MMA Quick Quote: Mariusz Pudzianowski likes to hit big, soft people like Tim Sylvia
by Jesse Holland on Apr 7, 2010 10:31 AM EDT
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"Tim Sylvia is already past his prime, so the only thing he thinks about is the paycheck after the fight. When I’ll take him down and start landing my bombs, he will lose every desire to get up. His handshake at the press conference made me realize that he has a very soft body. I like big and soft people, they are fun to hit. I have to be careful from his striking in the early minutes of the fight, but I am still very confident that it will be a great victory. In two years from now, I would love to fight Fedor Emelianenko. He will rip my head off if we fight today, but in two years it could be a different story. It will be very interesting to see the bookmaker's odds for that fight."
Five-time World's Strongest Man, Mariusz Pudzianowski, tells LowKick.com that he's going to have fun beating on former UFC Heavyweight Champion Tim Sylvia at the upcoming Moosin event on May 21 in Worcester. The Polish powerhouse has a lot to prove before he's considered a serious threat in this sport -- but that hasn't stopped him from eying a future fight with heavyweight deity Fedor Emelianenko. Anyone think the muscular menace has the chops to make it as a full-time fighter?
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1st things 1st
This picture fukn rules! Made me lol.
2nd:
Fedor? Oh snap! C’mon Pudz, you better dominate Timmy.
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 7, 2010 10:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Would be more challenging tfor Fedor than Hong Man but thats not saying much
I want to see this event anyway thats for sure
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
K-1 level striker with over a foot height advantage may be more of a challenge than a guy with a slight reach advantage that drops his hands with every strike and has very little combat sports experience.
Most likely it would end the same way, Fedor via armbar. Anyway, glad Pudz has lofty goals but is being realistic.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
k-1 level striking?
You think Sylvia has k-1 level striking? Really? Semmy would obliterate him.
Was talking to Puck Head, and I was talking about Hong Man Choi.
Nothing I said was about Sylvia, and Fedor ended that fight with a rear naked anyway. But to answer your question, I know that Sylvia is not a K-1 level striker. HMC on the other hand has quite a bit of K-1 experience.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
My bad.
My hate for Sylvia was blinding me lol.
That being said. I don’t think HMC has k-1 level striking either, he’s just a really big fucker. Unlike Semmy who is also big but can actually strike.
I hear you
HMC actually beat Schilt in a K-1 match, but I get your point. Basically you’re saying IF HMC wasn’t so damn big he would get mauled at that level? But because he’s so big he’s able to do well?
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
Exactly.
kinda like how Timmy is so big in MMA terms that his lack of talent can be masked by his size. Semmy is a big guy, he he’s still only a lil munchkin compared to HMC in sheer size. It’s like me fighting a ten year old boy who’s a black belt in everything, I’m still gonna kick his ass cus i’m a big fella and he’s tiny.
He said two years
If he trains hard (and with the right people) and fights alot thats not outside the realm of possibility.
by Lester The Pimp on Apr 7, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Cuz all it takes is guys training hard for 2 yrs to be competitive with Fedor
My breakout fighter for this coming year: Terry Etim
Upset of the Year: John Hathaway over Diego Sanchez
"Yeah, hes getting molested here." -Joe Rogan at UFC on VS 1
by Synyster_08 on Apr 7, 2010 10:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
haters meeting
Geez you guys act like there isn’t 40 UFC threads for every 3-5 non UFC threads. Stick to your one track minds you’ve been “blessed” with and let the rest of us discuss this.
I’m glad to hear Pudz has goals. I was wondering how serious he was thinking, mma future wise.
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 7, 2010 11:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Haha, sorry, couldn’t resist that comment. I’m not one to troll but I couldn’t resist myself on this occasion.
I’m always keen to follow what goes on outside the UFC but freakshow fights don’t inspire me to serious discussion and at this point of Puds career how can we call it anymore then that when he is fighting Timmy? I hope he can transcend the realms of freakshow but I have a feeling that he could just be a flash-in-the-pan, easy-to-market fighter.
I don’t mind these so-called freakshow fights. It’s still man against man, two different guys presenting their own specific problems for the other. It’s also good for Puds because if he’s in this for the long haul, fighting a former champ will get him noticed. It won’t garner that much respect if Sylvia has degenerated into bloated beastly status, but it’s a a scalp nonetheless. Either way, he has more potential than Ray Mercer has.
The only thing that troubles me is that gif below which doesn’t exactly do him any favors when it comes to making him seem like a threat. Any worthwhile guy would have tagged him three times over in that exchange.
I’ll give him credit that he has a high intensity and it was only his first fight. He could prove to be a good fighter.
If you dont think the worlds strongest man even has a chance to beat Fedor after 2 years of intense mma training
Then youre fucking stupid.
by Lester The Pimp on Apr 7, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
or you are naive.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Damn he's a beast
just needs to keep those hands up and throw some punch’s but goddamn brutal kicks
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 7, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
That fight always makes me laugh.
Chasing the guy around like he’s a soccer ball!
But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies. - Kenny Powers
Is that at regular speed?
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by enzo-enormous on Apr 7, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
huh? Are you?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
It was a joke Mac ;)
enzo-enormous
http://blog.ohsoawesome.com
by enzo-enormous on Apr 7, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I was joking too...why have you neglected to make picks in the pool?
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Ive just been super busy...
I started a company in the last month and have been spending all my time with that. I will be more active if I get a chance to step back in the running sometime. I just got internet at my place of business thanks to a little linux and a creative mind with a wireless card…
enzo-enormous
http://blog.ohsoawesome.com
by enzo-enormous on Apr 7, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
ok cool...just wanted to make sure you still wanted to play
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Am I still in?
I assumed I was dropped for inactivity
enzo-enormous
http://blog.ohsoawesome.com
by enzo-enormous on Apr 7, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
your in cause your a regular..I have dropped a few guys cause I don't recognize their names or they are only around on weekends
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Ah nice
I will be making sure to post my picks then. Thanks for mentioning this Mac. I appreciate it
enzo-enormous
http://blog.ohsoawesome.com
by enzo-enormous on Apr 7, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Mac
Any chance I could get into the pool man?
GSP is the man!
by Pour out a lil liquor on Apr 7, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
ya man...a very good chance...make your picks in my fanpost thread. There will be a couple guys eliminated due to not playing after this event
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
Wait Mac... I don't understand
I was trying to join the pool in like the 3rd event and came short (3 instead of 4) for your minimum stay-in-the-pool requirement.
And now months later you are letting someone else into the pool? I would have loved to be in this whole time…
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
there wasn't space
guys who have made poor picks have all but given up and have not been playing…I’m not letting new guys in but only replacing them with guys like you who will play every event…go to the pick’em thread and read the top….the cut after this event is 10…freenow would be #3 meaning if 3 guys get eliminated…your in…make your picks and hope that anyone under 10 points, stays under 10 points…..
There are 3 guys I’d like to get in. 1st will be Yan117, then Por out a lil liquer, then freenow. It won’t be a problem as long as you play every event.
Fedor invented a language that incorporates Sambo and Kimuras.
So next time FEDOR is kicking your ass, don't be offended or hurt, he may be just trying to tell you he likes your hat.
will do. thx.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Awesome!
Thanks Mac!
GSP is the man!
by Pour out a lil liquor on Apr 7, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
is that sped up?
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood"
by wolfmanshowlforever on Apr 7, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
dude come on...
Mariusz Pudzianowski is an incredible athlete, he’s not just some meat head body builder, he is capable of physical feets that no other MMA HW in the world would even come close to. who knows what could happen after 2 years.
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on Apr 7, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
That's true I guess.
I am looking forward to seeing this dude fight. He needs to really buckle down if he wants to be competitive with Fedor within 2 years.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Some of you guys forget one thing:
Pudzianowski is full of shit, steroids, growth hormons ect.
If he even thinks remotely of competing with the best HW, he has to come off the juices.
If he comes off the juices, he looses at least 50 pounds.
He will be still stronger than all other HWs, but I can tell you, Pudzan with 265 pounds is a different story.
Apart from that, one of those legkicks against a top HW would lead to a cracking fist on his chin and probably ko him.
Pudz hasn't tested postive
He’s competed in the states many times. Guys a freak of nature.
by d*locc on Apr 7, 2010 2:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He was
He initially finished third in the WSM contest in 2004 but was later disqualified after testing positive for a banned performance enhancing substance. He was forced to return his prize money, stripped of the International Federation of Strength Athletes points from the event, and received a one-year ban from competition.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Right from wiki d*locc copy and pasted
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
funny you said that synyster, this black dude with a mohawk who used to work at sams club comes to mind now…
by randy murders on Apr 7, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
how long did lesner train before he became champ based on his physical gifts? would he be a challenge for lesner???
by Conan the Barbarian on Apr 7, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Lesnar has trained since childhood in wrestling and was an NCAA div1 champ. Not the same thing at all.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
Yep MM Eh it's funny how some fans see him as just a WWF character
Without realizing this guys was one of the best HW wrestlers(real wrestling) that has entered MMA. Itt’s much more than physical gifts, Brock also has competed at a sport known to be a great base in MMA, the physical gifts just make him that much better.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
i'm pretty sure being the strongest mother fucker in the world isn't a bad base for fighting. i'm no expert, i'm just saying.
by Conan the Barbarian on Apr 7, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
If the object of the sport was to throw your opponent out of the octogon and into the 10th row, or to throw them into a wheelbarrow and cart them around I would agree with you. I’m not saying he doesn’t have a chance againts Tim or that he’s not a gifted athlete, but he has no fighting/combat experience what so ever compared to Brock.
Myth: Three Americans die every year from rabies. Fact: Four Americans die every year die from rabies.
lol
but it sure the hell can’t hurt..
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 7, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
pudz is the strongest freaking man in the world!!!!!!!!! i wouldn't pick a fight with him and i bet most mma fighters would pause before they answered that question as well.
his strenghth will allow him to dominate fighters the same way a wrestler uses his grappling skill to do so. i think they are very similar.
by Conan the Barbarian on Apr 7, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Conan your wrong
Wrestling their is much technique used and I understand those that don’t understand wrestling can’t see the technique being used. It’s simply not just power used. As leverage balance, timing, body positioning, exposion, and knowlege. If it was simply to do with strength Bob Sapp would have a much better record.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I don't know Puck, I mean when you think about it..
5 Times WORLD STRONGEST MAN, I mean these guys are in a league of their own strenght wise, he will toy with anyone who wants to get in close imo, throw them around like a rag doll. WSM means something, not your average strong guy but WSM is some serious shit.
All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed.
Some of those guys in the past have tried out for football mainly O-line men
And have got destroyed, some have made it but their strengths are not shown becasue there technique is weak. Wrestling has proven time and time agaisn to be a great base for MMA because the ability to control the fight. And wrestling these guys competed at a simple task of bring another man to the ground and the other man trying to do the same but as simple as that task sounds the development and teqnique used is complicated and something that years and years of training are needed to do what Brock has done in wrestling.
From the takedown to defending the takedown wrestlers have dominated MMA in those two phases for the most part. You look at Pudz throwing those wild legs above he throws one of those against an accomplished wrestler he wil be on his back faster than you can say Pudz. Wrestlers are trained to use their opponents momentum against them to help takedowns and Pudz looks like I guy that can go only one direction and this would make it even more easy for a guy like Brock, Carwin or even Cain. Pudz is more like a stronger faster version of tank Abott with worse technique though.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I ain't passing judgement till after this fight.
All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed.
not a great arguement puck head. your wonderboy wrestler lesner also couldn't hack it as a pro football player.
i have seen nfl linemen try out for strongmen and fail miserably as well.
i wouldn’t call pudz a version of anybody that we have seen in mma before. this guy picks up cars for christ sakes! he tosses around round 300lb stones easily. that freakisasset isn’t his wrestling, but his strength. it isn’t lesners wrestling base that allows him to do damage from the guard while chest to chest against his oppponent, it is his strength. where is wrestling do they teach you six inch hammer fists?
technique can be taught, and pudz has a super freakish physical base to biuld off of. i realize that wrestlig is mostly technique, i’ve been frustrated by smaller guys who knew how to wrestle, they gave me all i could handle, but after a few months of learning some tricks and technique, my strength difference more than compensated for their years of experience.
by Conan the Barbarian on Apr 7, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
If Brock was younger he would of made it no problem but at 30
He would of not seen the field until he was 33-35, to old in football years. Wrestling technique can not be taught Conan I understand it looks simple but it’s not. The muscles used in Strong man are not the same as in wrestling for a large part anyway. Brock has years of training a few months will not cut it sorry man.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
wrestling can not be taught????? ha,ha,ha,ha, then how do people learn to wrestle?
it looks like pudz muscles served him well in his first fight. lets see if he is able to dominate timmy on the ground.
by Conan the Barbarian on Apr 8, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
The development of Brocks wrestling is over 15 years of training
The muscles he has are trained to grapple and have been used and tested for years along with their teqneque. Sure you can learn a bit, but to make it simple for you what I mean by my statement, if you never played a game of basketball in your life you could still learn to play but your not going to be on the level that the pro’s are hell you won’t be on the level the high school basketball players are. If you never skated in your life you can learn to play hockey too. Same goes for wrestling as those sports do Conan. Yes Pudz can learn to grapple but he will never be on the level the best are especially the wrestlers. His strength might allow him to look good against certain guys in the grapple but against someone at the level and size of Brock he would get destroyed.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
if you were compareing two equal guys apples to apples then i would agree. But we are talking about the world's strongest man here.
with pudz’s amazing strength and athletic ability, a small amount of technique will make a vast improvement in his game. assume lebron james picked up another sport instead of bsketball and never started playing until his senior year in high school. i’m pretty sure after six months he could beat the crap out of a junior high starting 8th grade allstar. he just has the natural gifts. i am comparing a senior in high school to a junior high athlete because that is an accurate representation of the gulf in strength that exists between pudz and other mma fighters.
by Conan the Barbarian on Apr 8, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
No you have to compare apples to apples
He is a 265# fighter wich means he will have to cut weight in any established org. Just because Matt Hammill can bench more than Jon Jones doesn’t mean he can beat him. When we are talking strong man competition we are talking about lifting a heavy object or pulling or pushing a Heavy object. The muscles used in strong man does not mean they are the same muscles used in MMA.
Brock if he trained at strong man maybe could do well but he will never be better than somneone trains for 15 years most likely and the same goes for Pudz he will never be able to compete at wrestling against the best, yeah he might be able to take on somone half his size but not anyone near his size. His muscles are trained for short heavy lifts and would fatigue much faster than somone thats muscles are trained for endurance like a wrestlers.
But anyway I’m done with this convo and I’m confident the truth will come out, how about you Conan?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
sure, agree to dissagree
his kicks looked hard enough to me. i guess sqautting a truck does translate to kicking power.
i believe we will see pudz destroy silva in embarrassing fashion.
by Conan the Barbarian on Apr 8, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Something tells me that Pud will win here even though timmy should easily beat him up.
Giant jacked dudes with stubby arms are easy fodder for someone who can pancake them and bust them up standing or jab them to death. We also know that no matter how much they talk about their cardio, they always gas. Imagine Jeff Monson who is a seriously credentialed grappler. Pud is a crappier but stronger version of him more power. But your technique sucks and can’t reach your target what does that mean. With how rigid Marius was in his first fight and probly will be in his next five fights, bad matchup. The leg kicks won’t matter because Timmah stays flat footed but actually fires as guys go for his legs instead of a weak ass check. Though i doubt this fight will happen. Promoter is shady as fuck and has only run one show before in Korea.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Apr 7, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
First off Pudz is a freak World Strong man, none of them look like him they are all just large guys
And World Strong man isn’t just “How much can you bench?” Gym rats don’t even contend in these things. It’s total body strength and cardio.
Agreed.
And possibly no fighter in the world will be more explosive in short bursts. These guys do crazy shit with extremely heavy weights (more than Sylvia weighs).
Keg Toss – Competitors must throw kegs, of increasing weight, over a 14’6" high steel wall
Farmer’s Walk – Competitors carry heavy objects weighing from 275&ndassh;375 lbs in each hand for a set distance, and compete for the fastest time. A variation involves use of a heavy frame with parallel handles
Shit the dude can lift up a Timmy in each hand and walk like that. Sylvia is toast.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Exactly! And pudz dominates these guys in these events
Pulling fire trucks and air planes, the atlas stones etc etc, total body strength and endurance. If he trained BJJ and Wrestling like he trained for strong man he’d be a top hw
agreed.
And I really hope he does. I mean you gotta have extreme work ethic to do the strongman shit. I hope it translates.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
If strongmen had a chance to be awesome at MMA just because they're good at lifting things....
then why isn’t Jimmy Ambriz even remotely good? In order to lift timmy, he’ll have to close in on him or shoot from afar. Now i know Mariusz can’t wrestle or even in the clinch, his game will mostly be straight power and no technique. All you gotta do is watch his training vids to see how green he is. Regardless in both cases, timmy either feeds him jabs and rights or pancakes his giant frame.
by NNR (formerly NameNotRequired) on Apr 7, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
You couldn't be more wrong.
Marius is fast and will instantly close distance. Timmie is too slow at this point and his jab will just fly by a rushing Pudz, then its goodnight for Sylvia real soon as he is just gonna get mauled.
Let’s SIG-bet this if you think Timmie takes it.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
What if Timmy wins, then what for Pudz?
I see everybody counting Timmy out but if Timmy is actually training he has skillz and size to compete with Pudz. I know the Timmy of the last couple years couldn’t but if any of the old Timmy comes out he could very easily take this fight himself. I know it’s a big if but man the way some of you are building up Pudz and bringing down Timmy means if Pudz loses he sucks? Pudz doesn’t equal a victory based on strength alone against Timmy.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I think in this case it does equal a vitory.
Pudz sucking at fighting is a fact. So if he loses to Timmy he still sucks, nothing changes.
But I am of the very strong opinion that at this point in Timmie’s career he is too slow and weathered to stop a rush from that short-burst explosive maniac strong man. That’s all.
I don’t think with his strength he needs “skills” to fuck Tim up. I am not saying that he would necessarily beat any other legit HW.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Ya no one is arguing Pudz is super green and needs a ton of work
We are saying people are really ignorant as to what kind of athlete he really is and that Tim is fat and washed up and Pudz should easily overwhelm him.
agreed...
Pud’s face is wide open when he’s throwing those kicks in the above gif. You would think Tim would want to stifle those kicks with his reach. Who knows, should be entertaining to watch at least.
Tim is old and slow.
He can’t stop such a rush. It’s gonna me a 2 minute slaughter.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Some of you guys forget one thing:
Pudzianowski is full of shit, steroids, growth hormons ect.
If he even thinks remotely of competing with the best HW, he has to come off the juices.
If he comes off the juices, he looses at least 50 pounds.
He will be still stronger than all other HWs, but I can tell you, Pudzan with 265 pounds is a different story.
Apart from that, one of those legkicks against a top HW would lead to a cracking fist on his chin and probably ko him.
WAR PUDZIANOWSKI!!!!
big Tim will have to land flush and precise right on the temple with everything that he has, or else Pudz is going to maul him, it’s like a pitbull fighting a great dane.
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on Apr 7, 2010 10:37 AM EDT reply actions
The strength and size of a mans neck impacts greatly on his ability to take a punch
Pudzianowski has one hell of a neck! I appreciate that he has never been tested in that way, but I reckon Tim is fucked.
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on Apr 7, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
OMG he's right!
ANYONE can be knocked out! So why discuss anyone? Well that spells the end of Mania. Its been fun guys.
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 7, 2010 10:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
sorry its just frustrating to me is all
Its like the line to end all discussions. “Anyone can be knocked out”. Of course they can, now where do we go from here? Its like saying “Anything can happen”. Yes, very true, so we end it all with that? Or we ignore it and build our own hypothesis based on what we’ve seen from each fighter?
I prefer the latter.
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 7, 2010 1:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Your own hypothesis is based on what??
Since so little is known about Pud. Cardio? Chin? Really the gif is almost laughable. No technique, hands down, recklessly pursuing an opponent, and so on. What ever happened to watching the fight and THEN discussing the aftermath instead of some childish ranting to prove to the “internet world” that you have a vast knowledge of mma???
"What ever happened to watching the fight and THEN discussing the aftermath "
Okay so then you need not comment til after the fight, in your own words. See ya squirt.
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 7, 2010 2:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i wasn't giving an opinion as to who i thought would win....
i was simply refuting an argument to a post. Maybe you’d like to add an “oh snap” comment to your last post??? Sounds right up your alley
now why would i need to add that?
You’ve offered nothing to the conversation, yet you attempt to peddle it on to me as if that was my intent. Your know all end all “anyone can be ko’d” is just silly. You want to diagnose and weigh in on what you think should be the outcome of the fight go for it. Otherwise don’t sh*t on our parade for doing so. 75-85% of this site is “ifs, ands, or buts”, so that’s what we’ll continue to do here.
Ya a lot of Pudz future still remains to be seen, but that doesn’t mean we can’t speculate on where its headed. Or break down the gameplan of his opponent since some ppl around here seem to have heard of him. Just cause Pudz is a bit of an unknown doesn’t mean we can’t look toward the recent past of Tim and what we’ve seen of Pudz to figure out where this fight may be headed.
Sorry, I should’ve just put the standard “Agreed” under your “anyone can get knocked out” post, and pumped your tires for you.
Well done in there today Cody.
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 7, 2010 2:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i made an obvious statement. I wasn’ t looking for kudos. Then I didn’t appreciate your childish remark. You jumped in being a smartass when I wasn’t disrespecting anyone. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself
I slap you, I slap you, I slap slap slap you, I'm slappin ya silly cause ya disrespected me!
by O damn he got caught on Apr 7, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
enzo-enormous
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by enzo-enormous on Apr 7, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
He wasn't?! Oh shit I was bout 2 wrap it up =D
Gdam worby that was funny. Lol
by d*locc on Apr 7, 2010 4:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well really lol.
I offered the man an apology, and he clearly saw my 1st post on the thread and took me as an uneducated comedian not capable of making coherent wise thoughts. Silly him. He took his opportunity to “expose” me. Whoops.
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 8, 2010 1:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I've read more than just your first post.
I generally choose not to comment on any thread. Mainly because of children like you.
Fedor would prob take that fight now...
If he means he can keep dodging proper competition!
trust me
one of the physically strongest men on the whole fucking planet, technique or no is proper competition. try fishing for under hooks or for that metter even breathing, when this guy gets hold of you!
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on Apr 7, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
i doubt Pudz would get hold of and control fedor for long enough to lock it in
but that’s fedor, I was trying to make the point that pudz IS a dangerous guy. However, a big, slow, lumbering Tim… not beyond the realms of possibility.
Never before, have I so clearly heard the sound of a face breaking...
by Spinning Fat Kick on Apr 7, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Althought this is strange
Im really startin to like this Pud dude
looks like timmys been eatin too much
Pud…..ber dum chhhh
"In Japan, the crowd is quiet, this one time I heard a cute girl fart in the second row." - Rampage Jackson
by Rampagelangford on Apr 7, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Hihi
I like this match up :) Gonna pick up Tim and smash him to the ground just like the tree barks they used to flip over in strong man competitions
Conan : You are known as a striker. Is that correct? Tell me what that means.
Chuck : Well I like to punch people, or kick them.
He looks like he's been modeled on the old Hans und Franz characters
I am strong und muscular while Tim is soft und flabby like a poop-filled diaper.
The weather is here, I wish you were beautiful
+1
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Against Timmy.....
…I would give my grandmother decent odds. C’mon Tim, what have you shown us lately?
Hercules is gonna rip the spinal column out of Sylvias back that night...
Just to much power and speed…beyond freakish…once he gets a lil more experiance underneath his belt hes really gona hurt somebody..BAD…and its going to be a recognizable fighter well respected…remember my words.
FATALITY!
The world is a dangerous place to live - not because of the people who are evil but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein
Ulf, bringing that Old Skool Flava.
Friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty. Only enemies speak the truth.
-Stephen King
by OJR on Apr 7, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Why does brock get shit for being a roid filled freak, but.......
by freedomthrtyfve on Apr 7, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions
Good question, but Pudz is probably getting a pass because he's not past "freak-show" status at this point.
If he starts beating some legit fighters I would assume(and hope) people would start raising their eyebrows at his extraordinary physique.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson
freedomthrtyfve
Thats a good question but the fact remains Brock has yet to test positive for anything and the remarks that he does do them are from ignorant posters with no facts behind their statements just a disbelief that a man can get to his size with and athleitic ability with no help. Pudz on the other hand has tested positive and there has been remarks against him but because he’s not on the big stage you don’t hear as much.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Yep
But as long as he gets of the juice and doesn’t test positive in the US, I don’t care. All we can trust is the current tests which the Americans are administering. So anyone who fights here and tests negative is OK in my book. I don’t care that at some point they used Steroids to build out their frame.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
I agree everyone deserves a second chance
I’m kind of against third chances though like Barnett.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Ya Barnett makes me sick.
At least Pudz manned up to it and didn’t even contest it, but Barnett has tested positive 3 times and has never even admitted it. I just saw an interview with him yesterday where he says his supplements must be tainted. That’s just so douche….
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Tim looks like a beast in that pic!
How the hell can any1 do anything if pudz gets a hold of U? Tim is guna try & use his reach & cardio for sure. Pudz shud do a minowaman roll 2 start off the fight =D
by d*locc on Apr 7, 2010 11:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
tim’s gonna use his cardio to beat Mariusz? what cardio? and even if tim had respectable cardio at this point, do you not think a multiple time WSM has cardio?
That's a good point
That WSM competition is stop go stop go, short intervals of explosive strength/movement then short breaks, it’s probably not a bad transition training wise.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 7, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Or better yet, a Diego Yes-Wheel
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Because freedomthrtyfv....
he said Fedor wud rip his head off so now hes ok in all the fedor fans eyes coz they are so far up his ass its not even funny!
go do work son.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Hahaha
He used his name to make a pun! GREAT!
Conan : You are known as a striker. Is that correct? Tell me what that means.
Chuck : Well I like to punch people, or kick them.
i too appreciated the clever use of his screen name transformation to a pun.
Quite enjoyable. Enjoyable it ’twas for I. Go Fedor and such.
World Worb 3
by daniel worby on Apr 7, 2010 1:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey...
If Brock Lesnar can come into the sport, have 3 can fights, a 40 year old man, Frank Mir, and win by laying on people and doing his best masturbation imitation…
Why can’t Pudz waltz into a weak HW division and get instant respect? I know he doesn’t have the wrestling fanboi angle but what the hell.
LOL
Randy a can and Mir Really? LOL Are you really that ignorant Leman?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
He is not that wrong...
Randy is a can at heavyweight, at best a gatekeeper. I would pick any of the top heavyweights to beat him including midrangers like Kongo and he lost to Nog recently and we all know how Nog did against Mir/Cain.
Mir is a legit win but they split their meetings so the verdict is not out yet.
All in all Brock had a less than impressive run, but I’ll be the last one to claim his instant respect isn’t deserved, just look at my sig…
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Really freenow82
Randy is a can at heavyweight,
Really!?
Sorry man but I disagree, he is around the same as a Werdum or AA now but no can. The man is the same size as Fedor when he is at HW and can throw around big guys like GG and Timmy as we have seen. I think him and Werdum are two great technical fighters that would be a great fight? They both lack the strength Fedor has and the bigger guys but technique wise are still amongst the best. NOG surprised Randy with his stand up for sure and the difference in the fight was the stand up on the ground that fight was one of the best ground wars I have seen in a long time and NOG can give anyone problems on the ground. Now is Couture a top five in the HW, no but he is close.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Ya, calling him a can was too strong
But there are so many great heavyweights out there that he is middle-tier when you think about possible Brock opponents.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Right now I would say in the UFC
1) Brock
2) Cain
3) Carwin
4) JDS
Above four close in talent and great fights , below drops off slightly but still has a decent chance against above
5)Mir
6)NOG
below drops off slightly
7) Roy Nelson
8) Couture
9) Kongo
10) Yvel
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
wow
How can brock be ahead of guys with more fights and more impressive wins?
Because he fought Randy fucking Couture?
Easy he's the champion
Who has Carwin beat that is considered good GG and Mir, Mir who beat NOG who lsot to Brock, or GG who lsot to Randy? OK well maybe not Carwin ok lets go down the list. Cain best opponent has been Kongo and NOG well we all know NOG lsot to Mir and Kongo got destroyed by Mir. OK another bad example Mybe JDS his last fight was GG?? Ok Yvel?? No still not comparable to Randy let alone Mir OK who are you talking about Leman that has such impressive wins Cain beat NOG but so did Mir and had troubles against Kongo were Mir destroyed Kongo, I know Cain is improving but his wins are not impressive as Brocks who di it against higher ranked fighters in his first five fights!!
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
I think...
that if Brock gets by Carwin, my long term sig is guaranteed to come to fruition. I think Dos Santos and Cain are both way too small and would just get run over in the first.
Lesnar > [Carwin] ---> Lesnar > [Velasquez] ---> Lesnar > [JDS]
Overeem will NOT show up on May 15th! Mark my words. Sig stays til then.
Yeah they are the monsters of the UFC
Cain has heart but I doubt he can take either one and JDS I have yet to see be tested in the clinch or on the ground and that would change against all three of these guys.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
hmm
Randy isn’t like Fedor at all.
Fedor knocks people out, Randy doesn’t.
Randy has no killer instinct and just cage and prays.
He's the same size
I know soem will start saying Randy is small so I wanted to make sure and point out he is the same size as Fedor. If you read the rest you would see I compared Randy more to a Werdum as they are weaker than Fedor. Look at Rogers and the problems he gave Fedor not bad for a man that was two years earlier changing tires for a living, imagine if Rogers had a wrestling back ground?
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
It is great how you always talk so highly of Brock then bash Fedor. i am a fan of both trust me its just funny :)
by Kayo on Apr 7, 2010 3:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Its just funny how people put Brock above Fedor. I know anything can happen in a fight but Puck do u really believe Fedor would really lose against Mir and Randy and shall i say Herring??
by Kayo on Apr 7, 2010 3:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ya i think it's hilarious too
Fedor has at least beat the best at their best. Brock never has. Yet people still bash him lol. Fedor has a proven ground/submission game and awesome chin and stand up. Brock doesn’t. Fedor has proved a lot more yet people still bash him over a guy who has proven nothing.
well
Dana White has a lot of people brainwashed.
Just like he feeds his champs easy fights so he can say they are P4P best, he let brock have that belt with easy matchmaking to make money.
Fedor does his thing fighting whoever is out there and people talk shit.
LMAO
Wow this is ignorant… just wow
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 7, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok lets compare Brocks first 5 fights of his carreer to Fedor's..
He’s got one can, then Mir x 2, Heath Herring and Randy Couture; who did Fedor fight his first five fights?? Without going to wikipedia I doubt very many ppl here if anyone could name them, but the only name on there is Ricardo Arona, and it was Arona’s 3rd fight in his carreer and Fedor’s 4th. So fighting on PPV, against experienced veterans, 2 of them former Champs in your first five fights somehow proves NOTHING???
A look at their overall Carreers and yes Fedor has done a hell of a lot more cause he’s been around a hell of a lot longer; but as to who is #1 right here and right now today?? You could have it either way and I wouldn’t argue with you, I can see an argument for boh sides.
"Wanderlei Silva; hallowed be thy name." - Genesis 50:27
by O damn he got caught on Apr 7, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Another thing there were not near the amount of fighters then as there are now
Back then there were many Tank Abbot type fighters with little back ground in MMA. Closest person with Brocks talents to compare to are Barnett minus Barnett Jj but Brock makes up for that with his GnP and athletic ability.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
yeah, Fedor beat the best at their best like 3 or 4 years ago
he’s not the fighter he used to be. Plus he’s very small.
Calu
Who did Fedor beat again? Two fighter out of how many in his first twenty fights at HW anyway that had more than 5 fights in experience.
YEah I know Fedor fought a LHW in Arona in his 12th fight but Arone was not a HW.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
There is no doubt that pudz has all the natural or unnatural talent in the world but he definately is not the fighter brock is, lets not do that to brock. That old man was couture and Mir is Mir and Heath herring is a very good well traveled fighter, u must have never watched pride Leman and Brock destroyed them. Pudz would have to wrestle for ever to get to where Brock was in high school. let alone his NCAA champoin level.
Sylvia is washed up as long as Pudz doesnt walk into 1 he should b fine for this fight but i wonder what happens when he fights some1 worth fighting.
Tired of Fedor not fighting the best, Rampage please kill "Sugar", Damian Maia vs Spyder = spyder vs tales leites horrible fight and finally carwin vs lesnar will happen thank you god some1 besides Mir
good point
I’ve never been a big brock fan but we all know the answer to that question. Even if you don’t have mad skills you can go far in this sport if people love or hate you. Same reason jardine and leben haven’t been cut yet..recognition is almost as important as skill in this sport and why a lot won’t take it seriously…the “entertainment factor” if you will
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by salamagogo on Apr 7, 2010 3:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
but both those guys have skill to. Jardine is probably the most overlooked fighter in MMA. That dude has serious skills look at the fight against chuck. Yeah the alexander fight really hurt but oh well. And leben is better than people give credit but the main thing with leben is he will stand there and trade with anybody and everybody likes that
Tired of Fedor not fighting the best, Rampage please kill "Sugar", Damian Maia vs Spyder = spyder vs tales leites horrible fight and finally carwin vs lesnar will happen thank you god some1 besides Mir
damn got way off base there i guess but with a tim sylvia fight thread that probably happens lots. Tims gonna get knocked out, lets move on… lol
Tired of Fedor not fighting the best, Rampage please kill "Sugar", Damian Maia vs Spyder = spyder vs tales leites horrible fight and finally carwin vs lesnar will happen thank you god some1 besides Mir
will sylvia last longer than he did vs mercer? that is the question.
there is no way he can run like that other guy. i say he hits the canvas in 10 seconds.
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by wolfmanshowlforever on Apr 7, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I would like to see what Tim looks like now
If he’s been training I think it will be a decent fight, if the same tim shows up that showed up to the Mercer fight you could easily be right.
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson
Really? Pudz is getting Alot of Hate.
This guy is not fighting anyone worth a damn. IF you are talking Athletes this man is a DAMN good Athlete. If your saying an MMA fighter hes a wildcard. No technique but the amount of strength he is able to possess is unknown to be honest. Acting like hes going to fight Brock Lesnar tommorow is ridiculous. He can obviously work a strict and difficult training pattern for years to become 5 time WSM. So who says he cant transfer to an MMA style to fit his high explosive strength? We see time and time a great wrestler lay and pray and do fine at it. Why cant someone who overwhelms most people find a great set of coaches keep training and become a good MMA star? He doesnt need to be the next BROCK LESNAR IM CHAMPION 3 fights. But…He isnt wanting to. He doesnt have that wrestling background right now hes fighting shit fights just to get experience and knowin. He will be someone if he trains like he is obviously able to. Throw him in American Top Team(big strong GnP guys) and he will be something to always see and watch. That kind of power with a good boxing coach is scary. Chin or not. 4 Oz gloves dont stop fist. Brocks Standup leads to all his victories not just his wrestling…..His hand size and his power not his “perfect boxing technique”…watch this guy
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