses for what I did.” ummm thats exactly what ur doing!
Everybody makes mistakes. The key is owning it and being sincere. Anything else and you make it worse. You can't play the arrogant game with your boss, you will always lose.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Daley did a tremendous job in keep ing him in half guard...
I was actually suprised at how well he did in controlling Kos…Kos tried to sub, tried to gnp but each time he tried something, Daley moved closer to full guard.
The sucker punch was super late. The bell rang they were seperated for at least 4 or 5 seconds. Mirgliotta actually was in between them for a few seconds. I think he though Daley was going to congratulate him (as I did and few others) and let him walk by, and wham, another glancing blow by Daley..What sucks is he even missed the sucka punch, for the most part. He is getting suspended and didn’t even have the pleasure of landing flush…
I was a fool for ever doubting Shogun. I should be ashamed for never giving him a chance to get healthy. Shogun made Machida look B-level-Just like my bet made me look b-level!
daley is a punk for this but the punishment is too steep
Holding onto a choke is far more dangerous than a sucker punch…but this is all about timing and the strikeforce mini riot. Hefty fine and suspension seem about right…and I’m not a daley fan by any means….I still think kos should have had to fight fitch
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
by salamagogo on May 10, 2010 9:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
…For a shitle tot
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
by salamagogo on May 10, 2010 9:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you refering to Babalu holding the choke? If you are your wrong. Holding that choke for a couple second after he had tapped was no way more dangerouse. If it had been a shoulder lock, knee bar, kamura ect I would agree, but not with a choke. I agree it was just as classless, but Daley has some power with his strikes. So had Daley landed cleanly and smashed Koschecks orbital bone would people still defend it? I know Kos is hated but people would be calling for Daley’s head had he done that to GSP
by LOKIE on May 10, 2010 9:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
babalu and bj
I think the chances of serious damage are more likely to occur via the brain being deprived oxygen as opposed to a sucker punch…they’re both bad,but I disagree with you
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
by salamagogo on May 10, 2010 9:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rousimar Palhares
He held a heel hook at UFC 111 for a little while after the ref tried to stop him/dude tapped, totally shredded the guys ligaments.
Was suspended for 90 days.
I still think
it is a garbage accusation to make about that heel hook. Watch it again, he was trying to fight off the heel hook in the same exact spot he started tapping, that would be confusing. This is a professional sport and I think you go until the whistle or the ref stops you, it is your job to defend your self and the refs job to keep you safe. With that said I do respect an action like Rua’s in his stopping in pummeling Machida when he went limp. Also I think Babs holding onto the choke a little longer is different than getting up, walking around the ref and taking a swing.
by Edgecrusher71 on May 10, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
cmon
that sucker punch could have done a lot more damage than holding a choke for a few extra seconds! Luckily Kos saw it coming and deflected it a bit!
I was saying what Semtex
did was WAY worse. The fact that he got up walked around, walked around the ref at that, and swung. If someone goes limp and they hang onto a choke for a while longer that would be an issue but I do think hanging on when the ref is trying to stop you should still get some kind of penalty. Just like it should in any other sport.
by Edgecrusher71 on May 10, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
The blame should be on the ref
Yes, Drwal was tapping but the ref didn’t stop the fight. Palhares can only be blamed so much and i think more blame should have been put on the ref.
by Danza Macabra on May 10, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
the brain has to be deprived of oxygen for several minutes before serious and permanent brain damage can occur
still not going anywhere...deal with it
lets someone properly put on a rear naked and keep it on for 90 seconds
see how things end up
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 10, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
when has anyone in an mma match been able to hold onto a choke for ninety seconds after the fighter taps or after the fighter goes out and the ref tries to stop the fight?
still not going anywhere...deal with it
I thought I read somewhere that 8 seconds without blood flow..........
and then brain cells start dying?? I might be wrong………..
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
never
im just saying in general, a punch is not as dangerous as holding a choke.
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 10, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Rossen R, Kabat H, Anderson JP. Acute arrest of cerebral circulation man. Arch Neurol Psychiatry 1943; 50: 510-528
The above study is the quickest thing I could find and they suggest that a blood choke can be held for up to two minutes before brain damage can occur.
still not going anywhere...deal with it
by mike farmer on May 10, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
i've also heard 8-10 secs causes brain damage
There is NO WAY in hell if you let me hold as tight as I can a rear naked on an unconscious opponent or anyone for that fact, for over 30 seconds? That guy is gonna be messed up and that’s an understatement. I watched a 60 min special on stupid kids that were choking themselves out as a rush. Many of them died and its the reason why they actually removed those silly hand towel dryers that simply revolve back into the dispenser and are made of cloth. The kids in school would use it around there necks and black themselves out and numerous died.
Stupid fuckin kids.
I heart BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 10:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Tell that to this man

"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 10, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
what a bizarre story that ended up being
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 10, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I also confused oxygen to the brain with just plain breathing
breathing must be restored within 5-6 minutes of when a person stops breathing otherwise brain damage will occur
still not going anywhere...deal with it
by mike farmer on May 10, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Well yeah if you litterally can choke a man for 90 second I guess your right but fuck when has that happened.
by LOKIE on May 10, 2010 10:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LOKIE lol im not saying that has occured at all in mma
Sorry for the confusion. I’m simply responding to the fact of how long it would take to cause brain damage and I’ve heard repeatedly from fighters (given they aren’t doctors) say it only takes 8+ seconds before it can result in brain damage. And I’m sure it has happened outside the cage before. Scary stuff though. I’ve been in many rear naked chokes, luckily from respectful people with only teaching and demonstrating in mind. A proper technical choke could bring a big man down if even applied correctly by a 90lb woman. Trust me I’ve taught every gf I’ve had the last few years how to properly apply it. Lol its kinda hot.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 11:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
There would be no choke holds allowed if this was even close to being true.
The same people (Republican John McCain) who tried to have this sport banned would have used the “brain damage” argument. I don’t ever recall that being considered part of the reason to ban the sport.
by Bullybeater on May 10, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
really? so all the fighters that are asked about this simply lie to sound tougher?
Gina did it on Sport Science. Their was a radio dj who had it done by Bas Rutten I believe. I saw Cyborg do it to an mma reporter. And I’ve seen multiple others had it performed as well, followed by or preceded by what the consequences can be if held too long, and they consistently stated that 8-10 seconds on average is when it starts to cause brain damage AFTER the fighter goes out. That’s not something they would ban due to that time period. How many fighters you see go out, now count to ten, before the ref now gets there?
Your guess on what you feel would be legal doesn’t outlaw the reality of what professional fighters say in my opinon.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 1:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah worbs because pro mma fighters are like doctors
cmon man, people die and don’t breathe for minutes, get revived and r fine, but now in 8-10 seconds u do damage?
LOL
Yeah 8-10 seconds doesn’t do shit maybe kills a few brain cells but no more than a basic jab. I think fighters not letting go of a joint would be much worse the difference between a pop and tear are huge.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
i mentioned they arent doctors
But for some reason I still believe them over you. They kinda may have been informed from doctors etc since they train in the sport and its consequences. Kev just cause ppl die and are revived doesn’t mean shit. Let Brocks arms hold a rear naked choke on that persons neck while their dead for 90 seconds and see what they’re like after or better yet IF they revive him or her.
You should really “c’mon”.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 7:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
how does a person lying there with nothing happening to them dead being revived
How is that the same as 100+lbs of pressure and torque on an unconscious body the same for 90 seconds? 8-10+ can harm a brain if it doesn’t why don’t you tough guys let a friend put you under and hold it for an add’l 20 after that. Bet you don’t even allow him to put you under cause you’ll freak and tap in less than 3 seconds if its in properly.
Guaranteed.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 7:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
thats what you're supposed to do worbs
tap! But someone lying dead has no blood going to the brain and is the exact same thing as being choked. Do u really believe that the blood flow when ur dead is more than when being choked? there is no blood flow in either, it’s the same. Ur killing brain cells drinking , smoking, coughing. I agree that their could be permanent damage, but I also agree that eating expired meat can do the same!
Both wrong, but different.
When the bell rings, and the fighters are pulled away for that brief moment, something happens in almost every fight. Regardless of all the trashtalk, and contraversy during the fight, they usually come together and either show geniune respect for each other, or at least show the proper respect for the sport. Sure, in some cases such as Lesnar’s rant, while it might have showed a terrible disrespect, he didn’t physically assault Mir. In my opinion, that is absolutely vital to combat sports maintaning any kind of respect. These guys get 15 to 25 minutes to prove all of the trash they have been spouting. The legal authorites, the fans, and society in general gives them what most of us will never have. That being, a license to beat the tar out of someone without going to jail. However, for that to work, the bell has to be respected at all costs. Talk all you want before and after, but when the bell rings your window for using violence to prove your point just closed. Holding a choke longer than necesary is wrong as well, but in context, it’s a whole other issue.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
good post.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
one of the best in recent memory
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 11:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah good post Jrandolph
You want to see one of the toughest mothers in the sport in Rua and look at the sportsmanship he showed he quit throwing before the ref stopped him now that is a man in control of his emotions 80% of the fighters would of kepty throwing until the ref stopped him.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
True
I don’t think Rua is the ‘toughest mother in the sport’, let’s let guys defend their belt a couple times before we proclaim them the best ever from now on.
But yea, totally classy from Shogun to stop.
Machida, GSP, Rua. These guys represent the sport well.
Shogun lost a close decision! Everyone get crazy!
How about what Nate pulled back from crushing Maia with a follow up?
That was extremely classy as well.
Like I said in an earlier thread...
Daley has brutal ko power..What if he landed and caused significant damage (ie. a detatched retina which you can no longer fight after having) a broken jaw? Would it be to much then? Just because he couldn’t land the sucker punch doesn’t negate the danger in his actions.
I was a fool for ever doubting Shogun. I should be ashamed for never giving him a chance to get healthy. Shogun made Machida look B-level-Just like my bet made me look b-level!
the funny thing is i STILL dont believe fully that Dana wouldnt take him back
Get a reporter to ask him again in a week now that an apology has been made. He’ll ‘if, and, or but’, his way in to it being a ‘possibility down the road, maybe’.
I heart BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 9:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
yeah
i mean when Heath Herring came onto the scene they marketed him on the fact he punched buddy out before the fight even started!
l'm not afraid of anybody. Especially not Nick Diaz. -GSP
Yea but the dude kissed him....
I mean come on… that guy deserved it
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 10, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
i know man bad comparison!
but O DAMN!! SHOGUN!!!
l'm not afraid of anybody. Especially not Nick Diaz. -GSP
my favorite part was that it was in japan
The funniest part hearing the reactions and uproar of everyone and knowing what they’re saying without “knowing” what they’re saying. And them taking him to the corner with the ONLY english coming from Heath as he repeats “I ain’t no fag”.
Goooood stuff.
I heart BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 9:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
There is no excuse for a cheap shot
What Herring did was just as bad and being a homophobe if anything made it worse, as bad as Daley behaved at least he apologised (too little too late but it’s better than saying “I’m no fag”). Herring actually tried to justify his sucker punch KO. Funnily enough that’s the only KO strike I’ve ever seen Herring land.
Proud member of the Brock Pain Train.
Congratulations Jake, Gil and Mo. From the only Maniac to pick all 3 of them.
by David W-S on May 10, 2010 9:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Isn't kissing the guy on the lips sexual harrassment
Or something equally as bad?? The fight hadn’t started yet, and it’s a fight not gay porn; the guy had no business touching Herring before the bell rang with any part of his body; and he definatley had no busiess kissing him at all period. Tit for tat; that one was deserved.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 10, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
totally agreed odamn
Plus that could be a religious belief. No surprise that gays are not part of a certain couple of kinda big religions. If he’s not gay, shouldn’t he have to choice to not kiss a guy his whole life if he wants? That’s his choice. I’ve never touched a drug other then weed like 5x in my entire life! Now, if I’m standing the blabbing and some guy throws a pill in my mouth while I’m talking or I find out someone put something in my drink, someones going to sleep. And that’s my fuckin right.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 9:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i heart bj penn isnt the same?
I don’t mind its just a tedious task from the mobile. But if you prefer that ill change it as I did lose. I just made that sig up, cause I didn’t have one from ya yet as I changed the pic.
I heart BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 10:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
heart sounds like hate
change it when you can(at home) i dont care. ill give you another bet soon if you want so you can try to redeem yourself
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
oh you know i wanna try and redeem myself lol
And ya ill change it here in an hour buddy. I’m done driving then so I can fuck around with it then. I truly think the Page/Shad fight can go either way, who ya got in that one? Interested possibly?
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 10:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeh i think that one is a coin flip
I may bet on that one. Let me think on it and ill look at some other fights coming up
Open up the Shit Gates and where the Hell was Marv?
ha ha smart move. what kinda president would i be if i refused that one?
I’m in for that. But ill also let you keep me in mind for something a little sooner if you think of any.
I heart BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 10:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Page!
I want Page, cause I wanna see how the rematch between Rua and Page will go. Who you got in that possible rematch DW? I got my boy Rua of course. :)
sorry buddy i couldnt take page in a shogun fight
He’s way too streaky and I’m leanin towards taking Shad in the Page fight as it is. They are both sooo iffy.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 8:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
not to mention
..if any dude kissed me in front of that many people, that I’m about to scrap, I’m gonna clock him as fast or faster then Heath did. I’m not being remembered as ‘the guy that got kissed’, I’m being remembered as ‘the guy that got kissed, then knocked the other dude out!’
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
so you have never taken an aspirin, tylenol, or cough syrup? no pain killers? never drank any alcohol?
still not going anywhere...deal with it
by mike farmer on May 10, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmm
Think I’ve done all that shit at the same time lol
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 10, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL! Good God, OD.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
hey i take tylenol and aspirin while im drinking too
..if I have a headache. Just did on Saturday. Lol I watched the card at a broads house. Who’s birthday it also happened to be. Who also in turn had about 15 girls there for her celebration. God was that fucking loud. Try turning surround louder then 15 drunk half naked broads, I mean don’t get me wrong. Was all about 1/2 of em looks wise, but that can wait til 10pm when the cards done. My lord I instantly required 2 extra strengths and more and more beers.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 10:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you gonna post pics of all the ones you nailed that night?
I'm a pan-handlin', man-handlin', post-holin', high-rollin', dust-bowlin' daddy
lol pdub i've never been part of an orgy
..nor 3some with 2 chicks, nor “tag team” with another guy on one girl. Too homophobic for a tag team (that and greedy and it makes me sick when a chicks THAT classless), and don’t really care about a 3some but it also hasn’t presented itself with 2 real hotties and probs never will so. And I don’t mind posting a picture of the one I nailed Saturday if ppl care. Some do they said keep doin it. But it clearly makes some ppl upset. That and it’d have to wait a week cause I gotta honor my bet loss to BJpennfan.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 1:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
only morons that need to make themselves
..feel better about using drugs could possibly see legal minor aches and pains relief as the same thing or use reasoning in comparison to cocaine, meth, acid, ecstasy etc. Are you really that naïve to your problems mikefarm?
As for religious beliefs, I said some ppl’s religions. Not mine in particular. Ask around here if I drink. Its no secret I like beer. If beer were a fat ugly woman I’d fuck her every night. That has nothing to do with my belief or stance on drugs. And neither does the fact I don’t care for headaches. Shocking, I know.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 10:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
HAHAHAHA
that’s hilarious. you think I have a drug problem? bitch please. don’t make assumptions about people you don’t know. I smoke pot and nothing else. I don’t drink. I don’t use other recreational drugs. I don’t use legal drugs either, with the exception of vicodin when I had a wisdom tooth removed and couldn’t smoke. hell, I’m not even smoking pot right now and haven’t for about 7 or 8 weeks.
still not going anywhere...deal with it
by mike farmer on May 10, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
" don’t make assumptions about people you don’t know"
Wtf exactly were you doing when you asked/assumed I took tylenol or consume alcohol? Where were you going with that? If weren’t insinuating I take/consume those types of things I find your post regarding them to be very random and more than irrelevant to the conversation, no?
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 10:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You heard him Worby

"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 10, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
what a douchebag post
still not going anywhere...deal with it
by mike farmer on May 10, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
im willing to bet ppl would side with my valid points over yours
At least my points were valid to the situation at task and I needed now back peddling or explanation to validate them. To which yours still doesn’t make sense.
I heart BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 10:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
don't bother responding to any of my posts ever.
you’re dead to me. clearly you’re too simple minded and I will never acknowledge anything from you ever again. have a great day.
still not going anywhere...deal with it
by mike farmer on May 10, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
oh nooooooo!
Ya and I’m the simple minded one. This is perfect timing for a cleverly placed:
“Deal with it”, from your type of commenting skills. Cheers genius.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 10:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
*no back peddling
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 10:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Homophobe?
What does that matter? gimme a break.
"Remember men, we are all winners in the eyes of Christ...except for the guy still bleeding on the canvass"
indeed
If we have learned anything from dana its not to believe a damn word he says
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
by salamagogo on May 10, 2010 9:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
really bad comparison because it can easily be counter argued with Tito Ortiz as an example
Dana cares only about money. If Lindland were an exciting fighter or had the ability to draw viewers and push up a ppv buyrate then he would be brought back. But since Lindland is one of the most boring fighters and personalities out there he will never be brought back.
still not going anywhere...deal with it
Well................
Its nice that he made amends for what he did but Knowing Dana White he will still never be seen in the UFC again. In other sports weve seen this sorta thing and there was always a 2nd chance given but Dana White is trying to Get the UFC image up and having guys sucker punch each other is not the way to do that……I want to see Daley back in the Octagon but, it wont happen
I think he's trying to set an example
What Daley did is nothing compared to the SF post fight gang bang on Miller; and SF did NOTHING about it. Dana taking a pro active approach here to one up Coker.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 10, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
" but Knowing Dana White he will still never be seen in the UFC again."
I haven’t disagreed with a quote this much in a long while.
And ODamn, what was SF supposed to do? They made them apologize and left it up to the commission. Its kinda the commissions job no? They don’t exactly have a roster to say “Okay you’re all fired, go fight in the UFC, we’ll just quietly fold so online posters are satisfied”.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 9:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Who knows... I got no clue what they should've done; but the fact that it happened and SF did nothing about it
is what solicited this type of response from White in regards to Daley. Coker’s remarks post fight were something along of the lines of “shit happens, Miller should’ve expected this type of reaction.” Not an appropriate response from the owner of SF to what was essentially assault on live TV during his show imo.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 10, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha good one Worby
What is it about my favourite fighters making fools of themselves? From Andys clowning around to the Team Gracie brawl and now Daleys sucker punch it’s been tough being a fan of these guys. That’s what I get for supporting the bad boys of MMA I guess.
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Congratulations Jake, Gil and Mo. From the only Maniac to pick all 3 of them.
by David W-S on May 10, 2010 9:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol ya you got it rough David
Luckily I don’t care for the Diaz’, but I am a fan of the ‘bad guys’ usually. They seem to be the most charismatic and entertaining. Though I dislike Rampage’s out of cage life as well. And Kos is a ‘bad guy’ no? But still hate him too.
And ODamn, I totally agree on the part that Dana is doing this to Daley because of SF partially for sure. If I’m SF I’m not very concerned as their not a HUGE org yet anyways, and I would also pick up Daley. What’s the harm? Dana trashes SF? Oh no! That’s a first! Even if/when he did, he’s still talking about Daley and SF, which may get some fans who hate Kos, or simply like to see a guy who’s in some drama, they may tune in to Daley’s next fight to see “what’s he gonna do next?”.
Smart move for SF.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 10:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think DW did that to Daley other than it was a blatant and dangerous act. DW is a hypocrite at times but he has no agenda behind this decision.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Agreed
and I believe that SF announces on Saturday that they have signed Daley.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Agreed about the hypocrite but there is something worth pointing out too.
Does anyone remember what Dana had to say about Chris Leben getting busted for roids. He said as long as he serves his punishment, he doesn’t need to get ragged on about it. people screw up. I feel this is worse because roids = cheating. That is done on purpose. Daley didn’t try to knock his head off, he didn’t try to cheat. The guy made a mistake in the heat of the moment and showed his frustration. Let the athletic commission deal with him.
lmao
so he didn’t walk up and punch Kos 30 seconds after the fight was over “on purpose?”
so it was by accident?
30 seconds? It was barely five seconds after it was over.
still not going anywhere...deal with it
They'll get Daley
But it looks like they’re losing Shields. Not an even trade imo.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 10, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Not even close.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
maybe not an even trade
But if Shields won’t come cheap, Daley may. And Daley has less comp to shine over in SF, and he’s also a more exciting fighter to the majority of ppl, add that to the fact Shields may indeed lose once he gets to the UFC (not like we haven’t seen that from new comers to the league), and it is a lot better then nothing.
I heart BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 10:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
im not sure
what you disagree with? Dana White not allowing Dalewy back into the ufc or what???
by JFivecoat28 on May 10, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
lol im sure more ppl will explain what i meant here but here goes:
You said “knowing dana white we will never see him again…”, or something very similar. The main thing I and the others that posted along disagree is Dana is anything but true to his words! My god the guy said repeatedly that Tito would never fight in the UFC and even had Tito scaring Dana into a pee drizzle down his thigh at a press conference and he’s back.
He also said Nick Diaz would never be back and then recently stated ‘So long as he learns to play by the rules we would welcome him back in the future’.
He also said Chuck and Tito was still happening for SURE!
He also said ‘the next season of TUF (10 with Kimbo) is going to be the most exciting season yet!’ (multiple times).
Need I go on?
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 11:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I am sure that he will change his mind. However, don't expect Daley to be in the UFC for a long time.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
no i get it
but im willing to bet it wont happen
You mean a win, spot on Spike TV coaching TUF and a title shot against GSP?
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 10, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
He read that apology off a paper his manager wrote
He’s not sorry.
His punishment isnt enough.
Like Rogan said, he should be in jail right now.
by Lester The Pimp on May 10, 2010 9:25 AM EDT reply actions
Other sports don't have trained fighters. Big difference.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
the big difference is that
this was a single sucker-punch, which was blocked. In other sports, such as hockey, guys square up and the refs let it happen. MMA is still tryin to grow and gain respect, so ofcourse Dana needs to rule with an iron fist. he needs to curb the stereotype of the MMA Athelete as being beyond street fighters.
MMA is Life
Just because Kos blocked it means nothing. It was still dangerous and unacceptable coming from a trained fighter. Other sports have nothing to do with this example.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
should a guy lose his livelihood for life (in the UFC) because of 1 single brainfart?
which happens in every other sport all the time.
MMA is Life
I think so..........
No excuses, you want to fight proffesionally then imo you have to act proffessionally. What daley did was cowardly and completely classless, no room for those kinds of actions in the UFC, take that bucsh league shit to strikforce…………
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
A trained fighter should be held up to a higher degree of scrutiny when engaging in physical violence once the sanctioned time has expired. Daley is very lucky that he did not hurt Kos. That is assault because it was not within the context of the match.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
Where is your fanpost on the weekend exprience? Did I miss it?
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
No. Middle of the week. Maybe Wed. Look for it then.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
cool
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
I agree, but I just see a double-standard
Daley should be punished heavily and made an example of. Dana White did what he did to show he wont put up with that shit. He needs sanctioning and acceptance worldwide (especially in Ontario), so he’s tryin to clean it up. At the end of the day, this helps the sport, but not Daley. He just lost his cool at the wrong time in the wrong sport. You can do pretty much whatever you want in hockey (Tie Domi fought a fan!), Basketball (that big brawl which included a fan being punched)…players lose their cool all the time.
The thing is people already see fighting as barbaric, so DW has to punish his guys harder than other sports. But a lifetime ban, I dont know.
MMA is Life
Yeah, I don't think it will be a lifetime ban, either. However, it could be a couple of years (if Daley proves himself).
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
If i sucker punch a co-worker do I get a pass? Hell no. I lose my job, get arrested and probably sued.
Because they are professional fighters, it should be different?
When the bell rings, it is over. This is a pretty black and white issue.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
You look at the possible results that could of happened
KOS being KO and injured and possibly lose his spot at the belt?
Sucker punches in hockey were taking pretty lenient until Bertuzzi suckered punched another player and caused the player enough damage that he couldn’t return. I fighter is as vulnerable to getting KO as any fan when not expecting and could of easily turned out much worse than it did luckily.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
your right, let's make it fair across the board
im sure you’ll be ok with a lifetime ban on any hockey fights, right ulf?
MMA is Life
Sucker punches get dealt with in hockey. See Bertuzzi, Todd.
A fight in hockey between two willing combatants is totally different.
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
exactly ulf
Anyone that actually watches hockey knows they have extreme penalties and consequences for ANY sucker punches or fights where the two don’t formally agree to fight. If you don’t drop the gloves and square off, you don’t fight. Or you’re in deeeeep sh*t.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 1:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
have you not been paying attention
Football teams are actually sending players to do MMA training maybe there not fighters but they are not exactly not trained
by JFivecoat28 on May 10, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
What a bunch of bullshit
Jail, really? Does anyone in any other sport go to jail for fights on the field? Does anyone in any other sport get kicked the fuck out for a single punch? This is just ridiculous.
Just look at hockey. These guys aren’t supposed to fight, it’s not an official part of the sport. And when they do they just have to go sit in the corner for two minutes afterwards. Nobody fucking cries about sportsmanship.
Shut up
Are you daft?
Read OJR’s post (If you can read, that is).
by Lester The Pimp on May 10, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually smart guy, there have been instances where criminal charges were filed as a result of actions that occurred during games. Todd Bertuzzi, for instance.
I'm a pan-handlin', man-handlin', post-holin', high-rollin', dust-bowlin' daddy
Marty Mcsorely
and what about that young Rugby player that power bombed that other kid last year and killed him in Ontario. He was charged and sent to jail for like 6 years wasnt he? The law is starting to surface more and more in sporting events. Im not sure how I feel about it but the players need to know they are protected somehow. If someone does something to you during an event that cause injury or death I think something needs to be done at this point. Respect is gone from sports and the players need protection!!! If I were skating down the ice and someone took their stick upside my head from behind I would be looking for some serious redemption whether it physical or legal.
"instances" being the keyword
The example you gave and the one below hardly compare to a grazing sucker punch.
It would be a differant story if Kos wouldve been KO'D,
I think thats the part you dont seem to understand. Look at the big picture, just because Kos wasnt injured, guys like you seem to think its ok. You dont discipline guys depending on an injury, you discipline the act which potentially stops the injury from happening in the future. Paul Daley is an unprofessional little punk and he proved it, thats why he is were he is today, at home looking for a job!!
watch this
http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=CA&warned=True&client=mv-google&hl=en&v=B2xX-9A8sn4
They are penalized heavily each time they are an idiot. Don’t comment on hockey when u think they get 2 min penalties. They get 5 minimum and if something like the above happens? They are fukn screwed. Hockey hands out very serious consequences for any cheap shot or fight that doesn’t involve 2 willing fighters. If you attack a guy who hasn’t agreed to fight by dropping his gloves, you’re in deeeeeep sh*t.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 1:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
u needed english to see a guy skate down
To a defenseless goalie who wanted no parts and beat the piss out of him even continually while he’s on the ground turtling when you don’t fight once a guy hits the ice in hockey. He’s a coward and was kicked from the league.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 8:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
u need no volumne for it even
Its a sickening display. You can visually see his father/coach whistle and signal to go get the other goalie. His son (goalie) goes straight down there while the other goalie doesn’t even take his arms off the resting position and wants no part and is beaten to a pulp while simply trying to cover up long enough for a ref to get there during a line brawl.
No this wasn’t the big league NHL, it was QJHL. Quebecs big league.
Ps I don’t know a lick of french either but if its THAT hard search Ramparts Roy and look for one of the many english versions.
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by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 8:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh ok
I got the idea just didn’t know if they said something explaining it? I’m not a hockey fan, but do understand the fight is done when it hits the ice!
Paul Daley
I definately think what Daley did was wrong, but i feel like Dana used this just to get back at strikeforce for that incident. Not allowing him to ever fight in the ufc again is incredibly steep. Considering Dana has someone on his roster like Gilbert Yvel who likes to beat up referees and bite peoples ears, i think Dana made a stupid decision and he will live to regret. Daley was becoming to be a big draw from the UK audiences. But thats just my opinion.
" My style is Whoop that ass" - Rampage Jackson
also
lets not forget Jake Shields played a big part in the Strikeforce incident yet Dana insists on having some sort of orgasm every time he is mentioned. Dana is such a hipocrate.
" My style is Whoop that ass" - Rampage Jackson
Shields did nothing, unless a soft shove counts
All he did was watch his moment of glory get ruined by a moron then see his teammates beat the shit out of said moron whole he’s held back well before he had the chance to do anything. He also apologised for his part immediately. If anything Shields did the least, Mayhem caused the brawl and Gil and the Diaz Bros ended it.
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Congratulations Jake, Gil and Mo. From the only Maniac to pick all 3 of them.
by David W-S on May 10, 2010 9:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hell no
Talk is talk; that’s it, Miller didn’t put his hands on anybody; who cares what he had to say. That happens every day in all kinds of different sports; hell the shit happened at some music awards where Kanye West made an ass of himself; you didn’t see the crowd rush the stage to beat the shit out of him. So he got up and stole the mic and talk some shit for 10-15 seconds. Who cares, it’s not an excuse to jump the guy at all. Miller was not in the wrong for trying to market himself and get a rematch.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on May 10, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree. Miller did not deserve to get assaulted. He could press charges and be in the legal right but he wants to stay in MMA.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
DW
was fucking happy to see that happen because it makes SF look unprofessional an brings them down making the UFC look better!! that’s why he isn’t talking shit about shields because he helped make SF looked unprofessional and because he is on a big winning streak!
Psalm 144:1 Thank the LORD, my rock, who trained my hands to fight and my fingers to do battle,
by the chubbster on May 10, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
because page is a bigger draw than daley..
That and the timing….oh..and alotta guys hit after the guy is out…not saying its right..but in the hendo case he coulda said the ref hadn’t stopped him yet…hitting after the bell is a bit different..not justifying either of them
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
by salamagogo on May 10, 2010 9:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I dont buy it,
this is like cheating on your wife and then getting caught!! If Dana didnt give him the boot, he would not have apoligized!! He realized on the way home that he just bit the hand that fed him, it was a personal choice and an embarrassing one at that!! Paul Daley is an expendable nobody, the perfect guy to make an example of.. Mental growth should be his priority at this point!!
sorry for the hijack but i thought a lotta people would be interested in this
Roy nelson vs Junior Dos Santos in the works for 117
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on May 10, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
sweet
I wanna see dos santos land body shots on roy in slow mo…like that simpsons episode where they tap homers fat and it just keeps moving..
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
by salamagogo on May 10, 2010 10:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
dana still doesnt like nelson hey? lol geez
I thought nelson mir was way better. I liked the idea of keeping more options for Lesnar. But we’re definitely losing one of my favorite fighters in this match up. I like both a lot. But I suppose we have enough cans being given to the 205 contenders. I shouldn’t complain about a legit fight match up.
I heart BJ Penn
by daniel worby on May 10, 2010 11:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe
You may be right but the outcome is still too harsh! Dana could have come out and said I need to review this and decide what were gony do cos this shit ain’t acceptable in here. However I realise emotions get a hold of people..wel see what happens?!! U bet your ass if Brock had done this he ain’t gettin cut…fact!!
by the real mo on May 10, 2010 9:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Like I said,
he is an expendable nobody, Brock isnt nobody, he is $ signs! That said if Brock were to sucker someone he would probably have killed them!!!
We all know Dana might change his mind
Dana says a lot of things that dont always hold true, so I wont be shocked if Daley is back in the UFC one day.. I think kicking Daley out send a good message to the rest of the fighters that the ufc will not put up with late hits after the bell but after reading the comments you can find plenty of examples of late hits or submission that someone wouldn’t let go. So we can already see the ufc isnt consistent.
Should Dana be the one to police how the fighters act or should it be up to the athletic commissions to lay down the punishments? I would think that having the athlectic commissions would be the best way to go.
What would the ufc had done if Daley had won the fight and still thrown the late punch?
dana is an egotistical tyrant
And deserves to be sucker punched more so than kos
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
by salamagogo on May 10, 2010 9:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Foolish
Pointless post why am I wasting time with this comment of your silly silly post?
by the real mo on May 10, 2010 9:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe because deep down in some dark corner of your subconscience you agree
You just get that sucker to the designated place at the designated time, and I will gladly designate his ass... for DISMEMBERMENT!
by salamagogo on May 10, 2010 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
To hell with this nonsense.......
Let’s talk about Shogun!! Wow what a performance…..
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
go to a Shogun thread if you want to talk about Shogun
still not going anywhere...deal with it
Good one.
^^Sarcasm^^
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
ShoGun came in looking for his strap and want leaving without it
take that farmer
lol
I'm not afraid of dying, I'm a little bit scared of what comes after
by SouthCaliStunNa on May 10, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I loved it.
He deserved it after that awful decision last time………..
Oh, yes, Meg, yes-yes yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, THIS is the thing that will ruin your reputation, not your years of grotesque appearance, or your awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clear your sinuses, no no no, it's THIS. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight.
I say take him back
Daley has to many knockouts in his future to fire him
by theworldismine on May 10, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions
I just read something interesting
That pointed out that guys like Henderson and Rampage have continued to punch their opponents after knocking them out while knowing it. I know its kind of a bad argument, but also makes a lil sense. I guess it is due alot to the timing of the incident
by theworldismine on May 10, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions
They know when I guy is out,
its disturbing to me why anyone would continue to beat a corpse and then use the ref as excuse to keep doing it. Eventually someone is going to die in the Cage and then they will make changes, its how changes get made!!!
Zero Tolerance
John G. If you haven’t seen the fight, please in the nicest way I’m asking you to stay off the thread. Plus don’t ever use the words dry-humping to describe a fight (you haven’t even seen) Have you ever grappled before, or done any MMA? The fight was exactly what I predicted, Kos still shouldn’t be the #1 contender….It should be Kos vs. the winner of Fitch/Alves (but we all know Dana has to put GSP as a TUF coach to sell major canadien bucks) However I still don’t see Kos giving GSP any trouble, look what Kos and GSP have done and to whom since their first fight, GSP had way tougher opponents and has not lost
I posted this on BE this morning:
I seriously don’t think what Daley did was cool, or justifiable in any way, or that he should go unpunished. I just think its pretty hypocritical and a case of double standards by the UFC and Dana White, banning Daley for life.
The amount of times I’ve heard Dana use the whole ‘this isn’t baseball, this is fighting’ excuse for things when he’s trying to justify them. Well guess what Dana, this IS fighting, people get emotional, and aggression breeds aggression. You love it when people smack talk each other constantly, as it hypes the fights and sells more PPVs. Maybe the smack talk actually means something to some people sometimes and some people react to it badly. They are fighters, not politicians, executives etc…
Daley should be punished, but not to the extent they’re talking about. I’ll watch Semtex whatever organisation he’s in.
"Big guys, small gloves...somebody's gonna fall..." (Gabriel Gonzaga)
lol
yeah thats a BE post. really no opinion, scoot to one side of the argument but really stay neutral! How is it a double standard? when has Dana had someone throw a cheap shot after the bell and let them continue fighting?
In what respect is there no opinion.
You obviously didn’t read it. Im saying he shudn’t be punished to the extent of never fighting for the UFC again. I think we all know that if Mr Lesnar had done this, he’d have got a slap on the wrist (or the purse).
Maybe read posts properly before commenting that they have no opinion! Just to add- is that Nick Diaz in your picture? Im sure he was in a similar sort of incident recently??
"Big guys, small gloves...somebody's gonna fall..." (Gabriel Gonzaga)
the punishment is fine
and I think Lesnar would be made an example of too. Dana doesn’t care (in my opinion) about drawing power as much as groth of the sport (which equals growth in the wallet). If he did, he’d milk Kimbo, who is a draw!
I must say
I was so surprised he cut Kimbo after one loss considering his drawing power, so maybe you have a point. I think a more suitable punishment would have been something similar to testing positive for steroids, a fine and a lengthy suspension. The suspension would act as a test to see how much he really wanted to stay with the organisation.
I think there should be some guidelines, or an internal disciplinary body within the UFC to deal with incidents like this, and not just leave it to Dana’s discretion.
"Big guys, small gloves...somebody's gonna fall..." (Gabriel Gonzaga)
Ahh, right!
Im from the UK so there’s not much that is similar to this. Pretty much every sport has a governing body. Even the Premier League has to answer to the Football Association.
"Big guys, small gloves...somebody's gonna fall..." (Gabriel Gonzaga)
In what respect is there no opinion.
You obviously didn’t read it. Im saying he shudn’t be punished to the extent of never fighting for the UFC again. I think we all know that if Mr Lesnar had done this, he’d have got a slap on the wrist (or the purse).
Maybe read posts properly before commenting that they have no opinion! Just to add- is that Nick Diaz in your picture? Im sure he was in a similar sort of incident recently??
"Big guys, small gloves...somebody's gonna fall..." (Gabriel Gonzaga)
Posted This Somewhere Else Also
The guy was classless. If you want to get at Koscheck wait til the PPV is over. Get it on like Nick Diaz in the hospital. Hell challenge him privately at his gym. I understand his frustration but comparing this to Melo and the NBA is two different things. The UFC doesnt need the clown. People are saying Koscheck is a pussy really bugs me… none of you guys have been in there like him. He goes in there after im sure a hard training camp, goes in and competes and for the most part is successful. Any of you that call him a faker, pussy, etc what have you done for our sport… what have you done at all? Get that shit out of here. If you guys were glanced by a knee let alone hit full force you would be turtled up in the fetile position.
He didn't turtle up in the fetal position, he channeled Ric Flair. He was faking that completely.
If getting glanced by a knee when you are down hurt so bad then is everyone in Dream and Sengoku hunky dory after their fights?
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on May 10, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If You Watch Pride. Or Even watch Sakurai vs Aoki. Knees can really hurt people. He didnt turtle up your right but I bet you would have.
by AintNoSunshine on May 10, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not making light of it
But I am saying he was completely faking. Knees hurt whether you’re standing or not but the only person I believe got truly injured by a glancing blow like that was Varner when he had a detached retina.
by Swedish Chef smerdy herdy verdy on May 10, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually Varners Injuries Were Way Over Played
Kos was hit. As seen by swelling where the knee “Didnt” land and the cut after the “faked” impact. A glancing knee hurts like hell. Like i told the guy at the bar during the Kos/Rumble fight. Let me hit you with my knee in the face, or let me get really close and glance you with it. We will see how much “faking” is done
by AintNoSunshine on May 10, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree with ANS
that knee did get Kos an its shouldn’t really matter if it hit him or not. Just the simple fact that Daley went for it should be enough for the ref to get on him. Daley was going for the knee an he just missed but it doesn’t change the fact that he threw the knee. He attempted to hit him. In court if you try to murder someone it’s just as bad as if you go through with it if not sometimes worst.
Psalm 144:1 Thank the LORD, my rock, who trained my hands to fight and my fingers to do battle,
by the chubbster on May 10, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I completely agree with you about the Koscheck thing.
I’ve never liked the guy, but I have nothing but respect for him and how game he is to fight all the time! I also thought he was classy in his post fight interviews, considering the nature of what had happened in the fight and how soon after the fight he was speaking, when he might still be pissed off.
"Big guys, small gloves...somebody's gonna fall..." (Gabriel Gonzaga)
so you are crying about it right? about semtex jajaja asshole jajaja
Believe in the Power of One
Does anyone seriously think this is sincere?
Seriously? Sounds like something you say to your girlfriend when she catches you cheating on her. And if shes dumb enough to believe it, you’ll just cheat on her again. haha Any intelligent person knows that yes people do make mistakes, but if you still trust them after, you’re a moron and a tool. Forgiveness for making mistakes isn’t a get out of jail free card so people can do whatever they want and not be held accountable. Daley had lots of time on his plane to consider how this was gonna fuck up his career. He was caught already so would have to be a fool not to come out with some Im so sorry, I know what I did was wrong bs line that sounded like lyrics to a fuckin’ creed song. If he was sincere, he wouldn’t have done it in the first place.

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