e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism
1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.
a. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
b. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.
Where exactly does elitism belong in MMA fansites/community/fans? The answer to this is nowhere, same as everywhere else.
I've been a comic book geek my entire life. Go ahead, laugh, I know it's sort of funny, hell, I'll laugh with you. I love comic books and I probably know more backstory and family history about Bruce Wayne then I do my own family. But you know what? I think all of you should go out and start reading comics, I think it would be awesome, and that one thing separates me from the majority of comic book geeks out there.
Most of the elite scoff when somebody mixes up the name of their favorite superhero or doesn't quite know what he's talking about. Me? I help them out, show them what's good and what to read. Why? I love the business, I want it to succeed and I think it's awesome to attract new fans.
What's disturbing is the same elitist garbage I've seen in comics is now prevalent in MMA due to the success of the UFC. Some people out there think that just because they liked it before anybody else did, or watched fucking Pride, or don't laugh when somebody farts they should be the only ones able to enjoy this great sport or thing they're somehow better than everyone else.
There was recently a fanpost on BloodyElbow.com that basically consisted of a "long-time member" preaching about what is ok and not ok to post in the comments section and more or less sucking his own dick.
Hell, it's right here, go read it yourselves:
Who is this guy to tell anybody what is ok and not ok to have as an opinion? Name calling on the internet?? Say it ain't so!! Listen, this dude isn't a moderator or anybody who does anything other than sit in front of his computer and dream. He goes on to say "keep it clean", which would be fine and dandy if he were posting on the message board of his local church but he's on a fucking MMA site.
You mean to tell me that now I can't laugh at off-color jokes on a site dedicated to two guys(or gals) beating the hell out of each other in a locked cage?? What's next? Am I supposed to turn the lights out when I have sex too so the virgin Mary doesn't blush? Being PC has it's place, however an MMA fansite is not that place, and it's also not the place for some asshole to cry about people being mean. I'm sure there's an inviting chubby girl somewhere to absorb your tears.
So I posted the following in response:
I understand the frustration but I’d also have to say why not just avoid the comments section? For the long, long while I spent as a lurker before I signed up I sure did. I’ve been into comic books my whole life so I learned a long time ago that if there’s a comment section it’s best to avoid it.
Listen, I love this sport, and I also love to poke fun at things and if you can’t find humor in this whole Tito thing then dude I’m truly sorry. This is not serious news. If Jenna got pounded on and was in bad shape she wouldn’t have been in front of a camera. If she was in an ICU somewhere and people are posting shit like “I hope she dies cause she’s a whore”, yeah, I can understand being frustrated with that breed of asshole. This is different and if you open up a public website and allow said public to comment people are going to poke fun at this. I know I shared a hearty laugh at Rampage’s rampage with friends, most of whom, like myself have been fans of MMA long enough to be considered “elite”. I just find that type of shit funny, they do too. Just cause a dude used to watch Pride back in the day doesn’t mean he loses all sense of humor….well not all of us.
Have you been to a UFC event live? There’s a lot of morons there who aren’t shy about it. It’s what happens when stuff starts to make money, because most of the money there is to be made comes FROM morons. If BE didn’t want to attract these people they’d make this site a lot more private than it currently is. Learn to ignore it and you’ll be happier. Or start a private site.
Despite that being one of the most rec'd comment in the thread a one Mr. Scott Haber (moderator on BE) proceeded to ban me for it, but not before stating his high horse stance that domestic abuse is never funny.
I beg to differ, because domestic abuse has been poked fun at pretty much since it's been going on. Ever heard of The Honeymooners? Shit, you can watch Family Guy every week and see at least one joke about it. So it's ok to laugh about something that's on network television but I can't laugh about the same thing on a fucking MMA site? Also, nobody, or very few people at least, are out there saying they think beating women is cool or the thing all the cool kids are doing so keep your panties on.
Scott Haber wasn't just upset with me though, as he also proceeded to say he wished he could ban everyone who agreed with my viewpoint. What exactly gives Scott Haber, or anyone on that site the right to tell somebody what they can, or can not agree with?
How about spending less time trying prove how much better you are than everyone else and just realize that you run a fucking site, sort of, and let people be fucking people. If this isn't acceptable then how about making your site completely private or something along those lines for the 20 of you who are humanitarians and all around better people than the rest of us. Only let the elite motherfuckers in Scott(or that other asshole that wrote the article that really, REALLY wants banning power). Like send any potential members a picture of a crying woman and see if they cry too. If they don't then you know they're scumbags and they don't deserve to watch any MMA, or enjoy any aspect of life that you do. I thought it was BloodyElbow though, not BloodyTampon but then again I may have misread the header.
Some folks try to find humor in everything, and I happen to be one of those people.
I don't want to see TMZ video of Jenna Jameson walking out of a Rite Aid all "woe is me" when I log into a site dedicated to MMA. That "news" came hot off the heels of a fantastic WEC(to me it still was) event, so why not dedicate some more space to commentary on that?
It's actually sites like BloodyElbow and the so called "Elite" or "High Horse" following that is bad for the sport, or really anything that hopes to catch on to a larger audience. These guys think that if people who are different from themselves happen to enjoy the same thing they hold so dear or it will ruin it for them. Or if said thing becomes profitable, those guys hate that too. In reality it's these very elitist fans that stand in the way of these things growing or getting better.
I've seen this same situation unfold in the world of video games, comic books, "indie" movies, and now MMA. It's all fucking stupid. Whether you've been a fan for one week or one decade I'm glad to have you here no matter your personality, sense of humor or viewpoints because at the end of the night we're all going to shut the fuck up and watch some fights.
There's more to the story, but I've taken up enough of your time, but if you want you can check it out over at:
I'm sure this will get pulled down as soon as possible.